4WD part-time light question
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Re: 4WD part-time light question
my 88 non disconnect has a switch in the tcase that makes the light work. It
also has a hard time in 4wd part time. full time works, low works but part
time 4wd is iffy for the light even though it shifts well.
KH
"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
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> AFAIK there isn't a transfer case vacuum switch on the 93 XJ: that year
> there was no vacuum disconnect on the front axle.
>
> That said, the part-time light didn't work on my '93 XJ either, and I was
> able to determine that the bulb was fine...so it was either in the wiring
> to
> the transfer case or (most likely) the electrical switch in the transfer
> case. I didn't think it was serious enough to mess with unless I had to
> take
> the t-case apart for some reason.
>
> "RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
> news:VRwsd.1729$yr1.597@newsread3.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
>
>>
>> You can check the operation by starting the beast up, pull the vac plug
>> on the front axle and checking for a mild vac on one of the lines. Then
>> shift to 4wd, the vac should switch to the other line. No vac on either
>> says the line to the transfer case switch is bad. Not switching says the
>> transfer case switch itself is bad. Vac on one direction, not the other
>> says the vac harness is bad. Proper switching but no 4wd says the
>> diaphram is bad or the shift dog is stuck.
>>
>> Snow wrote:
>> > Where would I find the switch, I haven't looked yet, or is it quite
>> > easy
> to
>> > see?
>> >
>> > Snow...
>> >
>> > "RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
>> > news:Dknsd.1124$0r.90@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink .net...
>> >
>> >>Check the connection on the axle before pulling the dash off to get at
>> >>the bulbs. Put it in 4wd, move forward and backward a few feet to help
>> >>drop it in, see if the swich reads close to zero ohms. then see if the
>> >>connector is any good.
>> >>
>> >>Snow wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>Yeah I'm pretty sure it went fully into 4 high, I turned 4 corners 2
> of
>> >>>them slippery the other 2 were dry. I wasn't going fast and the 2
>> >
>> > corners
>> >
>> >>>that were dry I could feel the front wheels do the "hop" they do when
> in
>> >
>> > 4wd
>> >
>> >>>on a dry surface. I used to park in an semi underground parking lot,
> or
>> >>>rather had to drive through one to get to my parking spot and needed
> 4wd
>> >>>before I entered and after I exited to get into my spot (had turn a
>> >
>> > couple
>> >
>> >>>corners and the front would hop if it was in 4wd). I haven't
>> >>>checked
>> >
>> > the
>> >
>> >>>bulb yet, I'll do that tomorrow when I get home from work.
>> >>>
>> >>>Snow...
>> >>>
>> >>>"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
>> >>>news:u1ksd.1101$yr1.34@newsread3.news.pas.earth link.net...
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>>The older YJ's and XJ's had a vacumn switch sitting up on the
> firewall,
>> >>>>right next to the battery. Switch cuts in only after the front axle
>> >>>>is
>> >>>>locked. Newer models have the switch as an intergal part of the
> diaphram
>> >>>>on the front axle. Cutover was '91 on the YJ, a year or so earlier on
>> >>>>the XJ. You can easily check which you have: old units have 3 vac
> ports
>> >>>>on the axle, newer ones have 2 vac ports and a wire terminal.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Did you actually get inot 4wd? Keep in mind that your transfer case
> can
>> >>>>switch into 4WD, your axle may not have made it. The light does not
> come
>> >>>>on until it is locked. Usual problem is bad vac harnes, next is the
> vac
>> >>>>switch on the tranny. Or just the usual assortment of bad wire,
>> >>>>bunred
>> >>>>out bulb. Harness runs about $35 at the dealer, switch is about $16.
>> >>>>Lots of guys go with the manual cable, $200 as an accessory, less if
> you
>> >>>>make your own.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Snow wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>Just wondering what turns on and off the 4wd part-time and full-time
>> >>>
>> >>>lights
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>>>on a 93 XJ (4.0, atw4 tranny)? I noticed last night that the
>> >
>> > indicator
>> >
>> >>>>>lights don't turn on. T-case still shifts and engages into both 4wd
>> >>>
>> >>>drive
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>>>settings, this morning a few local roads were just slippery enough
>> >>>>>to
>> >>>
>> >>>allow
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>>>me to shift into 4 high and try it. Does the light get turned on
>> >>>>>by
>> >>>
>> >>>the
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>>>same vac. switch as the t-case?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Snow...93 XJ
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >
>> >
>
>
also has a hard time in 4wd part time. full time works, low works but part
time 4wd is iffy for the light even though it shifts well.
