5 W 30, revisited
04-07-2004, 05:19 PM
#41
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 5 W 30, revisited
5W30 is OK for cold climates.
"Matt" <mhammer8@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3a3f4978.0404062031.45633962@posting.google.c om...
> I Googled this here and found lots of conflicting data, so let me tell
> the story:
>
> I got my 60,000 mile checkup done on my '99TJ 3 months ago at a
> dealer, with oil change included. Yesterday I went to change the oil
> and my drain plug had been crushed and totally stripped (the head, not
> the threads) apparently by an air wrench.So I took it back today and
> the dealer replaced the plug, and in so doing also changed the oil. My
> question: they used 5W30. I usually use Syntec 10W30. I noticed the
> sticker and asked the guy, and he said they use 5W30 all the time in
> TJs. (Apparently they use air wrenches to change oil, too, so I don't
> trust their judgment) They're a Jeep dealer, mind you. I live in
> Virginia and it gets hotter than hell in the summer. Is this safe?
> Isn't 5W30 too thin? Or am I worrying about nothing? If it is too
> thin, is there an additive I can toss in instead of another changeout
> for the next 3,000? Thanks in advance.
>
> Matt
"Matt" <mhammer8@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3a3f4978.0404062031.45633962@posting.google.c om...
> I Googled this here and found lots of conflicting data, so let me tell
> the story:
>
> I got my 60,000 mile checkup done on my '99TJ 3 months ago at a
> dealer, with oil change included. Yesterday I went to change the oil
> and my drain plug had been crushed and totally stripped (the head, not
> the threads) apparently by an air wrench.So I took it back today and
> the dealer replaced the plug, and in so doing also changed the oil. My
> question: they used 5W30. I usually use Syntec 10W30. I noticed the
> sticker and asked the guy, and he said they use 5W30 all the time in
> TJs. (Apparently they use air wrenches to change oil, too, so I don't
> trust their judgment) They're a Jeep dealer, mind you. I live in
> Virginia and it gets hotter than hell in the summer. Is this safe?
> Isn't 5W30 too thin? Or am I worrying about nothing? If it is too
> thin, is there an additive I can toss in instead of another changeout
> for the next 3,000? Thanks in advance.
>
> Matt
04-07-2004, 05:28 PM
#42
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 5 W 30, revisited
I have heard the same thing Jerry. 5/30 is too thin for warm temps, but it
makes a great option for cold climates. I have also heard that the
difference between the two numbers is am important consideration. If the
------ is too wide, then the oil becomes unstable and breaks down.
The Oil Weight Tables in my BMW, among others, seems to support the notion
that the 5W oils are ill suited for warm weather. These oils are recommended
for sustained temps (weather) like what would be found in Minnesota in
winter. I don't think that 5W oils are suitable for California, except they
might work well in the mountain regions during winter. I think that the 10W
oils, 10w30 and 10w40, can be used year around in almost all of California,
but if one wanted to switch to a winter weight oil, then the 5W oils are
fine.
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
news:4RMcc.2250$4K.1433@fed1read05...
> That's an old wive's tale 5W-30 is 30 weight when warmed up just like
10W-30
> is.
>
> Jerry
>
> --
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> N6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
> "Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message
> news:c501m60f20@enews3.newsguy.com...
> > Don't run 5w-30 in high temps. See the chart in your owners manual.
> >
> > "Matt" <mhammer8@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:3a3f4978.0404062031.45633962@posting.google.c om...
> > > I Googled this here and found lots of conflicting data, so let me tell
> > > the story:
> > >
> > > I got my 60,000 mile checkup done on my '99TJ 3 months ago at a
> > > dealer, with oil change included. Yesterday I went to change the oil
> > > and my drain plug had been crushed and totally stripped (the head, not
> > > the threads) apparently by an air wrench.So I took it back today and
> > > the dealer replaced the plug, and in so doing also changed the oil. My
> > > question: they used 5W30. I usually use Syntec 10W30. I noticed the
> > > sticker and asked the guy, and he said they use 5W30 all the time in
> > > TJs. (Apparently they use air wrenches to change oil, too, so I don't
> > > trust their judgment) They're a Jeep dealer, mind you. I live in
> > > Virginia and it gets hotter than hell in the summer. Is this safe?
