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Re: 76 CJ5
Cool on the D300. He's asking $1500 for this Jeep, but I still need to take
a look at it. How hard is it to change out the wiring harness with a new one from painless? I have heard that if the AMC20's 2-piece shafts are not properly re-installed after removal, they are weak. How does this happen? What is generally the cost of a 1-piece axle conversion? Are the shafts 31 spline? Are any lunchbox lockers availible for the 20? Carl "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:OoOdnZJ3XvzdLivZnZ2dnUVZ_rydnZ2d@ez2.net... > > "Carl" <carlsaiyed@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message > news:Jc-dnehLSal-GSvZnZ2dnUVZ_rOdnZ2d@comcast.com... >> I'm looking at a 76 CJ5 for real cheap. It's got the AMC 304. It has some >> new parts and apparently runs well. The carb has been 'upgraded' to a >> holley 2bbl. It will need a starter, exhaust, and a wiring harness. The >> wiring harness is the big ? for me, since I don't know how bad it is. >> > > >> How can I tell if the t-case is a D300, 20, or 18? > It's a D300 in 1976. > > > >> Did all v-8 CJ's get the AMC20?. > The AMC20 is the rear end, and it could be an AMC20 or a Dana 44 in that > truck. > > > > |
Re: 76 CJ5
Hi Bill,
You typed out the compression ratio without looking at it? That and the smaller valves, cam and carburetor, are responsible for the horsepower loss, not some imaginary new horsepower evaluation! http://www.----------.com/amchpchart.jpg Of course, with pop-ups and cam it's right back at four hundred horsepower. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- billy ray wrote: > > There was nothing wrong with the AMC 304 that wasn't because of the EPA. > The 'huge' drop in horsepower was because of the change in the way they > measured it. 150 'new' horsepower was about the same as 180-190 'old' > horsepower and the engine is capable of substantial upgrades. > > http://www.jeeptech.com/engine/amc304.html > > The 304 used from '72-'78 has the best performance of all the 304s used in > the CJ. . > > AMC 304 V8 > Bore x Stroke 3.75" x 3.44" > Displacement 304(4.98L) > Compression Ratio 8.4:1 > Horsepower (net) 150@4200 > Torque (net) 245@2500 > Main Bearings 5 > Valve Configuration OHV > Fuel 2bbl > > CJ model Information: > http://www.earlycj5.com/tech/general...ersGuide.shtml > > Final AMC (Long 83 inch wheel base) 1976 through 1983 > Identifying features include: > a.. Longer hood and front fenders to accommodate the AMC I-6 engines > b.. Engine(s) AMC 232 CID or 258 CID I-6, AMC 304 V-8 > c.. New stronger, wider frame with longer springs for softer ride > d.. Fuel tank and fuel-fill located in rear of the tub > e.. Wide windshield frame with built-in door hinges fold-down knobs with > wipers mounted on bottom and motor mounted on the inside > f.. New floorboard and changed seating bracket design > g.. Saginaw steering box (power steering optional) > h.. Dana Model 20, after 1979, Dana Model 300 transfer case > i.. Dana Model 30 front axle > j.. AMC Model 20 2 piece rear axle identified by it's "WWI Round Helmet" > style differential cover > k.. Three speed transmission T-150, T-18 Four speed transmission optional > l.. Laredo and Renegade models had the tailgate deleted, spare tire > mounted on rear, models with a tailgate had a swing away tire carrier > m.. Levi and Golden Eagle trim levels available > n.. Silver Anniversary edition released for 79 only |
Re: 76 CJ5
Hi Bill,
