Steve

Monte Castleman wrote:
> With the newer ones, they took away the swing open vent
> windows

And a good thing they did. Those vent windows leak on the front corner.
I think there was a service bulletin on it.

Steve

Larry Greenwood

You shouldn't have any difficulty picking up a cherokee for under $15,000.
In fact I have seen pretty good deals. If you get a good enough deal on
the command trac you can always swap out the command trac for a selectrac
transfer case if you want the advantage of full time 4wd. Both are good
cases.


Larry Greenwood

"coyotefred" <coyotefred@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:b8883a35.0406171053.33fabf34@posting.google.c om...
> Hello!
>
> After 240K miles, my trusty old Toyota pickup is going out to pasture
> (literally, as a ranch work truck). I need a new main ride now, and I
> think a used cherokee may be my best choice. My driving habits are
> about 70% pavement (with pretty good snow/ice coverages in winter
> though), 20% dirt/gravel rural roads (sometimes pretty muddy in wet
> springs) and 10% off-road (not recreational 4-wheeling, but getting
> back on lousy 'roads,' 2-track or worse to hunt, fish, hike, etc.).
> 'No kids, just the girlfriend and a buddy or two now and then (and
> plenty of gear) for trips. 'Maybe some light towing now and then
> (small horse trailer). And I want to stay under about $15,000 if I
> can.
>
> Like other folks with similar driving needs, I thought about some of
> the compact SUVs like the Subaru Forester and the Honda CRV. I like
> the idea of a full-time AWD system to leave "on" at times when in my
> neck of the woods you're not sure where your next patch of black ice
> is going to show up. However, the lack of a 4-low option for slow
> crawling and pulling concerned me, as did the basic fact that (based
> on my reading the opinions of others) these are on-road vehicles with
> *some* limited off-road capability. I do spend a fair amount of time
> "off-pavement," and I need a vehicle that can deal with that.
>
> When I put everything together, it seemed to me a used jeep cherokee
> might be a good choice. While I'm not thrilled with jeep's
> reliability compared to the likes of Toyota, Honda & Subaru (my
> immediate and extended family have driven jeeps for as long as I can
> remember, and they've spent more time in the shop than I think they
> should have), I need to think of performance as well as reliability.
> And when things do go wrong, my chances of getting decent service on a
> cherokee out here in rural America seem a whole lot better than Subaru
> or Honda.
>
> From what I've read, it seemed like maybe a late 90s Cherokee sport
> with the Select-Tract drivetrain (which apparently has a selectable
> full-time AWD option or something similar) would be an ideal choice
> for my needs. I would appreciate any thoughts others might have on
> the matter though-esp. any known "good" or "bad" years for Cherokee,
> features to look for/avoid, etc.
>
> Thanks so much-
>
> Coyotefred in Wyoming

Larry Greenwood

You shouldn't have any difficulty picking up a cherokee for under $15,000.
In fact I have seen pretty good deals. If you get a good enough deal on
the command trac you can always swap out the command trac for a selectrac
transfer case if you want the advantage of full time 4wd. Both are good
cases.


Larry Greenwood

"coyotefred" <coyotefred@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:b8883a35.0406171053.33fabf34@posting.google.c om...
> Hello!
>
> After 240K miles, my trusty old Toyota pickup is going out to pasture
> (literally, as a ranch work truck). I need a new main ride now, and I
> think a used cherokee may be my best choice. My driving habits are
> about 70% pavement (with pretty good snow/ice coverages in winter
> though), 20% dirt/gravel rural roads (sometimes pretty muddy in wet
> springs) and 10% off-road (not recreational 4-wheeling, but getting
> back on lousy 'roads,' 2-track or worse to hunt, fish, hike, etc.).
> 'No kids, just the girlfriend and a buddy or two now and then (and
> plenty of gear) for trips. 'Maybe some light towing now and then
> (small horse trailer). And I want to stay under about $15,000 if I
> can.
>
> Like other folks with similar driving needs, I thought about some of
> the compact SUVs like the Subaru Forester and the Honda CRV. I like
> the idea of a full-time AWD system to leave "on" at times when in my
> neck of the woods you're not sure where your next patch of black ice
> is going to show up. However, the lack of a 4-low option for slow
> crawling and pulling concerned me, as did the basic fact that (based
> on my reading the opinions of others) these are on-road vehicles with
> *some* limited off-road capability. I do spend a fair amount of time
> "off-pavement," and I need a vehicle that can deal with that.
>
> When I put everything together, it seemed to me a used jeep cherokee
> might be a good choice. While I'm not thrilled with jeep's
> reliability compared to the likes of Toyota, Honda & Subaru (my
> immediate and extended family have driven jeeps for as long as I can
> remember, and they've spent more time in the shop than I think they
> should have), I need to think of performance as well as reliability.
> And when things do go wrong, my chances of getting decent service on a
> cherokee out here in rural America seem a whole lot better than Subaru
> or Honda.
>
> From what I've read, it seemed like maybe a late 90s Cherokee sport
> with the Select-Tract drivetrain (which apparently has a selectable
> full-time AWD option or something similar) would be an ideal choice
> for my needs. I would appreciate any thoughts others might have on
> the matter though-esp. any known "good" or "bad" years for Cherokee,
> features to look for/avoid, etc.
>
> Thanks so much-
>
> Coyotefred in Wyoming

