Well I'd like to believe your dealer... honestly - that's the same info
they've been giving me for the last 2 years. :) Almost verbatim...

Paul
"ElAlumbrado" <elNOSPAMalumbrado@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:32fc$42403ab8$943f9512$28113@STARBAND.NET...
> "Paw" <p@p.com> wrote
>
>>I followed the Crosslander bit for the last 2years - I don't think they'll
>>ever get the beast to the US - numerous issues in the past - epa
>>standards, quality control issues, worker strikes.... you name it, they've
>>had an excuse/reason - kept in touch w/ one of the 'dealers' for about a
>>year - still don't know when they'll arrive - always tell you the next
>>season - so it's spring now - the last i heard was Summer 2005....
>>
>> don't count on it, sorry.
>
> That's too bad. It looks just about perfect for the kind of no-frills,
> 4-passenger off-road "toad" I'd like to have (especially with the
> turbo-diesel). The dealer in Austin says that EPA approval was secured
> late last fall and that they expect to get their first production
> vehicle(s) in May. They also said that volume production will begin over
> the summer with wide availability of colors, options, etc. by early fall.
>
> I guess we'll see. If not, there's always the 2007 Wrangler 4-door. I wish
> Land Rover would bring the long wheel-base 4-door Defender back to the US.
>
> El Alumbrado
> "Civis Texanus Sum"
>

 

Well I'd like to believe your dealer... honestly - that's the same info
they've been giving me for the last 2 years. :) Almost verbatim...

Paul
"ElAlumbrado" <elNOSPAMalumbrado@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:32fc$42403ab8$943f9512$28113@STARBAND.NET...
> "Paw" <p@p.com> wrote
>
>>I followed the Crosslander bit for the last 2years - I don't think they'll
>>ever get the beast to the US - numerous issues in the past - epa
>>standards, quality control issues, worker strikes.... you name it, they've
>>had an excuse/reason - kept in touch w/ one of the 'dealers' for about a
>>year - still don't know when they'll arrive - always tell you the next
>>season - so it's spring now - the last i heard was Summer 2005....
>>
>> don't count on it, sorry.
>
> That's too bad. It looks just about perfect for the kind of no-frills,
> 4-passenger off-road "toad" I'd like to have (especially with the
> turbo-diesel). The dealer in Austin says that EPA approval was secured
> late last fall and that they expect to get their first production
> vehicle(s) in May. They also said that volume production will begin over
> the summer with wide availability of colors, options, etc. by early fall.
>
> I guess we'll see. If not, there's always the 2007 Wrangler 4-door. I wish
> Land Rover would bring the long wheel-base 4-door Defender back to the US.
>
> El Alumbrado
> "Civis Texanus Sum"
>

 

Oh and btw - if it does become available - the turbo-diesel is no longer an
option - it's a v6 - they 'hope' to bring the diesel to the US after a few
years of producition with the v6 - at least this is the info I was last
given.

Paul
"Paw" <p@p.com> wrote in message news:L56dnfAOc4kAFt3fRVn-sw@comcast.com...
> Well I'd like to believe your dealer... honestly - that's the same info
> they've been giving me for the last 2 years. :) Almost verbatim...
>
> Paul
> "ElAlumbrado" <elNOSPAMalumbrado@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:32fc$42403ab8$943f9512$28113@STARBAND.NET...
>> "Paw" <p@p.com> wrote
>>
>>>I followed the Crosslander bit for the last 2years - I don't think
>>>they'll ever get the beast to the US - numerous issues in the past - epa
>>>standards, quality control issues, worker strikes.... you name it,
>>>they've had an excuse/reason - kept in touch w/ one of the 'dealers' for
>>>about a year - still don't know when they'll arrive - always tell you the
>>>next season - so it's spring now - the last i heard was Summer 2005....
>>>
>>> don't count on it, sorry.
>>
>> That's too bad. It looks just about perfect for the kind of no-frills,
>> 4-passenger off-road "toad" I'd like to have (especially with the
>> turbo-diesel). The dealer in Austin says that EPA approval was secured
>> late last fall and that they expect to get their first production
>> vehicle(s) in May. They also said that volume production will begin over
>> the summer with wide availability of colors, options, etc. by early fall.
>>
>> I guess we'll see. If not, there's always the 2007 Wrangler 4-door. I
>> wish Land Rover would bring the long wheel-base 4-door Defender back to
>> the US.
>>
>> El Alumbrado
>> "Civis Texanus Sum"
>>
>
>

 

Oh and btw - if it does become available - the turbo-diesel is no longer an
option - it's a v6 - they 'hope' to bring the diesel to the US after a few
years of producition with the v6 - at least this is the info I was last
given.

