76 CJ5
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Re: 76 CJ5
"Carl" <carlsaiyed@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
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> I'm looking at a 76 CJ5 for real cheap. It's got the AMC 304. It has some
> new parts and apparently runs well. The carb has been 'upgraded' to a
> holley 2bbl. It will need a starter, exhaust, and a wiring harness. The
> wiring harness is the big ? for me, since I don't know how bad it is.
>
> How can I tell if the t-case is a D300, 20, or 18?
It's a D300 in 1976.
> Did all v-8 CJ's get the AMC20?.
The AMC20 is the rear end, and it could be an AMC20 or a Dana 44 in that
truck.
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Re: 76 CJ5
"Carl" <carlsaiyed@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
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> I'm looking at a 76 CJ5 for real cheap. It's got the AMC 304. It has some
> new parts and apparently runs well. The carb has been 'upgraded' to a
> holley 2bbl. It will need a starter, exhaust, and a wiring harness. The
> wiring harness is the big ? for me, since I don't know how bad it is.
>
> How can I tell if the t-case is a D300, 20, or 18?
It's a D300 in 1976.
> Did all v-8 CJ's get the AMC20?.
The AMC20 is the rear end, and it could be an AMC20 or a Dana 44 in that
truck.
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Re: 76 CJ5
Check will Bill ------.... he will have links to all the specific
information.
"Carl" <carlsaiyed@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
news:vPKdnQnkGLvpOyvZnZ2dnUVZ_oGdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Thanks, Billy. So the 76 will have the D20 transfer case? How much better
> is the D300 over the D20?
>
>
> Carl
>
>
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:38b52$44b69f75$48311525$20003@FUSE.NET...
>> There was nothing wrong with the AMC 304 that wasn't because of the EPA.
>> The 'huge' drop in horsepower was because of the change in the way they
>> measured it. 150 'new' horsepower was about the same as 180-190 'old'
>> horsepower and the engine is capable of substantial upgrades.
>>
>>
>> http://www.jeeptech.com/engine/amc304.html
>>
>> The 304 used from '72-'78 has the best performance of all the 304s used
>> in the CJ. .
>>
>> AMC 304 V8
>> Bore x Stroke 3.75" x 3.44"
>> Displacement 304(4.98L)
>> Compression Ratio 8.4:1
>> Horsepower (net) 150@4200
>> Torque (net) 245@2500
>> Main Bearings 5
>> Valve Configuration OHV
>> Fuel 2bbl
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> CJ model Information:
>> http://www.earlycj5.com/tech/general...ersGuide.shtml
>>
>> Final AMC (Long 83 inch wheel base) 1976 through 1983
>> Identifying features include:
>> a.. Longer hood and front fenders to accommodate the AMC I-6 engines
>> b.. Engine(s) AMC 232 CID or 258 CID I-6, AMC 304 V-8
>> c.. New stronger, wider frame with longer springs for softer ride
>> d.. Fuel tank and fuel-fill located in rear of the tub
>> e.. Wide windshield frame with built-in door hinges fold-down ***** with
>> wipers mounted on bottom and motor mounted on the inside
>> f.. New floorboard and changed seating bracket design
>> g.. Saginaw steering box (power steering optional)
>> h.. Dana Model 20, after 1979, Dana Model 300 transfer case
>> i.. Dana Model 30 front axle
>> j.. AMC Model 20 2 piece rear axle identified by it's "WWI Round Helmet"
>> style differential cover
>> k.. Three speed transmission T-150, T-18 Four speed transmission
>> optional
>> l.. Laredo and Renegade models had the tailgate deleted, spare tire
>> mounted on rear, models with a tailgate had a swing away tire carrier
>> m.. Levi and Golden Eagle trim levels available
>> n.. Silver Anniversary edition released for 79 only
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:44B68A1F.73FA70E0@sympatico.ca...
>>> CJ's are pretty basic vehicles that are easy to fix. You can get
>>> pre-made harness for them from several companies and the cheap Haynes
>>> manual has excellent wiring diagrams for them. They use a GM harness
>>> for the lights. I changed most of the sockets and connections on mine
>>> by soldering new ones in from a full sized GM van harness some one gave
>>> me.
>>>
>>> They are a lot of fun, they turn on a dime and go like a scalded cat.
>>> The power to weight ratio is pretty good on that small CJ5 - V8 combo,
>>> but even the 6 is a powerhouse.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>
>>> Carl wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'm looking at a 76 CJ5 for real cheap. It's got the AMC 304. It has
>>>> some
>>>> new parts and apparently runs well. The carb has been 'upgraded' to a
>>>> holley
>>>> 2bbl. It will need a starter, exhaust, and a wiring harness. The wiring
>>>> harness is the big ? for me, since I don't know how bad it is.
>>>>
>>>> How can I tell if the t-case is a D300, 20, or 18?
>>>> Did all v-8 CJ's get the AMC20?.
>>>> I know the AMC 304 sucks as far as power/performance, but is it pretty
>>>> reliable? How user serviceable is it?
>>>>
>>>> My previous Jeeps were:
>>>>
>>>> 89 YJ, SOA on 33's. 4cyl, 5spd (rip)
>>>> 99 TJ, stock on 31's. 6cyl, 5spd(rip)
>>>> 89 XJ 2" bb on 30's 6cyl, 5spd(mom's daily driver now!)
>>>> 91 XJ 3.5" RE on 31's, 6cyl AT(rip)
>>>>
>>>> I'm on the hunt for a new Jeep, and am looking at CJ's, YJ's and XJ's.
>>>> I
>>>> like the CJ's, especially the t-case and rear.
>>>>
>>>> I really don't know a lot about CJs, as they are a much different
>>>> animal
>>>> than YJ-XJ-ZJ-TJ-MJ.
>>>>
>>>> I like XJ's because they are comfortable, cheap, and pretty tough. I
>>>> also
>>>> know a decent amount about 'em.
>>>>
>>>> YJ's are the same as XJ's for my likes, except they are not cheap.
>>>>
>>>> Am I getting in over my head here with an old CJ?
>>>>
>>>> Anyone know anyone selling an old XJ-YJ-CJ?
>>>>
>>>> Any help would be great.
>>>>
>>>> Carl
>>
>>
>
>
information.
"Carl" <carlsaiyed@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
news:vPKdnQnkGLvpOyvZnZ2dnUVZ_oGdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Thanks, Billy. So the 76 will have the D20 transfer case? How much better
> is the D300 over the D20?
>
>
> Carl
>
>
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:38b52$44b69f75$48311525$20003@FUSE.NET...
>> There was nothing wrong with the AMC 304 that wasn't because of the EPA.
>> The 'huge' drop in horsepower was because of the change in the way they
>> measured it. 150 'new' horsepower was about the same as 180-190 'old'
>> horsepower and the engine is capable of substantial upgrades.
>>
>>
>> http://www.jeeptech.com/engine/amc304.html
>>
>> The 304 used from '72-'78 has the best performance of all the 304s used
>> in the CJ. .
>>
>> AMC 304 V8
>> Bore x Stroke 3.75" x 3.44"
>> Displacement 304(4.98L)
>> Compression Ratio 8.4:1
>> Horsepower (net) 150@4200
>> Torque (net) 245@2500
>> Main Bearings 5
>> Valve Configuration OHV
>> Fuel 2bbl
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> CJ model Information:
>> http://www.earlycj5.com/tech/general...ersGuide.shtml
>>
>> Final AMC (Long 83 inch wheel base) 1976 through 1983
>> Identifying features include:
>> a.. Longer hood and front fenders to accommodate the AMC I-6 engines
>> b.. Engine(s) AMC 232 CID or 258 CID I-6, AMC 304 V-8
>> c.. New stronger, wider frame with longer springs for softer ride
>> d.. Fuel tank and fuel-fill located in rear of the tub
>> e.. Wide windshield frame with built-in door hinges fold-down ***** with
>> wipers mounted on bottom and motor mounted on the inside
>> f.. New floorboard and changed seating bracket design
>> g.. Saginaw steering box (power steering optional)
>> h.. Dana Model 20, after 1979, Dana Model 300 transfer case
>> i.. Dana Model 30 front axle
>> j.. AMC Model 20 2 piece rear axle identified by it's "WWI Round Helmet"
>> style differential cover
>> k.. Three speed transmission T-150, T-18 Four speed transmission
>> optional
>> l.. Laredo and Renegade models had the tailgate deleted, spare tire
>> mounted on rear, models with a tailgate had a swing away tire carrier
>> m.. Levi and Golden Eagle trim levels available
>> n.. Silver Anniversary edition released for 79 only
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:44B68A1F.73FA70E0@sympatico.ca...