Larry Greenwood

You shouldn't have any difficulty picking up a cherokee for under $15,000.
In fact I have seen pretty good deals. If you get a good enough deal on
the command trac you can always swap out the command trac for a selectrac
transfer case if you want the advantage of full time 4wd. Both are good
cases.


Larry Greenwood

"coyotefred" <coyotefred@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:b8883a35.0406171053.33fabf34@posting.google.c om...
> Hello!
>
> After 240K miles, my trusty old Toyota pickup is going out to pasture
> (literally, as a ranch work truck). I need a new main ride now, and I
> think a used cherokee may be my best choice. My driving habits are
> about 70% pavement (with pretty good snow/ice coverages in winter
> though), 20% dirt/gravel rural roads (sometimes pretty muddy in wet
> springs) and 10% off-road (not recreational 4-wheeling, but getting
> back on lousy 'roads,' 2-track or worse to hunt, fish, hike, etc.).
> 'No kids, just the girlfriend and a buddy or two now and then (and
> plenty of gear) for trips. 'Maybe some light towing now and then
> (small horse trailer). And I want to stay under about $15,000 if I
> can.
>
> Like other folks with similar driving needs, I thought about some of
> the compact SUVs like the Subaru Forester and the Honda CRV. I like
> the idea of a full-time AWD system to leave "on" at times when in my
> neck of the woods you're not sure where your next patch of black ice
> is going to show up. However, the lack of a 4-low option for slow
> crawling and pulling concerned me, as did the basic fact that (based
> on my reading the opinions of others) these are on-road vehicles with
> *some* limited off-road capability. I do spend a fair amount of time
> "off-pavement," and I need a vehicle that can deal with that.
>
> When I put everything together, it seemed to me a used jeep cherokee
> might be a good choice. While I'm not thrilled with jeep's
> reliability compared to the likes of Toyota, Honda & Subaru (my
> immediate and extended family have driven jeeps for as long as I can
> remember, and they've spent more time in the shop than I think they
> should have), I need to think of performance as well as reliability.
> And when things do go wrong, my chances of getting decent service on a
> cherokee out here in rural America seem a whole lot better than Subaru
> or Honda.
>
> From what I've read, it seemed like maybe a late 90s Cherokee sport
> with the Select-Tract drivetrain (which apparently has a selectable
> full-time AWD option or something similar) would be an ideal choice
> for my needs. I would appreciate any thoughts others might have on
> the matter though-esp. any known "good" or "bad" years for Cherokee,
> features to look for/avoid, etc.
>
> Thanks so much-
>
> Coyotefred in Wyoming

Larry Greenwood

You shouldn't have any difficulty picking up a cherokee for under $15,000.
In fact I have seen pretty good deals. If you get a good enough deal on
the command trac you can always swap out the command trac for a selectrac
transfer case if you want the advantage of full time 4wd. Both are good
cases.