Paul
"Paw" <p@p.com> wrote in message news:L56dnfAOc4kAFt3fRVn-sw@comcast.com...
> Well I'd like to believe your dealer... honestly - that's the same info
> they've been giving me for the last 2 years. :) Almost verbatim...
>
> Paul
> "ElAlumbrado" <elNOSPAMalumbrado@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:32fc$42403ab8$943f9512$28113@STARBAND.NET...
>> "Paw" <p@p.com> wrote
>>
>>>I followed the Crosslander bit for the last 2years - I don't think
>>>they'll ever get the beast to the US - numerous issues in the past - epa
>>>standards, quality control issues, worker strikes.... you name it,
>>>they've had an excuse/reason - kept in touch w/ one of the 'dealers' for
>>>about a year - still don't know when they'll arrive - always tell you the
>>>next season - so it's spring now - the last i heard was Summer 2005....
>>>
>>> don't count on it, sorry.
>>
>> That's too bad. It looks just about perfect for the kind of no-frills,
>> 4-passenger off-road "toad" I'd like to have (especially with the
>> turbo-diesel). The dealer in Austin says that EPA approval was secured
>> late last fall and that they expect to get their first production
>> vehicle(s) in May. They also said that volume production will begin over
>> the summer with wide availability of colors, options, etc. by early fall.
>>
>> I guess we'll see. If not, there's always the 2007 Wrangler 4-door. I
>> wish Land Rover would bring the long wheel-base 4-door Defender back to
>> the US.
>>
>> El Alumbrado
>> "Civis Texanus Sum"
>>
>
>

 

Oh and btw - if it does become available - the turbo-diesel is no longer an
option - it's a v6 - they 'hope' to bring the diesel to the US after a few
years of producition with the v6 - at least this is the info I was last
given.

Paul
"Paw" <p@p.com> wrote in message news:L56dnfAOc4kAFt3fRVn-sw@comcast.com...
> Well I'd like to believe your dealer... honestly - that's the same info
> they've been giving me for the last 2 years. :) Almost verbatim...
>
> Paul
> "ElAlumbrado" <elNOSPAMalumbrado@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:32fc$42403ab8$943f9512$28113@STARBAND.NET...
>> "Paw" <p@p.com> wrote
>>
>>>I followed the Crosslander bit for the last 2years - I don't think
>>>they'll ever get the beast to the US - numerous issues in the past - epa
>>>standards, quality control issues, worker strikes.... you name it,
>>>they've had an excuse/reason - kept in touch w/ one of the 'dealers' for
>>>about a year - still don't know when they'll arrive - always tell you the
>>>next season - so it's spring now - the last i heard was Summer 2005....
>>>
>>> don't count on it, sorry.
>>
>> That's too bad. It looks just about perfect for the kind of no-frills,
>> 4-passenger off-road "toad" I'd like to have (especially with the
>> turbo-diesel). The dealer in Austin says that EPA approval was secured
>> late last fall and that they expect to get their first production
>> vehicle(s) in May. They also said that volume production will begin over
>> the summer with wide availability of colors, options, etc. by early fall.
>>
>> I guess we'll see. If not, there's always the 2007 Wrangler 4-door. I
>> wish Land Rover would bring the long wheel-base 4-door Defender back to
>> the US.
>>
>> El Alumbrado
>> "Civis Texanus Sum"
>>
>
>

 