> > > Isn't 5W30 too thin? Or am I worrying about nothing? If it is too
> > > thin, is there an additive I can toss in instead of another changeout
> > > for the next 3,000? Thanks in advance.
> > >
> > > Matt
> >
> >
>
>
makes a great option for cold climates. I have also heard that the
difference between the two numbers is am important consideration. If the
------ is too wide, then the oil becomes unstable and breaks down.
The Oil Weight Tables in my BMW, among others, seems to support the notion
that the 5W oils are ill suited for warm weather. These oils are recommended
for sustained temps (weather) like what would be found in Minnesota in
winter. I don't think that 5W oils are suitable for California, except they
might work well in the mountain regions during winter. I think that the 10W
oils, 10w30 and 10w40, can be used year around in almost all of California,
but if one wanted to switch to a winter weight oil, then the 5W oils are
fine.
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
news:4RMcc.2250$4K.1433@fed1read05...
> That's an old wive's tale 5W-30 is 30 weight when warmed up just like
10W-30
> is.
>
> Jerry
>
> --
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> N6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
> "Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message
> news:c501m60f20@enews3.newsguy.com...
> > Don't run 5w-30 in high temps. See the chart in your owners manual.
> >
> > "Matt" <mhammer8@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:3a3f4978.0404062031.45633962@posting.google.c om...
> > > I Googled this here and found lots of conflicting data, so let me tell
> > > the story:
> > >
> > > I got my 60,000 mile checkup done on my '99TJ 3 months ago at a
> > > dealer, with oil change included. Yesterday I went to change the oil
> > > and my drain plug had been crushed and totally stripped (the head, not
> > > the threads) apparently by an air wrench.So I took it back today and
> > > the dealer replaced the plug, and in so doing also changed the oil. My
> > > question: they used 5W30. I usually use Syntec 10W30. I noticed the
> > > sticker and asked the guy, and he said they use 5W30 all the time in
> > > TJs. (Apparently they use air wrenches to change oil, too, so I don't
> > > trust their judgment) They're a Jeep dealer, mind you. I live in
> > > Virginia and it gets hotter than hell in the summer. Is this safe?
> > > Isn't 5W30 too thin? Or am I worrying about nothing? If it is too
> > > thin, is there an additive I can toss in instead of another changeout
> > > for the next 3,000? Thanks in advance.
> > >
> > > Matt
> >
> >
>
>
04-07-2004, 05:28 PM
#43
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 5 W 30, revisited
I have heard the same thing Jerry. 5/30 is too thin for warm temps, but it
makes a great option for cold climates. I have also heard that the
difference between the two numbers is am important consideration. If the
------ is too wide, then the oil becomes unstable and breaks down.
The Oil Weight Tables in my BMW, among others, seems to support the notion
that the 5W oils are ill suited for warm weather. These oils are recommended
for sustained temps (weather) like what would be found in Minnesota in
winter. I don't think that 5W oils are suitable for California, except they
might work well in the mountain regions during winter. I think that the 10W
oils, 10w30 and 10w40, can be used year around in almost all of California,
but if one wanted to switch to a winter weight oil, then the 5W oils are
fine.
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
news:4RMcc.2250$4K.1433@fed1read05...
> That's an old wive's tale 5W-30 is 30 weight when warmed up just like
10W-30
> is.
>
> Jerry
>
> --
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> N6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
> "Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message
> news:c501m60f20@enews3.newsguy.com...
> > Don't run 5w-30 in high temps. See the chart in your owners manual.
> >
> > "Matt" <mhammer8@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:3a3f4978.0404062031.45633962@posting.google.c om...
> > > I Googled this here and found lots of conflicting data, so let me tell
> > > the story:
> > >
> > > I got my 60,000 mile checkup done on my '99TJ 3 months ago at a
> > > dealer, with oil change included. Yesterday I went to change the oil
> > > and my drain plug had been crushed and totally stripped (the head, not
> > > the threads) apparently by an air wrench.So I took it back today and
> > > the dealer replaced the plug, and in so doing also changed the oil. My
> > > question: they used 5W30. I usually use Syntec 10W30. I noticed the
> > > sticker and asked the guy, and he said they use 5W30 all the time in
> > > TJs. (Apparently they use air wrenches to change oil, too, so I don't
> > > trust their judgment) They're a Jeep dealer, mind you. I live in
> > > Virginia and it gets hotter than hell in the summer. Is this safe?
