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Will Honea 01-25-2007 11:40 PM

Re: 86 XJ motor replacement
 
On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 20:11:58 -0800, jerryg wrote:

> What engine options do I have when it comes to decicing what to put in
> my newly aquired 86 XJ. It now has the 2.5 4 cyl. Manual trans. Is it a
> difficult swap? Also does anyone know what the cost of factory service
> manuals might cost for this vehicle? Many thanks in advance!!


4.0/4.2 inline 6 won't it - they extended the nose and changed the
firewall in 87 to get the 4.0 in. The tranny is too light to take one
anyhow.

--
Will Honea <whonea@yahoo.com>

billy ray 01-26-2007 12:29 AM

Re: 86 XJ motor replacement
 
Have you considered just regearing the differentials?


"jerryg" <Gregginn7@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1169785538.137041.118690@j27g2000cwj.googlegr oups.com...
> Yea it runs fine. Maybe Ill get used to it. But it is a dog :( Factory
> manuals expensive?
>
> Greg
>
> On Jan 25, 10:22 pm, "Carl S" <carlsai...@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Just curious if the 2.5L was running or not. Probably a chev v6 with an
>> auto
>> would be the easiest. The chev 4.3L v6 is a pretty stout motor.
>>
>> Carl
>>
>> "jerryg" <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote in
>> messagenews:1169785163.611529.114260@q2g2000cwa.go oglegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> > Just like something with more umph I guess. Its a dog compared to my
>> > YJ.

>>
>> > Greg

>>
>> > On Jan 25, 10:15 pm, "Carl S" <carlsai...@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> What are the smog requirements where you live? The easiest swap is
>> >> always
>> >> a
>> >> carbed motor and an auto trans. SBC is the most common, but very tight
>> >> in
>> >> an
>> >> XJ. You might be able to do a 4.2L carbed or something.

>>
>> >> Whats wrong with the 2.5L?

>>
>> >> Carl

>>
>> >> "jerryg" <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote in
>> >> messagenews:1169784718.912177.86040@j27g2000cwj.go oglegroups.com...

>>
>> >> > What engine options do I have when it comes to decicing what to put
>> >> > in
>> >> > my newly aquired 86 XJ. It now has the 2.5 4 cyl. Manual trans. Is
>> >> > it a
>> >> > difficult swap? Also does anyone know what the cost of factory
>> >> > service
>> >> > manuals might cost for this vehicle? Many thanks in advance!!

>>
>> >> > Greg
>> >> > 86 XJ
>> >> > 95 YJ
>> >> > 06 ZJ- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text --
>> >> > Show quoted text -

>




billy ray 01-26-2007 12:29 AM

Re: 86 XJ motor replacement
 
Have you considered just regearing the differentials?


"jerryg" <Gregginn7@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1169785538.137041.118690@j27g2000cwj.googlegr oups.com...
> Yea it runs fine. Maybe Ill get used to it. But it is a dog :( Factory
> manuals expensive?
>
> Greg
>
> On Jan 25, 10:22 pm, "Carl S" <carlsai...@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Just curious if the 2.5L was running or not. Probably a chev v6 with an
>> auto
>> would be the easiest. The chev 4.3L v6 is a pretty stout motor.
>>
>> Carl
>>
>> "jerryg" <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote in
>> messagenews:1169785163.611529.114260@q2g2000cwa.go oglegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> > Just like something with more umph I guess. Its a dog compared to my
>> > YJ.

>>
>> > Greg

>>
>> > On Jan 25, 10:15 pm, "Carl S" <carlsai...@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> What are the smog requirements where you live? The easiest swap is
>> >> always
>> >> a
>> >> carbed motor and an auto trans. SBC is the most common, but very tight
>> >> in
>> >> an
>> >> XJ. You might be able to do a 4.2L carbed or something.

>>
>> >> Whats wrong with the 2.5L?

>>
>> >> Carl

>>
>> >> "jerryg" <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote in
>> >> messagenews:1169784718.912177.86040@j27g2000cwj.go oglegroups.com...

