You need to talk to a lawyer.

Earle

"milton via CarKB.com" <u19588@uwe> wrote in message
news:5d24e5e545670@uwe...
> Peter Parker wrote:
> >>I recently had my 5 speed transmission rebuilt (unnecessarily, but that
is a
> >>story for another day). When I picked up the car ( 95 Cherokee) the shop
told
> >>me they had filled the gear box with 10W -30 motor oil. I pointed out
that
> >>the owners manual, and every other manual that I have seen, calls for
75-90
> >>weight gear grease, GL 5. The 10W-30 does not sound right to me. Any
input
> >>about this would be appreciated.
> >
> >Hmmm, sounds like they have been working on too many vintage Honda manual
> >transmissions. :-)
> >
> >I would do the 75-90 gear oil but not the GL5. I use Redline 75-90 GL4 I
> >think and that is friendly to the syncros.
> >
> >Good Luck...
> >
> >BTW what kind of wallet damage to have your 5 speed tranny rebuilt? I am
> >assuming it's an AX-15.
> >
> I am embrassed to say - 1500. As far as the type of transmission, all I
know
> is that it is a 5 speed standard and the car is a two wheel drive. I
think I
> got taken. The real problem was that the right side motor mount bracket
> broke causing the engine and transmission to be tilted to the right. As a
> result, I could not shift into 5th or reverse. There was a lot of
vibration
> that I thought was coming from the transmission. The guy at the shop said
it
> was the catalytic converter. I should have known better. I never even
looked
> at it until I put it on the rack at another shop to check the converter.
> That's when I noticed that something was wrong with the mount. How they
even
> got the transmission out of the car and back in is beyond me. I went back
to
> the shop and asked them how they missed the mount problem and they just
> stared at me. I think that the angle of engine and trans keep me from
being
> able to shift into 5th . After fixing the mount problem, it was almost
> impossible to shift into 1st and 2nd. I usually won't do something like
that
> without looking at the situation, but it had been a bad week already, and
my
> wife was hollering to do something about her car so it did. Well the old
> saying, act in haste, repent at leisure was sure true in my case. Where
> might I find the Redline transmission grease. I have never seen that
brand.
> Thanks for the info and for my chance to vent.
>
> --
> Message posted via http://www.carkb.com

 

Two things... 10W-30 motor oil is very close in viscosity to 75W-90 gear
lube so they weren't all that far off... even though it wasn't exactly
the correct "stuff". But your AX-15 transmission requires a GL-3 75W-90
so that's what I'd use. Redline MT-90 is about the best direct
replacement any of us have ever found which is available at either
www.redlineoil.com/ or www.summitracing.com/ Some early manuals said
GL-5 75W-90 but GL-5 was a typo... GL-3 (or GL-4) is what you want as
GL-5 has some sulphur-based additives that are hard on the gear
synchronizers.

Jerry

milton wrote:
> I recently had my 5 speed transmission rebuilt (unnecessarily, but that is a
> story for another day). When I picked up the car ( 95 Cherokee) the shop told
> me they had filled the gear box with 10W -30 motor oil. I pointed out that
> the owners manual, and every other manual that I have seen, calls for 75-90
> weight gear grease, GL 5. The 10W-30 does not sound right to me. Any input
> about this would be appreciated.

--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/

 

Two things... 10W-30 motor oil is very close in viscosity to 75W-90 gear
lube so they weren't all that far off... even though it wasn't exactly
the correct "stuff". But your AX-15 transmission requires a GL-3 75W-90
so that's what I'd use. Redline MT-90 is about the best direct
replacement any of us have ever found which is available at either
www.redlineoil.com/ or www.summitracing.com/ Some early manuals said
GL-5 75W-90 but GL-5 was a typo... GL-3 (or GL-4) is what you want as
GL-5 has some sulphur-based additives that are hard on the gear
synchronizers.