> > > Isn't 5W30 too thin? Or am I worrying about nothing? If it is too
> > > thin, is there an additive I can toss in instead of another changeout
> > > for the next 3,000? Thanks in advance.
> > >
> > > Matt
> >
> >
>
>
makes a great option for cold climates. I have also heard that the
difference between the two numbers is am important consideration. If the
------ is too wide, then the oil becomes unstable and breaks down.
The Oil Weight Tables in my BMW, among others, seems to support the notion
that the 5W oils are ill suited for warm weather. These oils are recommended
for sustained temps (weather) like what would be found in Minnesota in
winter. I don't think that 5W oils are suitable for California, except they
might work well in the mountain regions during winter. I think that the 10W
oils, 10w30 and 10w40, can be used year around in almost all of California,
but if one wanted to switch to a winter weight oil, then the 5W oils are
fine.
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
news:4RMcc.2250$4K.1433@fed1read05...
> That's an old wive's tale 5W-30 is 30 weight when warmed up just like
10W-30
> is.
>
> Jerry
>
> --
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> N6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
> "Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message
> news:c501m60f20@enews3.newsguy.com...
> > Don't run 5w-30 in high temps. See the chart in your owners manual.
> >
> > "Matt" <mhammer8@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:3a3f4978.0404062031.45633962@posting.google.c om...
> > > I Googled this here and found lots of conflicting data, so let me tell
> > > the story:
> > >
> > > I got my 60,000 mile checkup done on my '99TJ 3 months ago at a
> > > dealer, with oil change included. Yesterday I went to change the oil
> > > and my drain plug had been crushed and totally stripped (the head, not
> > > the threads) apparently by an air wrench.So I took it back today and
> > > the dealer replaced the plug, and in so doing also changed the oil. My
> > > question: they used 5W30. I usually use Syntec 10W30. I noticed the
> > > sticker and asked the guy, and he said they use 5W30 all the time in
> > > TJs. (Apparently they use air wrenches to change oil, too, so I don't
> > > trust their judgment) They're a Jeep dealer, mind you. I live in
> > > Virginia and it gets hotter than hell in the summer. Is this safe?
> > > Isn't 5W30 too thin? Or am I worrying about nothing? If it is too
> > > thin, is there an additive I can toss in instead of another changeout
> > > for the next 3,000? Thanks in advance.
> > >
> > > Matt
> >
> >
>
>
04-07-2004, 05:28 PM
#44
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 5 W 30, revisited
I have heard the same thing Jerry. 5/30 is too thin for warm temps, but it
makes a great option for cold climates. I have also heard that the
difference between the two numbers is am important consideration. If the
------ is too wide, then the oil becomes unstable and breaks down.
The Oil Weight Tables in my BMW, among others, seems to support the notion
that the 5W oils are ill suited for warm weather. These oils are recommended
for sustained temps (weather) like what would be found in Minnesota in
winter. I don't think that 5W oils are suitable for California, except they
might work well in the mountain regions during winter. I think that the 10W
oils, 10w30 and 10w40, can be used year around in almost all of California,
but if one wanted to switch to a winter weight oil, then the 5W oils are
fine.
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
news:4RMcc.2250$4K.1433@fed1read05...
> That's an old wive's tale 5W-30 is 30 weight when warmed up just like
10W-30
> is.
>
> Jerry
>
> --
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> N6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
> "Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message
> news:c501m60f20@enews3.newsguy.com...
> > Don't run 5w-30 in high temps. See the chart in your owners manual.
> >
> > "Matt" <mhammer8@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:3a3f4978.0404062031.45633962@posting.google.c om...
