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c 07-28-2006 06:04 AM

Re: 79 CJ5 Frame Preservation
 
They are a mail order tool supply store, but they also have online and
retail stores.

http://www.harborfreight.com

You can order online or request a catalog.

I'm in Michigan, but I'm a yooper, so I go to the Harbor Freight store in
Green Bay, WI. ;-)

Chris

"Mike chambers" <MikeChambers@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:15717-44C9C3EA-13@storefull-3118.bay.webtv.net...
> Chris I live in Michigan.
> Where is Harbir Frieght?
> I've heard people talk about it but never been there.
>
> Later Mike
>




c 07-28-2006 06:04 AM

Re: 79 CJ5 Frame Preservation
 
They are a mail order tool supply store, but they also have online and
retail stores.

http://www.harborfreight.com

You can order online or request a catalog.

I'm in Michigan, but I'm a yooper, so I go to the Harbor Freight store in
Green Bay, WI. ;-)

Chris

"Mike chambers" <MikeChambers@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:15717-44C9C3EA-13@storefull-3118.bay.webtv.net...
> Chris I live in Michigan.
> Where is Harbir Frieght?
> I've heard people talk about it but never been there.
>
> Later Mike
>




c 07-28-2006 06:04 AM

Re: 79 CJ5 Frame Preservation
 
They are a mail order tool supply store, but they also have online and
retail stores.

http://www.harborfreight.com

You can order online or request a catalog.

I'm in Michigan, but I'm a yooper, so I go to the Harbor Freight store in
Green Bay, WI. ;-)

Chris

"Mike chambers" <MikeChambers@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:15717-44C9C3EA-13@storefull-3118.bay.webtv.net...
> Chris I live in Michigan.
> Where is Harbir Frieght?
> I've heard people talk about it but never been there.
>
> Later Mike
>




Mike chambers 07-29-2006 04:33 AM

Re: 79 CJ5 Frame Preservation
 
Thanks for the info.
Happy Jeeping!

Later Mike


Mike chambers 07-29-2006 04:33 AM

Re: 79 CJ5 Frame Preservation
 
Thanks for the info.
Happy Jeeping!

Later Mike


Mike chambers 07-29-2006 04:33 AM

Re: 79 CJ5 Frame Preservation
 
Thanks for the info.
Happy Jeeping!

Later Mike


Mike chambers 07-29-2006 04:33 AM

Re: 79 CJ5 Frame Preservation
 
Thanks for the info.
Happy Jeeping!

Later Mike


Lee Ayrton 08-01-2006 07:43 PM

Re: 79 CJ5 Frame Preservation
 

It would be a bit like trying to fish a length of Romex up through a
wall without a fishtape, but yeah, it would work better than nothing.
I'd thought about those wands I hear that the rust proofing guys use to
spray inside body panel spaces. In the end I decided that my CJ would
probably never again see a salted, slushy road or not be parked in a
garage and did what I could and ignored the rest.


Earle Horton wrote:
> Can you run a piece of flexible hose through there, say an air hose? Run
> the hose all the way through, then slowly withdraw it, blowing air the whole
> time. OK, now this is the good part. Spray paint in there with an
> undercoating nozzle, while a helper applies a shop vacuum nozzle to the
> other end!
>
> Earle
>
> "Lee Ayrton" <layrton@REMOVE_ME.panix.com> wrote in message
> news:ea68e4$8hb$1@reader2.panix.com...
>
>>Even with the body off he won't be able to spray enough paint through
>>the holes at the end of `79 CJ-5 frame to get enough coverage to
>>preserve it. Got one, been there. He will be able to get a _bit_
>>better access if he cuts off the rear frame member/bumper, which will
>>allow him to spray paint a foot or so into the frame or about to the
>>trailing end of the rear wheel arch. But it occurs to me that all he'll
>>accomplish is getting a nice coat of paint on the piles of rust and dirt
>>back there inside the box.
>>
>>
>>Earle Horton wrote:
>>
>>>How much money do you have? Do you plan on a frame-off restoration?

>
> What
>
>>>do you plan for body panels? Where do you live? (If you live in New
>>>Mexico, West Texas, or Arizona, why are you even worrying about this?)

