58 willys truck
12-29-2003, 05:05 PM
#11
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Re: 58 ****** truck
When I did my 86 with a 'glass body, I put seals in the tranny and in
the t-case. It sure needed them, especially the shift fork seals on the
t-case....
I put a new clutch kit in too, just because it was open... It still had
a fair bit of wear left.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Alan Haley wrote:
>
> I am building a 58 ****** truck. Right now I am finishing up the brakes and
> thinking about the tranny. The transmission is coated with grease and oil.
> Of course, it was under this old rig for a lot of years and would have
> picked up a lot of engine oil and grease. The problem is, I cant tell if it
> is just normal dirty or needs seals and bearings replaced. I dont want to
> install it, put the body on and after a few thousand miles find out I should
> have done some work on the transmission. What do you all think?
the t-case. It sure needed them, especially the shift fork seals on the
t-case....
I put a new clutch kit in too, just because it was open... It still had
a fair bit of wear left.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Alan Haley wrote:
>
> I am building a 58 ****** truck. Right now I am finishing up the brakes and
> thinking about the tranny. The transmission is coated with grease and oil.
> Of course, it was under this old rig for a lot of years and would have
> picked up a lot of engine oil and grease. The problem is, I cant tell if it
> is just normal dirty or needs seals and bearings replaced. I dont want to
> install it, put the body on and after a few thousand miles find out I should
> have done some work on the transmission. What do you all think?
12-29-2003, 05:05 PM
#12
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Re: 58 ****** truck
When I did my 86 with a 'glass body, I put seals in the tranny and in
the t-case. It sure needed them, especially the shift fork seals on the
t-case....
I put a new clutch kit in too, just because it was open... It still had
a fair bit of wear left.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Alan Haley wrote:
>
> I am building a 58 ****** truck. Right now I am finishing up the brakes and
> thinking about the tranny. The transmission is coated with grease and oil.
> Of course, it was under this old rig for a lot of years and would have
> picked up a lot of engine oil and grease. The problem is, I cant tell if it
> is just normal dirty or needs seals and bearings replaced. I dont want to
> install it, put the body on and after a few thousand miles find out I should
> have done some work on the transmission. What do you all think?
the t-case. It sure needed them, especially the shift fork seals on the
t-case....
I put a new clutch kit in too, just because it was open... It still had
a fair bit of wear left.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Alan Haley wrote:
>
> I am building a 58 ****** truck. Right now I am finishing up the brakes and
> thinking about the tranny. The transmission is coated with grease and oil.
> Of course, it was under this old rig for a lot of years and would have
> picked up a lot of engine oil and grease. The problem is, I cant tell if it
> is just normal dirty or needs seals and bearings replaced. I dont want to
> install it, put the body on and after a few thousand miles find out I should
> have done some work on the transmission. What do you all think?
12-29-2003, 05:05 PM
#13
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Re: 58 ****** truck
When I did my 86 with a 'glass body, I put seals in the tranny and in
the t-case. It sure needed them, especially the shift fork seals on the
t-case....
I put a new clutch kit in too, just because it was open... It still had
a fair bit of wear left.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Alan Haley wrote:
>
> I am building a 58 ****** truck. Right now I am finishing up the brakes and
> thinking about the tranny. The transmission is coated with grease and oil.
> Of course, it was under this old rig for a lot of years and would have
> picked up a lot of engine oil and grease. The problem is, I cant tell if it
> is just normal dirty or needs seals and bearings replaced. I dont want to
> install it, put the body on and after a few thousand miles find out I should
> have done some work on the transmission. What do you all think?
the t-case. It sure needed them, especially the shift fork seals on the
t-case....
I put a new clutch kit in too, just because it was open... It still had
a fair bit of wear left.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Alan Haley wrote:
>
> I am building a 58 ****** truck. Right now I am finishing up the brakes and
> thinking about the tranny. The transmission is coated with grease and oil.
