85 CJ body tub weight
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Re: 85 CJ body tub weight
L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) ------ III says...
> Hi Dale,
> Nope, both the Jeeps I had the bodies off to paint weighed ninty or
> less: http://www.----------.com/cj5apart.jpg and
> http://www.----------.com/inthebeginng.jpg I'd just stand them on end
> and lift them by their dashes and walk around. I can't believe they make
> fiberglass tubs as heavy as advertised on the site provided you.
> Although they say they reinforce them with quarter inch steel, kind of
> defeats the purpose.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
After looking around, it seems that most fiberglass tubs weigh in between
275 and 325 pounds. One site puts a steel tub at 300. I would have thought
fiberglass would be a LOT lighter.
--
Dale Beckett
> Hi Dale,
> Nope, both the Jeeps I had the bodies off to paint weighed ninty or
> less: http://www.----------.com/cj5apart.jpg and
> http://www.----------.com/inthebeginng.jpg I'd just stand them on end
> and lift them by their dashes and walk around. I can't believe they make
> fiberglass tubs as heavy as advertised on the site provided you.
> Although they say they reinforce them with quarter inch steel, kind of
> defeats the purpose.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
After looking around, it seems that most fiberglass tubs weigh in between
275 and 325 pounds. One site puts a steel tub at 300. I would have thought
fiberglass would be a LOT lighter.
--
Dale Beckett
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Re: 85 CJ body tub weight
Dale Beckett wrote:
>
> L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) ------ III says...
> > Hi Dale,
> > Nope, both the Jeeps I had the bodies off to paint weighed ninty or
> > less: http://www.----------.com/cj5apart.jpg and
> > http://www.----------.com/inthebeginng.jpg I'd just stand them on end
> > and lift them by their dashes and walk around. I can't believe they make
> > fiberglass tubs as heavy as advertised on the site provided you.
> > Although they say they reinforce them with quarter inch steel, kind of
> > defeats the purpose.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:--------------------
> >
>
> After looking around, it seems that most fiberglass tubs weigh in between
> 275 and 325 pounds. One site puts a steel tub at 300. I would have thought
> fiberglass would be a LOT lighter.
>
> --
>
> Dale Beckett
Either that or I am a ---- load stronger than I think I am... I could
easily pick up my 'glass tub and put it on or off the frame when it was
empty. Even after I placed the seats and roll bar inside, 2 of us could
move it. My front clip can't weigh in more than 50 lb also.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) ------ III says...
> > Hi Dale,
> > Nope, both the Jeeps I had the bodies off to paint weighed ninty or
> > less: http://www.----------.com/cj5apart.jpg and
> > http://www.----------.com/inthebeginng.jpg I'd just stand them on end
> > and lift them by their dashes and walk around. I can't believe they make
> > fiberglass tubs as heavy as advertised on the site provided you.
> > Although they say they reinforce them with quarter inch steel, kind of
> > defeats the purpose.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:--------------------
> >
>
> After looking around, it seems that most fiberglass tubs weigh in between
> 275 and 325 pounds. One site puts a steel tub at 300. I would have thought
> fiberglass would be a LOT lighter.
>
> --
>
> Dale Beckett
Either that or I am a ---- load stronger than I think I am... I could
easily pick up my 'glass tub and put it on or off the frame when it was
empty. Even after I placed the seats and roll bar inside, 2 of us could
move it. My front clip can't weigh in more than 50 lb also.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
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Re: 85 CJ body tub weight
Dale Beckett wrote:
>
> L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) ------ III says...
> > Hi Dale,
> > Nope, both the Jeeps I had the bodies off to paint weighed ninty or
> > less: http://www.----------.com/cj5apart.jpg and
> > http://www.----------.com/inthebeginng.jpg I'd just stand them on end
> > and lift them by their dashes and walk around. I can't believe they make
> > fiberglass tubs as heavy as advertised on the site provided you.
> > Although they say they reinforce them with quarter inch steel, kind of
> > defeats the purpose.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:--------------------
> >
>
> After looking around, it seems that most fiberglass tubs weigh in between
> 275 and 325 pounds. One site puts a steel tub at 300. I would have thought
> fiberglass would be a LOT lighter.
>
> --
>
> Dale Beckett
Either that or I am a ---- load stronger than I think I am... I could
easily pick up my 'glass tub and put it on or off the frame when it was
empty. Even after I placed the seats and roll bar inside, 2 of us could
move it. My front clip can't weigh in more than 50 lb also.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) ------ III says...
