5 speed transmission grease
 

I recently had my 5 speed transmission rebuilt (unnecessarily, but that is a
story for another day). When I picked up the car ( 95 Cherokee) the shop told
me they had filled the gear box with 10W -30 motor oil. I pointed out that
the owners manual, and every other manual that I have seen, calls for 75-90
weight gear grease, GL 5. The 10W-30 does not sound right to me. Any input
about this would be appreciated.

Re: 5 speed transmission grease
 

I am going to go with the engineers who designed the transmission over the
guys who rebuilt a good transmission on this one and tell you to stick with
what the manual tells you.



"milton" <u19588@uwe> wrote in message news:5d1c54ccaa607@uwe...
>I recently had my 5 speed transmission rebuilt (unnecessarily, but that is
>a
> story for another day). When I picked up the car ( 95 Cherokee) the shop
> told
> me they had filled the gear box with 10W -30 motor oil. I pointed out
> that
> the owners manual, and every other manual that I have seen, calls for
> 75-90
> weight gear grease, GL 5. The 10W-30 does not sound right to me. Any
> input
> about this would be appreciated.

Re: 5 speed transmission grease
 

I am going to go with the engineers who designed the transmission over the
guys who rebuilt a good transmission on this one and tell you to stick with
what the manual tells you.



"milton" <u19588@uwe> wrote in message news:5d1c54ccaa607@uwe...
>I recently had my 5 speed transmission rebuilt (unnecessarily, but that is
>a
> story for another day). When I picked up the car ( 95 Cherokee) the shop
> told
> me they had filled the gear box with 10W -30 motor oil. I pointed out
> that
> the owners manual, and every other manual that I have seen, calls for
> 75-90
> weight gear grease, GL 5. The 10W-30 does not sound right to me. Any
> input
> about this would be appreciated.

Re: 5 speed transmission grease
 

I am going to go with the engineers who designed the transmission over the
guys who rebuilt a good transmission on this one and tell you to stick with
what the manual tells you.



"milton" <u19588@uwe> wrote in message news:5d1c54ccaa607@uwe...
>I recently had my 5 speed transmission rebuilt (unnecessarily, but that is
>a
> story for another day). When I picked up the car ( 95 Cherokee) the shop
> told
> me they had filled the gear box with 10W -30 motor oil. I pointed out
> that
> the owners manual, and every other manual that I have seen, calls for
> 75-90
> weight gear grease, GL 5. The 10W-30 does not sound right to me. Any
> input
> about this would be appreciated.

Re: 5 speed transmission grease
 

I am going to go with the engineers who designed the transmission over the
guys who rebuilt a good transmission on this one and tell you to stick with
what the manual tells you.



"milton" <u19588@uwe> wrote in message news:5d1c54ccaa607@uwe...
>I recently had my 5 speed transmission rebuilt (unnecessarily, but that is
>a
> story for another day). When I picked up the car ( 95 Cherokee) the shop
> told
> me they had filled the gear box with 10W -30 motor oil. I pointed out
> that
> the owners manual, and every other manual that I have seen, calls for
> 75-90
> weight gear grease, GL 5. The 10W-30 does not sound right to me. Any
> input
> about this would be appreciated.

Re: 5 speed transmission grease
 

Mine says 75W90 API GL5 too. Others in this newsgroup have said that there
are problems with GL5, because of sulfur. I don't know about that, but it
would be a mistake to put 10W30 in this transmission. It doesn't have the
"shear strength" that 75W90 does. Shear strength refers to the ability of a
lubricant to prevent direct metal-to-metal contact of lubricated parts.
Gears, shafts and bearings are all designed to ride on a film of gentle,
cushioning oil, not on each other.

Off the counter 75W90 lubricants will sometimes have limited slip additive
in them. This would bad for the synchromesh clutches in your transmission.
Jerry is going to take issue, but I have had good luck with Mobil 1 75W90
synthetic gear oil. Other people recommend Redline Manual Transmission
Fluid. Using the cheapest off the shelf formulation is false economy here,
considering what the transmission cost you.

Earle

"milton" <u19588@uwe> wrote in message news:5d1c54ccaa607@uwe...
> I recently had my 5 speed transmission rebuilt (unnecessarily, but that is
a
> story for another day). When I picked up the car ( 95 Cherokee) the shop
told
> me they had filled the gear box with 10W -30 motor oil. I pointed out
that
> the owners manual, and every other manual that I have seen, calls for
75-90
> weight gear grease, GL 5. The 10W-30 does not sound right to me. Any
input
> about this would be appreciated.

Re: 5 speed transmission grease
 

Mine says 75W90 API GL5 too. Others in this newsgroup have said that there
are problems with GL5, because of sulfur. I don't know about that, but it
would be a mistake to put 10W30 in this transmission. It doesn't have the
"shear strength" that 75W90 does. Shear strength refers to the ability of a
lubricant to prevent direct metal-to-metal contact of lubricated parts.
Gears, shafts and bearings are all designed to ride on a film of gentle,
cushioning oil, not on each other.