Larry Greenwood

"coyotefred" <coyotefred@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:b8883a35.0406171053.33fabf34@posting.google.c om...
> Hello!
>
> After 240K miles, my trusty old Toyota pickup is going out to pasture
> (literally, as a ranch work truck). I need a new main ride now, and I
> think a used cherokee may be my best choice. My driving habits are
> about 70% pavement (with pretty good snow/ice coverages in winter
> though), 20% dirt/gravel rural roads (sometimes pretty muddy in wet
> springs) and 10% off-road (not recreational 4-wheeling, but getting
> back on lousy 'roads,' 2-track or worse to hunt, fish, hike, etc.).
> 'No kids, just the girlfriend and a buddy or two now and then (and
> plenty of gear) for trips. 'Maybe some light towing now and then
> (small horse trailer). And I want to stay under about $15,000 if I
> can.
>
> Like other folks with similar driving needs, I thought about some of
> the compact SUVs like the Subaru Forester and the Honda CRV. I like
> the idea of a full-time AWD system to leave "on" at times when in my
> neck of the woods you're not sure where your next patch of black ice
> is going to show up. However, the lack of a 4-low option for slow
> crawling and pulling concerned me, as did the basic fact that (based
> on my reading the opinions of others) these are on-road vehicles with
> *some* limited off-road capability. I do spend a fair amount of time
> "off-pavement," and I need a vehicle that can deal with that.
>
> When I put everything together, it seemed to me a used jeep cherokee
> might be a good choice. While I'm not thrilled with jeep's
> reliability compared to the likes of Toyota, Honda & Subaru (my
> immediate and extended family have driven jeeps for as long as I can
> remember, and they've spent more time in the shop than I think they
> should have), I need to think of performance as well as reliability.
> And when things do go wrong, my chances of getting decent service on a
> cherokee out here in rural America seem a whole lot better than Subaru
> or Honda.
>
> From what I've read, it seemed like maybe a late 90s Cherokee sport
> with the Select-Tract drivetrain (which apparently has a selectable
> full-time AWD option or something similar) would be an ideal choice
> for my needs. I would appreciate any thoughts others might have on
> the matter though-esp. any known "good" or "bad" years for Cherokee,
> features to look for/avoid, etc.
>
> Thanks so much-
>
> Coyotefred in Wyoming

greenbmk

I had a Cherokee (either a 1999 or 2000, I can't remember, whichever was the
last year they made the Cherokee) and I loved it. Rode smooth on highway,
great offroad. decent gas mileage. Nice amount of power, i guess since it
was so light it just jumped to go when you stepped on the gas. a ton of room
for gear. man i loved that jeep. traded it in to get a Wrangler Unlimited.
IF i could have afforded both, i would have loved to keep that Cherokee, but
I'm so glad to have the Unlimited.
Go for the Cherokee if you are leaning that way, you'll love it.
"coyotefred" <coyotefred@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:b8883a35.0406190922.6b8fbe0b@posting.google.c om...
> Hello! What year/model do you have with that Command-Trac?
>
> "Bowgus" <bowgus@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:<HcKAc.342024$Ar.137531@twister01.bloor.is.ne t.cable.rogers.com>...
> > I like my Command-Trac ... let's me 2 wheel it most of the time which
saves
> > a bit on gas ... with the 4H there on demand for snow, rain, gravel. A
note
> > on the 4 low ... not selectable on the fly ... from what I've read the
> > majority of us have to select neutral before selecting/deselecting 4L.
And I
> > like my lockup 4 spd auto for smooth trailer pulling and saving a bit on
> > fuel. And I like that 4.0 litre HO ... a bit of performance/torque. And
it's
> > light ... 3100 lbs ... with that uniframe or whatever it's called. And
.... I
> > find the open differentials work just fine. Still going strong at
240,000 km
> > ... oh yeah, had to replace the starter last week ... got to the point
where
> > I had to whack it to get it to work ... and the cost was only $188 cdn
at
> > the dealers ... about half what I was expecting.

greenbmk

I had a Cherokee (either a 1999 or 2000, I can't remember, whichever was the
last year they made the Cherokee) and I loved it. Rode smooth on highway,
great offroad. decent gas mileage. Nice amount of power, i guess since it
was so light it just jumped to go when you stepped on the gas. a ton of room
for gear. man i loved that jeep. traded it in to get a Wrangler Unlimited.
IF i could have afforded both, i would have loved to keep that Cherokee, but
I'm so glad to have the Unlimited.
Go for the Cherokee if you are leaning that way, you'll love it.
"coyotefred" <coyotefred@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:b8883a35.0406190922.6b8fbe0b@posting.google.c om...
> Hello! What year/model do you have with that Command-Trac?
>
> "Bowgus" <bowgus@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:<HcKAc.342024$Ar.137531@twister01.bloor.is.ne t.cable.rogers.com>...
> > I like my Command-Trac ... let's me 2 wheel it most of the time which
saves
> > a bit on gas ... with the 4H there on demand for snow, rain, gravel. A
note
> > on the 4 low ... not selectable on the fly ... from what I've read the
> > majority of us have to select neutral before selecting/deselecting 4L.
And I
> > like my lockup 4 spd auto for smooth trailer pulling and saving a bit on
> > fuel. And I like that 4.0 litre HO ... a bit of performance/torque. And
it's
> > light ... 3100 lbs ... with that uniframe or whatever it's called. And
.... I
> > find the open differentials work just fine. Still going strong at
240,000 km
> > ... oh yeah, had to replace the starter last week ... got to the point
where
> > I had to whack it to get it to work ... and the cost was only $188 cdn
at
> > the dealers ... about half what I was expecting.

