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Re: 5 speed transmission grease
You need to talk to a lawyer.
Earle "milton via CarKB.com" <u19588@uwe> wrote in message news:5d24e5e545670@uwe... > Peter Parker wrote: > >>I recently had my 5 speed transmission rebuilt (unnecessarily, but that is a > >>story for another day). When I picked up the car ( 95 Cherokee) the shop told > >>me they had filled the gear box with 10W -30 motor oil. I pointed out that > >>the owners manual, and every other manual that I have seen, calls for 75-90 > >>weight gear grease, GL 5. The 10W-30 does not sound right to me. Any input > >>about this would be appreciated. > > > >Hmmm, sounds like they have been working on too many vintage Honda manual > >transmissions. :-) > > > >I would do the 75-90 gear oil but not the GL5. I use Redline 75-90 GL4 I > >think and that is friendly to the syncros. > > > >Good Luck... > > > >BTW what kind of wallet damage to have your 5 speed tranny rebuilt? I am > >assuming it's an AX-15. > > > I am embrassed to say - 1500. As far as the type of transmission, all I know > is that it is a 5 speed standard and the car is a two wheel drive. I think I > got taken. The real problem was that the right side motor mount bracket > broke causing the engine and transmission to be tilted to the right. As a > result, I could not shift into 5th or reverse. There was a lot of vibration > that I thought was coming from the transmission. The guy at the shop said it > was the catalytic converter. I should have known better. I never even looked > at it until I put it on the rack at another shop to check the converter. > That's when I noticed that something was wrong with the mount. How they even > got the transmission out of the car and back in is beyond me. I went back to > the shop and asked them how they missed the mount problem and they just > stared at me. I think that the angle of engine and trans keep me from being > able to shift into 5th . After fixing the mount problem, it was almost > impossible to shift into 1st and 2nd. I usually won't do something like that > without looking at the situation, but it had been a bad week already, and my > wife was hollering to do something about her car so it did. Well the old > saying, act in haste, repent at leisure was sure true in my case. Where > might I find the Redline transmission grease. I have never seen that brand. > Thanks for the info and for my chance to vent. > > -- > Message posted via http://www.carkb.com |
Re: 5 speed transmission grease
Two things... 10W-30 motor oil is very close in viscosity to 75W-90 gear
lube so they weren't all that far off... even though it wasn't exactly the correct "stuff". But your AX-15 transmission requires a GL-3 75W-90 so that's what I'd use. Redline MT-90 is about the best direct replacement any of us have ever found which is available at either www.redlineoil.com/ or www.summitracing.com/ Some early manuals said GL-5 75W-90 but GL-5 was a typo... GL-3 (or GL-4) is what you want as GL-5 has some sulphur-based additives that are hard on the gear synchronizers. Jerry milton wrote: > I recently had my 5 speed transmission rebuilt (unnecessarily, but that is a > story for another day). When I picked up the car ( 95 Cherokee) the shop told > me they had filled the gear box with 10W -30 motor oil. I pointed out that > the owners manual, and every other manual that I have seen, calls for 75-90 > weight gear grease, GL 5. The 10W-30 does not sound right to me. Any input > about this would be appreciated. -- Jerry Bransford PP-ASEL N6TAY See the Geezer Jeep at http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ |
Re: 5 speed transmission grease
Two things... 10W-30 motor oil is very close in viscosity to 75W-90 gear
lube so they weren't all that far off... even though it wasn't exactly the correct "stuff". But your AX-15 transmission requires a GL-3 75W-90 so that's what I'd use. Redline MT-90 is about the best direct replacement any of us have ever found which is available at either www.redlineoil.com/ or www.summitracing.com/ Some early manuals said GL-5 75W-90 but GL-5 was a typo... GL-3 (or GL-4) is what you want as GL-5 has some sulphur-based additives that are hard on the gear synchronizers. Jerry milton wrote: > I recently had my 5 speed transmission rebuilt (unnecessarily, but that is a > story for another day). When I picked up the car ( 95 Cherokee) the shop told > me they had filled the gear box with 10W -30 motor oil. I pointed out that > the owners manual, and every other manual that I have seen, calls for 75-90 > weight gear grease, GL 5. The 10W-30 does not sound right to me. Any input > about this would be appreciated. -- Jerry Bransford PP-ASEL N6TAY See the Geezer Jeep at http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ |
Re: 5 speed transmission grease
Two things... 10W-30 motor oil is very close in viscosity to 75W-90 gear
lube so they weren't all that far off... even though it wasn't exactly the correct "stuff". But your AX-15 transmission requires a GL-3 75W-90 so that's what I'd use. Redline MT-90 is about the best direct replacement any of us have ever found which is available at either www.redlineoil.com/ or www.summitracing.com/ Some early manuals said GL-5 75W-90 but GL-5 was a typo... GL-3 (or GL-4) is what you want as GL-5 has some sulphur-based additives that are hard on the gear synchronizers. Jerry milton wrote: > I recently had my 5 speed transmission rebuilt (unnecessarily, but that is a > story for another day). When I picked up the car ( 95 Cherokee) the shop told > me they had filled the gear box with 10W -30 motor oil. I pointed out that > the owners manual, and every other manual that I have seen, calls for 75-90 > weight gear grease, GL 5. The 10W-30 does not sound right to me. Any input > about this would be appreciated. -- Jerry Bransford PP-ASEL N6TAY See the Geezer Jeep at http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ |
Re: 5 speed transmission grease
Two things... 10W-30 motor oil is very close in viscosity to 75W-90 gear
lube so they weren't all that far off... even though it wasn't exactly the correct "stuff". But your AX-15 transmission requires a GL-3 75W-90 so that's what I'd use. Redline MT-90 is about the best direct replacement any of us have ever found which is available at either www.redlineoil.com/ or www.summitracing.com/ Some early manuals said GL-5 75W-90 but GL-5 was a typo... GL-3 (or GL-4) is what you want as GL-5 has some sulphur-based additives that are hard on the gear synchronizers. Jerry milton wrote: > I recently had my 5 speed transmission rebuilt (unnecessarily, but that is a > story for another day). When I picked up the car ( 95 Cherokee) the shop told > me they had filled the gear box with 10W -30 motor oil. I pointed out that > the owners manual, and every other manual that I have seen, calls for 75-90 > weight gear grease, GL 5. The 10W-30 does not sound right to me. Any input > about this would be appreciated. -- Jerry Bransford PP-ASEL N6TAY See the Geezer Jeep at http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ |
Re: 5 speed transmission grease
10W30 may have similar viscosity to some synthetic gear lubes, but it does
not have nearly the shear strength. http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/oilshear.htm http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/states...brication.html On the second link, scroll down to where it describes "Boundary Lubrication". This should give you a good picture of what will happen when you try to use motor oil in a gear lube application. Earle "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message news:iuXQf.12199$Uc2.11736@fed1read04... > Two things... 10W-30 motor oil is very close in viscosity to 75W-90 gear > lube so they weren't all that far off... even though it wasn't exactly > the correct "stuff". But your AX-15 transmission requires a GL-3 75W-90 > so that's what I'd use. Redline MT-90 is about the best direct > replacement any of us have ever found which is available at either > www.redlineoil.com/ or www.summitracing.com/ Some early manuals said > GL-5 75W-90 but GL-5 was a typo... GL-3 (or GL-4) is what you want as > GL-5 has some sulphur-based additives that are hard on the gear > synchronizers. > > Jerry > > milton wrote: > > I recently had my 5 speed transmission rebuilt (unnecessarily, but that is a > > story for another day). When I picked up the car ( 95 Cherokee) the shop told > > me they had filled the gear box with 10W -30 motor oil. I pointed out that > > the owners manual, and every other manual that I have seen, calls for 75-90 > > weight gear grease, GL 5. The 10W-30 does not sound right to me. Any input > > about this would be appreciated. > > -- > Jerry Bransford > PP-ASEL N6TAY > See the Geezer Jeep at > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ |
Re: 5 speed transmission grease
10W30 may have similar viscosity to some synthetic gear lubes, but it does