> > Hi Dale,
> > Nope, both the Jeeps I had the bodies off to paint weighed ninty or
> > less: http://www.----------.com/cj5apart.jpg and
> > http://www.----------.com/inthebeginng.jpg I'd just stand them on end
> > and lift them by their dashes and walk around. I can't believe they make
> > fiberglass tubs as heavy as advertised on the site provided you.
> > Although they say they reinforce them with quarter inch steel, kind of
> > defeats the purpose.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:--------------------
> >
>
> After looking around, it seems that most fiberglass tubs weigh in between
> 275 and 325 pounds. One site puts a steel tub at 300. I would have thought
> fiberglass would be a LOT lighter.
>
> --
>
> Dale Beckett
Either that or I am a ---- load stronger than I think I am... I could
easily pick up my 'glass tub and put it on or off the frame when it was
empty. Even after I placed the seats and roll bar inside, 2 of us could
move it. My front clip can't weigh in more than 50 lb also.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
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Re: 85 CJ body tub weight
Dale Beckett wrote:
>
> L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) ------ III says...
> > Hi Dale,
> > Nope, both the Jeeps I had the bodies off to paint weighed ninty or
> > less: http://www.----------.com/cj5apart.jpg and
> > http://www.----------.com/inthebeginng.jpg I'd just stand them on end
> > and lift them by their dashes and walk around. I can't believe they make
> > fiberglass tubs as heavy as advertised on the site provided you.
> > Although they say they reinforce them with quarter inch steel, kind of
> > defeats the purpose.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:--------------------
> >
>
> After looking around, it seems that most fiberglass tubs weigh in between
> 275 and 325 pounds. One site puts a steel tub at 300. I would have thought
> fiberglass would be a LOT lighter.
>
> --
>
> Dale Beckett
Either that or I am a ---- load stronger than I think I am... I could
easily pick up my 'glass tub and put it on or off the frame when it was
empty. Even after I placed the seats and roll bar inside, 2 of us could
move it. My front clip can't weigh in more than 50 lb also.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) ------ III says...
> > Hi Dale,
> > Nope, both the Jeeps I had the bodies off to paint weighed ninty or
> > less: http://www.----------.com/cj5apart.jpg and
> > http://www.----------.com/inthebeginng.jpg I'd just stand them on end
> > and lift them by their dashes and walk around. I can't believe they make
> > fiberglass tubs as heavy as advertised on the site provided you.
> > Although they say they reinforce them with quarter inch steel, kind of
> > defeats the purpose.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:--------------------
> >
>
> After looking around, it seems that most fiberglass tubs weigh in between
> 275 and 325 pounds. One site puts a steel tub at 300. I would have thought
> fiberglass would be a LOT lighter.
>
> --
>
> Dale Beckett
Either that or I am a ---- load stronger than I think I am... I could
easily pick up my 'glass tub and put it on or off the frame when it was
empty. Even after I placed the seats and roll bar inside, 2 of us could
move it. My front clip can't weigh in more than 50 lb also.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
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Re: 85 CJ body tub weight
Dale Beckett wrote:
>
> L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) ------ III says...
> > Hi Dale,
> > Nope, both the Jeeps I had the bodies off to paint weighed ninty or
> > less: http://www.----------.com/cj5apart.jpg and
> > http://www.----------.com/inthebeginng.jpg I'd just stand them on end
> > and lift them by their dashes and walk around. I can't believe they make
> > fiberglass tubs as heavy as advertised on the site provided you.
> > Although they say they reinforce them with quarter inch steel, kind of
> > defeats the purpose.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:--------------------
> >
>
> After looking around, it seems that most fiberglass tubs weigh in between
> 275 and 325 pounds. One site puts a steel tub at 300. I would have thought
> fiberglass would be a LOT lighter.
>
> --
>
> Dale Beckett
Either that or I am a ---- load stronger than I think I am... I could
easily pick up my 'glass tub and put it on or off the frame when it was
empty. Even after I placed the seats and roll bar inside, 2 of us could
move it. My front clip can't weigh in more than 50 lb also.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) ------ III says...
> > Hi Dale,
> > Nope, both the Jeeps I had the bodies off to paint weighed ninty or
> > less: http://www.----------.com/cj5apart.jpg and
> > http://www.----------.com/inthebeginng.jpg I'd just stand them on end
> > and lift them by their dashes and walk around. I can't believe they make
> > fiberglass tubs as heavy as advertised on the site provided you.