> Of course, it was under this old rig for a lot of years and would have
> picked up a lot of engine oil and grease. The problem is, I cant tell if it
> is just normal dirty or needs seals and bearings replaced. I dont want to
> install it, put the body on and after a few thousand miles find out I should
> have done some work on the transmission. What do you all think?
12-29-2003, 09:41 PM
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Re: 58 ****** truck
"Alan Haley" <ahaley@tdstelme.net> wrote in message news:<3ff0630c_2@newspeer2.tds.net>...
> I am building a 58 ****** truck. Right now I am finishing up the brakes and
> thinking about the tranny. The transmission is coated with grease and oil.
> Of course, it was under this old rig for a lot of years and would have
> picked up a lot of engine oil and grease. The problem is, I cant tell if it
> is just normal dirty or needs seals and bearings replaced. I dont want to
> install it, put the body on and after a few thousand miles find out I should
> have done some work on the transmission. What do you all think?
First, I think that it is great that you are building a nice ******.
We have a '49. It is a 'preservation' as opposed to a 'renovation'
and we have a lot of fun with her. I know that you will have a lot of
fun with yours. Don't forget that the job is not complete until you
replace all the mud and dirt and grease you knock off tinkering with
it.
I had a catastrophe with the linkages from the column shifter and
ended up loosing lots of teeth from a couple of gears. I had it
rebuilt with a tower shifter that goes straight down into transmission
and junked the three-on-the-tree thing. I would recommend that you
make this modification. Also, if you have only one lever for
2-4H-N-4L on the transfer case I recommend junking that thing and
going to the one with two levers - one for 2-N-4 and the other for
Hi-Low.
Do you have the Timkin rear axle with the 5.38's? Molly has the
134c.i. flat head and that rear end. Once I thought I had a bent axel
but it was really a bent wheel. I had been trying to pull a big tree
out of a creek but only managed to rut up the pasture. Later someone
following me pointed out that passenger rear tire had a bad wobble.
What threw me was when I put the spare on to check for true the spare
was bent too! Finally, I found a true wheel and discovered that the
axel was ok. Hope this anecdote keeps someone else from overhalling a
rear end needlessly. (I have no expectation of stopping anyone from
trying to drag off downed trees or doing other silly things with thier
jeep.)
Good Luck. Yahoo has a very good ****** Tech group that will provide
you with lots of good info.
> I am building a 58 ****** truck. Right now I am finishing up the brakes and
> thinking about the tranny. The transmission is coated with grease and oil.
> Of course, it was under this old rig for a lot of years and would have
> picked up a lot of engine oil and grease. The problem is, I cant tell if it
> is just normal dirty or needs seals and bearings replaced. I dont want to
> install it, put the body on and after a few thousand miles find out I should
> have done some work on the transmission. What do you all think?
First, I think that it is great that you are building a nice ******.
We have a '49. It is a 'preservation' as opposed to a 'renovation'
and we have a lot of fun with her. I know that you will have a lot of
fun with yours. Don't forget that the job is not complete until you
replace all the mud and dirt and grease you knock off tinkering with
it.
I had a catastrophe with the linkages from the column shifter and
ended up loosing lots of teeth from a couple of gears. I had it
rebuilt with a tower shifter that goes straight down into transmission
and junked the three-on-the-tree thing. I would recommend that you
make this modification. Also, if you have only one lever for
2-4H-N-4L on the transfer case I recommend junking that thing and
going to the one with two levers - one for 2-N-4 and the other for
Hi-Low.
Do you have the Timkin rear axle with the 5.38's? Molly has the
134c.i. flat head and that rear end. Once I thought I had a bent axel
but it was really a bent wheel. I had been trying to pull a big tree
out of a creek but only managed to rut up the pasture. Later someone
following me pointed out that passenger rear tire had a bad wobble.