Off the counter 75W90 lubricants will sometimes have limited slip additive
in them. This would bad for the synchromesh clutches in your transmission.
Jerry is going to take issue, but I have had good luck with Mobil 1 75W90
synthetic gear oil. Other people recommend Redline Manual Transmission
Fluid. Using the cheapest off the shelf formulation is false economy here,
considering what the transmission cost you.

Earle

"milton" <u19588@uwe> wrote in message news:5d1c54ccaa607@uwe...
> I recently had my 5 speed transmission rebuilt (unnecessarily, but that is
a
> story for another day). When I picked up the car ( 95 Cherokee) the shop
told
> me they had filled the gear box with 10W -30 motor oil. I pointed out
that
> the owners manual, and every other manual that I have seen, calls for
75-90
> weight gear grease, GL 5. The 10W-30 does not sound right to me. Any
input
> about this would be appreciated.

Re: 5 speed transmission grease
 

Mine says 75W90 API GL5 too. Others in this newsgroup have said that there
are problems with GL5, because of sulfur. I don't know about that, but it
would be a mistake to put 10W30 in this transmission. It doesn't have the
"shear strength" that 75W90 does. Shear strength refers to the ability of a
lubricant to prevent direct metal-to-metal contact of lubricated parts.
Gears, shafts and bearings are all designed to ride on a film of gentle,
cushioning oil, not on each other.

Off the counter 75W90 lubricants will sometimes have limited slip additive
in them. This would bad for the synchromesh clutches in your transmission.
Jerry is going to take issue, but I have had good luck with Mobil 1 75W90
synthetic gear oil. Other people recommend Redline Manual Transmission
Fluid. Using the cheapest off the shelf formulation is false economy here,
considering what the transmission cost you.

Earle

"milton" <u19588@uwe> wrote in message news:5d1c54ccaa607@uwe...
> I recently had my 5 speed transmission rebuilt (unnecessarily, but that is
a
> story for another day). When I picked up the car ( 95 Cherokee) the shop
told
> me they had filled the gear box with 10W -30 motor oil. I pointed out
that
> the owners manual, and every other manual that I have seen, calls for
75-90
> weight gear grease, GL 5. The 10W-30 does not sound right to me. Any
input
> about this would be appreciated.

Re: 5 speed transmission grease
 

Mine says 75W90 API GL5 too. Others in this newsgroup have said that there
are problems with GL5, because of sulfur. I don't know about that, but it
would be a mistake to put 10W30 in this transmission. It doesn't have the
"shear strength" that 75W90 does. Shear strength refers to the ability of a
lubricant to prevent direct metal-to-metal contact of lubricated parts.
Gears, shafts and bearings are all designed to ride on a film of gentle,
cushioning oil, not on each other.

Off the counter 75W90 lubricants will sometimes have limited slip additive
in them. This would bad for the synchromesh clutches in your transmission.
Jerry is going to take issue, but I have had good luck with Mobil 1 75W90
synthetic gear oil. Other people recommend Redline Manual Transmission
Fluid. Using the cheapest off the shelf formulation is false economy here,
considering what the transmission cost you.

Earle

"milton" <u19588@uwe> wrote in message news:5d1c54ccaa607@uwe...
> I recently had my 5 speed transmission rebuilt (unnecessarily, but that is
a
> story for another day). When I picked up the car ( 95 Cherokee) the shop
told
> me they had filled the gear box with 10W -30 motor oil. I pointed out
that
> the owners manual, and every other manual that I have seen, calls for
75-90
> weight gear grease, GL 5. The 10W-30 does not sound right to me. Any
input
> about this would be appreciated.

Re: 5 speed transmission grease
 

In article <5d1c54ccaa607@uwe>, milton <u19588@uwe> wrote:
>I recently had my 5 speed transmission rebuilt (unnecessarily, but that is a
>story for another day). When I picked up the car ( 95 Cherokee) the shop told
>me they had filled the gear box with 10W -30 motor oil. I pointed out that
>the owners manual, and every other manual that I have seen, calls for 75-90
>weight gear grease, GL 5. The 10W-30 does not sound right to me. Any input
>about this would be appreciated.

Hmmm, sounds like they have been working on too many vintage Honda manual
transmissions. :-)

I would do the 75-90 gear oil but not the GL5. I use Redline 75-90 GL4 I
think and that is friendly to the syncros.

Good Luck...

BTW what kind of wallet damage to have your 5 speed tranny rebuilt? I am
assuming it's an AX-15.


--
Jeeps and dubs and everything's nice...

Re: 5 speed transmission grease
 

In article <5d1c54ccaa607@uwe>, milton <u19588@uwe> wrote:
>I recently had my 5 speed transmission rebuilt (unnecessarily, but that is a
>story for another day). When I picked up the car ( 95 Cherokee) the shop told
>me they had filled the gear box with 10W -30 motor oil. I pointed out that
>the owners manual, and every other manual that I have seen, calls for 75-90
>weight gear grease, GL 5. The 10W-30 does not sound right to me. Any input
>about this would be appreciated.