> > Although they say they reinforce them with quarter inch steel, kind of
> > defeats the purpose.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:--------------------
> >
>
> After looking around, it seems that most fiberglass tubs weigh in between
> 275 and 325 pounds. One site puts a steel tub at 300. I would have thought
> fiberglass would be a LOT lighter.
>
> --
>
> Dale Beckett
Either that or I am a ---- load stronger than I think I am... I could
easily pick up my 'glass tub and put it on or off the frame when it was
empty. Even after I placed the seats and roll bar inside, 2 of us could
move it. My front clip can't weigh in more than 50 lb also.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
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Re: 85 CJ body tub weight
Mike Romain says...
> Dale Beckett wrote:
> >
> > L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) ------ III says...
[snip]
>
> Either that or I am a ---- load stronger than I think I am... I could
> easily pick up my 'glass tub and put it on or off the frame when it was
> empty. Even after I placed the seats and roll bar inside, 2 of us could
> move it. My front clip can't weigh in more than 50 lb also.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
So, with a 'glass front end, you had to run new electrical grounds, and
remount the radiator, yes?
Any other gotchas?
--
Dale Beckett
> Dale Beckett wrote:
> >
> > L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) ------ III says...
[snip]
>
> Either that or I am a ---- load stronger than I think I am... I could
> easily pick up my 'glass tub and put it on or off the frame when it was
> empty. Even after I placed the seats and roll bar inside, 2 of us could
> move it. My front clip can't weigh in more than 50 lb also.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
So, with a 'glass front end, you had to run new electrical grounds, and
remount the radiator, yes?
Any other gotchas?
--
Dale Beckett
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Re: 85 CJ body tub weight
Mike Romain says...
> Dale Beckett wrote:
> >
> > L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) ------ III says...
[snip]
>
> Either that or I am a ---- load stronger than I think I am... I could
> easily pick up my 'glass tub and put it on or off the frame when it was
> empty. Even after I placed the seats and roll bar inside, 2 of us could
> move it. My front clip can't weigh in more than 50 lb also.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
So, with a 'glass front end, you had to run new electrical grounds, and
remount the radiator, yes?
Any other gotchas?
--
Dale Beckett
> Dale Beckett wrote:
> >
> > L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) ------ III says...
[snip]
>
> Either that or I am a ---- load stronger than I think I am... I could
> easily pick up my 'glass tub and put it on or off the frame when it was
> empty. Even after I placed the seats and roll bar inside, 2 of us could
> move it. My front clip can't weigh in more than 50 lb also.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
So, with a 'glass front end, you had to run new electrical grounds, and
remount the radiator, yes?
Any other gotchas?
--
Dale Beckett
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Re: 85 CJ body tub weight
Mike Romain says...
> Dale Beckett wrote:
> >
> > L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) ------ III says...
[snip]
>
> Either that or I am a ---- load stronger than I think I am... I could
> easily pick up my 'glass tub and put it on or off the frame when it was
> empty. Even after I placed the seats and roll bar inside, 2 of us could
> move it. My front clip can't weigh in more than 50 lb also.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
So, with a 'glass front end, you had to run new electrical grounds, and
remount the radiator, yes?
Any other gotchas?
--
Dale Beckett
> Dale Beckett wrote:
> >
> > L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) ------ III says...
[snip]
>
> Either that or I am a ---- load stronger than I think I am... I could
> easily pick up my 'glass tub and put it on or off the frame when it was
> empty. Even after I placed the seats and roll bar inside, 2 of us could
> move it. My front clip can't weigh in more than 50 lb also.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
So, with a 'glass front end, you had to run new electrical grounds, and
remount the radiator, yes?
Any other gotchas?
--
Dale Beckett
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Re: 85 CJ body tub weight
Mike Romain says...
> Dale Beckett wrote:
> >
> > L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) ------ III says...
[snip]
>
> Either that or I am a ---- load stronger than I think I am... I could
> easily pick up my 'glass tub and put it on or off the frame when it was
> empty. Even after I placed the seats and roll bar inside, 2 of us could
> move it. My front clip can't weigh in more than 50 lb also.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
So, with a 'glass front end, you had to run new electrical grounds, and
remount the radiator, yes?
Any other gotchas?
--
Dale Beckett
> Dale Beckett wrote:
> >
> > L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) ------ III says...
[snip]
>
> Either that or I am a ---- load stronger than I think I am... I could
> easily pick up my 'glass tub and put it on or off the frame when it was
> empty. Even after I placed the seats and roll bar inside, 2 of us could
> move it. My front clip can't weigh in more than 50 lb also.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
So, with a 'glass front end, you had to run new electrical grounds, and
remount the radiator, yes?
