87 wrangler doors/windsheild gap?
04-23-2006, 03:47 PM
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87 wrangler doors/windsheild gap?
hey everyone. i am a bit baffled by the approx 1/2" gap between my
steel (i have a hardtop) doors and the windshield (both doors)... its a
bit difficult to explain but it almost seems as if the windsheild
should 'pull back' farther to meet the doorframe - except of course
that it cant possibly do so b/c of the rollbar which fixes the
windsheild firmly into place... these are apparently the original doors
and the rubber seals around the door frame aren't in that bad a shape -
the gap seems too big for it to be a seal problem anyway.
it is annoying on the highway with the wind blowing into the cab and
making quite a racket, perhaps the wind has bent the door (sub?)frame
over the years? this doesnt seem that likely, since i would imagine
that would cause the windows to stick some (maybe?) going up and
down... i am sure there is a simple explanation... anyone know what it
is?
thanks in advance.
bennett
steel (i have a hardtop) doors and the windshield (both doors)... its a
bit difficult to explain but it almost seems as if the windsheild
should 'pull back' farther to meet the doorframe - except of course
that it cant possibly do so b/c of the rollbar which fixes the
windsheild firmly into place... these are apparently the original doors
and the rubber seals around the door frame aren't in that bad a shape -
the gap seems too big for it to be a seal problem anyway.
it is annoying on the highway with the wind blowing into the cab and
making quite a racket, perhaps the wind has bent the door (sub?)frame
over the years? this doesnt seem that likely, since i would imagine
that would cause the windows to stick some (maybe?) going up and
down... i am sure there is a simple explanation... anyone know what it
is?
thanks in advance.
bennett
04-23-2006, 04:19 PM
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Re: 87 wrangler doors/windsheild gap?
You have an odd ball year for some parts, but my 86's windshield has to
be reset when I change doors and tops. I could put my hand through the
differences and I have the stock doors and tops. My windshield is a
CJ/YJ one.
I thought that new bar had a set screw you could loosen just in front of
the roll bar so you could loosen the windshield hinge just above the big
round **** thing and adjust it? I believe it is a slotted fitting under
the forward facing bar for this.
I could be totally wrong on that but...
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
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bobvonbob wrote:
>
> hey everyone. i am a bit baffled by the approx 1/2" gap between my
> steel (i have a hardtop) doors and the windshield (both doors)... its a
> bit difficult to explain but it almost seems as if the windsheild
> should 'pull back' farther to meet the doorframe - except of course
> that it cant possibly do so b/c of the rollbar which fixes the
> windsheild firmly into place... these are apparently the original doors
> and the rubber seals around the door frame aren't in that bad a shape -
> the gap seems too big for it to be a seal problem anyway.
> it is annoying on the highway with the wind blowing into the cab and
> making quite a racket, perhaps the wind has bent the door (sub?)frame
> over the years? this doesnt seem that likely, since i would imagine
> that would cause the windows to stick some (maybe?) going up and
> down... i am sure there is a simple explanation... anyone know what it
> is?
> thanks in advance.
> bennett
be reset when I change doors and tops. I could put my hand through the
differences and I have the stock doors and tops. My windshield is a
CJ/YJ one.
I thought that new bar had a set screw you could loosen just in front of
the roll bar so you could loosen the windshield hinge just above the big
round **** thing and adjust it? I believe it is a slotted fitting under
the forward facing bar for this.
I could be totally wrong on that but...
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
bobvonbob wrote:
>
> hey everyone. i am a bit baffled by the approx 1/2" gap between my
> steel (i have a hardtop) doors and the windshield (both doors)... its a
> bit difficult to explain but it almost seems as if the windsheild
> should 'pull back' farther to meet the doorframe - except of course
> that it cant possibly do so b/c of the rollbar which fixes the
> windsheild firmly into place... these are apparently the original doors
> and the rubber seals around the door frame aren't in that bad a shape -
> the gap seems too big for it to be a seal problem anyway.
> it is annoying on the highway with the wind blowing into the cab and
> making quite a racket, perhaps the wind has bent the door (sub?)frame
> over the years? this doesnt seem that likely, since i would imagine
> that would cause the windows to stick some (maybe?) going up and
> down... i am sure there is a simple explanation... anyone know what it
> is?
> thanks in advance.
> bennett
04-23-2006, 04:19 PM
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Re: 87 wrangler doors/windsheild gap?
You have an odd ball year for some parts, but my 86's windshield has to
be reset when I change doors and tops. I could put my hand through the
differences and I have the stock doors and tops. My windshield is a
CJ/YJ one.
I thought that new bar had a set screw you could loosen just in front of
the roll bar so you could loosen the windshield hinge just above the big
round **** thing and adjust it? I believe it is a slotted fitting under
the forward facing bar for this.