Hmmm, sounds like they have been working on too many vintage Honda manual
transmissions. :-)

I would do the 75-90 gear oil but not the GL5. I use Redline 75-90 GL4 I
think and that is friendly to the syncros.

Good Luck...

BTW what kind of wallet damage to have your 5 speed tranny rebuilt? I am
assuming it's an AX-15.


--
Jeeps and dubs and everything's nice...

Re: 5 speed transmission grease
 

In article <5d1c54ccaa607@uwe>, milton <u19588@uwe> wrote:
>I recently had my 5 speed transmission rebuilt (unnecessarily, but that is a
>story for another day). When I picked up the car ( 95 Cherokee) the shop told
>me they had filled the gear box with 10W -30 motor oil. I pointed out that
>the owners manual, and every other manual that I have seen, calls for 75-90
>weight gear grease, GL 5. The 10W-30 does not sound right to me. Any input
>about this would be appreciated.

Hmmm, sounds like they have been working on too many vintage Honda manual
transmissions. :-)

I would do the 75-90 gear oil but not the GL5. I use Redline 75-90 GL4 I
think and that is friendly to the syncros.

Good Luck...

BTW what kind of wallet damage to have your 5 speed tranny rebuilt? I am
assuming it's an AX-15.


--
Jeeps and dubs and everything's nice...

Re: 5 speed transmission grease
 

In article <5d1c54ccaa607@uwe>, milton <u19588@uwe> wrote:
>I recently had my 5 speed transmission rebuilt (unnecessarily, but that is a
>story for another day). When I picked up the car ( 95 Cherokee) the shop told
>me they had filled the gear box with 10W -30 motor oil. I pointed out that
>the owners manual, and every other manual that I have seen, calls for 75-90
>weight gear grease, GL 5. The 10W-30 does not sound right to me. Any input
>about this would be appreciated.

Hmmm, sounds like they have been working on too many vintage Honda manual
transmissions. :-)

I would do the 75-90 gear oil but not the GL5. I use Redline 75-90 GL4 I
think and that is friendly to the syncros.

Good Luck...

BTW what kind of wallet damage to have your 5 speed tranny rebuilt? I am
assuming it's an AX-15.


--
Jeeps and dubs and everything's nice...

Re: 5 speed transmission grease
 

Peter Parker wrote:
>>I recently had my 5 speed transmission rebuilt (unnecessarily, but that is a
>>story for another day). When I picked up the car ( 95 Cherokee) the shop told
>>me they had filled the gear box with 10W -30 motor oil. I pointed out that
>>the owners manual, and every other manual that I have seen, calls for 75-90
>>weight gear grease, GL 5. The 10W-30 does not sound right to me. Any input
>>about this would be appreciated.
>
>Hmmm, sounds like they have been working on too many vintage Honda manual
>transmissions. :-)
>
>I would do the 75-90 gear oil but not the GL5. I use Redline 75-90 GL4 I
>think and that is friendly to the syncros.
>
>Good Luck...
>
>BTW what kind of wallet damage to have your 5 speed tranny rebuilt? I am
>assuming it's an AX-15.
>
I am embrassed to say - 1500. As far as the type of transmission, all I know
is that it is a 5 speed standard and the car is a two wheel drive. I think I
got taken. The real problem was that the right side motor mount bracket
broke causing the engine and transmission to be tilted to the right. As a
result, I could not shift into 5th or reverse. There was a lot of vibration
that I thought was coming from the transmission. The guy at the shop said it
was the catalytic converter. I should have known better. I never even looked
at it until I put it on the rack at another shop to check the converter.
That's when I noticed that something was wrong with the mount. How they even
got the transmission out of the car and back in is beyond me. I went back to
the shop and asked them how they missed the mount problem and they just
stared at me. I think that the angle of engine and trans keep me from being
able to shift into 5th . After fixing the mount problem, it was almost
impossible to shift into 1st and 2nd. I usually won't do something like that
without looking at the situation, but it had been a bad week already, and my
wife was hollering to do something about her car so it did. Well the old
saying, act in haste, repent at leisure was sure true in my case. Where
might I find the Redline transmission grease. I have never seen that brand.
Thanks for the info and for my chance to vent.