>>> CJ's are pretty basic vehicles that are easy to fix. You can get
>>> pre-made harness for them from several companies and the cheap Haynes
>>> manual has excellent wiring diagrams for them. They use a GM harness
>>> for the lights. I changed most of the sockets and connections on mine
>>> by soldering new ones in from a full sized GM van harness some one gave
>>> me.
>>>
>>> They are a lot of fun, they turn on a dime and go like a scalded cat.
>>> The power to weight ratio is pretty good on that small CJ5 - V8 combo,
>>> but even the 6 is a powerhouse.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>
>>> Carl wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'm looking at a 76 CJ5 for real cheap. It's got the AMC 304. It has
>>>> some
>>>> new parts and apparently runs well. The carb has been 'upgraded' to a
>>>> holley
>>>> 2bbl. It will need a starter, exhaust, and a wiring harness. The wiring
>>>> harness is the big ? for me, since I don't know how bad it is.
>>>>
>>>> How can I tell if the t-case is a D300, 20, or 18?
>>>> Did all v-8 CJ's get the AMC20?.
>>>> I know the AMC 304 sucks as far as power/performance, but is it pretty
>>>> reliable? How user serviceable is it?
>>>>
>>>> My previous Jeeps were:
>>>>
>>>> 89 YJ, SOA on 33's. 4cyl, 5spd (rip)
>>>> 99 TJ, stock on 31's. 6cyl, 5spd(rip)
>>>> 89 XJ 2" bb on 30's 6cyl, 5spd(mom's daily driver now!)
>>>> 91 XJ 3.5" RE on 31's, 6cyl AT(rip)
>>>>
>>>> I'm on the hunt for a new Jeep, and am looking at CJ's, YJ's and XJ's.
>>>> I
>>>> like the CJ's, especially the t-case and rear.
>>>>
>>>> I really don't know a lot about CJs, as they are a much different
>>>> animal
>>>> than YJ-XJ-ZJ-TJ-MJ.
>>>>
>>>> I like XJ's because they are comfortable, cheap, and pretty tough. I
>>>> also
>>>> know a decent amount about 'em.
>>>>
>>>> YJ's are the same as XJ's for my likes, except they are not cheap.
>>>>
>>>> Am I getting in over my head here with an old CJ?
>>>>
>>>> Anyone know anyone selling an old XJ-YJ-CJ?
>>>>
>>>> Any help would be great.
>>>>
>>>> Carl
>>
>>
>
>
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Re: 76 CJ5
Check will Bill ------.... he will have links to all the specific
information.
"Carl" <carlsaiyed@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
news:vPKdnQnkGLvpOyvZnZ2dnUVZ_oGdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Thanks, Billy. So the 76 will have the D20 transfer case? How much better
> is the D300 over the D20?
>
>
> Carl
>
>
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:38b52$44b69f75$48311525$20003@FUSE.NET...
>> There was nothing wrong with the AMC 304 that wasn't because of the EPA.
>> The 'huge' drop in horsepower was because of the change in the way they
>> measured it. 150 'new' horsepower was about the same as 180-190 'old'
>> horsepower and the engine is capable of substantial upgrades.
>>
>>
>> http://www.jeeptech.com/engine/amc304.html
>>
>> The 304 used from '72-'78 has the best performance of all the 304s used
>> in the CJ. .
>>
>> AMC 304 V8
>> Bore x Stroke 3.75" x 3.44"
>> Displacement 304(4.98L)
>> Compression Ratio 8.4:1
>> Horsepower (net) 150@4200
>> Torque (net) 245@2500
>> Main Bearings 5
>> Valve Configuration OHV
>> Fuel 2bbl
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> CJ model Information:
>> http://www.earlycj5.com/tech/general...ersGuide.shtml
>>
>> Final AMC (Long 83 inch wheel base) 1976 through 1983
>> Identifying features include:
>> a.. Longer hood and front fenders to accommodate the AMC I-6 engines
>> b.. Engine(s) AMC 232 CID or 258 CID I-6, AMC 304 V-8
>> c.. New stronger, wider frame with longer springs for softer ride
>> d.. Fuel tank and fuel-fill located in rear of the tub
>> e.. Wide windshield frame with built-in door hinges fold-down ***** with
>> wipers mounted on bottom and motor mounted on the inside
>> f.. New floorboard and changed seating bracket design
>> g.. Saginaw steering box (power steering optional)
>> h.. Dana Model 20, after 1979, Dana Model 300 transfer case
>> i.. Dana Model 30 front axle
>> j.. AMC Model 20 2 piece rear axle identified by it's "WWI Round Helmet"
>> style differential cover
>> k.. Three speed transmission T-150, T-18 Four speed transmission
>> optional
>> l.. Laredo and Renegade models had the tailgate deleted, spare tire
>> mounted on rear, models with a tailgate had a swing away tire carrier
>> m.. Levi and Golden Eagle trim levels available
>> n.. Silver Anniversary edition released for 79 only
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:44B68A1F.73FA70E0@sympatico.ca...
>>> CJ's are pretty basic vehicles that are easy to fix. You can get
>>> pre-made harness for them from several companies and the cheap Haynes
>>> manual has excellent wiring diagrams for them. They use a GM harness
>>> for the lights. I changed most of the sockets and connections on mine
>>> by soldering new ones in from a full sized GM van harness some one gave
>>> me.
>>>
>>> They are a lot of fun, they turn on a dime and go like a scalded cat.
>>> The power to weight ratio is pretty good on that small CJ5 - V8 combo,
>>> but even the 6 is a powerhouse.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>
>>> Carl wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'm looking at a 76 CJ5 for real cheap. It's got the AMC 304. It has
>>>> some
>>>> new parts and apparently runs well. The carb has been 'upgraded' to a
>>>> holley
>>>> 2bbl. It will need a starter, exhaust, and a wiring harness. The wiring
>>>> harness is the big ? for me, since I don't know how bad it is.
>>>>
>>>> How can I tell if the t-case is a D300, 20, or 18?
>>>> Did all v-8 CJ's get the AMC20?.
>>>> I know the AMC 304 sucks as far as power/performance, but is it pretty
>>>> reliable? How user serviceable is it?
>>>>
>>>> My previous Jeeps were:
>>>>
>>>> 89 YJ, SOA on 33's. 4cyl, 5spd (rip)
>>>> 99 TJ, stock on 31's. 6cyl, 5spd(rip)
>>>> 89 XJ 2" bb on 30's 6cyl, 5spd(mom's daily driver now!)
>>>> 91 XJ 3.5" RE on 31's, 6cyl AT(rip)
>>>>
>>>> I'm on the hunt for a new Jeep, and am looking at CJ's, YJ's and XJ's.
>>>> I
>>>> like the CJ's, especially the t-case and rear.
>>>>
>>>> I really don't know a lot about CJs, as they are a much different
>>>> animal
>>>> than YJ-XJ-ZJ-TJ-MJ.
>>>>
>>>> I like XJ's because they are comfortable, cheap, and pretty tough. I
>>>> also
>>>> know a decent amount about 'em.
>>>>
>>>> YJ's are the same as XJ's for my likes, except they are not cheap.
>>>>
>>>> Am I getting in over my head here with an old CJ?
>>>>
>>>> Anyone know anyone selling an old XJ-YJ-CJ?
>>>>
>>>> Any help would be great.
>>>>
>>>> Carl
>>
>>
>
>
information.
"Carl" <carlsaiyed@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
news:vPKdnQnkGLvpOyvZnZ2dnUVZ_oGdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Thanks, Billy. So the 76 will have the D20 transfer case? How much better
> is the D300 over the D20?
>
>
> Carl
>
>
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:38b52$44b69f75$48311525$20003@FUSE.NET...
>> There was nothing wrong with the AMC 304 that wasn't because of the EPA.
>> The 'huge' drop in horsepower was because of the change in the way they
>> measured it. 150 'new' horsepower was about the same as 180-190 'old'
>> horsepower and the engine is capable of substantial upgrades.