I could be totally wrong on that but...
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
bobvonbob wrote:
>
> hey everyone. i am a bit baffled by the approx 1/2" gap between my
> steel (i have a hardtop) doors and the windshield (both doors)... its a
> bit difficult to explain but it almost seems as if the windsheild
> should 'pull back' farther to meet the doorframe - except of course
> that it cant possibly do so b/c of the rollbar which fixes the
> windsheild firmly into place... these are apparently the original doors
> and the rubber seals around the door frame aren't in that bad a shape -
> the gap seems too big for it to be a seal problem anyway.
> it is annoying on the highway with the wind blowing into the cab and
> making quite a racket, perhaps the wind has bent the door (sub?)frame
> over the years? this doesnt seem that likely, since i would imagine
> that would cause the windows to stick some (maybe?) going up and
> down... i am sure there is a simple explanation... anyone know what it
> is?
> thanks in advance.
> bennett
be reset when I change doors and tops. I could put my hand through the
differences and I have the stock doors and tops. My windshield is a
CJ/YJ one.
I thought that new bar had a set screw you could loosen just in front of
the roll bar so you could loosen the windshield hinge just above the big
round **** thing and adjust it? I believe it is a slotted fitting under
the forward facing bar for this.
I could be totally wrong on that but...
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
bobvonbob wrote:
>
> hey everyone. i am a bit baffled by the approx 1/2" gap between my
> steel (i have a hardtop) doors and the windshield (both doors)... its a
> bit difficult to explain but it almost seems as if the windsheild
> should 'pull back' farther to meet the doorframe - except of course
> that it cant possibly do so b/c of the rollbar which fixes the
> windsheild firmly into place... these are apparently the original doors
> and the rubber seals around the door frame aren't in that bad a shape -
> the gap seems too big for it to be a seal problem anyway.
> it is annoying on the highway with the wind blowing into the cab and
> making quite a racket, perhaps the wind has bent the door (sub?)frame
> over the years? this doesnt seem that likely, since i would imagine
> that would cause the windows to stick some (maybe?) going up and
> down... i am sure there is a simple explanation... anyone know what it
> is?
> thanks in advance.
> bennett
04-23-2006, 04:19 PM
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Re: 87 wrangler doors/windsheild gap?
You have an odd ball year for some parts, but my 86's windshield has to
be reset when I change doors and tops. I could put my hand through the
differences and I have the stock doors and tops. My windshield is a
CJ/YJ one.
I thought that new bar had a set screw you could loosen just in front of
the roll bar so you could loosen the windshield hinge just above the big
round **** thing and adjust it? I believe it is a slotted fitting under
the forward facing bar for this.
I could be totally wrong on that but...
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
bobvonbob wrote:
>
> hey everyone. i am a bit baffled by the approx 1/2" gap between my
> steel (i have a hardtop) doors and the windshield (both doors)... its a
> bit difficult to explain but it almost seems as if the windsheild
> should 'pull back' farther to meet the doorframe - except of course
> that it cant possibly do so b/c of the rollbar which fixes the
> windsheild firmly into place... these are apparently the original doors
> and the rubber seals around the door frame aren't in that bad a shape -
> the gap seems too big for it to be a seal problem anyway.
> it is annoying on the highway with the wind blowing into the cab and
> making quite a racket, perhaps the wind has bent the door (sub?)frame
> over the years? this doesnt seem that likely, since i would imagine
> that would cause the windows to stick some (maybe?) going up and
> down... i am sure there is a simple explanation... anyone know what it
> is?
> thanks in advance.
> bennett
be reset when I change doors and tops. I could put my hand through the
differences and I have the stock doors and tops. My windshield is a
CJ/YJ one.
I thought that new bar had a set screw you could loosen just in front of
the roll bar so you could loosen the windshield hinge just above the big
round **** thing and adjust it? I believe it is a slotted fitting under
the forward facing bar for this.
I could be totally wrong on that but...
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
bobvonbob wrote:
>
> hey everyone. i am a bit baffled by the approx 1/2" gap between my
> steel (i have a hardtop) doors and the windshield (both doors)... its a
> bit difficult to explain but it almost seems as if the windsheild
> should 'pull back' farther to meet the doorframe - except of course
> that it cant possibly do so b/c of the rollbar which fixes the
> windsheild firmly into place... these are apparently the original doors
> and the rubber seals around the door frame aren't in that bad a shape -
> the gap seems too big for it to be a seal problem anyway.
> it is annoying on the highway with the wind blowing into the cab and
> making quite a racket, perhaps the wind has bent the door (sub?)frame
> over the years? this doesnt seem that likely, since i would imagine
> that would cause the windows to stick some (maybe?) going up and
> down... i am sure there is a simple explanation... anyone know what it
> is?