POS

--
HarryS My 2¢
"ElAlumbrado" <elNOSPAMalumbrado@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:c7cfa$423efbcb$943f9512$32210@STARBAND.NET...
|A friend of mine in the newspaper business just said he recently saw an
| announcement from Jeep that they will produce a new Wrangler platform
| late next year. One of the variants will be a 4-door stretched version
| available with both hard and soft tops (Yippee!). Has anybody heard
| anything else about this? I hope they sell it with a diesel and a
| 6-speed manual.
|
| Also rumored to be coming to the US soon is a Land Rover knock-off built
| by a Romanian company in Brazil called the "CrossLander". This is a
| civilized version of an Eastern-European military vehicle and appears to
| be a simple, rugged, no-frills hard-core 4x4 with a base price somewhere
| around $20K. They claim a network of 90 dealers nationwide (here's the
| link for the Dallas dealer:
| http://www.noboundaries4x4.com/cross_lander.html), with availability
| later this spring (they say that EPA approval, secured late last fall,
| has delayed US introduction originally scheduled for 2003). Does anybody
| know anything more about this thing?
|
| I think either of these 2 vehicles would make a great "Toad" for the
| more adventurous RV-er.
|
| Thanks,
|
| El Alumbrado
| "Civis Texanus Sum"
|
|

 

POS

--
HarryS My 2¢
"ElAlumbrado" <elNOSPAMalumbrado@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:c7cfa$423efbcb$943f9512$32210@STARBAND.NET...
|A friend of mine in the newspaper business just said he recently saw an
| announcement from Jeep that they will produce a new Wrangler platform
| late next year. One of the variants will be a 4-door stretched version
| available with both hard and soft tops (Yippee!). Has anybody heard
| anything else about this? I hope they sell it with a diesel and a
| 6-speed manual.
|
| Also rumored to be coming to the US soon is a Land Rover knock-off built
| by a Romanian company in Brazil called the "CrossLander". This is a
| civilized version of an Eastern-European military vehicle and appears to
| be a simple, rugged, no-frills hard-core 4x4 with a base price somewhere
| around $20K. They claim a network of 90 dealers nationwide (here's the
| link for the Dallas dealer:
| http://www.noboundaries4x4.com/cross_lander.html), with availability
| later this spring (they say that EPA approval, secured late last fall,
| has delayed US introduction originally scheduled for 2003). Does anybody
| know anything more about this thing?
|
| I think either of these 2 vehicles would make a great "Toad" for the
| more adventurous RV-er.
|
| Thanks,
|
| El Alumbrado
| "Civis Texanus Sum"
|
|

 

POS

--
HarryS My 2¢
"ElAlumbrado" <elNOSPAMalumbrado@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:c7cfa$423efbcb$943f9512$32210@STARBAND.NET...
|A friend of mine in the newspaper business just said he recently saw an
| announcement from Jeep that they will produce a new Wrangler platform
| late next year. One of the variants will be a 4-door stretched version
| available with both hard and soft tops (Yippee!). Has anybody heard
| anything else about this? I hope they sell it with a diesel and a
| 6-speed manual.
|
| Also rumored to be coming to the US soon is a Land Rover knock-off built
| by a Romanian company in Brazil called the "CrossLander". This is a
| civilized version of an Eastern-European military vehicle and appears to
| be a simple, rugged, no-frills hard-core 4x4 with a base price somewhere
| around $20K. They claim a network of 90 dealers nationwide (here's the
| link for the Dallas dealer:
| http://www.noboundaries4x4.com/cross_lander.html), with availability
| later this spring (they say that EPA approval, secured late last fall,
| has delayed US introduction originally scheduled for 2003). Does anybody
| know anything more about this thing?
|
| I think either of these 2 vehicles would make a great "Toad" for the
| more adventurous RV-er.
|
| Thanks,
|
| El Alumbrado
| "Civis Texanus Sum"
|
|

 

In article <05J%d.30851$nZ.1636549@twister.southeast.rr.com >,
JPribe <jpribe@nc.rr.com> wrote:


> Any word as to suspension changes....we all know where the GC went...


You need to ask? Follow the money - that leads you on-road, with IFS &
side-impact protection. TJ is the end of the line.

B

--
Brian Heller

It is easier to tame wild beasts
than to conquer the human mind.

 

In article <05J%d.30851$nZ.1636549@twister.southeast.rr.com >,
JPribe <jpribe@nc.rr.com> wrote:


> Any word as to suspension changes....we all know where the GC went...


You need to ask? Follow the money - that leads you on-road, with IFS &
side-impact protection. TJ is the end of the line.

B

--
Brian Heller

It is easier to tame wild beasts
than to conquer the human mind.