4.56 gears in a Dana 30 front
#71
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Re: 4.56 gears in a Dana 30 front
Hi Terry,
Supply and demand, if he was going the other way he'd get a used
carrier for free.
Tom's running a Dana 35c with the 4.56 smaller opinion, far less
than 32" tires or he'll be sending me pictures to:
http://www.----------.com/dana35c/
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Terry Jeffrey wrote:
>
> Sounds good, Tom. But that price sounds a little high for the carrier.
> What size tires are you planning to run with those 4.56s?
>
> Terry.
Supply and demand, if he was going the other way he'd get a used
carrier for free.
Tom's running a Dana 35c with the 4.56 smaller opinion, far less
than 32" tires or he'll be sending me pictures to:
http://www.----------.com/dana35c/
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Terry Jeffrey wrote:
>
> Sounds good, Tom. But that price sounds a little high for the carrier.
> What size tires are you planning to run with those 4.56s?
>
> Terry.
#72
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Re: 4.56 gears in a Dana 30 front
Hi Terry,
Supply and demand, if he was going the other way he'd get a used
carrier for free.
Tom's running a Dana 35c with the 4.56 smaller opinion, far less
than 32" tires or he'll be sending me pictures to:
http://www.----------.com/dana35c/
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Terry Jeffrey wrote:
>
> Sounds good, Tom. But that price sounds a little high for the carrier.
> What size tires are you planning to run with those 4.56s?
>
> Terry.
Supply and demand, if he was going the other way he'd get a used
carrier for free.
Tom's running a Dana 35c with the 4.56 smaller opinion, far less
than 32" tires or he'll be sending me pictures to:
http://www.----------.com/dana35c/
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Terry Jeffrey wrote:
>
> Sounds good, Tom. But that price sounds a little high for the carrier.
> What size tires are you planning to run with those 4.56s?
>
> Terry.
#73
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Re: 4.56 gears in a Dana 30 front
Hi Terry,
Supply and demand, if he was going the other way he'd get a used
carrier for free.
Tom's running a Dana 35c with the 4.56 smaller opinion, far less
than 32" tires or he'll be sending me pictures to:
http://www.----------.com/dana35c/
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Terry Jeffrey wrote:
>
> Sounds good, Tom. But that price sounds a little high for the carrier.
> What size tires are you planning to run with those 4.56s?
>
> Terry.
Supply and demand, if he was going the other way he'd get a used
carrier for free.
Tom's running a Dana 35c with the 4.56 smaller opinion, far less
than 32" tires or he'll be sending me pictures to:
http://www.----------.com/dana35c/
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Terry Jeffrey wrote:
>
> Sounds good, Tom. But that price sounds a little high for the carrier.
> What size tires are you planning to run with those 4.56s?
>
> Terry.
#74
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Re: 4.56 gears in a Dana 30 front
$200 for the new carrier???!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha , those guys are just
yankin' your chain... or if they're serious, they're giving you a royal
reaming. I never paid more than $60 for a brand new carrier in my life and
that includes for the Dana 30 that I bought my last carrier for.
Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
"Tom P." <TPatzlaff@aol.com> wrote in message
news:dd809f71.0312291846.2d607f8a@posting.google.c om...
> Hello,
> I just left the local 4 Wheel Drive Wholesalers shop and they told me
> I definitely need a new carrier, and my current lock-right locker will
> work just fine with the new carrier. I guess the bolt pattern or
> something is different, the new carrier is around $200.00 plus cost
> of the new gear set and master install kit.
> Thanks for for the feedback and advice!
> Tom
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<orLHb.23377$Pg1.22505@newsread1.news.pas.ear thlink.net>...
