79 CJ5 Frame Preservation
#21
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Re: 79 CJ5 Frame Preservation
Can you run a piece of flexible hose through there, say an air hose? Run
the hose all the way through, then slowly withdraw it, blowing air the whole
time. OK, now this is the good part. Spray paint in there with an
undercoating nozzle, while a helper applies a shop vacuum nozzle to the
other end!
Earle
"Lee Ayrton" <layrton@REMOVE_ME.panix.com> wrote in message
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> Even with the body off he won't be able to spray enough paint through
> the holes at the end of `79 CJ-5 frame to get enough coverage to
> preserve it. Got one, been there. He will be able to get a _bit_
> better access if he cuts off the rear frame member/bumper, which will
> allow him to spray paint a foot or so into the frame or about to the
> trailing end of the rear wheel arch. But it occurs to me that all he'll
> accomplish is getting a nice coat of paint on the piles of rust and dirt
> back there inside the box.
>
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> > How much money do you have? Do you plan on a frame-off restoration?
What
> > do you plan for body panels? Where do you live? (If you live in New
> > Mexico, West Texas, or Arizona, why are you even worrying about this?)
As
> > you can see, there are different answers for different situations and
> > budgets.
> >
> > Back in New England, where I grew up, people had lots of confidence in
"hot
> > oil" undercoating. This was something nasty, like bunker oil, that they
> > heated up and sprayed into all the hidden panel access holes in your
car.
> > They swore by it. If you are doing a frame off, and have lots of $$$$,
you
> > could get the frame dipped like they used to do with AMC unibodies. (I
> > remember the ads, but as I also remember, AMC unibodies didn't last any
> > longer than other cars.) You could get the frame galvanized, $$$$$$$$.
> >
> > I think that I would spray lots of paint into the boxed areas, and hope
for
> > the best. Pay particular attention to areas that seem to need a drain
hole,
> > and don't have it.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Neil" <neilbedwell@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:1153754063.810706.188580@m79g2000cwm.googlegr oups.com...
> >
> >>Hello! I just recently purchased a 79 CJ5 with a 304 and 4 speed
> >>tranny. The Jeep is in relatively good shape, but the biggest reason I
> >>bought it is that the frame is in great shape. Some light to moderate
> >>surface rust, but nothing major and it's not been patched or welded on.
> >> It hasn't been messed with in any way that I can tell. Here's my
> >>question: Obviously, the way to go is to slap a good coat of POR15 on
> >>it before it gets any worse, but since it is a boxed frame how can I
> >>make sure that it doesn't rust from the inside out? I would hate to
> >>spend a fortune on POR15 just to have the rust get it from behind. I
> >>have searched quite a bit using google for any websites that would show
> >>some solutions, but to no avail. I appreciate any suggestions. Thanks
> >>and I hope everyone is having a wonderful day.
> >>
> >>Neil
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
>
> This website supports what I thought would be true, So It Must Be
> (tm).” David Winsemius willingly creates an anti-motto at room
> temperature in AFU Labs.
the hose all the way through, then slowly withdraw it, blowing air the whole
time. OK, now this is the good part. Spray paint in there with an
undercoating nozzle, while a helper applies a shop vacuum nozzle to the
other end!
Earle
"Lee Ayrton" <layrton@REMOVE_ME.panix.com> wrote in message
news:ea68e4$8hb$1@reader2.panix.com...
> Even with the body off he won't be able to spray enough paint through
> the holes at the end of `79 CJ-5 frame to get enough coverage to
> preserve it. Got one, been there. He will be able to get a _bit_
> better access if he cuts off the rear frame member/bumper, which will
> allow him to spray paint a foot or so into the frame or about to the
> trailing end of the rear wheel arch. But it occurs to me that all he'll
> accomplish is getting a nice coat of paint on the piles of rust and dirt
> back there inside the box.
>
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> > How much money do you have? Do you plan on a frame-off restoration?
What
> > do you plan for body panels? Where do you live? (If you live in New
> > Mexico, West Texas, or Arizona, why are you even worrying about this?)