>>
>>
>> http://www.jeeptech.com/engine/amc304.html
>>
>> The 304 used from '72-'78 has the best performance of all the 304s used
>> in the CJ. .
>>
>> AMC 304 V8
>> Bore x Stroke 3.75" x 3.44"
>> Displacement 304(4.98L)
>> Compression Ratio 8.4:1
>> Horsepower (net) 150@4200
>> Torque (net) 245@2500
>> Main Bearings 5
>> Valve Configuration OHV
>> Fuel 2bbl
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> CJ model Information:
>> http://www.earlycj5.com/tech/general...ersGuide.shtml
>>
>> Final AMC (Long 83 inch wheel base) 1976 through 1983
>> Identifying features include:
>> a.. Longer hood and front fenders to accommodate the AMC I-6 engines
>> b.. Engine(s) AMC 232 CID or 258 CID I-6, AMC 304 V-8
>> c.. New stronger, wider frame with longer springs for softer ride
>> d.. Fuel tank and fuel-fill located in rear of the tub
>> e.. Wide windshield frame with built-in door hinges fold-down ***** with
>> wipers mounted on bottom and motor mounted on the inside
>> f.. New floorboard and changed seating bracket design
>> g.. Saginaw steering box (power steering optional)
>> h.. Dana Model 20, after 1979, Dana Model 300 transfer case
>> i.. Dana Model 30 front axle
>> j.. AMC Model 20 2 piece rear axle identified by it's "WWI Round Helmet"
>> style differential cover
>> k.. Three speed transmission T-150, T-18 Four speed transmission
>> optional
>> l.. Laredo and Renegade models had the tailgate deleted, spare tire
>> mounted on rear, models with a tailgate had a swing away tire carrier
>> m.. Levi and Golden Eagle trim levels available
>> n.. Silver Anniversary edition released for 79 only
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:44B68A1F.73FA70E0@sympatico.ca...
>>> CJ's are pretty basic vehicles that are easy to fix. You can get
>>> pre-made harness for them from several companies and the cheap Haynes
>>> manual has excellent wiring diagrams for them. They use a GM harness
>>> for the lights. I changed most of the sockets and connections on mine
>>> by soldering new ones in from a full sized GM van harness some one gave
>>> me.
>>>
>>> They are a lot of fun, they turn on a dime and go like a scalded cat.
>>> The power to weight ratio is pretty good on that small CJ5 - V8 combo,
>>> but even the 6 is a powerhouse.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>
>>> Carl wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'm looking at a 76 CJ5 for real cheap. It's got the AMC 304. It has
>>>> some
>>>> new parts and apparently runs well. The carb has been 'upgraded' to a
>>>> holley
>>>> 2bbl. It will need a starter, exhaust, and a wiring harness. The wiring
>>>> harness is the big ? for me, since I don't know how bad it is.
>>>>
>>>> How can I tell if the t-case is a D300, 20, or 18?
>>>> Did all v-8 CJ's get the AMC20?.
>>>> I know the AMC 304 sucks as far as power/performance, but is it pretty
>>>> reliable? How user serviceable is it?
>>>>
>>>> My previous Jeeps were:
>>>>
>>>> 89 YJ, SOA on 33's. 4cyl, 5spd (rip)
>>>> 99 TJ, stock on 31's. 6cyl, 5spd(rip)
>>>> 89 XJ 2" bb on 30's 6cyl, 5spd(mom's daily driver now!)
>>>> 91 XJ 3.5" RE on 31's, 6cyl AT(rip)
>>>>
>>>> I'm on the hunt for a new Jeep, and am looking at CJ's, YJ's and XJ's.
>>>> I
>>>> like the CJ's, especially the t-case and rear.
>>>>
>>>> I really don't know a lot about CJs, as they are a much different
>>>> animal
>>>> than YJ-XJ-ZJ-TJ-MJ.
>>>>
>>>> I like XJ's because they are comfortable, cheap, and pretty tough. I
>>>> also
>>>> know a decent amount about 'em.
>>>>
>>>> YJ's are the same as XJ's for my likes, except they are not cheap.
>>>>
>>>> Am I getting in over my head here with an old CJ?
>>>>
>>>> Anyone know anyone selling an old XJ-YJ-CJ?
>>>>
>>>> Any help would be great.
>>>>
>>>> Carl
>>
>>
>
>
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Re: 76 CJ5
Check will Bill ------.... he will have links to all the specific
information.
"Carl" <carlsaiyed@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
news:vPKdnQnkGLvpOyvZnZ2dnUVZ_oGdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Thanks, Billy. So the 76 will have the D20 transfer case? How much better
> is the D300 over the D20?
>
>
> Carl
>
>
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:38b52$44b69f75$48311525$20003@FUSE.NET...
>> There was nothing wrong with the AMC 304 that wasn't because of the EPA.
>> The 'huge' drop in horsepower was because of the change in the way they
>> measured it. 150 'new' horsepower was about the same as 180-190 'old'
>> horsepower and the engine is capable of substantial upgrades.
>>
>>
>> http://www.jeeptech.com/engine/amc304.html
>>
>> The 304 used from '72-'78 has the best performance of all the 304s used
>> in the CJ. .
>>
>> AMC 304 V8
>> Bore x Stroke 3.75" x 3.44"
>> Displacement 304(4.98L)
>> Compression Ratio 8.4:1
>> Horsepower (net) 150@4200
>> Torque (net) 245@2500
>> Main Bearings 5
>> Valve Configuration OHV
>> Fuel 2bbl
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> CJ model Information:
>> http://www.earlycj5.com/tech/general...ersGuide.shtml
>>
>> Final AMC (Long 83 inch wheel base) 1976 through 1983
>> Identifying features include:
>> a.. Longer hood and front fenders to accommodate the AMC I-6 engines
>> b.. Engine(s) AMC 232 CID or 258 CID I-6, AMC 304 V-8
>> c.. New stronger, wider frame with longer springs for softer ride
>> d.. Fuel tank and fuel-fill located in rear of the tub
>> e.. Wide windshield frame with built-in door hinges fold-down ***** with
>> wipers mounted on bottom and motor mounted on the inside
>> f.. New floorboard and changed seating bracket design
>> g.. Saginaw steering box (power steering optional)
>> h.. Dana Model 20, after 1979, Dana Model 300 transfer case
>> i.. Dana Model 30 front axle
>> j.. AMC Model 20 2 piece rear axle identified by it's "WWI Round Helmet"
>> style differential cover
>> k.. Three speed transmission T-150, T-18 Four speed transmission
>> optional
>> l.. Laredo and Renegade models had the tailgate deleted, spare tire
>> mounted on rear, models with a tailgate had a swing away tire carrier
>> m.. Levi and Golden Eagle trim levels available
>> n.. Silver Anniversary edition released for 79 only
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:44B68A1F.73FA70E0@sympatico.ca...
>>> CJ's are pretty basic vehicles that are easy to fix. You can get
>>> pre-made harness for them from several companies and the cheap Haynes
>>> manual has excellent wiring diagrams for them. They use a GM harness
>>> for the lights. I changed most of the sockets and connections on mine
>>> by soldering new ones in from a full sized GM van harness some one gave
>>> me.
>>>
>>> They are a lot of fun, they turn on a dime and go like a scalded cat.
>>> The power to weight ratio is pretty good on that small CJ5 - V8 combo,
>>> but even the 6 is a powerhouse.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>
>>> Carl wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'm looking at a 76 CJ5 for real cheap. It's got the AMC 304. It has
>>>> some
>>>> new parts and apparently runs well. The carb has been 'upgraded' to a
>>>> holley
>>>> 2bbl. It will need a starter, exhaust, and a wiring harness. The wiring
>>>> harness is the big ? for me, since I don't know how bad it is.
>>>>
>>>> How can I tell if the t-case is a D300, 20, or 18?
>>>> Did all v-8 CJ's get the AMC20?.
>>>> I know the AMC 304 sucks as far as power/performance, but is it pretty
>>>> reliable? How user serviceable is it?
>>>>
>>>> My previous Jeeps were:
>>>>
>>>> 89 YJ, SOA on 33's. 4cyl, 5spd (rip)
>>>> 99 TJ, stock on 31's. 6cyl, 5spd(rip)
>>>> 89 XJ 2" bb on 30's 6cyl, 5spd(mom's daily driver now!)