not have nearly the shear strength. http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/oilshear.htm http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/states...brication.html On the second link, scroll down to where it describes "Boundary Lubrication". This should give you a good picture of what will happen when you try to use motor oil in a gear lube application. Earle "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message news:iuXQf.12199$Uc2.11736@fed1read04... > Two things... 10W-30 motor oil is very close in viscosity to 75W-90 gear > lube so they weren't all that far off... even though it wasn't exactly > the correct "stuff". But your AX-15 transmission requires a GL-3 75W-90 > so that's what I'd use. Redline MT-90 is about the best direct > replacement any of us have ever found which is available at either > www.redlineoil.com/ or www.summitracing.com/ Some early manuals said > GL-5 75W-90 but GL-5 was a typo... GL-3 (or GL-4) is what you want as > GL-5 has some sulphur-based additives that are hard on the gear > synchronizers. > > Jerry > > milton wrote: > > I recently had my 5 speed transmission rebuilt (unnecessarily, but that is a > > story for another day). When I picked up the car ( 95 Cherokee) the shop told > > me they had filled the gear box with 10W -30 motor oil. I pointed out that > > the owners manual, and every other manual that I have seen, calls for 75-90 > > weight gear grease, GL 5. The 10W-30 does not sound right to me. Any input > > about this would be appreciated. > > -- > Jerry Bransford > PP-ASEL N6TAY > See the Geezer Jeep at > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ |
Re: 5 speed transmission grease
10W30 may have similar viscosity to some synthetic gear lubes, but it does
not have nearly the shear strength. http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/oilshear.htm http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/states...brication.html On the second link, scroll down to where it describes "Boundary Lubrication". This should give you a good picture of what will happen when you try to use motor oil in a gear lube application. Earle "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message news:iuXQf.12199$Uc2.11736@fed1read04... > Two things... 10W-30 motor oil is very close in viscosity to 75W-90 gear > lube so they weren't all that far off... even though it wasn't exactly > the correct "stuff". But your AX-15 transmission requires a GL-3 75W-90 > so that's what I'd use. Redline MT-90 is about the best direct > replacement any of us have ever found which is available at either > www.redlineoil.com/ or www.summitracing.com/ Some early manuals said > GL-5 75W-90 but GL-5 was a typo... GL-3 (or GL-4) is what you want as > GL-5 has some sulphur-based additives that are hard on the gear > synchronizers. > > Jerry > > milton wrote: > > I recently had my 5 speed transmission rebuilt (unnecessarily, but that is a > > story for another day). When I picked up the car ( 95 Cherokee) the shop told > > me they had filled the gear box with 10W -30 motor oil. I pointed out that > > the owners manual, and every other manual that I have seen, calls for 75-90 > > weight gear grease, GL 5. The 10W-30 does not sound right to me. Any input > > about this would be appreciated. > > -- > Jerry Bransford > PP-ASEL N6TAY > See the Geezer Jeep at > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ |
Re: 5 speed transmission grease
10W30 may have similar viscosity to some synthetic gear lubes, but it does
not have nearly the shear strength. http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/oilshear.htm http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/states...brication.html On the second link, scroll down to where it describes "Boundary Lubrication". This should give you a good picture of what will happen when you try to use motor oil in a gear lube application. Earle "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message news:iuXQf.12199$Uc2.11736@fed1read04... > Two things... 10W-30 motor oil is very close in viscosity to 75W-90 gear > lube so they weren't all that far off... even though it wasn't exactly > the correct "stuff". But your AX-15 transmission requires a GL-3 75W-90 > so that's what I'd use. Redline MT-90 is about the best direct > replacement any of us have ever found which is available at either > www.redlineoil.com/ or www.summitracing.com/ Some early manuals said > GL-5 75W-90 but GL-5 was a typo... GL-3 (or GL-4) is what you want as > GL-5 has some sulphur-based additives that are hard on the gear > synchronizers. > > Jerry > > milton wrote: > > I recently had my 5 speed transmission rebuilt (unnecessarily, but that is a > > story for another day). When I picked up the car ( 95 Cherokee) the shop told > > me they had filled the gear box with 10W -30 motor oil. I pointed out that > > the owners manual, and every other manual that I have seen, calls for 75-90 > > weight gear grease, GL 5. The 10W-30 does not sound right to me. Any input > > about this would be appreciated. > > -- > Jerry Bransford > PP-ASEL N6TAY > See the Geezer Jeep at > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ |
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