> > > I Googled this here and found lots of conflicting data, so let me tell
> > > the story:
> > >
> > > I got my 60,000 mile checkup done on my '99TJ 3 months ago at a
> > > dealer, with oil change included. Yesterday I went to change the oil
> > > and my drain plug had been crushed and totally stripped (the head, not
> > > the threads) apparently by an air wrench.So I took it back today and
> > > the dealer replaced the plug, and in so doing also changed the oil. My
> > > question: they used 5W30. I usually use Syntec 10W30. I noticed the
> > > sticker and asked the guy, and he said they use 5W30 all the time in
> > > TJs. (Apparently they use air wrenches to change oil, too, so I don't
> > > trust their judgment) They're a Jeep dealer, mind you. I live in
> > > Virginia and it gets hotter than hell in the summer. Is this safe?
> > > Isn't 5W30 too thin? Or am I worrying about nothing? If it is too
> > > thin, is there an additive I can toss in instead of another changeout
> > > for the next 3,000? Thanks in advance.
> > >
> > > Matt
> >
> >
>
>
makes a great option for cold climates. I have also heard that the
difference between the two numbers is am important consideration. If the
------ is too wide, then the oil becomes unstable and breaks down.
The Oil Weight Tables in my BMW, among others, seems to support the notion
that the 5W oils are ill suited for warm weather. These oils are recommended
for sustained temps (weather) like what would be found in Minnesota in
winter. I don't think that 5W oils are suitable for California, except they
might work well in the mountain regions during winter. I think that the 10W
oils, 10w30 and 10w40, can be used year around in almost all of California,
but if one wanted to switch to a winter weight oil, then the 5W oils are
fine.
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
news:4RMcc.2250$4K.1433@fed1read05...
> That's an old wive's tale 5W-30 is 30 weight when warmed up just like
10W-30
> is.
>
> Jerry
>
> --
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> N6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
> "Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message
> news:c501m60f20@enews3.newsguy.com...
> > Don't run 5w-30 in high temps. See the chart in your owners manual.
> >
> > "Matt" <mhammer8@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:3a3f4978.0404062031.45633962@posting.google.c om...
> > > I Googled this here and found lots of conflicting data, so let me tell
> > > the story:
> > >
> > > I got my 60,000 mile checkup done on my '99TJ 3 months ago at a
> > > dealer, with oil change included. Yesterday I went to change the oil
> > > and my drain plug had been crushed and totally stripped (the head, not
> > > the threads) apparently by an air wrench.So I took it back today and
> > > the dealer replaced the plug, and in so doing also changed the oil. My
> > > question: they used 5W30. I usually use Syntec 10W30. I noticed the
> > > sticker and asked the guy, and he said they use 5W30 all the time in
> > > TJs. (Apparently they use air wrenches to change oil, too, so I don't
> > > trust their judgment) They're a Jeep dealer, mind you. I live in
> > > Virginia and it gets hotter than hell in the summer. Is this safe?
> > > Isn't 5W30 too thin? Or am I worrying about nothing? If it is too
> > > thin, is there an additive I can toss in instead of another changeout
> > > for the next 3,000? Thanks in advance.
> > >
> > > Matt
> >
> >
>
>
04-07-2004, 05:28 PM
#45
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 5 W 30, revisited
I have heard the same thing Jerry. 5/30 is too thin for warm temps, but it
makes a great option for cold climates. I have also heard that the
difference between the two numbers is am important consideration. If the
------ is too wide, then the oil becomes unstable and breaks down.
The Oil Weight Tables in my BMW, among others, seems to support the notion
that the 5W oils are ill suited for warm weather. These oils are recommended
for sustained temps (weather) like what would be found in Minnesota in
winter. I don't think that 5W oils are suitable for California, except they
might work well in the mountain regions during winter. I think that the 10W
oils, 10w30 and 10w40, can be used year around in almost all of California,
but if one wanted to switch to a winter weight oil, then the 5W oils are
fine.
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
news:4RMcc.2250$4K.1433@fed1read05...
> That's an old wive's tale 5W-30 is 30 weight when warmed up just like
10W-30
> is.
>
> Jerry
>
> --
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> N6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
> "Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message
> news:c501m60f20@enews3.newsguy.com...
> > Don't run 5w-30 in high temps. See the chart in your owners manual.