What threw me was when I put the spare on to check for true the spare
was bent too! Finally, I found a true wheel and discovered that the
axel was ok. Hope this anecdote keeps someone else from overhalling a
rear end needlessly. (I have no expectation of stopping anyone from
trying to drag off downed trees or doing other silly things with thier
jeep.)
Good Luck. Yahoo has a very good ****** Tech group that will provide
you with lots of good info.
12-29-2003, 09:41 PM
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Re: 58 ****** truck
"Alan Haley" <ahaley@tdstelme.net> wrote in message news:<3ff0630c_2@newspeer2.tds.net>...
> I am building a 58 ****** truck. Right now I am finishing up the brakes and
> thinking about the tranny. The transmission is coated with grease and oil.
> Of course, it was under this old rig for a lot of years and would have
> picked up a lot of engine oil and grease. The problem is, I cant tell if it
> is just normal dirty or needs seals and bearings replaced. I dont want to
> install it, put the body on and after a few thousand miles find out I should
> have done some work on the transmission. What do you all think?
First, I think that it is great that you are building a nice ******.
We have a '49. It is a 'preservation' as opposed to a 'renovation'
and we have a lot of fun with her. I know that you will have a lot of
fun with yours. Don't forget that the job is not complete until you
replace all the mud and dirt and grease you knock off tinkering with
it.
I had a catastrophe with the linkages from the column shifter and
ended up loosing lots of teeth from a couple of gears. I had it
rebuilt with a tower shifter that goes straight down into transmission
and junked the three-on-the-tree thing. I would recommend that you
make this modification. Also, if you have only one lever for
2-4H-N-4L on the transfer case I recommend junking that thing and
going to the one with two levers - one for 2-N-4 and the other for
Hi-Low.
Do you have the Timkin rear axle with the 5.38's? Molly has the
134c.i. flat head and that rear end. Once I thought I had a bent axel
but it was really a bent wheel. I had been trying to pull a big tree
out of a creek but only managed to rut up the pasture. Later someone
following me pointed out that passenger rear tire had a bad wobble.
What threw me was when I put the spare on to check for true the spare
was bent too! Finally, I found a true wheel and discovered that the
axel was ok. Hope this anecdote keeps someone else from overhalling a
rear end needlessly. (I have no expectation of stopping anyone from
trying to drag off downed trees or doing other silly things with thier
jeep.)
Good Luck. Yahoo has a very good ****** Tech group that will provide
you with lots of good info.
> I am building a 58 ****** truck. Right now I am finishing up the brakes and
> thinking about the tranny. The transmission is coated with grease and oil.
> Of course, it was under this old rig for a lot of years and would have
> picked up a lot of engine oil and grease. The problem is, I cant tell if it
> is just normal dirty or needs seals and bearings replaced. I dont want to
> install it, put the body on and after a few thousand miles find out I should
> have done some work on the transmission. What do you all think?
First, I think that it is great that you are building a nice ******.
We have a '49. It is a 'preservation' as opposed to a 'renovation'
and we have a lot of fun with her. I know that you will have a lot of
fun with yours. Don't forget that the job is not complete until you
replace all the mud and dirt and grease you knock off tinkering with
it.
I had a catastrophe with the linkages from the column shifter and
ended up loosing lots of teeth from a couple of gears. I had it
rebuilt with a tower shifter that goes straight down into transmission
and junked the three-on-the-tree thing. I would recommend that you
make this modification. Also, if you have only one lever for
2-4H-N-4L on the transfer case I recommend junking that thing and
going to the one with two levers - one for 2-N-4 and the other for
Hi-Low.
Do you have the Timkin rear axle with the 5.38's? Molly has the
134c.i. flat head and that rear end. Once I thought I had a bent axel
but it was really a bent wheel. I had been trying to pull a big tree
out of a creek but only managed to rut up the pasture. Later someone
following me pointed out that passenger rear tire had a bad wobble.