>>>> 91 XJ 3.5" RE on 31's, 6cyl AT(rip)
>>>>
>>>> I'm on the hunt for a new Jeep, and am looking at CJ's, YJ's and XJ's.
>>>> I
>>>> like the CJ's, especially the t-case and rear.
>>>>
>>>> I really don't know a lot about CJs, as they are a much different
>>>> animal
>>>> than YJ-XJ-ZJ-TJ-MJ.
>>>>
>>>> I like XJ's because they are comfortable, cheap, and pretty tough. I
>>>> also
>>>> know a decent amount about 'em.
>>>>
>>>> YJ's are the same as XJ's for my likes, except they are not cheap.
>>>>
>>>> Am I getting in over my head here with an old CJ?
>>>>
>>>> Anyone know anyone selling an old XJ-YJ-CJ?
>>>>
>>>> Any help would be great.
>>>>
>>>> Carl
>>
>>
>
>
information.
"Carl" <carlsaiyed@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
news:vPKdnQnkGLvpOyvZnZ2dnUVZ_oGdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Thanks, Billy. So the 76 will have the D20 transfer case? How much better
> is the D300 over the D20?
>
>
> Carl
>
>
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:38b52$44b69f75$48311525$20003@FUSE.NET...
>> There was nothing wrong with the AMC 304 that wasn't because of the EPA.
>> The 'huge' drop in horsepower was because of the change in the way they
>> measured it. 150 'new' horsepower was about the same as 180-190 'old'
>> horsepower and the engine is capable of substantial upgrades.
>>
>>
>> http://www.jeeptech.com/engine/amc304.html
>>
>> The 304 used from '72-'78 has the best performance of all the 304s used
>> in the CJ. .
>>
>> AMC 304 V8
>> Bore x Stroke 3.75" x 3.44"
>> Displacement 304(4.98L)
>> Compression Ratio 8.4:1
>> Horsepower (net) 150@4200
>> Torque (net) 245@2500
>> Main Bearings 5
>> Valve Configuration OHV
>> Fuel 2bbl
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> CJ model Information:
>> http://www.earlycj5.com/tech/general...ersGuide.shtml
>>
>> Final AMC (Long 83 inch wheel base) 1976 through 1983
>> Identifying features include:
>> a.. Longer hood and front fenders to accommodate the AMC I-6 engines
>> b.. Engine(s) AMC 232 CID or 258 CID I-6, AMC 304 V-8
>> c.. New stronger, wider frame with longer springs for softer ride
>> d.. Fuel tank and fuel-fill located in rear of the tub
>> e.. Wide windshield frame with built-in door hinges fold-down ***** with
>> wipers mounted on bottom and motor mounted on the inside
>> f.. New floorboard and changed seating bracket design
>> g.. Saginaw steering box (power steering optional)
>> h.. Dana Model 20, after 1979, Dana Model 300 transfer case
>> i.. Dana Model 30 front axle
>> j.. AMC Model 20 2 piece rear axle identified by it's "WWI Round Helmet"
>> style differential cover
>> k.. Three speed transmission T-150, T-18 Four speed transmission
>> optional
>> l.. Laredo and Renegade models had the tailgate deleted, spare tire
>> mounted on rear, models with a tailgate had a swing away tire carrier
>> m.. Levi and Golden Eagle trim levels available
>> n.. Silver Anniversary edition released for 79 only
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:44B68A1F.73FA70E0@sympatico.ca...
>>> CJ's are pretty basic vehicles that are easy to fix. You can get
>>> pre-made harness for them from several companies and the cheap Haynes
>>> manual has excellent wiring diagrams for them. They use a GM harness
>>> for the lights. I changed most of the sockets and connections on mine
>>> by soldering new ones in from a full sized GM van harness some one gave
>>> me.
>>>
>>> They are a lot of fun, they turn on a dime and go like a scalded cat.
>>> The power to weight ratio is pretty good on that small CJ5 - V8 combo,
>>> but even the 6 is a powerhouse.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>
>>> Carl wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'm looking at a 76 CJ5 for real cheap. It's got the AMC 304. It has
>>>> some
>>>> new parts and apparently runs well. The carb has been 'upgraded' to a
>>>> holley
>>>> 2bbl. It will need a starter, exhaust, and a wiring harness. The wiring
>>>> harness is the big ? for me, since I don't know how bad it is.
>>>>
>>>> How can I tell if the t-case is a D300, 20, or 18?
>>>> Did all v-8 CJ's get the AMC20?.
>>>> I know the AMC 304 sucks as far as power/performance, but is it pretty
>>>> reliable? How user serviceable is it?
>>>>
>>>> My previous Jeeps were:
>>>>
>>>> 89 YJ, SOA on 33's. 4cyl, 5spd (rip)
>>>> 99 TJ, stock on 31's. 6cyl, 5spd(rip)
>>>> 89 XJ 2" bb on 30's 6cyl, 5spd(mom's daily driver now!)
>>>> 91 XJ 3.5" RE on 31's, 6cyl AT(rip)
>>>>
>>>> I'm on the hunt for a new Jeep, and am looking at CJ's, YJ's and XJ's.
>>>> I
>>>> like the CJ's, especially the t-case and rear.
>>>>
>>>> I really don't know a lot about CJs, as they are a much different
>>>> animal
>>>> than YJ-XJ-ZJ-TJ-MJ.
>>>>
>>>> I like XJ's because they are comfortable, cheap, and pretty tough. I
>>>> also
>>>> know a decent amount about 'em.
>>>>
>>>> YJ's are the same as XJ's for my likes, except they are not cheap.
>>>>
>>>> Am I getting in over my head here with an old CJ?
>>>>
>>>> Anyone know anyone selling an old XJ-YJ-CJ?
>>>>
>>>> Any help would be great.
>>>>
>>>> Carl
>>
>>
>
>
#26
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 76 CJ5
I think that '76 was the first year of the D300 Tcase. It should have the
AMC20 as the std rear end, or the D44 as the optional upgrade -- where
upgrade is debatable. There are many that will suggest that the AMC20 is as
strong as the D44 after a few simple mods are applied.
"Carl" <carlsaiyed@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
news:vPKdnQnkGLvpOyvZnZ2dnUVZ_oGdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Thanks, Billy. So the 76 will have the D20 transfer case? How much better
> is the D300 over the D20?
>
>
> Carl
>
>
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:38b52$44b69f75$48311525$20003@FUSE.NET...
>> There was nothing wrong with the AMC 304 that wasn't because of the EPA.
>> The 'huge' drop in horsepower was because of the change in the way they
>> measured it. 150 'new' horsepower was about the same as 180-190 'old'
>> horsepower and the engine is capable of substantial upgrades.
>>
>>
>> http://www.jeeptech.com/engine/amc304.html
>>
>> The 304 used from '72-'78 has the best performance of all the 304s used
>> in the CJ. .
>>
>> AMC 304 V8
>> Bore x Stroke 3.75" x 3.44"
>> Displacement 304(4.98L)
>> Compression Ratio 8.4:1
>> Horsepower (net) 150@4200
>> Torque (net) 245@2500
>> Main Bearings 5
>> Valve Configuration OHV
>> Fuel 2bbl
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> CJ model Information:
>> http://www.earlycj5.com/tech/general...ersGuide.shtml
>>
>> Final AMC (Long 83 inch wheel base) 1976 through 1983
>> Identifying features include:
>> a.. Longer hood and front fenders to accommodate the AMC I-6 engines
>> b.. Engine(s) AMC 232 CID or 258 CID I-6, AMC 304 V-8
>> c.. New stronger, wider frame with longer springs for softer ride
>> d.. Fuel tank and fuel-fill located in rear of the tub
>> e.. Wide windshield frame with built-in door hinges fold-down ***** with
>> wipers mounted on bottom and motor mounted on the inside
>> f.. New floorboard and changed seating bracket design
>> g.. Saginaw steering box (power steering optional)
>> h.. Dana Model 20, after 1979, Dana Model 300 transfer case
>> i.. Dana Model 30 front axle
>> j.. AMC Model 20 2 piece rear axle identified by it's "WWI Round Helmet"
>> style differential cover
>> k.. Three speed transmission T-150, T-18 Four speed transmission
>> optional
>> l.. Laredo and Renegade models had the tailgate deleted, spare tire
>> mounted on rear, models with a tailgate had a swing away tire carrier
>> m.. Levi and Golden Eagle trim levels available
>> n.. Silver Anniversary edition released for 79 only
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:44B68A1F.73FA70E0@sympatico.ca...