--
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Re: 5 speed transmission grease
 

Peter Parker wrote:
>>I recently had my 5 speed transmission rebuilt (unnecessarily, but that is a
>>story for another day). When I picked up the car ( 95 Cherokee) the shop told
>>me they had filled the gear box with 10W -30 motor oil. I pointed out that
>>the owners manual, and every other manual that I have seen, calls for 75-90
>>weight gear grease, GL 5. The 10W-30 does not sound right to me. Any input
>>about this would be appreciated.
>
>Hmmm, sounds like they have been working on too many vintage Honda manual
>transmissions. :-)
>
>I would do the 75-90 gear oil but not the GL5. I use Redline 75-90 GL4 I
>think and that is friendly to the syncros.
>
>Good Luck...
>
>BTW what kind of wallet damage to have your 5 speed tranny rebuilt? I am
>assuming it's an AX-15.
>
I am embrassed to say - 1500. As far as the type of transmission, all I know
is that it is a 5 speed standard and the car is a two wheel drive. I think I
got taken. The real problem was that the right side motor mount bracket
broke causing the engine and transmission to be tilted to the right. As a
result, I could not shift into 5th or reverse. There was a lot of vibration
that I thought was coming from the transmission. The guy at the shop said it
was the catalytic converter. I should have known better. I never even looked
at it until I put it on the rack at another shop to check the converter.
That's when I noticed that something was wrong with the mount. How they even
got the transmission out of the car and back in is beyond me. I went back to
the shop and asked them how they missed the mount problem and they just
stared at me. I think that the angle of engine and trans keep me from being
able to shift into 5th . After fixing the mount problem, it was almost
impossible to shift into 1st and 2nd. I usually won't do something like that
without looking at the situation, but it had been a bad week already, and my
wife was hollering to do something about her car so it did. Well the old
saying, act in haste, repent at leisure was sure true in my case. Where
might I find the Redline transmission grease. I have never seen that brand.
Thanks for the info and for my chance to vent.

--
Message posted via http://www.carkb.com

Re: 5 speed transmission grease
 

Peter Parker wrote:
>>I recently had my 5 speed transmission rebuilt (unnecessarily, but that is a
>>story for another day). When I picked up the car ( 95 Cherokee) the shop told
>>me they had filled the gear box with 10W -30 motor oil. I pointed out that
>>the owners manual, and every other manual that I have seen, calls for 75-90
>>weight gear grease, GL 5. The 10W-30 does not sound right to me. Any input
>>about this would be appreciated.
>
>Hmmm, sounds like they have been working on too many vintage Honda manual
>transmissions. :-)
>
>I would do the 75-90 gear oil but not the GL5. I use Redline 75-90 GL4 I
>think and that is friendly to the syncros.
>
>Good Luck...
>
>BTW what kind of wallet damage to have your 5 speed tranny rebuilt? I am
>assuming it's an AX-15.
>
I am embrassed to say - 1500. As far as the type of transmission, all I know
is that it is a 5 speed standard and the car is a two wheel drive. I think I
got taken. The real problem was that the right side motor mount bracket
broke causing the engine and transmission to be tilted to the right. As a
result, I could not shift into 5th or reverse. There was a lot of vibration
that I thought was coming from the transmission. The guy at the shop said it
was the catalytic converter. I should have known better. I never even looked
at it until I put it on the rack at another shop to check the converter.
That's when I noticed that something was wrong with the mount. How they even
got the transmission out of the car and back in is beyond me. I went back to
the shop and asked them how they missed the mount problem and they just
stared at me. I think that the angle of engine and trans keep me from being
able to shift into 5th . After fixing the mount problem, it was almost
impossible to shift into 1st and 2nd. I usually won't do something like that
without looking at the situation, but it had been a bad week already, and my
wife was hollering to do something about her car so it did. Well the old
saying, act in haste, repent at leisure was sure true in my case. Where
might I find the Redline transmission grease. I have never seen that brand.
Thanks for the info and for my chance to vent.

--
Message posted via http://www.carkb.com

Re: 5 speed transmission grease
 

Peter Parker wrote:
>>I recently had my 5 speed transmission rebuilt (unnecessarily, but that is a
>>story for another day). When I picked up the car ( 95 Cherokee) the shop told
>>me they had filled the gear box with 10W -30 motor oil. I pointed out that
>>the owners manual, and every other manual that I have seen, calls for 75-90
>>weight gear grease, GL 5. The 10W-30 does not sound right to me. Any input
>>about this would be appreciated.
>
>Hmmm, sounds like they have been working on too many vintage Honda manual
>transmissions. :-)
>
>I would do the 75-90 gear oil but not the GL5. I use Redline 75-90 GL4 I
>think and that is friendly to the syncros.
>
>Good Luck...
>
>BTW what kind of wallet damage to have your 5 speed tranny rebuilt? I am
>assuming it's an AX-15.
>
I am embrassed to say - 1500. As far as the type of transmission, all I know
is that it is a 5 speed standard and the car is a two wheel drive. I think I
got taken. The real problem was that the right side motor mount bracket
broke causing the engine and transmission to be tilted to the right. As a
result, I could not shift into 5th or reverse. There was a lot of vibration
that I thought was coming from the transmission. The guy at the shop said it
was the catalytic converter. I should have known better. I never even looked
at it until I put it on the rack at another shop to check the converter.
That's when I noticed that something was wrong with the mount. How they even
got the transmission out of the car and back in is beyond me. I went back to
the shop and asked them how they missed the mount problem and they just
stared at me. I think that the angle of engine and trans keep me from being
able to shift into 5th . After fixing the mount problem, it was almost
impossible to shift into 1st and 2nd. I usually won't do something like that
without looking at the situation, but it had been a bad week already, and my
wife was hollering to do something about her car so it did. Well the old
saying, act in haste, repent at leisure was sure true in my case. Where
might I find the Redline transmission grease. I have never seen that brand.
Thanks for the info and for my chance to vent.