You typed out the compression ratio without looking at it? That and the smaller valves, cam and carburetor, are responsible for the horsepower loss, not some imaginary new horsepower evaluation! http://www.----------.com/amchpchart.jpg Of course, with pop-ups and cam it's right back at four hundred horsepower. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- billy ray wrote: > > There was nothing wrong with the AMC 304 that wasn't because of the EPA. > The 'huge' drop in horsepower was because of the change in the way they > measured it. 150 'new' horsepower was about the same as 180-190 'old' > horsepower and the engine is capable of substantial upgrades. > > http://www.jeeptech.com/engine/amc304.html > > The 304 used from '72-'78 has the best performance of all the 304s used in > the CJ. . > > AMC 304 V8 > Bore x Stroke 3.75" x 3.44" > Displacement 304(4.98L) > Compression Ratio 8.4:1 > Horsepower (net) 150@4200 > Torque (net) 245@2500 > Main Bearings 5 > Valve Configuration OHV > Fuel 2bbl > > CJ model Information: > http://www.earlycj5.com/tech/general...ersGuide.shtml > > Final AMC (Long 83 inch wheel base) 1976 through 1983 > Identifying features include: > a.. Longer hood and front fenders to accommodate the AMC I-6 engines > b.. Engine(s) AMC 232 CID or 258 CID I-6, AMC 304 V-8 > c.. New stronger, wider frame with longer springs for softer ride > d.. Fuel tank and fuel-fill located in rear of the tub > e.. Wide windshield frame with built-in door hinges fold-down knobs with > wipers mounted on bottom and motor mounted on the inside > f.. New floorboard and changed seating bracket design > g.. Saginaw steering box (power steering optional) > h.. Dana Model 20, after 1979, Dana Model 300 transfer case > i.. Dana Model 30 front axle > j.. AMC Model 20 2 piece rear axle identified by it's "WWI Round Helmet" > style differential cover > k.. Three speed transmission T-150, T-18 Four speed transmission optional > l.. Laredo and Renegade models had the tailgate deleted, spare tire > mounted on rear, models with a tailgate had a swing away tire carrier > m.. Levi and Golden Eagle trim levels available > n.. Silver Anniversary edition released for 79 only |
Re: 76 CJ5
Hi Bill,
You typed out the compression ratio without looking at it? That and the smaller valves, cam and carburetor, are responsible for the horsepower loss, not some imaginary new horsepower evaluation! http://www.----------.com/amchpchart.jpg Of course, with pop-ups and cam it's right back at four hundred horsepower. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- billy ray wrote: > > There was nothing wrong with the AMC 304 that wasn't because of the EPA. > The 'huge' drop in horsepower was because of the change in the way they > measured it. 150 'new' horsepower was about the same as 180-190 'old' > horsepower and the engine is capable of substantial upgrades. > > http://www.jeeptech.com/engine/amc304.html > > The 304 used from '72-'78 has the best performance of all the 304s used in > the CJ. . > > AMC 304 V8 > Bore x Stroke 3.75" x 3.44" > Displacement 304(4.98L) > Compression Ratio 8.4:1 > Horsepower (net) 150@4200 > Torque (net) 245@2500 > Main Bearings 5 > Valve Configuration OHV > Fuel 2bbl > > CJ model Information: > http://www.earlycj5.com/tech/general...ersGuide.shtml > > Final AMC (Long 83 inch wheel base) 1976 through 1983 > Identifying features include: > a.. Longer hood and front fenders to accommodate the AMC I-6 engines > b.. Engine(s) AMC 232 CID or 258 CID I-6, AMC 304 V-8 > c.. New stronger, wider frame with longer springs for softer ride > d.. Fuel tank and fuel-fill located in rear of the tub > e.. Wide windshield frame with built-in door hinges fold-down knobs with > wipers mounted on bottom and motor mounted on the inside > f.. New floorboard and changed seating bracket design > g.. Saginaw steering box (power steering optional) > h.. Dana Model 20, after 1979, Dana Model 300 transfer case > i.. Dana Model 30 front axle > j.. AMC Model 20 2 piece rear axle identified by it's "WWI Round Helmet" > style differential cover > k.. Three speed transmission T-150, T-18 Four speed transmission optional > l.. Laredo and Renegade models had the tailgate deleted, spare tire > mounted on rear, models with a tailgate had a swing away tire carrier > m.. Levi and Golden Eagle trim levels available > n.. Silver Anniversary edition released for 79 only |
Re: 76 CJ5