>>> CJ's are pretty basic vehicles that are easy to fix. You can get
>>> pre-made harness for them from several companies and the cheap Haynes
>>> manual has excellent wiring diagrams for them. They use a GM harness
>>> for the lights. I changed most of the sockets and connections on mine
>>> by soldering new ones in from a full sized GM van harness some one gave
>>> me.
>>>
>>> They are a lot of fun, they turn on a dime and go like a scalded cat.
>>> The power to weight ratio is pretty good on that small CJ5 - V8 combo,
>>> but even the 6 is a powerhouse.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>
>>> Carl wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'm looking at a 76 CJ5 for real cheap. It's got the AMC 304. It has
>>>> some
>>>> new parts and apparently runs well. The carb has been 'upgraded' to a
>>>> holley
>>>> 2bbl. It will need a starter, exhaust, and a wiring harness. The wiring
>>>> harness is the big ? for me, since I don't know how bad it is.
>>>>
>>>> How can I tell if the t-case is a D300, 20, or 18?
>>>> Did all v-8 CJ's get the AMC20?.
>>>> I know the AMC 304 sucks as far as power/performance, but is it pretty
>>>> reliable? How user serviceable is it?
>>>>
>>>> My previous Jeeps were:
>>>>
>>>> 89 YJ, SOA on 33's. 4cyl, 5spd (rip)
>>>> 99 TJ, stock on 31's. 6cyl, 5spd(rip)
>>>> 89 XJ 2" bb on 30's 6cyl, 5spd(mom's daily driver now!)
>>>> 91 XJ 3.5" RE on 31's, 6cyl AT(rip)
>>>>
>>>> I'm on the hunt for a new Jeep, and am looking at CJ's, YJ's and XJ's.
>>>> I
>>>> like the CJ's, especially the t-case and rear.
>>>>
>>>> I really don't know a lot about CJs, as they are a much different
>>>> animal
>>>> than YJ-XJ-ZJ-TJ-MJ.
>>>>
>>>> I like XJ's because they are comfortable, cheap, and pretty tough. I
>>>> also
>>>> know a decent amount about 'em.
>>>>
>>>> YJ's are the same as XJ's for my likes, except they are not cheap.
>>>>
>>>> Am I getting in over my head here with an old CJ?
>>>>
>>>> Anyone know anyone selling an old XJ-YJ-CJ?
>>>>
>>>> Any help would be great.
>>>>
>>>> Carl
>>
>>
>
>
AMC20 as the std rear end, or the D44 as the optional upgrade -- where
upgrade is debatable. There are many that will suggest that the AMC20 is as
strong as the D44 after a few simple mods are applied.
"Carl" <carlsaiyed@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
news:vPKdnQnkGLvpOyvZnZ2dnUVZ_oGdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Thanks, Billy. So the 76 will have the D20 transfer case? How much better
> is the D300 over the D20?
>
>
> Carl
>
>
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:38b52$44b69f75$48311525$20003@FUSE.NET...
>> There was nothing wrong with the AMC 304 that wasn't because of the EPA.
>> The 'huge' drop in horsepower was because of the change in the way they
>> measured it. 150 'new' horsepower was about the same as 180-190 'old'
>> horsepower and the engine is capable of substantial upgrades.
>>
>>
>> http://www.jeeptech.com/engine/amc304.html
>>
>> The 304 used from '72-'78 has the best performance of all the 304s used
>> in the CJ. .
>>
>> AMC 304 V8
>> Bore x Stroke 3.75" x 3.44"
>> Displacement 304(4.98L)
>> Compression Ratio 8.4:1
>> Horsepower (net) 150@4200
>> Torque (net) 245@2500
>> Main Bearings 5
>> Valve Configuration OHV
>> Fuel 2bbl
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> CJ model Information:
>> http://www.earlycj5.com/tech/general...ersGuide.shtml
>>
>> Final AMC (Long 83 inch wheel base) 1976 through 1983
>> Identifying features include:
>> a.. Longer hood and front fenders to accommodate the AMC I-6 engines
>> b.. Engine(s) AMC 232 CID or 258 CID I-6, AMC 304 V-8
>> c.. New stronger, wider frame with longer springs for softer ride
>> d.. Fuel tank and fuel-fill located in rear of the tub
>> e.. Wide windshield frame with built-in door hinges fold-down ***** with
>> wipers mounted on bottom and motor mounted on the inside
>> f.. New floorboard and changed seating bracket design
>> g.. Saginaw steering box (power steering optional)
>> h.. Dana Model 20, after 1979, Dana Model 300 transfer case
>> i.. Dana Model 30 front axle
>> j.. AMC Model 20 2 piece rear axle identified by it's "WWI Round Helmet"
>> style differential cover
>> k.. Three speed transmission T-150, T-18 Four speed transmission
>> optional
>> l.. Laredo and Renegade models had the tailgate deleted, spare tire
>> mounted on rear, models with a tailgate had a swing away tire carrier
>> m.. Levi and Golden Eagle trim levels available
>> n.. Silver Anniversary edition released for 79 only
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:44B68A1F.73FA70E0@sympatico.ca...
>>> CJ's are pretty basic vehicles that are easy to fix. You can get
>>> pre-made harness for them from several companies and the cheap Haynes
>>> manual has excellent wiring diagrams for them. They use a GM harness
>>> for the lights. I changed most of the sockets and connections on mine
>>> by soldering new ones in from a full sized GM van harness some one gave
>>> me.
>>>
>>> They are a lot of fun, they turn on a dime and go like a scalded cat.
>>> The power to weight ratio is pretty good on that small CJ5 - V8 combo,
>>> but even the 6 is a powerhouse.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>
>>> Carl wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'm looking at a 76 CJ5 for real cheap. It's got the AMC 304. It has
>>>> some
>>>> new parts and apparently runs well. The carb has been 'upgraded' to a
>>>> holley
>>>> 2bbl. It will need a starter, exhaust, and a wiring harness. The wiring
>>>> harness is the big ? for me, since I don't know how bad it is.
>>>>
>>>> How can I tell if the t-case is a D300, 20, or 18?
>>>> Did all v-8 CJ's get the AMC20?.
>>>> I know the AMC 304 sucks as far as power/performance, but is it pretty
>>>> reliable? How user serviceable is it?
>>>>
>>>> My previous Jeeps were:
>>>>
>>>> 89 YJ, SOA on 33's. 4cyl, 5spd (rip)
>>>> 99 TJ, stock on 31's. 6cyl, 5spd(rip)
>>>> 89 XJ 2" bb on 30's 6cyl, 5spd(mom's daily driver now!)
>>>> 91 XJ 3.5" RE on 31's, 6cyl AT(rip)
>>>>
>>>> I'm on the hunt for a new Jeep, and am looking at CJ's, YJ's and XJ's.
>>>> I
>>>> like the CJ's, especially the t-case and rear.
>>>>
>>>> I really don't know a lot about CJs, as they are a much different
>>>> animal
>>>> than YJ-XJ-ZJ-TJ-MJ.
>>>>
>>>> I like XJ's because they are comfortable, cheap, and pretty tough. I
>>>> also
>>>> know a decent amount about 'em.
>>>>
>>>> YJ's are the same as XJ's for my likes, except they are not cheap.
>>>>
>>>> Am I getting in over my head here with an old CJ?
>>>>
>>>> Anyone know anyone selling an old XJ-YJ-CJ?
>>>>
>>>> Any help would be great.
>>>>
>>>> Carl
>>
>>
>
>
#27
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 76 CJ5
I think that '76 was the first year of the D300 Tcase. It should have the
AMC20 as the std rear end, or the D44 as the optional upgrade -- where
upgrade is debatable. There are many that will suggest that the AMC20 is as
strong as the D44 after a few simple mods are applied.
"Carl" <carlsaiyed@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
news:vPKdnQnkGLvpOyvZnZ2dnUVZ_oGdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Thanks, Billy. So the 76 will have the D20 transfer case? How much better
> is the D300 over the D20?