> >
> > "Matt" <mhammer8@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:3a3f4978.0404062031.45633962@posting.google.c om...
> > > I Googled this here and found lots of conflicting data, so let me tell
> > > the story:
> > >
> > > I got my 60,000 mile checkup done on my '99TJ 3 months ago at a
> > > dealer, with oil change included. Yesterday I went to change the oil
> > > and my drain plug had been crushed and totally stripped (the head, not
> > > the threads) apparently by an air wrench.So I took it back today and
> > > the dealer replaced the plug, and in so doing also changed the oil. My
> > > question: they used 5W30. I usually use Syntec 10W30. I noticed the
> > > sticker and asked the guy, and he said they use 5W30 all the time in
> > > TJs. (Apparently they use air wrenches to change oil, too, so I don't
> > > trust their judgment) They're a Jeep dealer, mind you. I live in
> > > Virginia and it gets hotter than hell in the summer. Is this safe?
> > > Isn't 5W30 too thin? Or am I worrying about nothing? If it is too
> > > thin, is there an additive I can toss in instead of another changeout
> > > for the next 3,000? Thanks in advance.
> > >
> > > Matt
> >
> >
>
>
makes a great option for cold climates. I have also heard that the
difference between the two numbers is am important consideration. If the
------ is too wide, then the oil becomes unstable and breaks down.
The Oil Weight Tables in my BMW, among others, seems to support the notion
that the 5W oils are ill suited for warm weather. These oils are recommended
for sustained temps (weather) like what would be found in Minnesota in
winter. I don't think that 5W oils are suitable for California, except they
might work well in the mountain regions during winter. I think that the 10W
oils, 10w30 and 10w40, can be used year around in almost all of California,
but if one wanted to switch to a winter weight oil, then the 5W oils are
fine.
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
news:4RMcc.2250$4K.1433@fed1read05...
> That's an old wive's tale 5W-30 is 30 weight when warmed up just like
10W-30
> is.
>
> Jerry
>
> --
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> N6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
> "Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message
> news:c501m60f20@enews3.newsguy.com...
> > Don't run 5w-30 in high temps. See the chart in your owners manual.
> >
> > "Matt" <mhammer8@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:3a3f4978.0404062031.45633962@posting.google.c om...
> > > I Googled this here and found lots of conflicting data, so let me tell
> > > the story:
> > >
> > > I got my 60,000 mile checkup done on my '99TJ 3 months ago at a
> > > dealer, with oil change included. Yesterday I went to change the oil
> > > and my drain plug had been crushed and totally stripped (the head, not
> > > the threads) apparently by an air wrench.So I took it back today and
> > > the dealer replaced the plug, and in so doing also changed the oil. My
> > > question: they used 5W30. I usually use Syntec 10W30. I noticed the
> > > sticker and asked the guy, and he said they use 5W30 all the time in
> > > TJs. (Apparently they use air wrenches to change oil, too, so I don't
> > > trust their judgment) They're a Jeep dealer, mind you. I live in
> > > Virginia and it gets hotter than hell in the summer. Is this safe?
> > > Isn't 5W30 too thin? Or am I worrying about nothing? If it is too
> > > thin, is there an additive I can toss in instead of another changeout
> > > for the next 3,000? Thanks in advance.
> > >
> > > Matt
> >
> >
>
>
04-07-2004, 06:15 PM
#46
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 5 W 30, revisited
Or hot.... Just better for cold.
30 is 30 when hot and that is what either oil is rated for at 100C.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
CRWLR wrote:
>
> 5W30 is OK for cold climates.
>
> "Matt" <mhammer8@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:3a3f4978.0404062031.45633962@posting.google.c om...
> > I Googled this here and found lots of conflicting data, so let me tell
> > the story:
> >
> > I got my 60,000 mile checkup done on my '99TJ 3 months ago at a
> > dealer, with oil change included. Yesterday I went to change the oil
> > and my drain plug had been crushed and totally stripped (the head, not
> > the threads) apparently by an air wrench.So I took it back today and
> > the dealer replaced the plug, and in so doing also changed the oil. My
> > question: they used 5W30. I usually use Syntec 10W30. I noticed the
> > sticker and asked the guy, and he said they use 5W30 all the time in
> > TJs. (Apparently they use air wrenches to change oil, too, so I don't
> > trust their judgment) They're a Jeep dealer, mind you. I live in
> > Virginia and it gets hotter than hell in the summer. Is this safe?