>
> As
>
>>>you can see, there are different answers for different situations and
>>>budgets.
>>>
>>>Back in New England, where I grew up, people had lots of confidence in

>
> "hot
>
>>>oil" undercoating. This was something nasty, like bunker oil, that they
>>>heated up and sprayed into all the hidden panel access holes in your

>
> car.
>
>>>They swore by it. If you are doing a frame off, and have lots of $$$$,

>
> you
>
>>>could get the frame dipped like they used to do with AMC unibodies. (I
>>>remember the ads, but as I also remember, AMC unibodies didn't last any
>>>longer than other cars.) You could get the frame galvanized, $$$$$$$$.
>>>
>>>I think that I would spray lots of paint into the boxed areas, and hope

>
> for
>
>>>the best. Pay particular attention to areas that seem to need a drain

>
> hole,
>
>>>and don't have it.
>>>
>>>Earle
>>>
>>>"Neil" <neilbedwell@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:1153754063.810706.188580@m79g2000cwm.googl egroups.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hello! I just recently purchased a 79 CJ5 with a 304 and 4 speed
>>>>tranny. The Jeep is in relatively good shape, but the biggest reason I
>>>>bought it is that the frame is in great shape. Some light to moderate
>>>>surface rust, but nothing major and it's not been patched or welded on.
>>>>It hasn't been messed with in any way that I can tell. Here's my
>>>>question: Obviously, the way to go is to slap a good coat of POR15 on
>>>>it before it gets any worse, but since it is a boxed frame how can I
>>>>make sure that it doesn't rust from the inside out? I would hate to
>>>>spend a fortune on POR15 just to have the rust get it from behind. I
>>>>have searched quite a bit using google for any websites that would show
>>>>some solutions, but to no avail. I appreciate any suggestions. Thanks
>>>>and I hope everyone is having a wonderful day.
>>>>
>>>>Neil
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>--
>>
>> This website supports what I thought would be true, So It Must Be
>>(tm).” David Winsemius willingly creates an anti-motto at room
>>temperature in AFU Labs.

>
>
>



--

This website supports what I thought would be true, So It Must Be
(tm).” David Winsemius willingly creates an anti-motto at room
temperature in AFU Labs.

Lee Ayrton 08-01-2006 07:43 PM

Re: 79 CJ5 Frame Preservation
 

It would be a bit like trying to fish a length of Romex up through a
wall without a fishtape, but yeah, it would work better than nothing.
I'd thought about those wands I hear that the rust proofing guys use to
spray inside body panel spaces. In the end I decided that my CJ would
probably never again see a salted, slushy road or not be parked in a
garage and did what I could and ignored the rest.


Earle Horton wrote:
> Can you run a piece of flexible hose through there, say an air hose? Run
> the hose all the way through, then slowly withdraw it, blowing air the whole
> time. OK, now this is the good part. Spray paint in there with an
> undercoating nozzle, while a helper applies a shop vacuum nozzle to the
> other end!
>
> Earle
>
> "Lee Ayrton" <layrton@REMOVE_ME.panix.com> wrote in message
> news:ea68e4$8hb$1@reader2.panix.com...
>
>>Even with the body off he won't be able to spray enough paint through
>>the holes at the end of `79 CJ-5 frame to get enough coverage to
>>preserve it. Got one, been there. He will be able to get a _bit_
>>better access if he cuts off the rear frame member/bumper, which will
>>allow him to spray paint a foot or so into the frame or about to the
>>trailing end of the rear wheel arch. But it occurs to me that all he'll
>>accomplish is getting a nice coat of paint on the piles of rust and dirt
>>back there inside the box.
>>
>>
>>Earle Horton wrote:
>>
>>>How much money do you have? Do you plan on a frame-off restoration?

>
> What
>
>>>do you plan for body panels? Where do you live? (If you live in New
>>>Mexico, West Texas, or Arizona, why are you even worrying about this?)

>
> As
>
>>>you can see, there are different answers for different situations and
>>>budgets.
>>>
>>>Back in New England, where I grew up, people had lots of confidence in

>
> "hot
>
>>>oil" undercoating. This was something nasty, like bunker oil, that they
>>>heated up and sprayed into all the hidden panel access holes in your

>
> car.
>
>>>They swore by it. If you are doing a frame off, and have lots of $$$$,

>
> you
>
>>>could get the frame dipped like they used to do with AMC unibodies. (I
>>>remember the ads, but as I also remember, AMC unibodies didn't last any
>>>longer than other cars.) You could get the frame galvanized, $$$$$$$$.
>>>
>>>I think that I would spray lots of paint into the boxed areas, and hope

>
> for
>
>>>the best. Pay particular attention to areas that seem to need a drain

>
> hole,
>
>>>and don't have it.
>>>
>>>Earle
>>>
>>>"Neil" <neilbedwell@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:1153754063.810706.188580@m79g2000cwm.googl egroups.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hello! I just recently purchased a 79 CJ5 with a 304 and 4 speed
>>>>tranny. The Jeep is in relatively good shape, but the biggest reason I
>>>>bought it is that the frame is in great shape. Some light to moderate
>>>>surface rust, but nothing major and it's not been patched or welded on.
>>>>It hasn't been messed with in any way that I can tell. Here's my
>>>>question: Obviously, the way to go is to slap a good coat of POR15 on
>>>>it before it gets any worse, but since it is a boxed frame how can I
>>>>make sure that it doesn't rust from the inside out? I would hate to
>>>>spend a fortune on POR15 just to have the rust get it from behind. I
>>>>have searched quite a bit using google for any websites that would show
>>>>some solutions, but to no avail. I appreciate any suggestions. Thanks
>>>>and I hope everyone is having a wonderful day.
>>>>
>>>>Neil
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>--
>>
>> This website supports what I thought would be true, So It Must Be
>>(tm).” David Winsemius willingly creates an anti-motto at room
>>temperature in AFU Labs.