As
> > you can see, there are different answers for different situations and
> > budgets.
> >
> > Back in New England, where I grew up, people had lots of confidence in
"hot
> > oil" undercoating. This was something nasty, like bunker oil, that they
> > heated up and sprayed into all the hidden panel access holes in your
car.
> > They swore by it. If you are doing a frame off, and have lots of $$$$,
you
> > could get the frame dipped like they used to do with AMC unibodies. (I
> > remember the ads, but as I also remember, AMC unibodies didn't last any
> > longer than other cars.) You could get the frame galvanized, $$$$$$$$.
> >
> > I think that I would spray lots of paint into the boxed areas, and hope
for
> > the best. Pay particular attention to areas that seem to need a drain
hole,
> > and don't have it.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Neil" <neilbedwell@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:1153754063.810706.188580@m79g2000cwm.googlegr oups.com...
> >
> >>Hello! I just recently purchased a 79 CJ5 with a 304 and 4 speed
> >>tranny. The Jeep is in relatively good shape, but the biggest reason I
> >>bought it is that the frame is in great shape. Some light to moderate
> >>surface rust, but nothing major and it's not been patched or welded on.
> >> It hasn't been messed with in any way that I can tell. Here's my
> >>question: Obviously, the way to go is to slap a good coat of POR15 on
> >>it before it gets any worse, but since it is a boxed frame how can I
> >>make sure that it doesn't rust from the inside out? I would hate to
> >>spend a fortune on POR15 just to have the rust get it from behind. I
> >>have searched quite a bit using google for any websites that would show
> >>some solutions, but to no avail. I appreciate any suggestions. Thanks
> >>and I hope everyone is having a wonderful day.
> >>
> >>Neil
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
>
> This website supports what I thought would be true, So It Must Be
> (tm).” David Winsemius willingly creates an anti-motto at room
> temperature in AFU Labs.
#22
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Re: 79 CJ5 Frame Preservation
There is a shop near here (central NY) that hot dips guard rails and road
sign supports. I understand that their tank is the biggest in the state and
could easily fit a truck frame inside. Three years ago they were charging
around 65 cents a pound to tank strip and galvanize. I am seriously thinking
about taking one of my frames over there.
I painted POR-15 on my CJ frame about 12 years ago. It held up very well
but the rust inside the frame eventually ------ out through the holes in the
frame and lifted the POR-15 around the holes, causing some flaking. I never
top-coated it and the POR-15 turned a bit milky with UV exposure. Spraying
inside the frame with an undercoating nozzle is a great idea, just wrap a
bit of wire around it to keep it center inside the frame.
Just be real careful of spray out through the holes because you don't
want to have to clean this stuff off from anything.
Jeff
"Neil" <neilbedwell@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1153754063.810706.188580@m79g2000cwm.googlegr oups.com...
> Hello! I just recently purchased a 79 CJ5 with a 304 and 4 speed
> tranny. The Jeep is in relatively good shape, but the biggest reason I
> bought it is that the frame is in great shape. Some light to moderate
> surface rust, but nothing major and it's not been patched or welded on.
> It hasn't been messed with in any way that I can tell. Here's my
> question: Obviously, the way to go is to slap a good coat of POR15 on
> it before it gets any worse, but since it is a boxed frame how can I
> make sure that it doesn't rust from the inside out? I would hate to
> spend a fortune on POR15 just to have the rust get it from behind. I
> have searched quite a bit using google for any websites that would show
> some solutions, but to no avail. I appreciate any suggestions. Thanks
> and I hope everyone is having a wonderful day.
>
> Neil
>
sign supports. I understand that their tank is the biggest in the state and
could easily fit a truck frame inside. Three years ago they were charging
around 65 cents a pound to tank strip and galvanize. I am seriously thinking
about taking one of my frames over there.
I painted POR-15 on my CJ frame about 12 years ago. It held up very well
but the rust inside the frame eventually ------ out through the holes in the
frame and lifted the POR-15 around the holes, causing some flaking. I never
top-coated it and the POR-15 turned a bit milky with UV exposure. Spraying
inside the frame with an undercoating nozzle is a great idea, just wrap a
bit of wire around it to keep it center inside the frame.