Jerry

milton wrote:
> I recently had my 5 speed transmission rebuilt (unnecessarily, but that is a
> story for another day). When I picked up the car ( 95 Cherokee) the shop told
> me they had filled the gear box with 10W -30 motor oil. I pointed out that
> the owners manual, and every other manual that I have seen, calls for 75-90
> weight gear grease, GL 5. The 10W-30 does not sound right to me. Any input
> about this would be appreciated.

--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/

 

Two things... 10W-30 motor oil is very close in viscosity to 75W-90 gear
lube so they weren't all that far off... even though it wasn't exactly
the correct "stuff". But your AX-15 transmission requires a GL-3 75W-90
so that's what I'd use. Redline MT-90 is about the best direct
replacement any of us have ever found which is available at either
www.redlineoil.com/ or www.summitracing.com/ Some early manuals said
GL-5 75W-90 but GL-5 was a typo... GL-3 (or GL-4) is what you want as
GL-5 has some sulphur-based additives that are hard on the gear
synchronizers.

Jerry

milton wrote:
> I recently had my 5 speed transmission rebuilt (unnecessarily, but that is a
> story for another day). When I picked up the car ( 95 Cherokee) the shop told
> me they had filled the gear box with 10W -30 motor oil. I pointed out that
> the owners manual, and every other manual that I have seen, calls for 75-90
> weight gear grease, GL 5. The 10W-30 does not sound right to me. Any input
> about this would be appreciated.

--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/

 

Two things... 10W-30 motor oil is very close in viscosity to 75W-90 gear
lube so they weren't all that far off... even though it wasn't exactly
the correct "stuff". But your AX-15 transmission requires a GL-3 75W-90
so that's what I'd use. Redline MT-90 is about the best direct
replacement any of us have ever found which is available at either
www.redlineoil.com/ or www.summitracing.com/ Some early manuals said
GL-5 75W-90 but GL-5 was a typo... GL-3 (or GL-4) is what you want as
GL-5 has some sulphur-based additives that are hard on the gear
synchronizers.

Jerry

milton wrote:
> I recently had my 5 speed transmission rebuilt (unnecessarily, but that is a
> story for another day). When I picked up the car ( 95 Cherokee) the shop told
> me they had filled the gear box with 10W -30 motor oil. I pointed out that
> the owners manual, and every other manual that I have seen, calls for 75-90
> weight gear grease, GL 5. The 10W-30 does not sound right to me. Any input
> about this would be appreciated.

--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/

 

10W30 may have similar viscosity to some synthetic gear lubes, but it does
not have nearly the shear strength.

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/oilshear.htm
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/states...brication.html

On the second link, scroll down to where it describes "Boundary
Lubrication". This should give you a good picture of what will happen when
you try to use motor oil in a gear lube application.

Earle

"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:iuXQf.12199$Uc2.11736@fed1read04...
> Two things... 10W-30 motor oil is very close in viscosity to 75W-90 gear
> lube so they weren't all that far off... even though it wasn't exactly
> the correct "stuff". But your AX-15 transmission requires a GL-3 75W-90
> so that's what I'd use. Redline MT-90 is about the best direct
> replacement any of us have ever found which is available at either
> www.redlineoil.com/ or www.summitracing.com/ Some early manuals said
> GL-5 75W-90 but GL-5 was a typo... GL-3 (or GL-4) is what you want as
> GL-5 has some sulphur-based additives that are hard on the gear
> synchronizers.
>
> Jerry
>
> milton wrote:
> > I recently had my 5 speed transmission rebuilt (unnecessarily, but that
is a
> > story for another day). When I picked up the car ( 95 Cherokee) the shop
told
> > me they had filled the gear box with 10W -30 motor oil. I pointed out
that
> > the owners manual, and every other manual that I have seen, calls for
75-90
> > weight gear grease, GL 5. The 10W-30 does not sound right to me. Any
input
> > about this would be appreciated.
>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/

 

10W30 may have similar viscosity to some synthetic gear lubes, but it does
not have nearly the shear strength.

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/oilshear.htm
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/states...brication.html

On the second link, scroll down to where it describes "Boundary
Lubrication". This should give you a good picture of what will happen when
you try to use motor oil in a gear lube application.