>>
>> >> > What engine options do I have when it comes to decicing what to put
>> >> > in
>> >> > my newly aquired 86 XJ. It now has the 2.5 4 cyl. Manual trans. Is
>> >> > it a
>> >> > difficult swap? Also does anyone know what the cost of factory
>> >> > service
>> >> > manuals might cost for this vehicle? Many thanks in advance!!

>>
>> >> > Greg
>> >> > 86 XJ
>> >> > 95 YJ
>> >> > 06 ZJ- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text --
>> >> > Show quoted text -

>




billy ray 01-26-2007 12:29 AM

Re: 86 XJ motor replacement
 
Have you considered just regearing the differentials?


"jerryg" <Gregginn7@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1169785538.137041.118690@j27g2000cwj.googlegr oups.com...
> Yea it runs fine. Maybe Ill get used to it. But it is a dog :( Factory
> manuals expensive?
>
> Greg
>
> On Jan 25, 10:22 pm, "Carl S" <carlsai...@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Just curious if the 2.5L was running or not. Probably a chev v6 with an
>> auto
>> would be the easiest. The chev 4.3L v6 is a pretty stout motor.
>>
>> Carl
>>
>> "jerryg" <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote in
>> messagenews:1169785163.611529.114260@q2g2000cwa.go oglegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> > Just like something with more umph I guess. Its a dog compared to my
>> > YJ.

>>
>> > Greg

>>
>> > On Jan 25, 10:15 pm, "Carl S" <carlsai...@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> What are the smog requirements where you live? The easiest swap is
>> >> always
>> >> a
>> >> carbed motor and an auto trans. SBC is the most common, but very tight
>> >> in
>> >> an
>> >> XJ. You might be able to do a 4.2L carbed or something.

>>
>> >> Whats wrong with the 2.5L?

>>
>> >> Carl

>>
>> >> "jerryg" <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote in
>> >> messagenews:1169784718.912177.86040@j27g2000cwj.go oglegroups.com...

>>
>> >> > What engine options do I have when it comes to decicing what to put
>> >> > in
>> >> > my newly aquired 86 XJ. It now has the 2.5 4 cyl. Manual trans. Is
>> >> > it a
>> >> > difficult swap? Also does anyone know what the cost of factory
>> >> > service
>> >> > manuals might cost for this vehicle? Many thanks in advance!!

>>
>> >> > Greg
>> >> > 86 XJ
>> >> > 95 YJ
>> >> > 06 ZJ- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text --
>> >> > Show quoted text -

>




billy ray 01-26-2007 12:29 AM

Re: 86 XJ motor replacement
 
Have you considered just regearing the differentials?


"jerryg" <Gregginn7@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1169785538.137041.118690@j27g2000cwj.googlegr oups.com...
> Yea it runs fine. Maybe Ill get used to it. But it is a dog :( Factory
> manuals expensive?
>
> Greg
>
> On Jan 25, 10:22 pm, "Carl S" <carlsai...@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Just curious if the 2.5L was running or not. Probably a chev v6 with an
>> auto
>> would be the easiest. The chev 4.3L v6 is a pretty stout motor.
>>
>> Carl
>>
>> "jerryg" <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote in
>> messagenews:1169785163.611529.114260@q2g2000cwa.go oglegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> > Just like something with more umph I guess. Its a dog compared to my
>> > YJ.

>>
>> > Greg

>>
>> > On Jan 25, 10:15 pm, "Carl S" <carlsai...@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> What are the smog requirements where you live? The easiest swap is
>> >> always
>> >> a
>> >> carbed motor and an auto trans. SBC is the most common, but very tight
>> >> in
>> >> an
>> >> XJ. You might be able to do a 4.2L carbed or something.

>>
>> >> Whats wrong with the 2.5L?

>>
>> >> Carl

>>
>> >> "jerryg" <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote in
>> >> messagenews:1169784718.912177.86040@j27g2000cwj.go oglegroups.com...

>>
>> >> > What engine options do I have when it comes to decicing what to put
>> >> > in
>> >> > my newly aquired 86 XJ. It now has the 2.5 4 cyl. Manual trans. Is
>> >> > it a
>> >> > difficult swap? Also does anyone know what the cost of factory
>> >> > service
>> >> > manuals might cost for this vehicle? Many thanks in advance!!