> thanks in advance.
> bennett
04-25-2006, 08:59 AM
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Re: 87 wrangler doors/windsheild gap?
The windshield angle is adjustable like Mike suggested. There is a Torix
headed screw accessable with the hardtop off about 2" forward of the
rollbar. Loosen the windshield bolts on the dash, loosen the stretcher
bar bolt, adjust the windshield to an even 3/8" gap with the leading
edge of the door. Expect that at least one of the Torix bolts will round
out or snap off. :(
If your problem migrates to the back top edge of the door, you will find
another irritation: the stock door has some spot welds that like to
break where the window frame goes into the main door section. (right
near the door handle) The result is that the back of the window will not
seal tight against the HT. Best fix is to spotweld or braze the bar into
the door, but you may get by with a couple of STEEL pop rivets.
bobvonbob wrote:
> hey everyone. i am a bit baffled by the approx 1/2" gap between my
> steel (i have a hardtop) doors and the windshield (both doors)... its a
> bit difficult to explain but it almost seems as if the windsheild
> should 'pull back' farther to meet the doorframe - except of course
> that it cant possibly do so b/c of the rollbar which fixes the
> windsheild firmly into place... these are apparently the original doors
> and the rubber seals around the door frame aren't in that bad a shape -
> the gap seems too big for it to be a seal problem anyway.
> it is annoying on the highway with the wind blowing into the cab and
> making quite a racket, perhaps the wind has bent the door (sub?)frame
> over the years? this doesnt seem that likely, since i would imagine
> that would cause the windows to stick some (maybe?) going up and
> down... i am sure there is a simple explanation... anyone know what it
> is?
> thanks in advance.
> bennett
>
headed screw accessable with the hardtop off about 2" forward of the
rollbar. Loosen the windshield bolts on the dash, loosen the stretcher
bar bolt, adjust the windshield to an even 3/8" gap with the leading
edge of the door. Expect that at least one of the Torix bolts will round
out or snap off. :(
If your problem migrates to the back top edge of the door, you will find
another irritation: the stock door has some spot welds that like to
break where the window frame goes into the main door section. (right
near the door handle) The result is that the back of the window will not
seal tight against the HT. Best fix is to spotweld or braze the bar into
the door, but you may get by with a couple of STEEL pop rivets.
bobvonbob wrote:
> hey everyone. i am a bit baffled by the approx 1/2" gap between my
> steel (i have a hardtop) doors and the windshield (both doors)... its a
> bit difficult to explain but it almost seems as if the windsheild
> should 'pull back' farther to meet the doorframe - except of course
> that it cant possibly do so b/c of the rollbar which fixes the
> windsheild firmly into place... these are apparently the original doors
> and the rubber seals around the door frame aren't in that bad a shape -
> the gap seems too big for it to be a seal problem anyway.
> it is annoying on the highway with the wind blowing into the cab and
> making quite a racket, perhaps the wind has bent the door (sub?)frame
> over the years? this doesnt seem that likely, since i would imagine
> that would cause the windows to stick some (maybe?) going up and
> down... i am sure there is a simple explanation... anyone know what it
> is?
> thanks in advance.
> bennett
>
04-25-2006, 08:59 AM
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Re: 87 wrangler doors/windsheild gap?
The windshield angle is adjustable like Mike suggested. There is a Torix
headed screw accessable with the hardtop off about 2" forward of the
rollbar. Loosen the windshield bolts on the dash, loosen the stretcher
bar bolt, adjust the windshield to an even 3/8" gap with the leading
edge of the door. Expect that at least one of the Torix bolts will round
out or snap off. :(
If your problem migrates to the back top edge of the door, you will find
another irritation: the stock door has some spot welds that like to
break where the window frame goes into the main door section. (right
near the door handle) The result is that the back of the window will not
seal tight against the HT. Best fix is to spotweld or braze the bar into
the door, but you may get by with a couple of STEEL pop rivets.
bobvonbob wrote:
> hey everyone. i am a bit baffled by the approx 1/2" gap between my
> steel (i have a hardtop) doors and the windshield (both doors)... its a
> bit difficult to explain but it almost seems as if the windsheild
> should 'pull back' farther to meet the doorframe - except of course
> that it cant possibly do so b/c of the rollbar which fixes the
> windsheild firmly into place... these are apparently the original doors
> and the rubber seals around the door frame aren't in that bad a shape -
> the gap seems too big for it to be a seal problem anyway.
> it is annoying on the highway with the wind blowing into the cab and
> making quite a racket, perhaps the wind has bent the door (sub?)frame
> over the years? this doesnt seem that likely, since i would imagine
> that would cause the windows to stick some (maybe?) going up and
> down... i am sure there is a simple explanation... anyone know what it
> is?