> > Isn't 5W30 too thin? Or am I worrying about nothing? If it is too
> > thin, is there an additive I can toss in instead of another changeout
> > for the next 3,000? Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Matt
30 is 30 when hot and that is what either oil is rated for at 100C.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
CRWLR wrote:
>
> 5W30 is OK for cold climates.
>
> "Matt" <mhammer8@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:3a3f4978.0404062031.45633962@posting.google.c om...
> > I Googled this here and found lots of conflicting data, so let me tell
> > the story:
> >
> > I got my 60,000 mile checkup done on my '99TJ 3 months ago at a
> > dealer, with oil change included. Yesterday I went to change the oil
> > and my drain plug had been crushed and totally stripped (the head, not
> > the threads) apparently by an air wrench.So I took it back today and
> > the dealer replaced the plug, and in so doing also changed the oil. My
> > question: they used 5W30. I usually use Syntec 10W30. I noticed the
> > sticker and asked the guy, and he said they use 5W30 all the time in
> > TJs. (Apparently they use air wrenches to change oil, too, so I don't
> > trust their judgment) They're a Jeep dealer, mind you. I live in
> > Virginia and it gets hotter than hell in the summer. Is this safe?
> > Isn't 5W30 too thin? Or am I worrying about nothing? If it is too
> > thin, is there an additive I can toss in instead of another changeout
> > for the next 3,000? Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Matt
04-07-2004, 06:15 PM
#47
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 5 W 30, revisited
Or hot.... Just better for cold.
30 is 30 when hot and that is what either oil is rated for at 100C.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
CRWLR wrote:
>
> 5W30 is OK for cold climates.
>
> "Matt" <mhammer8@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:3a3f4978.0404062031.45633962@posting.google.c om...
> > I Googled this here and found lots of conflicting data, so let me tell
> > the story:
> >
> > I got my 60,000 mile checkup done on my '99TJ 3 months ago at a
> > dealer, with oil change included. Yesterday I went to change the oil
> > and my drain plug had been crushed and totally stripped (the head, not
> > the threads) apparently by an air wrench.So I took it back today and
> > the dealer replaced the plug, and in so doing also changed the oil. My
> > question: they used 5W30. I usually use Syntec 10W30. I noticed the
> > sticker and asked the guy, and he said they use 5W30 all the time in
> > TJs. (Apparently they use air wrenches to change oil, too, so I don't
> > trust their judgment) They're a Jeep dealer, mind you. I live in
> > Virginia and it gets hotter than hell in the summer. Is this safe?
> > Isn't 5W30 too thin? Or am I worrying about nothing? If it is too
> > thin, is there an additive I can toss in instead of another changeout
> > for the next 3,000? Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Matt
30 is 30 when hot and that is what either oil is rated for at 100C.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
CRWLR wrote:
>
> 5W30 is OK for cold climates.
>
> "Matt" <mhammer8@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:3a3f4978.0404062031.45633962@posting.google.c om...
> > I Googled this here and found lots of conflicting data, so let me tell
> > the story:
> >
> > I got my 60,000 mile checkup done on my '99TJ 3 months ago at a
> > dealer, with oil change included. Yesterday I went to change the oil
> > and my drain plug had been crushed and totally stripped (the head, not
> > the threads) apparently by an air wrench.So I took it back today and
> > the dealer replaced the plug, and in so doing also changed the oil. My
> > question: they used 5W30. I usually use Syntec 10W30. I noticed the
> > sticker and asked the guy, and he said they use 5W30 all the time in
> > TJs. (Apparently they use air wrenches to change oil, too, so I don't
> > trust their judgment) They're a Jeep dealer, mind you. I live in
> > Virginia and it gets hotter than hell in the summer. Is this safe?