"Carl" <carlsaiyed@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message news:_pqdnXM_E66KKivZnZ2dnUVZ_oOdnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > Cool on the D300. He's asking $1500 for this Jeep, but I still need to > take a look at it. How hard is it to change out the wiring harness with a > new one from painless? > I have not done a Painless Wire Harness, but those that have and reported back here said it was easy. > I have heard that if the AMC20's 2-piece shafts are not properly > re-installed after removal, they are weak. How does this happen? What is > generally the cost of a 1-piece axle conversion? Are the shafts 31 spline? The one-piece axles from either Superior Gear or Moser are much better than the two piece axles. > Are any lunchbox lockers availible for the 20? > I have a full Detroit locker in my AMC20, and a EZLocker in my D30 in the front. > Carl > > > > > > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:OoOdnZJ3XvzdLivZnZ2dnUVZ_rydnZ2d@ez2.net... >> >> "Carl" <carlsaiyed@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message >> news:Jc-dnehLSal-GSvZnZ2dnUVZ_rOdnZ2d@comcast.com... >>> I'm looking at a 76 CJ5 for real cheap. It's got the AMC 304. It has >>> some new parts and apparently runs well. The carb has been 'upgraded' to >>> a holley 2bbl. It will need a starter, exhaust, and a wiring harness. >>> The wiring harness is the big ? for me, since I don't know how bad it >>> is. >>> >> >> >>> How can I tell if the t-case is a D300, 20, or 18? >> It's a D300 in 1976. >> >> >> >>> Did all v-8 CJ's get the AMC20?. >> The AMC20 is the rear end, and it could be an AMC20 or a Dana 44 in that >> truck. >> >> >> >> > > |
Re: 76 CJ5
"Carl" <carlsaiyed@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message news:_pqdnXM_E66KKivZnZ2dnUVZ_oOdnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > Cool on the D300. He's asking $1500 for this Jeep, but I still need to > take a look at it. How hard is it to change out the wiring harness with a > new one from painless? > I have not done a Painless Wire Harness, but those that have and reported back here said it was easy. > I have heard that if the AMC20's 2-piece shafts are not properly > re-installed after removal, they are weak. How does this happen? What is > generally the cost of a 1-piece axle conversion? Are the shafts 31 spline? The one-piece axles from either Superior Gear or Moser are much better than the two piece axles. > Are any lunchbox lockers availible for the 20? > I have a full Detroit locker in my AMC20, and a EZLocker in my D30 in the front. > Carl > > > > > > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:OoOdnZJ3XvzdLivZnZ2dnUVZ_rydnZ2d@ez2.net... >> >> "Carl" <carlsaiyed@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message >> news:Jc-dnehLSal-GSvZnZ2dnUVZ_rOdnZ2d@comcast.com... >>> I'm looking at a 76 CJ5 for real cheap. It's got the AMC 304. It has >>> some new parts and apparently runs well. The carb has been 'upgraded' to >>> a holley 2bbl. It will need a starter, exhaust, and a wiring harness. >>> The wiring harness is the big ? for me, since I don't know how bad it >>> is. >>> >> >> >>> How can I tell if the t-case is a D300, 20, or 18? >> It's a D300 in 1976. >> >> >> >>> Did all v-8 CJ's get the AMC20?. >> The AMC20 is the rear end, and it could be an AMC20 or a Dana 44 in that >> truck. >> >> >> >> > > |
Re: 76 CJ5
"Carl" <carlsaiyed@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message news:_pqdnXM_E66KKivZnZ2dnUVZ_oOdnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > Cool on the D300. He's asking $1500 for this Jeep, but I still need to > take a look at it. How hard is it to change out the wiring harness with a > new one from painless? > I have not done a Painless Wire Harness, but those that have and reported back here said it was easy. > I have heard that if the AMC20's 2-piece shafts are not properly > re-installed after removal, they are weak. How does this happen? What is > generally the cost of a 1-piece axle