>
>
> Carl
>
>
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:38b52$44b69f75$48311525$20003@FUSE.NET...
>> There was nothing wrong with the AMC 304 that wasn't because of the EPA.
>> The 'huge' drop in horsepower was because of the change in the way they
>> measured it. 150 'new' horsepower was about the same as 180-190 'old'
>> horsepower and the engine is capable of substantial upgrades.
>>
>>
>> http://www.jeeptech.com/engine/amc304.html
>>
>> The 304 used from '72-'78 has the best performance of all the 304s used
>> in the CJ. .
>>
>> AMC 304 V8
>> Bore x Stroke 3.75" x 3.44"
>> Displacement 304(4.98L)
>> Compression Ratio 8.4:1
>> Horsepower (net) 150@4200
>> Torque (net) 245@2500
>> Main Bearings 5
>> Valve Configuration OHV
>> Fuel 2bbl
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> CJ model Information:
>> http://www.earlycj5.com/tech/general...ersGuide.shtml
>>
>> Final AMC (Long 83 inch wheel base) 1976 through 1983
>> Identifying features include:
>> a.. Longer hood and front fenders to accommodate the AMC I-6 engines
>> b.. Engine(s) AMC 232 CID or 258 CID I-6, AMC 304 V-8
>> c.. New stronger, wider frame with longer springs for softer ride
>> d.. Fuel tank and fuel-fill located in rear of the tub
>> e.. Wide windshield frame with built-in door hinges fold-down ***** with
>> wipers mounted on bottom and motor mounted on the inside
>> f.. New floorboard and changed seating bracket design
>> g.. Saginaw steering box (power steering optional)
>> h.. Dana Model 20, after 1979, Dana Model 300 transfer case
>> i.. Dana Model 30 front axle
>> j.. AMC Model 20 2 piece rear axle identified by it's "WWI Round Helmet"
>> style differential cover
>> k.. Three speed transmission T-150, T-18 Four speed transmission
>> optional
>> l.. Laredo and Renegade models had the tailgate deleted, spare tire
>> mounted on rear, models with a tailgate had a swing away tire carrier
>> m.. Levi and Golden Eagle trim levels available
>> n.. Silver Anniversary edition released for 79 only
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:44B68A1F.73FA70E0@sympatico.ca...
>>> CJ's are pretty basic vehicles that are easy to fix. You can get
>>> pre-made harness for them from several companies and the cheap Haynes
>>> manual has excellent wiring diagrams for them. They use a GM harness
>>> for the lights. I changed most of the sockets and connections on mine
>>> by soldering new ones in from a full sized GM van harness some one gave
>>> me.
>>>
>>> They are a lot of fun, they turn on a dime and go like a scalded cat.
>>> The power to weight ratio is pretty good on that small CJ5 - V8 combo,
>>> but even the 6 is a powerhouse.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>
>>> Carl wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'm looking at a 76 CJ5 for real cheap. It's got the AMC 304. It has
>>>> some
>>>> new parts and apparently runs well. The carb has been 'upgraded' to a
>>>> holley
>>>> 2bbl. It will need a starter, exhaust, and a wiring harness. The wiring
>>>> harness is the big ? for me, since I don't know how bad it is.
>>>>
>>>> How can I tell if the t-case is a D300, 20, or 18?
>>>> Did all v-8 CJ's get the AMC20?.
>>>> I know the AMC 304 sucks as far as power/performance, but is it pretty
>>>> reliable? How user serviceable is it?
>>>>
>>>> My previous Jeeps were:
>>>>
>>>> 89 YJ, SOA on 33's. 4cyl, 5spd (rip)
>>>> 99 TJ, stock on 31's. 6cyl, 5spd(rip)
>>>> 89 XJ 2" bb on 30's 6cyl, 5spd(mom's daily driver now!)
>>>> 91 XJ 3.5" RE on 31's, 6cyl AT(rip)
>>>>
>>>> I'm on the hunt for a new Jeep, and am looking at CJ's, YJ's and XJ's.
>>>> I
>>>> like the CJ's, especially the t-case and rear.
>>>>
>>>> I really don't know a lot about CJs, as they are a much different
>>>> animal
>>>> than YJ-XJ-ZJ-TJ-MJ.
>>>>
>>>> I like XJ's because they are comfortable, cheap, and pretty tough. I
>>>> also
>>>> know a decent amount about 'em.
>>>>
>>>> YJ's are the same as XJ's for my likes, except they are not cheap.
>>>>
>>>> Am I getting in over my head here with an old CJ?
>>>>
>>>> Anyone know anyone selling an old XJ-YJ-CJ?
>>>>
>>>> Any help would be great.
>>>>
>>>> Carl
>>
>>
>
>
AMC20 as the std rear end, or the D44 as the optional upgrade -- where
upgrade is debatable. There are many that will suggest that the AMC20 is as
strong as the D44 after a few simple mods are applied.
"Carl" <carlsaiyed@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
news:vPKdnQnkGLvpOyvZnZ2dnUVZ_oGdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Thanks, Billy. So the 76 will have the D20 transfer case? How much better
> is the D300 over the D20?
>
>
> Carl
>
>
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:38b52$44b69f75$48311525$20003@FUSE.NET...
>> There was nothing wrong with the AMC 304 that wasn't because of the EPA.
>> The 'huge' drop in horsepower was because of the change in the way they
>> measured it. 150 'new' horsepower was about the same as 180-190 'old'
>> horsepower and the engine is capable of substantial upgrades.
>>
>>
>> http://www.jeeptech.com/engine/amc304.html
>>
>> The 304 used from '72-'78 has the best performance of all the 304s used
>> in the CJ. .
>>
>> AMC 304 V8
>> Bore x Stroke 3.75" x 3.44"
>> Displacement 304(4.98L)
>> Compression Ratio 8.4:1
>> Horsepower (net) 150@4200
>> Torque (net) 245@2500
>> Main Bearings 5
>> Valve Configuration OHV
>> Fuel 2bbl
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> CJ model Information:
>> http://www.earlycj5.com/tech/general...ersGuide.shtml
>>
>> Final AMC (Long 83 inch wheel base) 1976 through 1983
>> Identifying features include:
>> a.. Longer hood and front fenders to accommodate the AMC I-6 engines
>> b.. Engine(s) AMC 232 CID or 258 CID I-6, AMC 304 V-8
>> c.. New stronger, wider frame with longer springs for softer ride
>> d.. Fuel tank and fuel-fill located in rear of the tub
>> e.. Wide windshield frame with built-in door hinges fold-down ***** with
>> wipers mounted on bottom and motor mounted on the inside
>> f.. New floorboard and changed seating bracket design
>> g.. Saginaw steering box (power steering optional)
>> h.. Dana Model 20, after 1979, Dana Model 300 transfer case
>> i.. Dana Model 30 front axle
>> j.. AMC Model 20 2 piece rear axle identified by it's "WWI Round Helmet"
>> style differential cover
>> k.. Three speed transmission T-150, T-18 Four speed transmission
>> optional
>> l.. Laredo and Renegade models had the tailgate deleted, spare tire
>> mounted on rear, models with a tailgate had a swing away tire carrier
>> m.. Levi and Golden Eagle trim levels available
>> n.. Silver Anniversary edition released for 79 only
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:44B68A1F.73FA70E0@sympatico.ca...
>>> CJ's are pretty basic vehicles that are easy to fix. You can get
>>> pre-made harness for them from several companies and the cheap Haynes
>>> manual has excellent wiring diagrams for them. They use a GM harness
>>> for the lights. I changed most of the sockets and connections on mine
>>> by soldering new ones in from a full sized GM van harness some one gave
>>> me.
>>>
>>> They are a lot of fun, they turn on a dime and go like a scalded cat.
>>> The power to weight ratio is pretty good on that small CJ5 - V8 combo,
>>> but even the 6 is a powerhouse.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>
>>> Carl wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'm looking at a 76 CJ5 for real cheap. It's got the AMC 304. It has
>>>> some
>>>> new parts and apparently runs well. The carb has been 'upgraded' to a
>>>> holley
>>>> 2bbl. It will need a starter, exhaust, and a wiring harness. The wiring
>>>> harness is the big ? for me, since I don't know how bad it is.
>>>>
>>>> How can I tell if the t-case is a D300, 20, or 18?