Earle

"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:iuXQf.12199$Uc2.11736@fed1read04...
> Two things... 10W-30 motor oil is very close in viscosity to 75W-90 gear
> lube so they weren't all that far off... even though it wasn't exactly
> the correct "stuff". But your AX-15 transmission requires a GL-3 75W-90
> so that's what I'd use. Redline MT-90 is about the best direct
> replacement any of us have ever found which is available at either
> www.redlineoil.com/ or www.summitracing.com/ Some early manuals said
> GL-5 75W-90 but GL-5 was a typo... GL-3 (or GL-4) is what you want as
> GL-5 has some sulphur-based additives that are hard on the gear
> synchronizers.
>
> Jerry
>
> milton wrote:
> > I recently had my 5 speed transmission rebuilt (unnecessarily, but that
is a
> > story for another day). When I picked up the car ( 95 Cherokee) the shop
told
> > me they had filled the gear box with 10W -30 motor oil. I pointed out
that
> > the owners manual, and every other manual that I have seen, calls for
75-90
> > weight gear grease, GL 5. The 10W-30 does not sound right to me. Any
input
> > about this would be appreciated.
>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/

 

10W30 may have similar viscosity to some synthetic gear lubes, but it does
not have nearly the shear strength.

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/oilshear.htm
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/states...brication.html

On the second link, scroll down to where it describes "Boundary
Lubrication". This should give you a good picture of what will happen when
you try to use motor oil in a gear lube application.

Earle

"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:iuXQf.12199$Uc2.11736@fed1read04...
> Two things... 10W-30 motor oil is very close in viscosity to 75W-90 gear
> lube so they weren't all that far off... even though it wasn't exactly
> the correct "stuff". But your AX-15 transmission requires a GL-3 75W-90
> so that's what I'd use. Redline MT-90 is about the best direct
> replacement any of us have ever found which is available at either
> www.redlineoil.com/ or www.summitracing.com/ Some early manuals said
> GL-5 75W-90 but GL-5 was a typo... GL-3 (or GL-4) is what you want as
> GL-5 has some sulphur-based additives that are hard on the gear
> synchronizers.
>
> Jerry
>
> milton wrote:
> > I recently had my 5 speed transmission rebuilt (unnecessarily, but that
is a
> > story for another day). When I picked up the car ( 95 Cherokee) the shop
told
> > me they had filled the gear box with 10W -30 motor oil. I pointed out
that
> > the owners manual, and every other manual that I have seen, calls for
75-90
> > weight gear grease, GL 5. The 10W-30 does not sound right to me. Any
input
> > about this would be appreciated.
>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/

 

10W30 may have similar viscosity to some synthetic gear lubes, but it does
not have nearly the shear strength.

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/oilshear.htm
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/states...brication.html

On the second link, scroll down to where it describes "Boundary
Lubrication". This should give you a good picture of what will happen when
you try to use motor oil in a gear lube application.

Earle

"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:iuXQf.12199$Uc2.11736@fed1read04...
> Two things... 10W-30 motor oil is very close in viscosity to 75W-90 gear
> lube so they weren't all that far off... even though it wasn't exactly
> the correct "stuff". But your AX-15 transmission requires a GL-3 75W-90
> so that's what I'd use. Redline MT-90 is about the best direct
> replacement any of us have ever found which is available at either
> www.redlineoil.com/ or www.summitracing.com/ Some early manuals said
> GL-5 75W-90 but GL-5 was a typo... GL-3 (or GL-4) is what you want as
> GL-5 has some sulphur-based additives that are hard on the gear
> synchronizers.
>
> Jerry
>
> milton wrote:
> > I recently had my 5 speed transmission rebuilt (unnecessarily, but that
is a
> > story for another day). When I picked up the car ( 95 Cherokee) the shop
told
> > me they had filled the gear box with 10W -30 motor oil. I pointed out
that
> > the owners manual, and every other manual that I have seen, calls for
75-90
> > weight gear grease, GL 5. The 10W-30 does not sound right to me. Any
input
> > about this would be appreciated.
>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/