KH
"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:NPWdnZ0su73FCincRVn-gg@comcast.com...
> AFAIK there isn't a transfer case vacuum switch on the 93 XJ: that year
> there was no vacuum disconnect on the front axle.
>
> That said, the part-time light didn't work on my '93 XJ either, and I was
> able to determine that the bulb was fine...so it was either in the wiring
> to
> the transfer case or (most likely) the electrical switch in the transfer
> case. I didn't think it was serious enough to mess with unless I had to
> take
> the t-case apart for some reason.
>
> "RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
> news:VRwsd.1729$yr1.597@newsread3.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
>
>>
>> You can check the operation by starting the beast up, pull the vac plug
>> on the front axle and checking for a mild vac on one of the lines. Then
>> shift to 4wd, the vac should switch to the other line. No vac on either
>> says the line to the transfer case switch is bad. Not switching says the
>> transfer case switch itself is bad. Vac on one direction, not the other
>> says the vac harness is bad. Proper switching but no 4wd says the
>> diaphram is bad or the shift dog is stuck.
>>
>> Snow wrote:
>> > Where would I find the switch, I haven't looked yet, or is it quite
>> > easy
> to
>> > see?
>> >
>> > Snow...
>> >
>> > "RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
>> > news:Dknsd.1124$0r.90@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink .net...
>> >
>> >>Check the connection on the axle before pulling the dash off to get at
>> >>the bulbs. Put it in 4wd, move forward and backward a few feet to help
>> >>drop it in, see if the swich reads close to zero ohms. then see if the
>> >>connector is any good.
>> >>
>> >>Snow wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>Yeah I'm pretty sure it went fully into 4 high, I turned 4 corners 2
> of
>> >>>them slippery the other 2 were dry. I wasn't going fast and the 2
>> >
>> > corners
>> >
>> >>>that were dry I could feel the front wheels do the "hop" they do when
> in
>> >
>> > 4wd
>> >
>> >>>on a dry surface. I used to park in an semi underground parking lot,
> or
>> >>>rather had to drive through one to get to my parking spot and needed
> 4wd
>> >>>before I entered and after I exited to get into my spot (had turn a
>> >
>> > couple
>> >
>> >>>corners and the front would hop if it was in 4wd). I haven't
>> >>>checked
>> >
>> > the
>> >
>> >>>bulb yet, I'll do that tomorrow when I get home from work.
>> >>>
>> >>>Snow...
>> >>>
>> >>>"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
>> >>>news:u1ksd.1101$yr1.34@newsread3.news.pas.earth link.net...
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>>The older YJ's and XJ's had a vacumn switch sitting up on the
> firewall,
>> >>>>right next to the battery. Switch cuts in only after the front axle
>> >>>>is
>> >>>>locked. Newer models have the switch as an intergal part of the
> diaphram
>> >>>>on the front axle. Cutover was '91 on the YJ, a year or so earlier on
>> >>>>the XJ. You can easily check which you have: old units have 3 vac
> ports
>> >>>>on the axle, newer ones have 2 vac ports and a wire terminal.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Did you actually get inot 4wd? Keep in mind that your transfer case
> can
>> >>>>switch into 4WD, your axle may not have made it. The light does not
> come
>> >>>>on until it is locked. Usual problem is bad vac harnes, next is the
> vac
>> >>>>switch on the tranny. Or just the usual assortment of bad wire,
>> >>>>bunred
>> >>>>out bulb. Harness runs about $35 at the dealer, switch is about $16.
>> >>>>Lots of guys go with the manual cable, $200 as an accessory, less if
> you
>> >>>>make your own.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Snow wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>Just wondering what turns on and off the 4wd part-time and full-time
>> >>>
>> >>>lights
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>>>on a 93 XJ (4.0, atw4 tranny)? I noticed last night that the
>> >
>> > indicator
>> >
>> >>>>>lights don't turn on. T-case still shifts and engages into both 4wd
>> >>>
>> >>>drive
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>>>settings, this morning a few local roads were just slippery enough
>> >>>>>to
>> >>>
>> >>>allow
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>>>me to shift into 4 high and try it. Does the light get turned on
>> >>>>>by
>> >>>
>> >>>the
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>>>same vac. switch as the t-case?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Snow...93 XJ
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >
>> >
>
>
#32
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Re: 4WD part-time light question
Ok seams like its just the bulb or wire to the bulb which is bad. Had a
couple inches of snow yesterday so too the J**P out and around the
neighbourhood tried 4wd hi several times while goosing the gas around
corners, wife watched and said that once I managed to get all 4 wheels to
spin on a straight stretch when I floored it from a complete stop. If the
weather gets nicer over the next couple days I'll look more into the bulb
and wiring, if not I'll make a project on the list for next spring. Thanks
for all your suggestions.