>
>
>



--

This website supports what I thought would be true, So It Must Be
(tm).” David Winsemius willingly creates an anti-motto at room
temperature in AFU Labs.

Lee Ayrton 08-01-2006 07:43 PM

Re: 79 CJ5 Frame Preservation
 

It would be a bit like trying to fish a length of Romex up through a
wall without a fishtape, but yeah, it would work better than nothing.
I'd thought about those wands I hear that the rust proofing guys use to
spray inside body panel spaces. In the end I decided that my CJ would
probably never again see a salted, slushy road or not be parked in a
garage and did what I could and ignored the rest.


Earle Horton wrote:
> Can you run a piece of flexible hose through there, say an air hose? Run
> the hose all the way through, then slowly withdraw it, blowing air the whole
> time. OK, now this is the good part. Spray paint in there with an
> undercoating nozzle, while a helper applies a shop vacuum nozzle to the
> other end!
>
> Earle
>
> "Lee Ayrton" <layrton@REMOVE_ME.panix.com> wrote in message
> news:ea68e4$8hb$1@reader2.panix.com...
>
>>Even with the body off he won't be able to spray enough paint through
>>the holes at the end of `79 CJ-5 frame to get enough coverage to
>>preserve it. Got one, been there. He will be able to get a _bit_
>>better access if he cuts off the rear frame member/bumper, which will
>>allow him to spray paint a foot or so into the frame or about to the
>>trailing end of the rear wheel arch. But it occurs to me that all he'll
>>accomplish is getting a nice coat of paint on the piles of rust and dirt
>>back there inside the box.
>>
>>
>>Earle Horton wrote:
>>
>>>How much money do you have? Do you plan on a frame-off restoration?

>
> What
>
>>>do you plan for body panels? Where do you live? (If you live in New
>>>Mexico, West Texas, or Arizona, why are you even worrying about this?)

>
> As
>
>>>you can see, there are different answers for different situations and
>>>budgets.
>>>
>>>Back in New England, where I grew up, people had lots of confidence in

>
> "hot
>
>>>oil" undercoating. This was something nasty, like bunker oil, that they
>>>heated up and sprayed into all the hidden panel access holes in your

>
> car.
>
>>>They swore by it. If you are doing a frame off, and have lots of $$$$,

>
> you
>
>>>could get the frame dipped like they used to do with AMC unibodies. (I
>>>remember the ads, but as I also remember, AMC unibodies didn't last any
>>>longer than other cars.) You could get the frame galvanized, $$$$$$$$.
>>>
>>>I think that I would spray lots of paint into the boxed areas, and hope

>
> for
>
>>>the best. Pay particular attention to areas that seem to need a drain

>
> hole,
>
>>>and don't have it.
>>>
>>>Earle
>>>
>>>"Neil" <neilbedwell@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:1153754063.810706.188580@m79g2000cwm.googl egroups.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hello! I just recently purchased a 79 CJ5 with a 304 and 4 speed
>>>>tranny. The Jeep is in relatively good shape, but the biggest reason I
>>>>bought it is that the frame is in great shape. Some light to moderate
>>>>surface rust, but nothing major and it's not been patched or welded on.
>>>>It hasn't been messed with in any way that I can tell. Here's my
>>>>question: Obviously, the way to go is to slap a good coat of POR15 on
>>>>it before it gets any worse, but since it is a boxed frame how can I
>>>>make sure that it doesn't rust from the inside out? I would hate to
>>>>spend a fortune on POR15 just to have the rust get it from behind. I
>>>>have searched quite a bit using google for any websites that would show
>>>>some solutions, but to no avail. I appreciate any suggestions. Thanks
>>>>and I hope everyone is having a wonderful day.
>>>>
>>>>Neil
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>--
>>
>> This website supports what I thought would be true, So It Must Be
>>(tm).” David Winsemius willingly creates an anti-motto at room
>>temperature in AFU Labs.

>
>
>



--

This website supports what I thought would be true, So It Must Be
(tm).” David Winsemius willingly creates an anti-motto at room
temperature in AFU Labs.


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