>>
>> >> > Greg
>> >> > 86 XJ
>> >> > 95 YJ
>> >> > 06 ZJ- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text --
>> >> > Show quoted text -

>




Earle Horton 01-26-2007 01:03 AM

Re: 86 XJ motor replacement
 
A 2.5 liter standard shift is likely to have 4.10/4.11 differentials
already. The cost of gearing even further down is pretty high, unless you
can set up a ring and pinion on your own. Nothing you do, short of an
engine transplant, is going to result in passing cars on the freeway unless
the other drivers politely let you do it. The factory manual is like $100,
if you can even still get them from the factory. Remember this was an AMC
rig when first sold, and now DaimlerChrysler's responsibility. The vehicle
should have a throttle body fuel injection system, and be pretty darn
economical for an SUV. You can tell yourself that you are saving the
environment and stuff like that.

Earle

"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:49918$45b992d0$422afc51$7907@FUSE.NET...
> Have you considered just regearing the differentials?
>
>
> "jerryg" <Gregginn7@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:1169785538.137041.118690@j27g2000cwj.googlegr oups.com...
> > Yea it runs fine. Maybe Ill get used to it. But it is a dog :( Factory
> > manuals expensive?
> >
> > Greg
> >
> > On Jan 25, 10:22 pm, "Carl S" <carlsai...@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> Just curious if the 2.5L was running or not. Probably a chev v6 with an
> >> auto
> >> would be the easiest. The chev 4.3L v6 is a pretty stout motor.
> >>
> >> Carl
> >>
> >> "jerryg" <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote in
> >> messagenews:1169785163.611529.114260@q2g2000cwa.go oglegroups.com...
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > Just like something with more umph I guess. Its a dog compared to my
> >> > YJ.
> >>
> >> > Greg
> >>
> >> > On Jan 25, 10:15 pm, "Carl S" <carlsai...@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> What are the smog requirements where you live? The easiest swap is
> >> >> always
> >> >> a
> >> >> carbed motor and an auto trans. SBC is the most common, but very

tight
> >> >> in
> >> >> an
> >> >> XJ. You might be able to do a 4.2L carbed or something.
> >>
> >> >> Whats wrong with the 2.5L?
> >>
> >> >> Carl
> >>
> >> >> "jerryg" <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote in
> >> >> messagenews:1169784718.912177.86040@j27g2000cwj.go oglegroups.com...
> >>
> >> >> > What engine options do I have when it comes to decicing what to

put
> >> >> > in
> >> >> > my newly aquired 86 XJ. It now has the 2.5 4 cyl. Manual trans. Is
> >> >> > it a
> >> >> > difficult swap? Also does anyone know what the cost of factory
> >> >> > service
> >> >> > manuals might cost for this vehicle? Many thanks in advance!!
> >>
> >> >> > Greg
> >> >> > 86 XJ
> >> >> > 95 YJ
> >> >> > 06 ZJ- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text --
> >> >> > Show quoted text -

> >

>
>




Earle Horton 01-26-2007 01:03 AM

Re: 86 XJ motor replacement
 
A 2.5 liter standard shift is likely to have 4.10/4.11 differentials
already. The cost of gearing even further down is pretty high, unless you
can set up a ring and pinion on your own. Nothing you do, short of an
engine transplant, is going to result in passing cars on the freeway unless
the other drivers politely let you do it. The factory manual is like $100,
if you can even still get them from the factory. Remember this was an AMC
rig when first sold, and now DaimlerChrysler's responsibility. The vehicle
should have a throttle body fuel injection system, and be pretty darn
economical for an SUV. You can tell yourself that you are saving the
environment and stuff like that.