Snow...
"Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:BXisd.36160$kI6.1736373@news20.bellglobal.com ...
> Just wondering what turns on and off the 4wd part-time and full-time
lights
> on a 93 XJ (4.0, atw4 tranny)? I noticed last night that the indicator
> lights don't turn on. T-case still shifts and engages into both 4wd drive
> settings, this morning a few local roads were just slippery enough to
allow
> me to shift into 4 high and try it. Does the light get turned on by the
> same vac. switch as the t-case?
>
> Snow...93 XJ
>
>
couple inches of snow yesterday so too the J**P out and around the
neighbourhood tried 4wd hi several times while goosing the gas around
corners, wife watched and said that once I managed to get all 4 wheels to
spin on a straight stretch when I floored it from a complete stop. If the
weather gets nicer over the next couple days I'll look more into the bulb
and wiring, if not I'll make a project on the list for next spring. Thanks
for all your suggestions.
Snow...
"Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:BXisd.36160$kI6.1736373@news20.bellglobal.com ...
> Just wondering what turns on and off the 4wd part-time and full-time
lights
> on a 93 XJ (4.0, atw4 tranny)? I noticed last night that the indicator
> lights don't turn on. T-case still shifts and engages into both 4wd drive
> settings, this morning a few local roads were just slippery enough to
allow
> me to shift into 4 high and try it. Does the light get turned on by the
> same vac. switch as the t-case?
>
> Snow...93 XJ
>
>
#33
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Posts: n/a
Re: 4WD part-time light question
Ok seams like its just the bulb or wire to the bulb which is bad. Had a
couple inches of snow yesterday so too the J**P out and around the
neighbourhood tried 4wd hi several times while goosing the gas around
corners, wife watched and said that once I managed to get all 4 wheels to
spin on a straight stretch when I floored it from a complete stop. If the
weather gets nicer over the next couple days I'll look more into the bulb
and wiring, if not I'll make a project on the list for next spring. Thanks
for all your suggestions.
Snow...
"Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:BXisd.36160$kI6.1736373@news20.bellglobal.com ...
> Just wondering what turns on and off the 4wd part-time and full-time
lights
> on a 93 XJ (4.0, atw4 tranny)? I noticed last night that the indicator
> lights don't turn on. T-case still shifts and engages into both 4wd drive
> settings, this morning a few local roads were just slippery enough to
allow
> me to shift into 4 high and try it. Does the light get turned on by the
> same vac. switch as the t-case?
>
> Snow...93 XJ
>
>
couple inches of snow yesterday so too the J**P out and around the
neighbourhood tried 4wd hi several times while goosing the gas around
corners, wife watched and said that once I managed to get all 4 wheels to
spin on a straight stretch when I floored it from a complete stop. If the
weather gets nicer over the next couple days I'll look more into the bulb
and wiring, if not I'll make a project on the list for next spring. Thanks
for all your suggestions.
Snow...
"Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:BXisd.36160$kI6.1736373@news20.bellglobal.com ...
> Just wondering what turns on and off the 4wd part-time and full-time
lights
> on a 93 XJ (4.0, atw4 tranny)? I noticed last night that the indicator
> lights don't turn on. T-case still shifts and engages into both 4wd drive
> settings, this morning a few local roads were just slippery enough to
allow
> me to shift into 4 high and try it. Does the light get turned on by the
> same vac. switch as the t-case?
>
> Snow...93 XJ
>
>
#34
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Re: 4WD part-time light question
Ok seams like its just the bulb or wire to the bulb which is bad. Had a
couple inches of snow yesterday so too the J**P out and around the
neighbourhood tried 4wd hi several times while goosing the gas around
corners, wife watched and said that once I managed to get all 4 wheels to
spin on a straight stretch when I floored it from a complete stop. If the
weather gets nicer over the next couple days I'll look more into the bulb
and wiring, if not I'll make a project on the list for next spring. Thanks
for all your suggestions.