conversion? Are the shafts 31 spline? The one-piece axles from either Superior Gear or Moser are much better than the two piece axles. > Are any lunchbox lockers availible for the 20? > I have a full Detroit locker in my AMC20, and a EZLocker in my D30 in the front. > Carl > > > > > > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:OoOdnZJ3XvzdLivZnZ2dnUVZ_rydnZ2d@ez2.net... >> >> "Carl" <carlsaiyed@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message >> news:Jc-dnehLSal-GSvZnZ2dnUVZ_rOdnZ2d@comcast.com... >>> I'm looking at a 76 CJ5 for real cheap. It's got the AMC 304. It has >>> some new parts and apparently runs well. The carb has been 'upgraded' to >>> a holley 2bbl. It will need a starter, exhaust, and a wiring harness. >>> The wiring harness is the big ? for me, since I don't know how bad it >>> is. >>> >> >> >>> How can I tell if the t-case is a D300, 20, or 18? >> It's a D300 in 1976. >> >> >> >>> Did all v-8 CJ's get the AMC20?. >> The AMC20 is the rear end, and it could be an AMC20 or a Dana 44 in that >> truck. >> >> >> >> > > |
Re: 76 CJ5
Jeff,
Are you running the stock two-pieces axles or have you upgraded to one piece axles? Did you get standard axles or chrome-moly? Does the D300 have a yoke output, flanged output, or splined (slip-yoke) output? (front and rear) Does the AMC304 use electronic ignition? Is a 76 CJ5 narrow track? What does narrow track even mean? Is the entire Jeep actually narrower than a YJ? Carl "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:76ydnUQhc6LuJyvZnZ2dnUVZ_o-dnZ2d@ez2.net... > > "Carl" <carlsaiyed@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message > news:_pqdnXM_E66KKivZnZ2dnUVZ_oOdnZ2d@comcast.com. .. >> Cool on the D300. He's asking $1500 for this Jeep, but I still need to >> take a look at it. How hard is it to change out the wiring harness with a >> new one from painless? >> > > I have not done a Painless Wire Harness, but those that have and reported > back here said it was easy. > > > >> I have heard that if the AMC20's 2-piece shafts are not properly >> re-installed after removal, they are weak. How does this happen? What is >> generally the cost of a 1-piece axle conversion? Are the shafts 31 >> spline? > > The one-piece axles from either Superior Gear or Moser are much better > than the two piece axles. > > >> Are any lunchbox lockers availible for the 20? >> > > I have a full Detroit locker in my AMC20, and a EZLocker in my D30 in the > front. > > > > >> Carl >> >> >> >> >> >> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> news:OoOdnZJ3XvzdLivZnZ2dnUVZ_rydnZ2d@ez2.net... >>> >>> "Carl" <carlsaiyed@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message >>> news:Jc-dnehLSal-GSvZnZ2dnUVZ_rOdnZ2d@comcast.com... >>>> I'm looking at a 76 CJ5 for real cheap. It's got the AMC 304. It has >>>> some new parts and apparently runs well. The carb has been 'upgraded' >>>> to a holley 2bbl. It will need a starter, exhaust, and a wiring >>>> harness. The wiring harness is the big ? for me, since I don't know how >>>> bad it is. >>>> >>> >>> >>>> How can I tell if the t-case is a D300, 20, or 18? >>> It's a D300 in 1976. >>> >>> >>> >>>> Did all v-8 CJ's get the AMC20?. >>> The AMC20 is the rear end, and it could be an AMC20 or a Dana 44 in that >>> truck. >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > |
Re: 76 CJ5
Jeff,
Are you running the stock two-pieces axles or have you upgraded to one piece axles? Did you get standard axles or chrome-moly? Does the D300 have a yoke output, flanged output, or splined (slip-yoke) output? (front and rear) Does the AMC304 use electronic ignition? Is a 76 CJ5 narrow track? What does narrow track even mean? Is the entire Jeep actually narrower than a YJ? Carl "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:76ydnUQhc6LuJyvZnZ2dnUVZ_o-dnZ2d@ez2.net... > > "Carl" <carlsaiyed@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message > news:_pqdnXM_E66KKivZnZ2dnUVZ_oOdnZ2d@comcast.com. .. >> Cool