Just be real careful of spray out through the holes because you don't
want to have to clean this stuff off from anything.
Jeff
"Neil" <neilbedwell@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1153754063.810706.188580@m79g2000cwm.googlegr oups.com...
> Hello! I just recently purchased a 79 CJ5 with a 304 and 4 speed
> tranny. The Jeep is in relatively good shape, but the biggest reason I
> bought it is that the frame is in great shape. Some light to moderate
> surface rust, but nothing major and it's not been patched or welded on.
> It hasn't been messed with in any way that I can tell. Here's my
> question: Obviously, the way to go is to slap a good coat of POR15 on
> it before it gets any worse, but since it is a boxed frame how can I
> make sure that it doesn't rust from the inside out? I would hate to
> spend a fortune on POR15 just to have the rust get it from behind. I
> have searched quite a bit using google for any websites that would show
> some solutions, but to no avail. I appreciate any suggestions. Thanks
> and I hope everyone is having a wonderful day.
>
> Neil
>
#23
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Re: 79 CJ5 Frame Preservation
There is a shop near here (central NY) that hot dips guard rails and road
sign supports. I understand that their tank is the biggest in the state and
could easily fit a truck frame inside. Three years ago they were charging
around 65 cents a pound to tank strip and galvanize. I am seriously thinking
about taking one of my frames over there.
I painted POR-15 on my CJ frame about 12 years ago. It held up very well
but the rust inside the frame eventually ------ out through the holes in the
frame and lifted the POR-15 around the holes, causing some flaking. I never
top-coated it and the POR-15 turned a bit milky with UV exposure. Spraying
inside the frame with an undercoating nozzle is a great idea, just wrap a
bit of wire around it to keep it center inside the frame.
Just be real careful of spray out through the holes because you don't
want to have to clean this stuff off from anything.
Jeff
"Neil" <neilbedwell@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1153754063.810706.188580@m79g2000cwm.googlegr oups.com...
> Hello! I just recently purchased a 79 CJ5 with a 304 and 4 speed
> tranny. The Jeep is in relatively good shape, but the biggest reason I
> bought it is that the frame is in great shape. Some light to moderate
> surface rust, but nothing major and it's not been patched or welded on.
> It hasn't been messed with in any way that I can tell. Here's my
> question: Obviously, the way to go is to slap a good coat of POR15 on
> it before it gets any worse, but since it is a boxed frame how can I
> make sure that it doesn't rust from the inside out? I would hate to
> spend a fortune on POR15 just to have the rust get it from behind. I
> have searched quite a bit using google for any websites that would show
> some solutions, but to no avail. I appreciate any suggestions. Thanks
> and I hope everyone is having a wonderful day.
>
> Neil
>
sign supports. I understand that their tank is the biggest in the state and
could easily fit a truck frame inside. Three years ago they were charging
around 65 cents a pound to tank strip and galvanize. I am seriously thinking
about taking one of my frames over there.
I painted POR-15 on my CJ frame about 12 years ago. It held up very well
but the rust inside the frame eventually ------ out through the holes in the
frame and lifted the POR-15 around the holes, causing some flaking. I never
top-coated it and the POR-15 turned a bit milky with UV exposure. Spraying
inside the frame with an undercoating nozzle is a great idea, just wrap a
bit of wire around it to keep it center inside the frame.
Just be real careful of spray out through the holes because you don't
want to have to clean this stuff off from anything.
Jeff
"Neil" <neilbedwell@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1153754063.810706.188580@m79g2000cwm.googlegr oups.com...
> Hello! I just recently purchased a 79 CJ5 with a 304 and 4 speed
> tranny. The Jeep is in relatively good shape, but the biggest reason I
> bought it is that the frame is in great shape. Some light to moderate
> surface rust, but nothing major and it's not been patched or welded on.