What threw me was when I put the spare on to check for true the spare
was bent too! Finally, I found a true wheel and discovered that the
axel was ok. Hope this anecdote keeps someone else from overhalling a
rear end needlessly. (I have no expectation of stopping anyone from
trying to drag off downed trees or doing other silly things with thier
jeep.)
Good Luck. Yahoo has a very good ****** Tech group that will provide
you with lots of good info.
12-29-2003, 09:41 PM
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Re: 58 ****** truck
"Alan Haley" <ahaley@tdstelme.net> wrote in message news:<3ff0630c_2@newspeer2.tds.net>...
> I am building a 58 ****** truck. Right now I am finishing up the brakes and
> thinking about the tranny. The transmission is coated with grease and oil.
> Of course, it was under this old rig for a lot of years and would have
> picked up a lot of engine oil and grease. The problem is, I cant tell if it
> is just normal dirty or needs seals and bearings replaced. I dont want to
> install it, put the body on and after a few thousand miles find out I should
> have done some work on the transmission. What do you all think?
First, I think that it is great that you are building a nice ******.
We have a '49. It is a 'preservation' as opposed to a 'renovation'
and we have a lot of fun with her. I know that you will have a lot of
fun with yours. Don't forget that the job is not complete until you
replace all the mud and dirt and grease you knock off tinkering with
it.
I had a catastrophe with the linkages from the column shifter and
ended up loosing lots of teeth from a couple of gears. I had it
rebuilt with a tower shifter that goes straight down into transmission
and junked the three-on-the-tree thing. I would recommend that you
make this modification. Also, if you have only one lever for
2-4H-N-4L on the transfer case I recommend junking that thing and
going to the one with two levers - one for 2-N-4 and the other for
Hi-Low.
Do you have the Timkin rear axle with the 5.38's? Molly has the
134c.i. flat head and that rear end. Once I thought I had a bent axel
but it was really a bent wheel. I had been trying to pull a big tree
out of a creek but only managed to rut up the pasture. Later someone
following me pointed out that passenger rear tire had a bad wobble.
What threw me was when I put the spare on to check for true the spare
was bent too! Finally, I found a true wheel and discovered that the
axel was ok. Hope this anecdote keeps someone else from overhalling a
rear end needlessly. (I have no expectation of stopping anyone from
trying to drag off downed trees or doing other silly things with thier
jeep.)
Good Luck. Yahoo has a very good ****** Tech group that will provide
you with lots of good info.
> I am building a 58 ****** truck. Right now I am finishing up the brakes and
> thinking about the tranny. The transmission is coated with grease and oil.
> Of course, it was under this old rig for a lot of years and would have
> picked up a lot of engine oil and grease. The problem is, I cant tell if it
> is just normal dirty or needs seals and bearings replaced. I dont want to
> install it, put the body on and after a few thousand miles find out I should
> have done some work on the transmission. What do you all think?
First, I think that it is great that you are building a nice ******.
We have a '49. It is a 'preservation' as opposed to a 'renovation'
and we have a lot of fun with her. I know that you will have a lot of
fun with yours. Don't forget that the job is not complete until you
replace all the mud and dirt and grease you knock off tinkering with
it.
I had a catastrophe with the linkages from the column shifter and
ended up loosing lots of teeth from a couple of gears. I had it
rebuilt with a tower shifter that goes straight down into transmission
and junked the three-on-the-tree thing. I would recommend that you
make this modification. Also, if you have only one lever for
2-4H-N-4L on the transfer case I recommend junking that thing and
going to the one with two levers - one for 2-N-4 and the other for
Hi-Low.
Do you have the Timkin rear axle with the 5.38's? Molly has the
134c.i. flat head and that rear end. Once I thought I had a bent axel
but it was really a bent wheel. I had been trying to pull a big tree
out of a creek but only managed to rut up the pasture. Later someone
following me pointed out that passenger rear tire had a bad wobble.
What threw me was when I put the spare on to check for true the spare
was bent too! Finally, I found a true wheel and discovered that the
axel was ok. Hope this anecdote keeps someone else from overhalling a
rear end needlessly. (I have no expectation of stopping anyone from
trying to drag off downed trees or doing other silly things with thier
jeep.)