Snow...
"Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:BXisd.36160$kI6.1736373@news20.bellglobal.com ...
> Just wondering what turns on and off the 4wd part-time and full-time
lights
> on a 93 XJ (4.0, atw4 tranny)? I noticed last night that the indicator
> lights don't turn on. T-case still shifts and engages into both 4wd drive
> settings, this morning a few local roads were just slippery enough to
allow
> me to shift into 4 high and try it. Does the light get turned on by the
> same vac. switch as the t-case?
>
> Snow...93 XJ
>
>
couple inches of snow yesterday so too the J**P out and around the
neighbourhood tried 4wd hi several times while goosing the gas around
corners, wife watched and said that once I managed to get all 4 wheels to
spin on a straight stretch when I floored it from a complete stop. If the
weather gets nicer over the next couple days I'll look more into the bulb
and wiring, if not I'll make a project on the list for next spring. Thanks
for all your suggestions.
Snow...
"Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:BXisd.36160$kI6.1736373@news20.bellglobal.com ...
> Just wondering what turns on and off the 4wd part-time and full-time
lights
> on a 93 XJ (4.0, atw4 tranny)? I noticed last night that the indicator
> lights don't turn on. T-case still shifts and engages into both 4wd drive
> settings, this morning a few local roads were just slippery enough to
allow
> me to shift into 4 high and try it. Does the light get turned on by the
> same vac. switch as the t-case?
>
> Snow...93 XJ
>
>
#35
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Re: 4WD part-time light question
I believe I have read here that the parts stores carry lots of those
switches. They are on the tranny and fail lots it would seem.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Snow wrote:
>
> Ok seams like its just the bulb or wire to the bulb which is bad. Had a
> couple inches of snow yesterday so too the J**P out and around the
> neighbourhood tried 4wd hi several times while goosing the gas around
> corners, wife watched and said that once I managed to get all 4 wheels to
> spin on a straight stretch when I floored it from a complete stop. If the
> weather gets nicer over the next couple days I'll look more into the bulb
> and wiring, if not I'll make a project on the list for next spring. Thanks
> for all your suggestions.
>
> Snow...
>
> "Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:BXisd.36160$kI6.1736373@news20.bellglobal.com ...
> > Just wondering what turns on and off the 4wd part-time and full-time
> lights
> > on a 93 XJ (4.0, atw4 tranny)? I noticed last night that the indicator
> > lights don't turn on. T-case still shifts and engages into both 4wd drive
> > settings, this morning a few local roads were just slippery enough to
> allow
> > me to shift into 4 high and try it. Does the light get turned on by the
> > same vac. switch as the t-case?
> >
> > Snow...93 XJ
> >
> >
switches. They are on the tranny and fail lots it would seem.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Snow wrote:
>
> Ok seams like its just the bulb or wire to the bulb which is bad. Had a
> couple inches of snow yesterday so too the J**P out and around the
> neighbourhood tried 4wd hi several times while goosing the gas around
> corners, wife watched and said that once I managed to get all 4 wheels to
> spin on a straight stretch when I floored it from a complete stop. If the
> weather gets nicer over the next couple days I'll look more into the bulb
> and wiring, if not I'll make a project on the list for next spring. Thanks
> for all your suggestions.
>
> Snow...
>
> "Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:BXisd.36160$kI6.1736373@news20.bellglobal.com ...
> > Just wondering what turns on and off the 4wd part-time and full-time
> lights
> > on a 93 XJ (4.0, atw4 tranny)? I noticed last night that the indicator
> > lights don't turn on. T-case still shifts and engages into both 4wd drive
> > settings, this morning a few local roads were just slippery enough to
> allow
> > me to shift into 4 high and try it. Does the light get turned on by the
> > same vac. switch as the t-case?
> >
> > Snow...93 XJ
> >
> >
#36
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Posts: n/a
Re: 4WD part-time light question
I believe I have read here that the parts stores carry lots of those
switches. They are on the tranny and fail lots it would seem.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Snow wrote:
>
> Ok seams like its just the bulb or wire to the bulb which is bad. Had a
> couple inches of snow yesterday so too the J**P out and around the
> neighbourhood tried 4wd hi several times while goosing the gas around
> corners, wife watched and said that once I managed to get all 4 wheels to
> spin on a straight stretch when I floored it from a complete stop. If the
> weather gets nicer over the next couple days I'll look more into the bulb
> and wiring, if not I'll make a project on the list for next spring. Thanks
> for all your suggestions.