>>>> Did all v-8 CJ's get the AMC20?.
>>>> I know the AMC 304 sucks as far as power/performance, but is it pretty
>>>> reliable? How user serviceable is it?
>>>>
>>>> My previous Jeeps were:
>>>>
>>>> 89 YJ, SOA on 33's. 4cyl, 5spd (rip)
>>>> 99 TJ, stock on 31's. 6cyl, 5spd(rip)
>>>> 89 XJ 2" bb on 30's 6cyl, 5spd(mom's daily driver now!)
>>>> 91 XJ 3.5" RE on 31's, 6cyl AT(rip)
>>>>
>>>> I'm on the hunt for a new Jeep, and am looking at CJ's, YJ's and XJ's.
>>>> I
>>>> like the CJ's, especially the t-case and rear.
>>>>
>>>> I really don't know a lot about CJs, as they are a much different
>>>> animal
>>>> than YJ-XJ-ZJ-TJ-MJ.
>>>>
>>>> I like XJ's because they are comfortable, cheap, and pretty tough. I
>>>> also
>>>> know a decent amount about 'em.
>>>>
>>>> YJ's are the same as XJ's for my likes, except they are not cheap.
>>>>
>>>> Am I getting in over my head here with an old CJ?
>>>>
>>>> Anyone know anyone selling an old XJ-YJ-CJ?
>>>>
>>>> Any help would be great.
>>>>
>>>> Carl
>>
>>
>
>
#28
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Posts: n/a
Re: 76 CJ5
I think that '76 was the first year of the D300 Tcase. It should have the
AMC20 as the std rear end, or the D44 as the optional upgrade -- where
upgrade is debatable. There are many that will suggest that the AMC20 is as
strong as the D44 after a few simple mods are applied.
"Carl" <carlsaiyed@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
news:vPKdnQnkGLvpOyvZnZ2dnUVZ_oGdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Thanks, Billy. So the 76 will have the D20 transfer case? How much better
> is the D300 over the D20?
>
>
> Carl
>
>
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:38b52$44b69f75$48311525$20003@FUSE.NET...
>> There was nothing wrong with the AMC 304 that wasn't because of the EPA.
>> The 'huge' drop in horsepower was because of the change in the way they
>> measured it. 150 'new' horsepower was about the same as 180-190 'old'
>> horsepower and the engine is capable of substantial upgrades.
>>
>>
>> http://www.jeeptech.com/engine/amc304.html
>>
>> The 304 used from '72-'78 has the best performance of all the 304s used
>> in the CJ. .
>>
>> AMC 304 V8
>> Bore x Stroke 3.75" x 3.44"
>> Displacement 304(4.98L)
>> Compression Ratio 8.4:1
>> Horsepower (net) 150@4200
>> Torque (net) 245@2500
>> Main Bearings 5
>> Valve Configuration OHV
>> Fuel 2bbl
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> CJ model Information:
>> http://www.earlycj5.com/tech/general...ersGuide.shtml
>>
>> Final AMC (Long 83 inch wheel base) 1976 through 1983
>> Identifying features include:
>> a.. Longer hood and front fenders to accommodate the AMC I-6 engines
>> b.. Engine(s) AMC 232 CID or 258 CID I-6, AMC 304 V-8
>> c.. New stronger, wider frame with longer springs for softer ride
>> d.. Fuel tank and fuel-fill located in rear of the tub
>> e.. Wide windshield frame with built-in door hinges fold-down ***** with
>> wipers mounted on bottom and motor mounted on the inside
>> f.. New floorboard and changed seating bracket design
>> g.. Saginaw steering box (power steering optional)
>> h.. Dana Model 20, after 1979, Dana Model 300 transfer case
>> i.. Dana Model 30 front axle
>> j.. AMC Model 20 2 piece rear axle identified by it's "WWI Round Helmet"
>> style differential cover
>> k.. Three speed transmission T-150, T-18 Four speed transmission
>> optional
>> l.. Laredo and Renegade models had the tailgate deleted, spare tire
>> mounted on rear, models with a tailgate had a swing away tire carrier
>> m.. Levi and Golden Eagle trim levels available
>> n.. Silver Anniversary edition released for 79 only
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:44B68A1F.73FA70E0@sympatico.ca...
>>> CJ's are pretty basic vehicles that are easy to fix. You can get
>>> pre-made harness for them from several companies and the cheap Haynes
>>> manual has excellent wiring diagrams for them. They use a GM harness
>>> for the lights. I changed most of the sockets and connections on mine
>>> by soldering new ones in from a full sized GM van harness some one gave
>>> me.
>>>
>>> They are a lot of fun, they turn on a dime and go like a scalded cat.
>>> The power to weight ratio is pretty good on that small CJ5 - V8 combo,
>>> but even the 6 is a powerhouse.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>
>>> Carl wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'm looking at a 76 CJ5 for real cheap. It's got the AMC 304. It has
>>>> some
>>>> new parts and apparently runs well. The carb has been 'upgraded' to a
>>>> holley
>>>> 2bbl. It will need a starter, exhaust, and a wiring harness. The wiring
>>>> harness is the big ? for me, since I don't know how bad it is.
>>>>
>>>> How can I tell if the t-case is a D300, 20, or 18?
>>>> Did all v-8 CJ's get the AMC20?.
>>>> I know the AMC 304 sucks as far as power/performance, but is it pretty
>>>> reliable? How user serviceable is it?
>>>>
>>>> My previous Jeeps were:
>>>>
>>>> 89 YJ, SOA on 33's. 4cyl, 5spd (rip)
>>>> 99 TJ, stock on 31's. 6cyl, 5spd(rip)
>>>> 89 XJ 2" bb on 30's 6cyl, 5spd(mom's daily driver now!)
>>>> 91 XJ 3.5" RE on 31's, 6cyl AT(rip)
>>>>
>>>> I'm on the hunt for a new Jeep, and am looking at CJ's, YJ's and XJ's.
>>>> I
>>>> like the CJ's, especially the t-case and rear.
>>>>
>>>> I really don't know a lot about CJs, as they are a much different
>>>> animal
>>>> than YJ-XJ-ZJ-TJ-MJ.
>>>>
>>>> I like XJ's because they are comfortable, cheap, and pretty tough. I
>>>> also
>>>> know a decent amount about 'em.
>>>>
>>>> YJ's are the same as XJ's for my likes, except they are not cheap.
>>>>
>>>> Am I getting in over my head here with an old CJ?
>>>>
>>>> Anyone know anyone selling an old XJ-YJ-CJ?
>>>>
>>>> Any help would be great.
>>>>
>>>> Carl
>>
>>
>
>
AMC20 as the std rear end, or the D44 as the optional upgrade -- where
upgrade is debatable. There are many that will suggest that the AMC20 is as
strong as the D44 after a few simple mods are applied.
"Carl" <carlsaiyed@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
news:vPKdnQnkGLvpOyvZnZ2dnUVZ_oGdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Thanks, Billy. So the 76 will have the D20 transfer case? How much better
> is the D300 over the D20?
>
>
> Carl
>
>
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:38b52$44b69f75$48311525$20003@FUSE.NET...
>> There was nothing wrong with the AMC 304 that wasn't because of the EPA.
>> The 'huge' drop in horsepower was because of the change in the way they
>> measured it. 150 'new' horsepower was about the same as 180-190 'old'
>> horsepower and the engine is capable of substantial upgrades.
>>
>>
>> http://www.jeeptech.com/engine/amc304.html
>>
>> The 304 used from '72-'78 has the best performance of all the 304s used
>> in the CJ. .