Good Luck. Yahoo has a very good ****** Tech group that will provide
you with lots of good info.
12-30-2003, 08:54 AM
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Re: 58 ****** truck
Alan,
Do you enjoy playing Russian Roulette with a fully loaded pistol? While you
have it out, rebuild it! It is almost 50 years old - the seals have to be
shot unless they were changed very recently. You could try checking the
lubricant level. If it is full and clean, you may have a chance, but my
guess is that the level is low and it is filthy, both of which would be bad
news.
--
Dana Rohleder
Port Kent, NY
"Enjoy every sandwich." - W. Zevon
"Alan Haley" <ahaley@tdstelme.net> wrote in message
news:3ff0630c_2@newspeer2.tds.net...
> I am building a 58 ****** truck. Right now I am finishing up the brakes
and
> thinking about the tranny. The transmission is coated with grease and
oil.
> Of course, it was under this old rig for a lot of years and would have
> picked up a lot of engine oil and grease. The problem is, I cant tell if
it
> is just normal dirty or needs seals and bearings replaced. I dont want to
> install it, put the body on and after a few thousand miles find out I
should
> have done some work on the transmission. What do you all think?
>
>
>
Do you enjoy playing Russian Roulette with a fully loaded pistol? While you
have it out, rebuild it! It is almost 50 years old - the seals have to be
shot unless they were changed very recently. You could try checking the
lubricant level. If it is full and clean, you may have a chance, but my
guess is that the level is low and it is filthy, both of which would be bad
news.
--
Dana Rohleder
Port Kent, NY
"Enjoy every sandwich." - W. Zevon
"Alan Haley" <ahaley@tdstelme.net> wrote in message
news:3ff0630c_2@newspeer2.tds.net...
> I am building a 58 ****** truck. Right now I am finishing up the brakes
and
> thinking about the tranny. The transmission is coated with grease and
oil.
> Of course, it was under this old rig for a lot of years and would have
> picked up a lot of engine oil and grease. The problem is, I cant tell if
it
> is just normal dirty or needs seals and bearings replaced. I dont want to
> install it, put the body on and after a few thousand miles find out I
should
> have done some work on the transmission. What do you all think?
>
>
>
12-30-2003, 08:54 AM
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Re: 58 ****** truck
Alan,
Do you enjoy playing Russian Roulette with a fully loaded pistol? While you
have it out, rebuild it! It is almost 50 years old - the seals have to be
shot unless they were changed very recently. You could try checking the
lubricant level. If it is full and clean, you may have a chance, but my
guess is that the level is low and it is filthy, both of which would be bad
news.
--
Dana Rohleder
Port Kent, NY
"Enjoy every sandwich." - W. Zevon
"Alan Haley" <ahaley@tdstelme.net> wrote in message
news:3ff0630c_2@newspeer2.tds.net...
> I am building a 58 ****** truck. Right now I am finishing up the brakes
and
> thinking about the tranny. The transmission is coated with grease and
oil.
> Of course, it was under this old rig for a lot of years and would have
> picked up a lot of engine oil and grease. The problem is, I cant tell if
it
> is just normal dirty or needs seals and bearings replaced. I dont want to
> install it, put the body on and after a few thousand miles find out I
should
> have done some work on the transmission. What do you all think?
>
>
>
Do you enjoy playing Russian Roulette with a fully loaded pistol? While you
have it out, rebuild it! It is almost 50 years old - the seals have to be
shot unless they were changed very recently. You could try checking the
lubricant level. If it is full and clean, you may have a chance, but my
guess is that the level is low and it is filthy, both of which would be bad
news.
--
Dana Rohleder
Port Kent, NY
"Enjoy every sandwich." - W. Zevon
"Alan Haley" <ahaley@tdstelme.net> wrote in message
news:3ff0630c_2@newspeer2.tds.net...