> It hasn't been messed with in any way that I can tell. Here's my
> question: Obviously, the way to go is to slap a good coat of POR15 on
> it before it gets any worse, but since it is a boxed frame how can I
> make sure that it doesn't rust from the inside out? I would hate to
> spend a fortune on POR15 just to have the rust get it from behind. I
> have searched quite a bit using google for any websites that would show
> some solutions, but to no avail. I appreciate any suggestions. Thanks
> and I hope everyone is having a wonderful day.
>
> Neil
>
#24
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Re: 79 CJ5 Frame Preservation
There is a shop near here (central NY) that hot dips guard rails and road
sign supports. I understand that their tank is the biggest in the state and
could easily fit a truck frame inside. Three years ago they were charging
around 65 cents a pound to tank strip and galvanize. I am seriously thinking
about taking one of my frames over there.
I painted POR-15 on my CJ frame about 12 years ago. It held up very well
but the rust inside the frame eventually ------ out through the holes in the
frame and lifted the POR-15 around the holes, causing some flaking. I never
top-coated it and the POR-15 turned a bit milky with UV exposure. Spraying
inside the frame with an undercoating nozzle is a great idea, just wrap a
bit of wire around it to keep it center inside the frame.
Just be real careful of spray out through the holes because you don't
want to have to clean this stuff off from anything.
Jeff
"Neil" <neilbedwell@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1153754063.810706.188580@m79g2000cwm.googlegr oups.com...
> Hello! I just recently purchased a 79 CJ5 with a 304 and 4 speed
> tranny. The Jeep is in relatively good shape, but the biggest reason I
> bought it is that the frame is in great shape. Some light to moderate
> surface rust, but nothing major and it's not been patched or welded on.
> It hasn't been messed with in any way that I can tell. Here's my
> question: Obviously, the way to go is to slap a good coat of POR15 on
> it before it gets any worse, but since it is a boxed frame how can I
> make sure that it doesn't rust from the inside out? I would hate to
> spend a fortune on POR15 just to have the rust get it from behind. I
> have searched quite a bit using google for any websites that would show
> some solutions, but to no avail. I appreciate any suggestions. Thanks
> and I hope everyone is having a wonderful day.
>
> Neil
>
sign supports. I understand that their tank is the biggest in the state and
could easily fit a truck frame inside. Three years ago they were charging
around 65 cents a pound to tank strip and galvanize. I am seriously thinking
about taking one of my frames over there.
I painted POR-15 on my CJ frame about 12 years ago. It held up very well
but the rust inside the frame eventually ------ out through the holes in the
frame and lifted the POR-15 around the holes, causing some flaking. I never
top-coated it and the POR-15 turned a bit milky with UV exposure. Spraying
inside the frame with an undercoating nozzle is a great idea, just wrap a
bit of wire around it to keep it center inside the frame.
Just be real careful of spray out through the holes because you don't
want to have to clean this stuff off from anything.
Jeff
"Neil" <neilbedwell@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1153754063.810706.188580@m79g2000cwm.googlegr oups.com...
> Hello! I just recently purchased a 79 CJ5 with a 304 and 4 speed
> tranny. The Jeep is in relatively good shape, but the biggest reason I
> bought it is that the frame is in great shape. Some light to moderate
> surface rust, but nothing major and it's not been patched or welded on.
> It hasn't been messed with in any way that I can tell. Here's my
> question: Obviously, the way to go is to slap a good coat of POR15 on
> it before it gets any worse, but since it is a boxed frame how can I
> make sure that it doesn't rust from the inside out? I would hate to
> spend a fortune on POR15 just to have the rust get it from behind. I
> have searched quite a bit using google for any websites that would show
> some solutions, but to no avail. I appreciate any suggestions. Thanks
> and I hope everyone is having a wonderful day.
>
> Neil
>
#25
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Re: 79 CJ5 Frame Preservation
There is a shop near here (central NY) that hot dips guard rails and road
sign supports. I understand that their tank is the biggest in the state and
could easily fit a truck frame inside. Three years ago they were charging
around 65 cents a pound to tank strip and galvanize. I am seriously thinking
about taking one of my frames over there.