--
Message posted via http://www.carkb.com

Re: 5 speed transmission grease
 

You need to talk to a lawyer.

Earle

"milton via CarKB.com" <u19588@uwe> wrote in message
news:5d24e5e545670@uwe...
> Peter Parker wrote:
> >>I recently had my 5 speed transmission rebuilt (unnecessarily, but that
is a
> >>story for another day). When I picked up the car ( 95 Cherokee) the shop
told
> >>me they had filled the gear box with 10W -30 motor oil. I pointed out
that
> >>the owners manual, and every other manual that I have seen, calls for
75-90
> >>weight gear grease, GL 5. The 10W-30 does not sound right to me. Any
input
> >>about this would be appreciated.
> >
> >Hmmm, sounds like they have been working on too many vintage Honda manual
> >transmissions. :-)
> >
> >I would do the 75-90 gear oil but not the GL5. I use Redline 75-90 GL4 I
> >think and that is friendly to the syncros.
> >
> >Good Luck...
> >
> >BTW what kind of wallet damage to have your 5 speed tranny rebuilt? I am
> >assuming it's an AX-15.
> >
> I am embrassed to say - 1500. As far as the type of transmission, all I
know
> is that it is a 5 speed standard and the car is a two wheel drive. I
think I
> got taken. The real problem was that the right side motor mount bracket
> broke causing the engine and transmission to be tilted to the right. As a
> result, I could not shift into 5th or reverse. There was a lot of
vibration
> that I thought was coming from the transmission. The guy at the shop said
it
> was the catalytic converter. I should have known better. I never even
looked
> at it until I put it on the rack at another shop to check the converter.
> That's when I noticed that something was wrong with the mount. How they
even
> got the transmission out of the car and back in is beyond me. I went back
to
> the shop and asked them how they missed the mount problem and they just
> stared at me. I think that the angle of engine and trans keep me from
being
> able to shift into 5th . After fixing the mount problem, it was almost
> impossible to shift into 1st and 2nd. I usually won't do something like
that
> without looking at the situation, but it had been a bad week already, and
my
> wife was hollering to do something about her car so it did. Well the old
> saying, act in haste, repent at leisure was sure true in my case. Where
> might I find the Redline transmission grease. I have never seen that
brand.
> Thanks for the info and for my chance to vent.
>
> --
> Message posted via http://www.carkb.com

Re: 5 speed transmission grease
 

You need to talk to a lawyer.

Earle

"milton via CarKB.com" <u19588@uwe> wrote in message
news:5d24e5e545670@uwe...
> Peter Parker wrote:
> >>I recently had my 5 speed transmission rebuilt (unnecessarily, but that
is a
> >>story for another day). When I picked up the car ( 95 Cherokee) the shop
told
> >>me they had filled the gear box with 10W -30 motor oil. I pointed out
that
> >>the owners manual, and every other manual that I have seen, calls for
75-90
> >>weight gear grease, GL 5. The 10W-30 does not sound right to me. Any
input
> >>about this would be appreciated.
> >
> >Hmmm, sounds like they have been working on too many vintage Honda manual
> >transmissions. :-)
> >
> >I would do the 75-90 gear oil but not the GL5. I use Redline 75-90 GL4 I
> >think and that is friendly to the syncros.
> >
> >Good Luck...
> >
> >BTW what kind of wallet damage to have your 5 speed tranny rebuilt? I am
> >assuming it's an AX-15.
> >
> I am embrassed to say - 1500. As far as the type of transmission, all I
know
> is that it is a 5 speed standard and the car is a two wheel drive. I
think I
> got taken. The real problem was that the right side motor mount bracket
> broke causing the engine and transmission to be tilted to the right. As a
> result, I could not shift into 5th or reverse. There was a lot of
vibration
> that I thought was coming from the transmission. The guy at the shop said
it
> was the catalytic converter. I should have known better. I never even
looked
> at it until I put it on the rack at another shop to check the converter.
> That's when I noticed that something was wrong with the mount. How they
even
> got the transmission out of the car and back in is beyond me. I went back
to
> the shop and asked them how they missed the mount problem and they just
> stared at me. I think that the angle of engine and trans keep me from
being
> able to shift into 5th . After fixing the mount problem, it was almost
> impossible to shift into 1st and 2nd. I usually won't do something like
that
> without looking at the situation, but it had been a bad week already, and
my
> wife was hollering to do something about her car so it did. Well the old
> saying, act in haste, repent at leisure was sure true in my case. Where
> might I find the Redline transmission grease. I have never seen that
brand.
> Thanks for the info and for my chance to vent.
>
> --
> Message posted via http://www.carkb.com

Re: 5 speed transmission grease
 

You need to talk to a lawyer.