> I am building a 58 ****** truck. Right now I am finishing up the brakes
and
> thinking about the tranny. The transmission is coated with grease and
oil.
> Of course, it was under this old rig for a lot of years and would have
> picked up a lot of engine oil and grease. The problem is, I cant tell if
it
> is just normal dirty or needs seals and bearings replaced. I dont want to
> install it, put the body on and after a few thousand miles find out I
should
> have done some work on the transmission. What do you all think?
>
>
>
12-30-2003, 08:54 AM
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Re: 58 ****** truck
Alan,
Do you enjoy playing Russian Roulette with a fully loaded pistol? While you
have it out, rebuild it! It is almost 50 years old - the seals have to be
shot unless they were changed very recently. You could try checking the
lubricant level. If it is full and clean, you may have a chance, but my
guess is that the level is low and it is filthy, both of which would be bad
news.
--
Dana Rohleder
Port Kent, NY
"Enjoy every sandwich." - W. Zevon
"Alan Haley" <ahaley@tdstelme.net> wrote in message
news:3ff0630c_2@newspeer2.tds.net...
> I am building a 58 ****** truck. Right now I am finishing up the brakes
and
> thinking about the tranny. The transmission is coated with grease and
oil.
> Of course, it was under this old rig for a lot of years and would have
> picked up a lot of engine oil and grease. The problem is, I cant tell if
it
> is just normal dirty or needs seals and bearings replaced. I dont want to
> install it, put the body on and after a few thousand miles find out I
should
> have done some work on the transmission. What do you all think?
>
>
>
Do you enjoy playing Russian Roulette with a fully loaded pistol? While you
have it out, rebuild it! It is almost 50 years old - the seals have to be
shot unless they were changed very recently. You could try checking the
lubricant level. If it is full and clean, you may have a chance, but my
guess is that the level is low and it is filthy, both of which would be bad
news.
--
Dana Rohleder
Port Kent, NY
"Enjoy every sandwich." - W. Zevon
"Alan Haley" <ahaley@tdstelme.net> wrote in message
news:3ff0630c_2@newspeer2.tds.net...
> I am building a 58 ****** truck. Right now I am finishing up the brakes
and
> thinking about the tranny. The transmission is coated with grease and
oil.
> Of course, it was under this old rig for a lot of years and would have
> picked up a lot of engine oil and grease. The problem is, I cant tell if
it
> is just normal dirty or needs seals and bearings replaced. I dont want to
> install it, put the body on and after a few thousand miles find out I
should
> have done some work on the transmission. What do you all think?
>
>
>
12-30-2003, 09:50 AM
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what was I thinking?
Thanks for all the advice. I should have known-of course it needs to be
rebuilt.
"Alan Haley" <ahaley@tdstelme.net> wrote in message
news:3ff0630c_2@newspeer2.tds.net...
> I am building a 58 ****** truck. Right now I am finishing up the brakes
and
> thinking about the tranny. The transmission is coated with grease and
oil.
> Of course, it was under this old rig for a lot of years and would have
> picked up a lot of engine oil and grease. The problem is, I cant tell if
it
> is just normal dirty or needs seals and bearings replaced. I dont want to
> install it, put the body on and after a few thousand miles find out I
should
> have done some work on the transmission. What do you all think?
>
>
>
rebuilt.
"Alan Haley" <ahaley@tdstelme.net> wrote in message
news:3ff0630c_2@newspeer2.tds.net...
> I am building a 58 ****** truck. Right now I am finishing up the brakes
and
> thinking about the tranny. The transmission is coated with grease and
oil.
> Of course, it was under this old rig for a lot of years and would have
> picked up a lot of engine oil and grease. The problem is, I cant tell if
it
> is just normal dirty or needs seals and bearings replaced. I dont want to
> install it, put the body on and after a few thousand miles find out I
should
> have done some work on the transmission. What do you all think?
>
>
>