I painted POR-15 on my CJ frame about 12 years ago. It held up very well
but the rust inside the frame eventually ------ out through the holes in the
frame and lifted the POR-15 around the holes, causing some flaking. I never
top-coated it and the POR-15 turned a bit milky with UV exposure. Spraying
inside the frame with an undercoating nozzle is a great idea, just wrap a
bit of wire around it to keep it center inside the frame.
Just be real careful of spray out through the holes because you don't
want to have to clean this stuff off from anything.
Jeff
"Neil" <neilbedwell@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1153754063.810706.188580@m79g2000cwm.googlegr oups.com...
> Hello! I just recently purchased a 79 CJ5 with a 304 and 4 speed
> tranny. The Jeep is in relatively good shape, but the biggest reason I
> bought it is that the frame is in great shape. Some light to moderate
> surface rust, but nothing major and it's not been patched or welded on.
> It hasn't been messed with in any way that I can tell. Here's my
> question: Obviously, the way to go is to slap a good coat of POR15 on
> it before it gets any worse, but since it is a boxed frame how can I
> make sure that it doesn't rust from the inside out? I would hate to
> spend a fortune on POR15 just to have the rust get it from behind. I
> have searched quite a bit using google for any websites that would show
> some solutions, but to no avail. I appreciate any suggestions. Thanks
> and I hope everyone is having a wonderful day.
>
> Neil
>
sign supports. I understand that their tank is the biggest in the state and
could easily fit a truck frame inside. Three years ago they were charging
around 65 cents a pound to tank strip and galvanize. I am seriously thinking
about taking one of my frames over there.
I painted POR-15 on my CJ frame about 12 years ago. It held up very well
but the rust inside the frame eventually ------ out through the holes in the
frame and lifted the POR-15 around the holes, causing some flaking. I never
top-coated it and the POR-15 turned a bit milky with UV exposure. Spraying
inside the frame with an undercoating nozzle is a great idea, just wrap a
bit of wire around it to keep it center inside the frame.
Just be real careful of spray out through the holes because you don't
want to have to clean this stuff off from anything.
Jeff
"Neil" <neilbedwell@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1153754063.810706.188580@m79g2000cwm.googlegr oups.com...
> Hello! I just recently purchased a 79 CJ5 with a 304 and 4 speed
> tranny. The Jeep is in relatively good shape, but the biggest reason I
> bought it is that the frame is in great shape. Some light to moderate
> surface rust, but nothing major and it's not been patched or welded on.
> It hasn't been messed with in any way that I can tell. Here's my
> question: Obviously, the way to go is to slap a good coat of POR15 on
> it before it gets any worse, but since it is a boxed frame how can I
> make sure that it doesn't rust from the inside out? I would hate to
> spend a fortune on POR15 just to have the rust get it from behind. I
> have searched quite a bit using google for any websites that would show
> some solutions, but to no avail. I appreciate any suggestions. Thanks
> and I hope everyone is having a wonderful day.
>
> Neil
>
#30
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Re: 79 CJ5 Frame Preservation
They are a mail order tool supply store, but they also have online and
retail stores.
http://www.harborfreight.com
You can order online or request a catalog.
I'm in Michigan, but I'm a yooper, so I go to the Harbor Freight store in
Green Bay, WI. ;-)
Chris
"Mike chambers" <MikeChambers@webtv.net> wrote in message
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> Chris I live in Michigan.
> Where is Harbir Frieght?
> I've heard people talk about it but never been there.
>
> Later Mike
>
retail stores.
http://www.harborfreight.com
You can order online or request a catalog.
I'm in Michigan, but I'm a yooper, so I go to the Harbor Freight store in
Green Bay, WI. ;-)
Chris
"Mike chambers" <MikeChambers@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:15717-44C9C3EA-13@storefull-3118.bay.webtv.net...
> Chris I live in Michigan.
> Where is Harbir Frieght?
> I've heard people talk about it but never been there.
>
> Later Mike
>