Earle

"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:49918$45b992d0$422afc51$7907@FUSE.NET...
> Have you considered just regearing the differentials?
>
>
> "jerryg" <Gregginn7@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:1169785538.137041.118690@j27g2000cwj.googlegr oups.com...
> > Yea it runs fine. Maybe Ill get used to it. But it is a dog :( Factory
> > manuals expensive?
> >
> > Greg
> >
> > On Jan 25, 10:22 pm, "Carl S" <carlsai...@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> Just curious if the 2.5L was running or not. Probably a chev v6 with an
> >> auto
> >> would be the easiest. The chev 4.3L v6 is a pretty stout motor.
> >>
> >> Carl
> >>
> >> "jerryg" <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote in
> >> messagenews:1169785163.611529.114260@q2g2000cwa.go oglegroups.com...
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > Just like something with more umph I guess. Its a dog compared to my
> >> > YJ.
> >>
> >> > Greg
> >>
> >> > On Jan 25, 10:15 pm, "Carl S" <carlsai...@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> What are the smog requirements where you live? The easiest swap is
> >> >> always
> >> >> a
> >> >> carbed motor and an auto trans. SBC is the most common, but very

tight
> >> >> in
> >> >> an
> >> >> XJ. You might be able to do a 4.2L carbed or something.
> >>
> >> >> Whats wrong with the 2.5L?
> >>
> >> >> Carl
> >>
> >> >> "jerryg" <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote in
> >> >> messagenews:1169784718.912177.86040@j27g2000cwj.go oglegroups.com...
> >>
> >> >> > What engine options do I have when it comes to decicing what to

put
> >> >> > in
> >> >> > my newly aquired 86 XJ. It now has the 2.5 4 cyl. Manual trans. Is
> >> >> > it a
> >> >> > difficult swap? Also does anyone know what the cost of factory
> >> >> > service
> >> >> > manuals might cost for this vehicle? Many thanks in advance!!
> >>
> >> >> > Greg
> >> >> > 86 XJ
> >> >> > 95 YJ
> >> >> > 06 ZJ- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text --
> >> >> > Show quoted text -

> >

>
>




Earle Horton 01-26-2007 01:03 AM

Re: 86 XJ motor replacement
 
A 2.5 liter standard shift is likely to have 4.10/4.11 differentials
already. The cost of gearing even further down is pretty high, unless you
can set up a ring and pinion on your own. Nothing you do, short of an
engine transplant, is going to result in passing cars on the freeway unless
the other drivers politely let you do it. The factory manual is like $100,
if you can even still get them from the factory. Remember this was an AMC
rig when first sold, and now DaimlerChrysler's responsibility. The vehicle
should have a throttle body fuel injection system, and be pretty darn
economical for an SUV. You can tell yourself that you are saving the
environment and stuff like that.

Earle

"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:49918$45b992d0$422afc51$7907@FUSE.NET...
> Have you considered just regearing the differentials?
>
>
> "jerryg" <Gregginn7@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:1169785538.137041.118690@j27g2000cwj.googlegr oups.com...
> > Yea it runs fine. Maybe Ill get used to it. But it is a dog :( Factory
> > manuals expensive?
> >
> > Greg
> >
> > On Jan 25, 10:22 pm, "Carl S" <carlsai...@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> Just curious if the 2.5L was running or not. Probably a chev v6 with an
> >> auto
> >> would be the easiest. The chev 4.3L v6 is a pretty stout motor.
> >>
> >> Carl
> >>
> >> "jerryg" <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote in
> >> messagenews:1169785163.611529.114260@q2g2000cwa.go oglegroups.com...
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > Just like something with more umph I guess. Its a dog compared to my
> >> > YJ.
> >>
> >> > Greg
> >>
> >> > On Jan 25, 10:15 pm, "Carl S" <carlsai...@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> What are the smog requirements where you live? The easiest swap is
> >> >> always
> >> >> a
> >> >> carbed motor and an auto trans. SBC is the most common, but very

tight
> >> >> in
> >> >> an
> >> >> XJ. You might be able to do a 4.2L carbed or something.
> >>
> >> >> Whats wrong with the 2.5L?
> >>
> >> >> Carl
> >>
> >> >> "jerryg" <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote in
> >> >> messagenews:1169784718.912177.86040@j27g2000cwj.go oglegroups.com...
> >>
> >> >> > What engine options do I have when it comes to decicing what to

put
> >> >> > in
> >> >> > my newly aquired 86 XJ. It now has the 2.5 4 cyl. Manual trans. Is
> >> >> > it a
> >> >> > difficult swap? Also does anyone know what the cost of factory
> >> >> > service
> >> >> > manuals might cost for this vehicle? Many thanks in advance!!
> >>
> >> >> > Greg
> >> >> > 86 XJ
> >> >> > 95 YJ
> >> >> > 06 ZJ- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text --
> >> >> > Show quoted text -