> > Isn't 5W30 too thin? Or am I worrying about nothing? If it is too
> > thin, is there an additive I can toss in instead of another changeout
> > for the next 3,000? Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Matt
04-07-2004, 06:15 PM
#48
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 5 W 30, revisited
Or hot.... Just better for cold.
30 is 30 when hot and that is what either oil is rated for at 100C.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
CRWLR wrote:
>
> 5W30 is OK for cold climates.
>
> "Matt" <mhammer8@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:3a3f4978.0404062031.45633962@posting.google.c om...
> > I Googled this here and found lots of conflicting data, so let me tell
> > the story:
> >
> > I got my 60,000 mile checkup done on my '99TJ 3 months ago at a
> > dealer, with oil change included. Yesterday I went to change the oil
> > and my drain plug had been crushed and totally stripped (the head, not
> > the threads) apparently by an air wrench.So I took it back today and
> > the dealer replaced the plug, and in so doing also changed the oil. My
> > question: they used 5W30. I usually use Syntec 10W30. I noticed the
> > sticker and asked the guy, and he said they use 5W30 all the time in
> > TJs. (Apparently they use air wrenches to change oil, too, so I don't
> > trust their judgment) They're a Jeep dealer, mind you. I live in
> > Virginia and it gets hotter than hell in the summer. Is this safe?
> > Isn't 5W30 too thin? Or am I worrying about nothing? If it is too
> > thin, is there an additive I can toss in instead of another changeout
> > for the next 3,000? Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Matt
30 is 30 when hot and that is what either oil is rated for at 100C.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
CRWLR wrote:
>
> 5W30 is OK for cold climates.
>
> "Matt" <mhammer8@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:3a3f4978.0404062031.45633962@posting.google.c om...
> > I Googled this here and found lots of conflicting data, so let me tell
> > the story:
> >
> > I got my 60,000 mile checkup done on my '99TJ 3 months ago at a
> > dealer, with oil change included. Yesterday I went to change the oil
> > and my drain plug had been crushed and totally stripped (the head, not
> > the threads) apparently by an air wrench.So I took it back today and
> > the dealer replaced the plug, and in so doing also changed the oil. My
> > question: they used 5W30. I usually use Syntec 10W30. I noticed the
> > sticker and asked the guy, and he said they use 5W30 all the time in
> > TJs. (Apparently they use air wrenches to change oil, too, so I don't
> > trust their judgment) They're a Jeep dealer, mind you. I live in
> > Virginia and it gets hotter than hell in the summer. Is this safe?
> > Isn't 5W30 too thin? Or am I worrying about nothing? If it is too
> > thin, is there an additive I can toss in instead of another changeout
> > for the next 3,000? Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Matt
04-07-2004, 06:15 PM
#49
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 5 W 30, revisited
Or hot.... Just better for cold.
30 is 30 when hot and that is what either oil is rated for at 100C.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
CRWLR wrote:
>
> 5W30 is OK for cold climates.
>
> "Matt" <mhammer8@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:3a3f4978.0404062031.45633962@posting.google.c om...
> > I Googled this here and found lots of conflicting data, so let me tell
> > the story:
> >
> > I got my 60,000 mile checkup done on my '99TJ 3 months ago at a
> > dealer, with oil change included. Yesterday I went to change the oil
> > and my drain plug had been crushed and totally stripped (the head, not
> > the threads) apparently by an air wrench.So I took it back today and
> > the dealer replaced the plug, and in so doing also changed the oil. My
> > question: they used 5W30. I usually use Syntec 10W30. I noticed the
> > sticker and asked the guy, and he said they use 5W30 all the time in
> > TJs. (Apparently they use air wrenches to change oil, too, so I don't
> > trust their judgment) They're a Jeep dealer, mind you. I live in
> > Virginia and it gets hotter than hell in the summer. Is this safe?
> > Isn't 5W30 too thin? Or am I worrying about nothing? If it is too
> > thin, is there an additive I can toss in instead of another changeout
> > for the next 3,000? Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Matt
30 is 30 when hot and that is what either oil is rated for at 100C.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
CRWLR wrote:
>
> 5W30 is OK for cold climates.
>
> "Matt" <mhammer8@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:3a3f4978.0404062031.45633962@posting.google.c om...