> thanks in advance.
> bennett
>
headed screw accessable with the hardtop off about 2" forward of the
rollbar. Loosen the windshield bolts on the dash, loosen the stretcher
bar bolt, adjust the windshield to an even 3/8" gap with the leading
edge of the door. Expect that at least one of the Torix bolts will round
out or snap off. :(
If your problem migrates to the back top edge of the door, you will find
another irritation: the stock door has some spot welds that like to
break where the window frame goes into the main door section. (right
near the door handle) The result is that the back of the window will not
seal tight against the HT. Best fix is to spotweld or braze the bar into
the door, but you may get by with a couple of STEEL pop rivets.
bobvonbob wrote:
> hey everyone. i am a bit baffled by the approx 1/2" gap between my
> steel (i have a hardtop) doors and the windshield (both doors)... its a
> bit difficult to explain but it almost seems as if the windsheild
> should 'pull back' farther to meet the doorframe - except of course
> that it cant possibly do so b/c of the rollbar which fixes the
> windsheild firmly into place... these are apparently the original doors
> and the rubber seals around the door frame aren't in that bad a shape -
> the gap seems too big for it to be a seal problem anyway.
> it is annoying on the highway with the wind blowing into the cab and
> making quite a racket, perhaps the wind has bent the door (sub?)frame
> over the years? this doesnt seem that likely, since i would imagine
> that would cause the windows to stick some (maybe?) going up and
> down... i am sure there is a simple explanation... anyone know what it
> is?
> thanks in advance.
> bennett
>
04-25-2006, 08:59 AM
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Re: 87 wrangler doors/windsheild gap?
The windshield angle is adjustable like Mike suggested. There is a Torix
headed screw accessable with the hardtop off about 2" forward of the
rollbar. Loosen the windshield bolts on the dash, loosen the stretcher
bar bolt, adjust the windshield to an even 3/8" gap with the leading
edge of the door. Expect that at least one of the Torix bolts will round
out or snap off. :(
If your problem migrates to the back top edge of the door, you will find
another irritation: the stock door has some spot welds that like to
break where the window frame goes into the main door section. (right
near the door handle) The result is that the back of the window will not
seal tight against the HT. Best fix is to spotweld or braze the bar into
the door, but you may get by with a couple of STEEL pop rivets.
bobvonbob wrote:
> hey everyone. i am a bit baffled by the approx 1/2" gap between my
> steel (i have a hardtop) doors and the windshield (both doors)... its a
> bit difficult to explain but it almost seems as if the windsheild
> should 'pull back' farther to meet the doorframe - except of course
> that it cant possibly do so b/c of the rollbar which fixes the
> windsheild firmly into place... these are apparently the original doors
> and the rubber seals around the door frame aren't in that bad a shape -
> the gap seems too big for it to be a seal problem anyway.
> it is annoying on the highway with the wind blowing into the cab and
> making quite a racket, perhaps the wind has bent the door (sub?)frame
> over the years? this doesnt seem that likely, since i would imagine
> that would cause the windows to stick some (maybe?) going up and
> down... i am sure there is a simple explanation... anyone know what it
> is?
> thanks in advance.
> bennett
>
headed screw accessable with the hardtop off about 2" forward of the
rollbar. Loosen the windshield bolts on the dash, loosen the stretcher
bar bolt, adjust the windshield to an even 3/8" gap with the leading
edge of the door. Expect that at least one of the Torix bolts will round
out or snap off. :(
If your problem migrates to the back top edge of the door, you will find
another irritation: the stock door has some spot welds that like to
break where the window frame goes into the main door section. (right
near the door handle) The result is that the back of the window will not
seal tight against the HT. Best fix is to spotweld or braze the bar into
the door, but you may get by with a couple of STEEL pop rivets.
bobvonbob wrote:
> hey everyone. i am a bit baffled by the approx 1/2" gap between my
> steel (i have a hardtop) doors and the windshield (both doors)... its a
> bit difficult to explain but it almost seems as if the windsheild
> should 'pull back' farther to meet the doorframe - except of course
> that it cant possibly do so b/c of the rollbar which fixes the
> windsheild firmly into place... these are apparently the original doors
> and the rubber seals around the door frame aren't in that bad a shape -
> the gap seems too big for it to be a seal problem anyway.
> it is annoying on the highway with the wind blowing into the cab and
> making quite a racket, perhaps the wind has bent the door (sub?)frame
> over the years? this doesnt seem that likely, since i would imagine
> that would cause the windows to stick some (maybe?) going up and
> down... i am sure there is a simple explanation... anyone know what it
> is?
> thanks in advance.
> bennett
>