Earle

"milton via CarKB.com" <u19588@uwe> wrote in message
news:5d24e5e545670@uwe...
> Peter Parker wrote:
> >>I recently had my 5 speed transmission rebuilt (unnecessarily, but that
is a
> >>story for another day). When I picked up the car ( 95 Cherokee) the shop
told
> >>me they had filled the gear box with 10W -30 motor oil. I pointed out
that
> >>the owners manual, and every other manual that I have seen, calls for
75-90
> >>weight gear grease, GL 5. The 10W-30 does not sound right to me. Any
input
> >>about this would be appreciated.
> >
> >Hmmm, sounds like they have been working on too many vintage Honda manual
> >transmissions. :-)
> >
> >I would do the 75-90 gear oil but not the GL5. I use Redline 75-90 GL4 I
> >think and that is friendly to the syncros.
> >
> >Good Luck...
> >
> >BTW what kind of wallet damage to have your 5 speed tranny rebuilt? I am
> >assuming it's an AX-15.
> >
> I am embrassed to say - 1500. As far as the type of transmission, all I
know
> is that it is a 5 speed standard and the car is a two wheel drive. I
think I
> got taken. The real problem was that the right side motor mount bracket
> broke causing the engine and transmission to be tilted to the right. As a
> result, I could not shift into 5th or reverse. There was a lot of
vibration
> that I thought was coming from the transmission. The guy at the shop said
it
> was the catalytic converter. I should have known better. I never even
looked
> at it until I put it on the rack at another shop to check the converter.
> That's when I noticed that something was wrong with the mount. How they
even
> got the transmission out of the car and back in is beyond me. I went back
to
> the shop and asked them how they missed the mount problem and they just
> stared at me. I think that the angle of engine and trans keep me from
being
> able to shift into 5th . After fixing the mount problem, it was almost
> impossible to shift into 1st and 2nd. I usually won't do something like
that
> without looking at the situation, but it had been a bad week already, and
my
> wife was hollering to do something about her car so it did. Well the old
> saying, act in haste, repent at leisure was sure true in my case. Where
> might I find the Redline transmission grease. I have never seen that
brand.
> Thanks for the info and for my chance to vent.
>
> --
> Message posted via http://www.carkb.com

Re: 5 speed transmission grease
 

You need to talk to a lawyer.

Earle

"milton via CarKB.com" <u19588@uwe> wrote in message
news:5d24e5e545670@uwe...
> Peter Parker wrote:
> >>I recently had my 5 speed transmission rebuilt (unnecessarily, but that
is a
> >>story for another day). When I picked up the car ( 95 Cherokee) the shop
told
> >>me they had filled the gear box with 10W -30 motor oil. I pointed out
that
> >>the owners manual, and every other manual that I have seen, calls for
75-90
> >>weight gear grease, GL 5. The 10W-30 does not sound right to me. Any
input
> >>about this would be appreciated.
> >
> >Hmmm, sounds like they have been working on too many vintage Honda manual
> >transmissions. :-)
> >
> >I would do the 75-90 gear oil but not the GL5. I use Redline 75-90 GL4 I
> >think and that is friendly to the syncros.
> >
> >Good Luck...
> >
> >BTW what kind of wallet damage to have your 5 speed tranny rebuilt? I am
> >assuming it's an AX-15.
> >
> I am embrassed to say - 1500. As far as the type of transmission, all I
know
> is that it is a 5 speed standard and the car is a two wheel drive. I
think I
> got taken. The real problem was that the right side motor mount bracket
> broke causing the engine and transmission to be tilted to the right. As a
> result, I could not shift into 5th or reverse. There was a lot of
vibration
> that I thought was coming from the transmission. The guy at the shop said
it
> was the catalytic converter. I should have known better. I never even
looked
> at it until I put it on the rack at another shop to check the converter.
> That's when I noticed that something was wrong with the mount. How they
even
> got the transmission out of the car and back in is beyond me. I went back
to
> the shop and asked them how they missed the mount problem and they just
> stared at me. I think that the angle of engine and trans keep me from
being
> able to shift into 5th . After fixing the mount problem, it was almost
> impossible to shift into 1st and 2nd. I usually won't do something like
that
> without looking at the situation, but it had been a bad week already, and
my
> wife was hollering to do something about her car so it did. Well the old
> saying, act in haste, repent at leisure was sure true in my case. Where
> might I find the Redline transmission grease. I have never seen that
brand.
> Thanks for the info and for my chance to vent.
>
> --
> Message posted via http://www.carkb.com

Re: 5 speed transmission grease
 

Two things... 10W-30 motor oil is very close in viscosity to 75W-90 gear
lube so they weren't all that far off... even though it wasn't exactly
the correct "stuff". But your AX-15 transmission requires a GL-3 75W-90
so that's what I'd use. Redline MT-90 is about the best direct
replacement any of us have ever found which is available at either
www.redlineoil.com/ or www.summitracing.com/ Some early manuals said
GL-5 75W-90 but GL-5 was a typo... GL-3 (or GL-4) is what you want as
GL-5 has some sulphur-based additives that are hard on the gear
synchronizers.