> > I Googled this here and found lots of conflicting data, so let me tell
> > the story:
> >
> > I got my 60,000 mile checkup done on my '99TJ 3 months ago at a
> > dealer, with oil change included. Yesterday I went to change the oil
> > and my drain plug had been crushed and totally stripped (the head, not
> > the threads) apparently by an air wrench.So I took it back today and
> > the dealer replaced the plug, and in so doing also changed the oil. My
> > question: they used 5W30. I usually use Syntec 10W30. I noticed the
> > sticker and asked the guy, and he said they use 5W30 all the time in
> > TJs. (Apparently they use air wrenches to change oil, too, so I don't
> > trust their judgment) They're a Jeep dealer, mind you. I live in
> > Virginia and it gets hotter than hell in the summer. Is this safe?
> > Isn't 5W30 too thin? Or am I worrying about nothing? If it is too
> > thin, is there an additive I can toss in instead of another changeout
> > for the next 3,000? Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Matt
04-07-2004, 07:32 PM
#50
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 5 W 30, revisited
From all that I have found, 10W30 is better for warm climates than 5W30.
5W30 is better for cold climates than 10W30.
I agree that 30 is 30, but apparently there is something with theformulation
that tends to cause changes.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40747D6D.84B59490@sympatico.ca...
> Or hot.... Just better for cold.
>
> 30 is 30 when hot and that is what either oil is rated for at 100C.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
>
> CRWLR wrote:
> >
> > 5W30 is OK for cold climates.
> >
> > "Matt" <mhammer8@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:3a3f4978.0404062031.45633962@posting.google.c om...
> > > I Googled this here and found lots of conflicting data, so let me tell
> > > the story:
> > >
> > > I got my 60,000 mile checkup done on my '99TJ 3 months ago at a
> > > dealer, with oil change included. Yesterday I went to change the oil
> > > and my drain plug had been crushed and totally stripped (the head, not
> > > the threads) apparently by an air wrench.So I took it back today and
> > > the dealer replaced the plug, and in so doing also changed the oil. My
> > > question: they used 5W30. I usually use Syntec 10W30. I noticed the
> > > sticker and asked the guy, and he said they use 5W30 all the time in
> > > TJs. (Apparently they use air wrenches to change oil, too, so I don't
> > > trust their judgment) They're a Jeep dealer, mind you. I live in
> > > Virginia and it gets hotter than hell in the summer. Is this safe?
> > > Isn't 5W30 too thin? Or am I worrying about nothing? If it is too
> > > thin, is there an additive I can toss in instead of another changeout
> > > for the next 3,000? Thanks in advance.
> > >
> > > Matt
5W30 is better for cold climates than 10W30.
I agree that 30 is 30, but apparently there is something with theformulation
that tends to cause changes.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40747D6D.84B59490@sympatico.ca...
> Or hot.... Just better for cold.
>
> 30 is 30 when hot and that is what either oil is rated for at 100C.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
>
> CRWLR wrote:
> >
> > 5W30 is OK for cold climates.
> >
> > "Matt" <mhammer8@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:3a3f4978.0404062031.45633962@posting.google.c om...
> > > I Googled this here and found lots of conflicting data, so let me tell
> > > the story:
> > >
> > > I got my 60,000 mile checkup done on my '99TJ 3 months ago at a
> > > dealer, with oil change included. Yesterday I went to change the oil
> > > and my drain plug had been crushed and totally stripped (the head, not
> > > the threads) apparently by an air wrench.So I took it back today and
> > > the dealer replaced the plug, and in so doing also changed the oil. My
> > > question: they used 5W30. I usually use Syntec 10W30. I noticed the
> > > sticker and asked the guy, and he said they use 5W30 all the time in
> > > TJs. (Apparently they use air wrenches to change oil, too, so I don't
> > > trust their judgment) They're a Jeep dealer, mind you. I live in
> > > Virginia and it gets hotter than hell in the summer. Is this safe?
> > > Isn't 5W30 too thin? Or am I worrying about nothing? If it is too
> > > thin, is there an additive I can toss in instead of another changeout
> > > for the next 3,000? Thanks in advance.
> > >
> > > Matt