Any other gotchas?
--
Dale Beckett
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Re: 85 CJ body tub weight
Dale Beckett wrote:
>
> Mike Romain says...
> > Dale Beckett wrote:
> > >
> > > L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) ------ III says...
> [snip]
> >
> > Either that or I am a ---- load stronger than I think I am... I could
> > easily pick up my 'glass tub and put it on or off the frame when it was
> > empty. Even after I placed the seats and roll bar inside, 2 of us could
> > move it. My front clip can't weigh in more than 50 lb also.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
>
> So, with a 'glass front end, you had to run new electrical grounds, and
> remount the radiator, yes?
>
> Any other gotchas?
>
> --
>
> Dale Beckett
I ran a negative battery cable over to the back of the fuse panel and
mounted some electrical clamps there for the ground wires. I ran a
dedicated 10 ga ground for each harness piece and terminated all of them
at the above ground tap.
For the solenoid ground, I mounted that to the side of the engine block
behind the alternator. The dash also got it's own ground.
I soldered the ground tags right onto the outside of the front signal
lens
sockets and soldered it to the plate inside the rear fixtures.
For the rad, I use an old bed frame and just welded up a couple L shapes
and used old rad hose squares as vibration washers. It held for 5 years
of heavy off roading and one roll over. I finally twisted up enough
last fall to snap the metal side strap on the rad, so welded a 1"x1/8"
bar along the outside of the rad like [. That held until last week when
I snapped the other side on an off road trip. I am just welding that
one up today for the next 4 day trip tomorrow. My Rad will now have
heavy brackets on both sides like [=====] . :-)
You have to watch the roll bar height. The floor can be too thick so
the hard top might not fit on. The heater was a bit of a pain to fit
flush so I use spacers and left it pointing a bit to the passenger
side. You cannot see this when looking at it. I think I had to shorten
the steering brace by 1/4" or so, no trouble there.
I managed to put 6"x1/4"x4" plate under the floor under the roll bar so
the frame mount hits the plate and the seat belt is bolted down to it.
All in all I love the 'glass body! It was worth the work and is so
light my CJ7 is downright scary with the acceleration it has. She goes
like a scalded cat thanks to some nice sites like
http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/ignmods.htm
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Mike Romain says...
> > Dale Beckett wrote:
> > >
> > > L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) ------ III says...
> [snip]
> >
> > Either that or I am a ---- load stronger than I think I am... I could
> > easily pick up my 'glass tub and put it on or off the frame when it was
> > empty. Even after I placed the seats and roll bar inside, 2 of us could
> > move it. My front clip can't weigh in more than 50 lb also.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
>
> So, with a 'glass front end, you had to run new electrical grounds, and
> remount the radiator, yes?
>
> Any other gotchas?
>
> --
>
> Dale Beckett
I ran a negative battery cable over to the back of the fuse panel and
mounted some electrical clamps there for the ground wires. I ran a
dedicated 10 ga ground for each harness piece and terminated all of them
at the above ground tap.
For the solenoid ground, I mounted that to the side of the engine block
behind the alternator. The dash also got it's own ground.
I soldered the ground tags right onto the outside of the front signal
lens
sockets and soldered it to the plate inside the rear fixtures.
For the rad, I use an old bed frame and just welded up a couple L shapes
and used old rad hose squares as vibration washers. It held for 5 years
of heavy off roading and one roll over. I finally twisted up enough
last fall to snap the metal side strap on the rad, so welded a 1"x1/8"
bar along the outside of the rad like [. That held until last week when
I snapped the other side on an off road trip. I am just welding that
one up today for the next 4 day trip tomorrow. My Rad will now have
heavy brackets on both sides like [=====] . :-)
You have to watch the roll bar height. The floor can be too thick so
the hard top might not fit on. The heater was a bit of a pain to fit
flush so I use spacers and left it pointing a bit to the passenger
side. You cannot see this when looking at it. I think I had to shorten
the steering brace by 1/4" or so, no trouble there.
I managed to put 6"x1/4"x4" plate under the floor under the roll bar so
the frame mount hits the plate and the seat belt is bolted down to it.
All in all I love the 'glass body! It was worth the work and is so
light my CJ7 is downright scary with the acceleration it has. She goes
like a scalded cat thanks to some nice sites like
http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/ignmods.htm
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's