> > Hey guys, I'm not suggesting anybody is wrong. All I'm saying is I
don't
> > recall having to replace the carrier in my D30 whenever I made this swap
> > back in spring of '96. The 4.56 ring bolted onto the stock carrier, and
I
> > used it until about 4 months ago. If I hadn't taken the old D30 to
salvage
> > last month, I'd go open it up and take a look. Both the CJ and the TJ
use a
> > non-reverse cut D30, whereas the YJ uses a reverse-cut. Maybe this is
the
> > difference -- I don't know. One thing is for sure: either it fit the
stock
> > carrier on my 92YJ or all those brain cells I destroyed at a younger age
is
> > starting to catch up with me!! :)
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Terry.
> >
> >
> >
> > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
> > news:i9IHb.31792$gN.19187@fed1read05...
> > > I can't imagine going from 3.07 to 4.56 without needing a new carrier
in
> > any
> > > Dana axle. I believe any ratio 3.73 or lower (lower meaning 4.10,
4.56,
> > > etc.) needs a new carrier, even in something that old. My TJ's
> > non-reverse
> > > cut D30 sure did when I went from 3.55 to 4.10... but I kept the same
> > > carrier when converting from 4.10 to 4.88 earlier this year.
> > >
> > > --
> > > --
> > > Jerry Bransford
> > > To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> > > KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> > > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> > >
> > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > > news:x3IHb.32188$HR4.13579@news01.roc.ny...
> > > > I don't think there is any difference - all internal parts are the
same.
> > > > Did you see Bill's list?
> > > > http://www.----------.com/tooth_count.txt
> > > >
> > > > JimG
> > > >
> > > > "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:zLHHb.22523$Pg1.19236@newsread1.news.pas.eart hlink.net...
> > > > > My original gear was 3.07 too, but I'm certain I did not have to
> > replace
> > the
> > > > > D30 carrier in conjunction with using the LockRite. Maybe this is
a
> > > > > difference in the stock '80 vs '92 D30?
> > > > >
> > > > > Terry.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:FzHHb.32183$iN4.2074@news01.roc.ny...
> > > > > > If original gear is higher that 3.73, the carrier has to be
> > replaced.
> > My
> > > > > > original gear was 3.07. I had to replace the carriers in both
front
> > and
> > > > > > rear.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > JimG
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:XZFHb.22399$Pg1.9205@newsread1.news.pas.earth link.net...
> > > > > > > It's been a few years, but thinking back I'm sure I didn't
have to
> > replace
> > > > > > > the entire reverse-cut D30 carrier when I installed the 4.56
R&P
> > because
> > I
> > > > > > > installed a LockRight locker at the same time, which replaces
the
> > side
> > and
> > > > > > > spider gears. Didn't your LockRight install go this way too?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Terry 92YJ
> > > > > > > (now running dual D60s w/Detroits)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:pdFHb.32159$Wc4.17075@news01.roc.ny...
> > > > > > > > You will have to get a new carrier for the D30, been there,
done
> > that.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > JimG
> > > > > > > > 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> > > > > > > > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > > > > > > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> > > > > > > > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> > > > > > > > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > > > > > > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "Tom P." <TPatzlaff@aol.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > news:dd809f71.0312281017.6ee22391@posting.google.c om...
> > > > > > > > > I have an "88" wrangler with a Dana 35 rear and Dana 30
front.
> > I
> > > > > > > > > currently have 3.55 gears in both diffs. and would like to
put
> > 4.56
> > > > > > > > > gears in both.
> > > > > > > > > The literature I can find says that if I have 3.55 or
lower
> > gears
> > in
> > > > > > > > > the D35, I will be ok. But what I need to know is if the
4.56
> > gears
> > > > > > > > > will fit in the D30 case? From what I can find it sounds
like
> > I'm
> > > > > > > > > going to need a housing with 3.73 or lower gears in it for
the
> > 4.56
> > to
> > > > > > > > > fit.I need to find out the real answer.
> > > > > > > > > Has anyone out there put 4.56 gears in these size
housings?
> > > > > > > > > Any help or advice would be great.
> > > > > > > > > Tom
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha , those guys are just
yankin' your chain... or if they're serious, they're giving you a royal
reaming. I never paid more than $60 for a brand new carrier in my life and
that includes for the Dana 30 that I bought my last carrier for.
Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
"Tom P." <TPatzlaff@aol.com> wrote in message
news:dd809f71.0312291846.2d607f8a@posting.google.c om...
> Hello,
> I just left the local 4 Wheel Drive Wholesalers shop and they told me
> I definitely need a new carrier, and my current lock-right locker will
> work just fine with the new carrier. I guess the bolt pattern or
> something is different, the new carrier is around $200.00 plus cost
> of the new gear set and master install kit.
> Thanks for for the feedback and advice!
> Tom
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<orLHb.23377$Pg1.22505@newsread1.news.pas.ear thlink.net>...
> > Hey guys, I'm not suggesting anybody is wrong. All I'm saying is I
don't
> > recall having to replace the carrier in my D30 whenever I made this swap
> > back in spring of '96. The 4.56 ring bolted onto the stock carrier, and
I
> > used it until about 4 months ago. If I hadn't taken the old D30 to
salvage
> > last month, I'd go open it up and take a look. Both the CJ and the TJ
use a
> > non-reverse cut D30, whereas the YJ uses a reverse-cut. Maybe this is
the
> > difference -- I don't know. One thing is for sure: either it fit the
stock
> > carrier on my 92YJ or all those brain cells I destroyed at a younger age
is
> > starting to catch up with me!! :)
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Terry.
> >
> >
> >
> > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
> > news:i9IHb.31792$gN.19187@fed1read05...
> > > I can't imagine going from 3.07 to 4.56 without needing a new carrier
in
> > any
> > > Dana axle. I believe any ratio 3.73 or lower (lower meaning 4.10,
4.56,
> > > etc.) needs a new carrier, even in something that old. My TJ's
> > non-reverse
> > > cut D30 sure did when I went from 3.55 to 4.10... but I kept the same
> > > carrier when converting from 4.10 to 4.88 earlier this year.
> > >
> > > --
> > > --
> > > Jerry Bransford
> > > To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> > > KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> > > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> > >
> > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > > news:x3IHb.32188$HR4.13579@news01.roc.ny...
> > > > I don't think there is any difference - all internal parts are the
same.
> > > > Did you see Bill's list?
> > > > http://www.----------.com/tooth_count.txt
> > > >
> > > > JimG
> > > >
> > > > "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:zLHHb.22523$Pg1.19236@newsread1.news.pas.eart hlink.net...
> > > > > My original gear was 3.07 too, but I'm certain I did not have to
> > replace
> > the
> > > > > D30 carrier in conjunction with using the LockRite. Maybe this is
a
> > > > > difference in the stock '80 vs '92 D30?
> > > > >
> > > > > Terry.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:FzHHb.32183$iN4.2074@news01.roc.ny...
> > > > > > If original gear is higher that 3.73, the carrier has to be
> > replaced.
> > My
> > > > > > original gear was 3.07. I had to replace the carriers in both
front
> > and
> > > > > > rear.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > JimG
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:XZFHb.22399$Pg1.9205@newsread1.news.pas.earth link.net...
> > > > > > > It's been a few years, but thinking back I'm sure I didn't
have to
> > replace
> > > > > > > the entire reverse-cut D30 carrier when I installed the 4.56
R&P
> > because
> > I
> > > > > > > installed a LockRight locker at the same time, which replaces
the
> > side
> > and
> > > > > > > spider gears. Didn't your LockRight install go this way too?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Terry 92YJ
> > > > > > > (now running dual D60s w/Detroits)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:pdFHb.32159$Wc4.17075@news01.roc.ny...
> > > > > > > > You will have to get a new carrier for the D30, been there,
done
> > that.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > JimG
> > > > > > > > 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> > > > > > > > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > > > > > > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> > > > > > > > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> > > > > > > > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > > > > > > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "Tom P." <TPatzlaff@aol.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > news:dd809f71.0312281017.6ee22391@posting.google.c om...