Jerry

milton wrote:
> I recently had my 5 speed transmission rebuilt (unnecessarily, but that is a
> story for another day). When I picked up the car ( 95 Cherokee) the shop told
> me they had filled the gear box with 10W -30 motor oil. I pointed out that
> the owners manual, and every other manual that I have seen, calls for 75-90
> weight gear grease, GL 5. The 10W-30 does not sound right to me. Any input
> about this would be appreciated.

--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

Re: 5 speed transmission grease
 

Two things... 10W-30 motor oil is very close in viscosity to 75W-90 gear
lube so they weren't all that far off... even though it wasn't exactly
the correct "stuff". But your AX-15 transmission requires a GL-3 75W-90
so that's what I'd use. Redline MT-90 is about the best direct
replacement any of us have ever found which is available at either
www.redlineoil.com/ or www.summitracing.com/ Some early manuals said
GL-5 75W-90 but GL-5 was a typo... GL-3 (or GL-4) is what you want as
GL-5 has some sulphur-based additives that are hard on the gear
synchronizers.

Jerry

milton wrote:
> I recently had my 5 speed transmission rebuilt (unnecessarily, but that is a
> story for another day). When I picked up the car ( 95 Cherokee) the shop told
> me they had filled the gear box with 10W -30 motor oil. I pointed out that
> the owners manual, and every other manual that I have seen, calls for 75-90
> weight gear grease, GL 5. The 10W-30 does not sound right to me. Any input
> about this would be appreciated.

--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

Re: 5 speed transmission grease
 

Two things... 10W-30 motor oil is very close in viscosity to 75W-90 gear
lube so they weren't all that far off... even though it wasn't exactly
the correct "stuff". But your AX-15 transmission requires a GL-3 75W-90
so that's what I'd use. Redline MT-90 is about the best direct
replacement any of us have ever found which is available at either
www.redlineoil.com/ or www.summitracing.com/ Some early manuals said
GL-5 75W-90 but GL-5 was a typo... GL-3 (or GL-4) is what you want as
GL-5 has some sulphur-based additives that are hard on the gear
synchronizers.

Jerry

milton wrote:
> I recently had my 5 speed transmission rebuilt (unnecessarily, but that is a
> story for another day). When I picked up the car ( 95 Cherokee) the shop told
> me they had filled the gear box with 10W -30 motor oil. I pointed out that
> the owners manual, and every other manual that I have seen, calls for 75-90
> weight gear grease, GL 5. The 10W-30 does not sound right to me. Any input
> about this would be appreciated.

--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

Re: 5 speed transmission grease
 

Two things... 10W-30 motor oil is very close in viscosity to 75W-90 gear
lube so they weren't all that far off... even though it wasn't exactly
the correct "stuff". But your AX-15 transmission requires a GL-3 75W-90
so that's what I'd use. Redline MT-90 is about the best direct
replacement any of us have ever found which is available at either
www.redlineoil.com/ or www.summitracing.com/ Some early manuals said
GL-5 75W-90 but GL-5 was a typo... GL-3 (or GL-4) is what you want as
GL-5 has some sulphur-based additives that are hard on the gear
synchronizers.

Jerry

milton wrote:
> I recently had my 5 speed transmission rebuilt (unnecessarily, but that is a
> story for another day). When I picked up the car ( 95 Cherokee) the shop told
> me they had filled the gear box with 10W -30 motor oil. I pointed out that
> the owners manual, and every other manual that I have seen, calls for 75-90
> weight gear grease, GL 5. The 10W-30 does not sound right to me. Any input
> about this would be appreciated.

--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

Re: 5 speed transmission grease
 

10W30 may have similar viscosity to some synthetic gear lubes, but it does
not have nearly the shear strength.

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/oilshear.htm
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/states...brication.html

On the second link, scroll down to where it describes "Boundary
Lubrication". This should give you a good picture of what will happen when
you try to use motor oil in a gear lube application.

Earle

"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message
news:iuXQf.12199$Uc2.11736@fed1read04...
> Two things... 10W-30 motor oil is very close in viscosity to 75W-90 gear
> lube so they weren't all that far off... even though it wasn't exactly
> the correct "stuff". But your AX-15 transmission requires a GL-3 75W-90
> so that's what I'd use. Redline MT-90 is about the best direct
> replacement any of us have ever found which is available at either
> www.redlineoil.com/ or www.summitracing.com/ Some early manuals said
> GL-5 75W-90 but GL-5 was a typo... GL-3 (or GL-4) is what you want as
> GL-5 has some sulphur-based additives that are hard on the gear
> synchronizers.
>
> Jerry
>
> milton wrote:
> > I recently had my 5 speed transmission rebuilt (unnecessarily, but that
is a
> > story for another day). When I picked up the car ( 95 Cherokee) the shop
told
> > me they had filled the gear box with 10W -30 motor oil. I pointed out
that
> > the owners manual, and every other manual that I have seen, calls for
75-90
> > weight gear grease, GL 5. The 10W-30 does not sound right to me. Any
input
> > about this would be appreciated.
>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

Re: 5 speed transmission grease
 

10W30 may have similar viscosity to some synthetic gear lubes, but it does
not have nearly the shear strength.