> >

>
>




Earle Horton 01-26-2007 01:03 AM

Re: 86 XJ motor replacement
 
A 2.5 liter standard shift is likely to have 4.10/4.11 differentials
already. The cost of gearing even further down is pretty high, unless you
can set up a ring and pinion on your own. Nothing you do, short of an
engine transplant, is going to result in passing cars on the freeway unless
the other drivers politely let you do it. The factory manual is like $100,
if you can even still get them from the factory. Remember this was an AMC
rig when first sold, and now DaimlerChrysler's responsibility. The vehicle
should have a throttle body fuel injection system, and be pretty darn
economical for an SUV. You can tell yourself that you are saving the
environment and stuff like that.

Earle

"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:49918$45b992d0$422afc51$7907@FUSE.NET...
> Have you considered just regearing the differentials?
>
>
> "jerryg" <Gregginn7@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:1169785538.137041.118690@j27g2000cwj.googlegr oups.com...
> > Yea it runs fine. Maybe Ill get used to it. But it is a dog :( Factory
> > manuals expensive?
> >
> > Greg
> >
> > On Jan 25, 10:22 pm, "Carl S" <carlsai...@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> Just curious if the 2.5L was running or not. Probably a chev v6 with an
> >> auto
> >> would be the easiest. The chev 4.3L v6 is a pretty stout motor.
> >>
> >> Carl
> >>
> >> "jerryg" <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote in
> >> messagenews:1169785163.611529.114260@q2g2000cwa.go oglegroups.com...
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > Just like something with more umph I guess. Its a dog compared to my
> >> > YJ.
> >>
> >> > Greg
> >>
> >> > On Jan 25, 10:15 pm, "Carl S" <carlsai...@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> What are the smog requirements where you live? The easiest swap is
> >> >> always
> >> >> a
> >> >> carbed motor and an auto trans. SBC is the most common, but very

tight
> >> >> in
> >> >> an
> >> >> XJ. You might be able to do a 4.2L carbed or something.
> >>
> >> >> Whats wrong with the 2.5L?
> >>
> >> >> Carl
> >>
> >> >> "jerryg" <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote in
> >> >> messagenews:1169784718.912177.86040@j27g2000cwj.go oglegroups.com...
> >>
> >> >> > What engine options do I have when it comes to decicing what to

put
> >> >> > in
> >> >> > my newly aquired 86 XJ. It now has the 2.5 4 cyl. Manual trans. Is
> >> >> > it a
> >> >> > difficult swap? Also does anyone know what the cost of factory
> >> >> > service
> >> >> > manuals might cost for this vehicle? Many thanks in advance!!
> >>
> >> >> > Greg
> >> >> > 86 XJ
> >> >> > 95 YJ
> >> >> > 06 ZJ- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text --
> >> >> > Show quoted text -

> >

>
>




Bill Kearney 01-26-2007 08:42 AM

Re: 86 XJ motor replacement
 
The only thing that swaps in easily is the 3.4L V6. Everything else would
require cutting the firewall sheetmetal to make it fit.

Given how cheap XJs are these days you'd be better off just getting another
one with the right engine instead. By the time you swap the engine, trans,
transfer case and driveshafts (along with their mounts) you'd be well past
the price of another XJ.

"jerryg" <Gregginn7@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1169784718.912177.86040@j27g2000cwj.googlegro ups.com...
> What engine options do I have when it comes to decicing what to put in
> my newly aquired 86 XJ. It now has the 2.5 4 cyl. Manual trans. Is it a
> difficult swap? Also does anyone know what the cost of factory service
> manuals might cost for this vehicle? Many thanks in advance!!




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