>>
>> AMC 304 V8
>> Bore x Stroke 3.75" x 3.44"
>> Displacement 304(4.98L)
>> Compression Ratio 8.4:1
>> Horsepower (net) 150@4200
>> Torque (net) 245@2500
>> Main Bearings 5
>> Valve Configuration OHV
>> Fuel 2bbl
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> CJ model Information:
>> http://www.earlycj5.com/tech/general...ersGuide.shtml
>>
>> Final AMC (Long 83 inch wheel base) 1976 through 1983
>> Identifying features include:
>> a.. Longer hood and front fenders to accommodate the AMC I-6 engines
>> b.. Engine(s) AMC 232 CID or 258 CID I-6, AMC 304 V-8
>> c.. New stronger, wider frame with longer springs for softer ride
>> d.. Fuel tank and fuel-fill located in rear of the tub
>> e.. Wide windshield frame with built-in door hinges fold-down ***** with
>> wipers mounted on bottom and motor mounted on the inside
>> f.. New floorboard and changed seating bracket design
>> g.. Saginaw steering box (power steering optional)
>> h.. Dana Model 20, after 1979, Dana Model 300 transfer case
>> i.. Dana Model 30 front axle
>> j.. AMC Model 20 2 piece rear axle identified by it's "WWI Round Helmet"
>> style differential cover
>> k.. Three speed transmission T-150, T-18 Four speed transmission
>> optional
>> l.. Laredo and Renegade models had the tailgate deleted, spare tire
>> mounted on rear, models with a tailgate had a swing away tire carrier
>> m.. Levi and Golden Eagle trim levels available
>> n.. Silver Anniversary edition released for 79 only
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:44B68A1F.73FA70E0@sympatico.ca...
>>> CJ's are pretty basic vehicles that are easy to fix. You can get
>>> pre-made harness for them from several companies and the cheap Haynes
>>> manual has excellent wiring diagrams for them. They use a GM harness
>>> for the lights. I changed most of the sockets and connections on mine
>>> by soldering new ones in from a full sized GM van harness some one gave
>>> me.
>>>
>>> They are a lot of fun, they turn on a dime and go like a scalded cat.
>>> The power to weight ratio is pretty good on that small CJ5 - V8 combo,
>>> but even the 6 is a powerhouse.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>
>>> Carl wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'm looking at a 76 CJ5 for real cheap. It's got the AMC 304. It has
>>>> some
>>>> new parts and apparently runs well. The carb has been 'upgraded' to a
>>>> holley
>>>> 2bbl. It will need a starter, exhaust, and a wiring harness. The wiring
>>>> harness is the big ? for me, since I don't know how bad it is.
>>>>
>>>> How can I tell if the t-case is a D300, 20, or 18?
>>>> Did all v-8 CJ's get the AMC20?.
>>>> I know the AMC 304 sucks as far as power/performance, but is it pretty
>>>> reliable? How user serviceable is it?
>>>>
>>>> My previous Jeeps were:
>>>>
>>>> 89 YJ, SOA on 33's. 4cyl, 5spd (rip)
>>>> 99 TJ, stock on 31's. 6cyl, 5spd(rip)
>>>> 89 XJ 2" bb on 30's 6cyl, 5spd(mom's daily driver now!)
>>>> 91 XJ 3.5" RE on 31's, 6cyl AT(rip)
>>>>
>>>> I'm on the hunt for a new Jeep, and am looking at CJ's, YJ's and XJ's.
>>>> I
>>>> like the CJ's, especially the t-case and rear.
>>>>
>>>> I really don't know a lot about CJs, as they are a much different
>>>> animal
>>>> than YJ-XJ-ZJ-TJ-MJ.
>>>>
>>>> I like XJ's because they are comfortable, cheap, and pretty tough. I
>>>> also
>>>> know a decent amount about 'em.
>>>>
>>>> YJ's are the same as XJ's for my likes, except they are not cheap.
>>>>
>>>> Am I getting in over my head here with an old CJ?
>>>>
>>>> Anyone know anyone selling an old XJ-YJ-CJ?
>>>>
>>>> Any help would be great.
>>>>
>>>> Carl
>>
>>
>
>
#29
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Posts: n/a
Re: 76 CJ5
Cool on the D300. He's asking $1500 for this Jeep, but I still need to take
a look at it. How hard is it to change out the wiring harness with a new one
from painless?
I have heard that if the AMC20's 2-piece shafts are not properly
re-installed after removal, they are weak. How does this happen? What is
generally the cost of a 1-piece axle conversion? Are the shafts 31 spline?
Are any lunchbox lockers availible for the 20?
Carl
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:OoOdnZJ3XvzdLivZnZ2dnUVZ_rydnZ2d@ez2.net...
>
> "Carl" <carlsaiyed@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
> news:Jc-dnehLSal-GSvZnZ2dnUVZ_rOdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> I'm looking at a 76 CJ5 for real cheap. It's got the AMC 304. It has some
>> new parts and apparently runs well. The carb has been 'upgraded' to a
>> holley 2bbl. It will need a starter, exhaust, and a wiring harness. The
>> wiring harness is the big ? for me, since I don't know how bad it is.
>>
>
>
>> How can I tell if the t-case is a D300, 20, or 18?
> It's a D300 in 1976.
>
>
>
>> Did all v-8 CJ's get the AMC20?.
> The AMC20 is the rear end, and it could be an AMC20 or a Dana 44 in that
> truck.
>
>
>
>
a look at it. How hard is it to change out the wiring harness with a new one
from painless?
I have heard that if the AMC20's 2-piece shafts are not properly
re-installed after removal, they are weak. How does this happen? What is
generally the cost of a 1-piece axle conversion? Are the shafts 31 spline?
Are any lunchbox lockers availible for the 20?
Carl
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:OoOdnZJ3XvzdLivZnZ2dnUVZ_rydnZ2d@ez2.net...
>
> "Carl" <carlsaiyed@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
> news:Jc-dnehLSal-GSvZnZ2dnUVZ_rOdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> I'm looking at a 76 CJ5 for real cheap. It's got the AMC 304. It has some
>> new parts and apparently runs well. The carb has been 'upgraded' to a
>> holley 2bbl. It will need a starter, exhaust, and a wiring harness. The
>> wiring harness is the big ? for me, since I don't know how bad it is.
>>
>
>
>> How can I tell if the t-case is a D300, 20, or 18?
> It's a D300 in 1976.
>
>
>
>> Did all v-8 CJ's get the AMC20?.
> The AMC20 is the rear end, and it could be an AMC20 or a Dana 44 in that
> truck.
>
>
>
>
#30
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 76 CJ5
Cool on the D300. He's asking $1500 for this Jeep, but I still need to take
a look at it. How hard is it to change out the wiring harness with a new one
from painless?
I have heard that if the AMC20's 2-piece shafts are not properly
re-installed after removal, they are weak. How does this happen? What is
generally the cost of a 1-piece axle conversion? Are the shafts 31 spline?
Are any lunchbox lockers availible for the 20?
Carl
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:OoOdnZJ3XvzdLivZnZ2dnUVZ_rydnZ2d@ez2.net...
>
> "Carl" <carlsaiyed@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
> news:Jc-dnehLSal-GSvZnZ2dnUVZ_rOdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> I'm looking at a 76 CJ5 for real cheap. It's got the AMC 304. It has some
>> new parts and apparently runs well. The carb has been 'upgraded' to a
>> holley 2bbl. It will need a starter, exhaust, and a wiring harness. The
>> wiring harness is the big ? for me, since I don't know how bad it is.
>>
>
>
>> How can I tell if the t-case is a D300, 20, or 18?
> It's a D300 in 1976.
>
>
>
>> Did all v-8 CJ's get the AMC20?.
> The AMC20 is the rear end, and it could be an AMC20 or a Dana 44 in that
> truck.
>
>
>
>
a look at it. How hard is it to change out the wiring harness with a new one
from painless?
I have heard that if the AMC20's 2-piece shafts are not properly
re-installed after removal, they are weak. How does this happen? What is
generally the cost of a 1-piece axle conversion? Are the shafts 31 spline?
Are any lunchbox lockers availible for the 20?
Carl
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:OoOdnZJ3XvzdLivZnZ2dnUVZ_rydnZ2d@ez2.net...
>
> "Carl" <carlsaiyed@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
> news:Jc-dnehLSal-GSvZnZ2dnUVZ_rOdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> I'm looking at a 76 CJ5 for real cheap. It's got the AMC 304. It has some
>> new parts and apparently runs well. The carb has been 'upgraded' to a
>> holley 2bbl. It will need a starter, exhaust, and a wiring harness. The
>> wiring harness is the big ? for me, since I don't know how bad it is.
>>
>
>
>> How can I tell if the t-case is a D300, 20, or 18?
> It's a D300 in 1976.
>
>
>
>> Did all v-8 CJ's get the AMC20?.
> The AMC20 is the rear end, and it could be an AMC20 or a Dana 44 in that
> truck.
>
>
>
>