on the D300. He's asking $1500 for this Jeep, but I still need to >> take a look at it. How hard is it to change out the wiring harness with a >> new one from painless? >> > > I have not done a Painless Wire Harness, but those that have and reported > back here said it was easy. > > > >> I have heard that if the AMC20's 2-piece shafts are not properly >> re-installed after removal, they are weak. How does this happen? What is >> generally the cost of a 1-piece axle conversion? Are the shafts 31 >> spline? > > The one-piece axles from either Superior Gear or Moser are much better > than the two piece axles. > > >> Are any lunchbox lockers availible for the 20? >> > > I have a full Detroit locker in my AMC20, and a EZLocker in my D30 in the > front. > > > > >> Carl >> >> >> >> >> >> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> news:OoOdnZJ3XvzdLivZnZ2dnUVZ_rydnZ2d@ez2.net... >>> >>> "Carl" <carlsaiyed@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message >>> news:Jc-dnehLSal-GSvZnZ2dnUVZ_rOdnZ2d@comcast.com... >>>> I'm looking at a 76 CJ5 for real cheap. It's got the AMC 304. It has >>>> some new parts and apparently runs well. The carb has been 'upgraded' >>>> to a holley 2bbl. It will need a starter, exhaust, and a wiring >>>> harness. The wiring harness is the big ? for me, since I don't know how >>>> bad it is. >>>> >>> >>> >>>> How can I tell if the t-case is a D300, 20, or 18? >>> It's a D300 in 1976. >>> >>> >>> >>>> Did all v-8 CJ's get the AMC20?. >>> The AMC20 is the rear end, and it could be an AMC20 or a Dana 44 in that >>> truck. >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > |
Re: 76 CJ5
Jeff,
Are you running the stock two-pieces axles or have you upgraded to one piece axles? Did you get standard axles or chrome-moly? Does the D300 have a yoke output, flanged output, or splined (slip-yoke) output? (front and rear) Does the AMC304 use electronic ignition? Is a 76 CJ5 narrow track? What does narrow track even mean? Is the entire Jeep actually narrower than a YJ? Carl "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:76ydnUQhc6LuJyvZnZ2dnUVZ_o-dnZ2d@ez2.net... > > "Carl" <carlsaiyed@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message > news:_pqdnXM_E66KKivZnZ2dnUVZ_oOdnZ2d@comcast.com. .. >> Cool on the D300. He's asking $1500 for this Jeep, but I still need to >> take a look at it. How hard is it to change out the wiring harness with a >> new one from painless? >> > > I have not done a Painless Wire Harness, but those that have and reported > back here said it was easy. > > > >> I have heard that if the AMC20's 2-piece shafts are not properly >> re-installed after removal, they are weak. How does this happen? What is >> generally the cost of a 1-piece axle conversion? Are the shafts 31 >> spline? > > The one-piece axles from either Superior Gear or Moser are much better > than the two piece axles. > > >> Are any lunchbox lockers availible for the 20? >> > > I have a full Detroit locker in my AMC20, and a EZLocker in my D30 in the > front. > > > > >> Carl >> >> >> >> >> >> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> news:OoOdnZJ3XvzdLivZnZ2dnUVZ_rydnZ2d@ez2.net... >>> >>> "Carl" <carlsaiyed@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message >>> news:Jc-dnehLSal-GSvZnZ2dnUVZ_rOdnZ2d@comcast.com... >>>> I'm looking at a 76 CJ5 for real cheap. It's got the AMC 304. It has >>>> some new parts and apparently runs well. The carb has been 'upgraded' >>>> to a holley 2bbl. It will need a starter, exhaust, and a wiring >>>> harness. The wiring harness is the big ? for me, since I don't know how >>>> bad it is. >>>> >>> >>> >>>> How can I tell if the t-case is a D300, 20, or 18? >>> It's a D300 in 1976. >>> >>> >>> >>>> Did all v-8 CJ's get the AMC20?. >>> The AMC20 is the rear end, and it could be an AMC20 or a Dana 44 in that >>> truck. >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > |
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