greenbmk

I had a Cherokee (either a 1999 or 2000, I can't remember, whichever was the
last year they made the Cherokee) and I loved it. Rode smooth on highway,
great offroad. decent gas mileage. Nice amount of power, i guess since it
was so light it just jumped to go when you stepped on the gas. a ton of room
for gear. man i loved that jeep. traded it in to get a Wrangler Unlimited.
IF i could have afforded both, i would have loved to keep that Cherokee, but
I'm so glad to have the Unlimited.
Go for the Cherokee if you are leaning that way, you'll love it.
"coyotefred" <coyotefred@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:b8883a35.0406190922.6b8fbe0b@posting.google.c om...
> Hello! What year/model do you have with that Command-Trac?
>
> "Bowgus" <bowgus@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:<HcKAc.342024$Ar.137531@twister01.bloor.is.ne t.cable.rogers.com>...
> > I like my Command-Trac ... let's me 2 wheel it most of the time which
saves
> > a bit on gas ... with the 4H there on demand for snow, rain, gravel. A
note
> > on the 4 low ... not selectable on the fly ... from what I've read the
> > majority of us have to select neutral before selecting/deselecting 4L.
And I
> > like my lockup 4 spd auto for smooth trailer pulling and saving a bit on
> > fuel. And I like that 4.0 litre HO ... a bit of performance/torque. And
it's
> > light ... 3100 lbs ... with that uniframe or whatever it's called. And
.... I
> > find the open differentials work just fine. Still going strong at
240,000 km
> > ... oh yeah, had to replace the starter last week ... got to the point
where
> > I had to whack it to get it to work ... and the cost was only $188 cdn
at
> > the dealers ... about half what I was expecting.

greenbmk

I had a Cherokee (either a 1999 or 2000, I can't remember, whichever was the
last year they made the Cherokee) and I loved it. Rode smooth on highway,
great offroad. decent gas mileage. Nice amount of power, i guess since it
was so light it just jumped to go when you stepped on the gas. a ton of room
for gear. man i loved that jeep. traded it in to get a Wrangler Unlimited.
IF i could have afforded both, i would have loved to keep that Cherokee, but
I'm so glad to have the Unlimited.
Go for the Cherokee if you are leaning that way, you'll love it.
"coyotefred" <coyotefred@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:b8883a35.0406190922.6b8fbe0b@posting.google.c om...
> Hello! What year/model do you have with that Command-Trac?
>
> "Bowgus" <bowgus@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:<HcKAc.342024$Ar.137531@twister01.bloor.is.ne t.cable.rogers.com>...
> > I like my Command-Trac ... let's me 2 wheel it most of the time which
saves
> > a bit on gas ... with the 4H there on demand for snow, rain, gravel. A
note
> > on the 4 low ... not selectable on the fly ... from what I've read the
> > majority of us have to select neutral before selecting/deselecting 4L.
And I
> > like my lockup 4 spd auto for smooth trailer pulling and saving a bit on
> > fuel. And I like that 4.0 litre HO ... a bit of performance/torque. And
it's
> > light ... 3100 lbs ... with that uniframe or whatever it's called. And
.... I
> > find the open differentials work just fine. Still going strong at
240,000 km
> > ... oh yeah, had to replace the starter last week ... got to the point
where
> > I had to whack it to get it to work ... and the cost was only $188 cdn
at
> > the dealers ... about half what I was expecting.

DaveW

Steve wrote:

> Monte Castleman wrote:
>
>> With the newer ones, they took away the swing open vent windows
>
>
> And a good thing they did. Those vent windows leak on the front corner.
> I think there was a service bulletin on it.
>
> Steve

Not a good thing they did. The fact that the Cherokee was one of the
last vehicles built with wind wings is one of the primary reasons I
bought one. Unfortunately, we now have an entire generation that has
grown up without these essential ventilation devices. Pity. On any day
with a temperature between 50 and 80 degrees F, you don't know what you
are missing!

They made cars with them for 40+ years and leakage was not generally a
problem.

Regards,

DAve