>
> Snow...
>
> "Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:BXisd.36160$kI6.1736373@news20.bellglobal.com ...
> > Just wondering what turns on and off the 4wd part-time and full-time
> lights
> > on a 93 XJ (4.0, atw4 tranny)? I noticed last night that the indicator
> > lights don't turn on. T-case still shifts and engages into both 4wd drive
> > settings, this morning a few local roads were just slippery enough to
> allow
> > me to shift into 4 high and try it. Does the light get turned on by the
> > same vac. switch as the t-case?
> >
> > Snow...93 XJ
> >
> >
switches. They are on the tranny and fail lots it would seem.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Snow wrote:
>
> Ok seams like its just the bulb or wire to the bulb which is bad. Had a
> couple inches of snow yesterday so too the J**P out and around the
> neighbourhood tried 4wd hi several times while goosing the gas around
> corners, wife watched and said that once I managed to get all 4 wheels to
> spin on a straight stretch when I floored it from a complete stop. If the
> weather gets nicer over the next couple days I'll look more into the bulb
> and wiring, if not I'll make a project on the list for next spring. Thanks
> for all your suggestions.
>
> Snow...
>
> "Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:BXisd.36160$kI6.1736373@news20.bellglobal.com ...
> > Just wondering what turns on and off the 4wd part-time and full-time
> lights
> > on a 93 XJ (4.0, atw4 tranny)? I noticed last night that the indicator
> > lights don't turn on. T-case still shifts and engages into both 4wd drive
> > settings, this morning a few local roads were just slippery enough to
> allow
> > me to shift into 4 high and try it. Does the light get turned on by the
> > same vac. switch as the t-case?
> >
> > Snow...93 XJ
> >
> >
#37
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 4WD part-time light question
I believe I have read here that the parts stores carry lots of those
switches. They are on the tranny and fail lots it would seem.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Snow wrote:
>
> Ok seams like its just the bulb or wire to the bulb which is bad. Had a
> couple inches of snow yesterday so too the J**P out and around the
> neighbourhood tried 4wd hi several times while goosing the gas around
> corners, wife watched and said that once I managed to get all 4 wheels to
> spin on a straight stretch when I floored it from a complete stop. If the
> weather gets nicer over the next couple days I'll look more into the bulb
> and wiring, if not I'll make a project on the list for next spring. Thanks
> for all your suggestions.
>
> Snow...
>
> "Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:BXisd.36160$kI6.1736373@news20.bellglobal.com ...
> > Just wondering what turns on and off the 4wd part-time and full-time
> lights
> > on a 93 XJ (4.0, atw4 tranny)? I noticed last night that the indicator
> > lights don't turn on. T-case still shifts and engages into both 4wd drive
> > settings, this morning a few local roads were just slippery enough to
> allow
> > me to shift into 4 high and try it. Does the light get turned on by the
> > same vac. switch as the t-case?
> >
> > Snow...93 XJ
> >
> >
switches. They are on the tranny and fail lots it would seem.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Snow wrote:
>
> Ok seams like its just the bulb or wire to the bulb which is bad. Had a
> couple inches of snow yesterday so too the J**P out and around the
> neighbourhood tried 4wd hi several times while goosing the gas around
> corners, wife watched and said that once I managed to get all 4 wheels to
> spin on a straight stretch when I floored it from a complete stop. If the
> weather gets nicer over the next couple days I'll look more into the bulb
> and wiring, if not I'll make a project on the list for next spring. Thanks
> for all your suggestions.
>
> Snow...
>
> "Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:BXisd.36160$kI6.1736373@news20.bellglobal.com ...
> > Just wondering what turns on and off the 4wd part-time and full-time
> lights
> > on a 93 XJ (4.0, atw4 tranny)? I noticed last night that the indicator
> > lights don't turn on. T-case still shifts and engages into both 4wd drive
> > settings, this morning a few local roads were just slippery enough to
> allow
> > me to shift into 4 high and try it. Does the light get turned on by the
> > same vac. switch as the t-case?
> >
> > Snow...93 XJ
> >
> >
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