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/oilshear.htm
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/states...brication.html

On the second link, scroll down to where it describes "Boundary
Lubrication". This should give you a good picture of what will happen when
you try to use motor oil in a gear lube application.

Earle

"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message
news:iuXQf.12199$Uc2.11736@fed1read04...
> Two things... 10W-30 motor oil is very close in viscosity to 75W-90 gear
> lube so they weren't all that far off... even though it wasn't exactly
> the correct "stuff". But your AX-15 transmission requires a GL-3 75W-90
> so that's what I'd use. Redline MT-90 is about the best direct
> replacement any of us have ever found which is available at either
> www.redlineoil.com/ or www.summitracing.com/ Some early manuals said
> GL-5 75W-90 but GL-5 was a typo... GL-3 (or GL-4) is what you want as
> GL-5 has some sulphur-based additives that are hard on the gear
> synchronizers.
>
> Jerry
>
> milton wrote:
> > I recently had my 5 speed transmission rebuilt (unnecessarily, but that
is a
> > story for another day). When I picked up the car ( 95 Cherokee) the shop
told
> > me they had filled the gear box with 10W -30 motor oil. I pointed out
that
> > the owners manual, and every other manual that I have seen, calls for
75-90
> > weight gear grease, GL 5. The 10W-30 does not sound right to me. Any
input
> > about this would be appreciated.
>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

Re: 5 speed transmission grease
 

10W30 may have similar viscosity to some synthetic gear lubes, but it does
not have nearly the shear strength.

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/oilshear.htm
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/states...brication.html

On the second link, scroll down to where it describes "Boundary
Lubrication". This should give you a good picture of what will happen when
you try to use motor oil in a gear lube application.

Earle

"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message
news:iuXQf.12199$Uc2.11736@fed1read04...
> Two things... 10W-30 motor oil is very close in viscosity to 75W-90 gear
> lube so they weren't all that far off... even though it wasn't exactly
> the correct "stuff". But your AX-15 transmission requires a GL-3 75W-90
> so that's what I'd use. Redline MT-90 is about the best direct
> replacement any of us have ever found which is available at either
> www.redlineoil.com/ or www.summitracing.com/ Some early manuals said
> GL-5 75W-90 but GL-5 was a typo... GL-3 (or GL-4) is what you want as
> GL-5 has some sulphur-based additives that are hard on the gear
> synchronizers.
>
> Jerry
>
> milton wrote:
> > I recently had my 5 speed transmission rebuilt (unnecessarily, but that
is a
> > story for another day). When I picked up the car ( 95 Cherokee) the shop
told
> > me they had filled the gear box with 10W -30 motor oil. I pointed out
that
> > the owners manual, and every other manual that I have seen, calls for
75-90
> > weight gear grease, GL 5. The 10W-30 does not sound right to me. Any
input
> > about this would be appreciated.
>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

Re: 5 speed transmission grease
 

10W30 may have similar viscosity to some synthetic gear lubes, but it does
not have nearly the shear strength.

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/oilshear.htm
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/states...brication.html

On the second link, scroll down to where it describes "Boundary
Lubrication". This should give you a good picture of what will happen when
you try to use motor oil in a gear lube application.

Earle

"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message
news:iuXQf.12199$Uc2.11736@fed1read04...
> Two things... 10W-30 motor oil is very close in viscosity to 75W-90 gear
> lube so they weren't all that far off... even though it wasn't exactly
> the correct "stuff". But your AX-15 transmission requires a GL-3 75W-90
> so that's what I'd use. Redline MT-90 is about the best direct
> replacement any of us have ever found which is available at either
> www.redlineoil.com/ or www.summitracing.com/ Some early manuals said
> GL-5 75W-90 but GL-5 was a typo... GL-3 (or GL-4) is what you want as
> GL-5 has some sulphur-based additives that are hard on the gear
> synchronizers.
>
> Jerry
>
> milton wrote:
> > I recently had my 5 speed transmission rebuilt (unnecessarily, but that
is a
> > story for another day). When I picked up the car ( 95 Cherokee) the shop
told
> > me they had filled the gear box with 10W -30 motor oil. I pointed out
that
> > the owners manual, and every other manual that I have seen, calls for
75-90
> > weight gear grease, GL 5. The 10W-30 does not sound right to me. Any
input
> > about this would be appreciated.
>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/