> > > > > > > > > I have an "88" wrangler with a Dana 35 rear and Dana 30
front.
> > I
> > > > > > > > > currently have 3.55 gears in both diffs. and would like to
put
> > 4.56
> > > > > > > > > gears in both.
> > > > > > > > > The literature I can find says that if I have 3.55 or
lower
> > gears
> > in
> > > > > > > > > the D35, I will be ok. But what I need to know is if the
4.56
> > gears
> > > > > > > > > will fit in the D30 case? From what I can find it sounds
like
> > I'm
> > > > > > > > > going to need a housing with 3.73 or lower gears in it for
the
> > 4.56
> > to
> > > > > > > > > fit.I need to find out the real answer.
> > > > > > > > > Has anyone out there put 4.56 gears in these size
housings?
> > > > > > > > > Any help or advice would be great.
> > > > > > > > > Tom
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
#75
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Re: 4.56 gears in a Dana 30 front
$200 for the new carrier???!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha , those guys are just
yankin' your chain... or if they're serious, they're giving you a royal
reaming. I never paid more than $60 for a brand new carrier in my life and
that includes for the Dana 30 that I bought my last carrier for.
Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
"Tom P." <TPatzlaff@aol.com> wrote in message
news:dd809f71.0312291846.2d607f8a@posting.google.c om...
> Hello,
> I just left the local 4 Wheel Drive Wholesalers shop and they told me
> I definitely need a new carrier, and my current lock-right locker will
> work just fine with the new carrier. I guess the bolt pattern or
> something is different, the new carrier is around $200.00 plus cost
> of the new gear set and master install kit.
> Thanks for for the feedback and advice!
> Tom
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<orLHb.23377$Pg1.22505@newsread1.news.pas.ear thlink.net>...
> > Hey guys, I'm not suggesting anybody is wrong. All I'm saying is I
don't
> > recall having to replace the carrier in my D30 whenever I made this swap
> > back in spring of '96. The 4.56 ring bolted onto the stock carrier, and
I
> > used it until about 4 months ago. If I hadn't taken the old D30 to
salvage
> > last month, I'd go open it up and take a look. Both the CJ and the TJ
use a
> > non-reverse cut D30, whereas the YJ uses a reverse-cut. Maybe this is
the
> > difference -- I don't know. One thing is for sure: either it fit the
stock
> > carrier on my 92YJ or all those brain cells I destroyed at a younger age
is
> > starting to catch up with me!! :)
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Terry.
> >
> >
> >
> > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
> > news:i9IHb.31792$gN.19187@fed1read05...
> > > I can't imagine going from 3.07 to 4.56 without needing a new carrier
in
> > any
> > > Dana axle. I believe any ratio 3.73 or lower (lower meaning 4.10,
4.56,
> > > etc.) needs a new carrier, even in something that old. My TJ's
> > non-reverse
> > > cut D30 sure did when I went from 3.55 to 4.10... but I kept the same
> > > carrier when converting from 4.10 to 4.88 earlier this year.
> > >
> > > --
> > > --
> > > Jerry Bransford
> > > To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> > > KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> > > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> > >
> > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > > news:x3IHb.32188$HR4.13579@news01.roc.ny...
> > > > I don't think there is any difference - all internal parts are the
same.
> > > > Did you see Bill's list?
> > > > http://www.----------.com/tooth_count.txt
> > > >
> > > > JimG
> > > >
> > > > "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:zLHHb.22523$Pg1.19236@newsread1.news.pas.eart hlink.net...
> > > > > My original gear was 3.07 too, but I'm certain I did not have to
> > replace
> > the
> > > > > D30 carrier in conjunction with using the LockRite. Maybe this is
a
> > > > > difference in the stock '80 vs '92 D30?
> > > > >
> > > > > Terry.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:FzHHb.32183$iN4.2074@news01.roc.ny...
> > > > > > If original gear is higher that 3.73, the carrier has to be
> > replaced.
> > My
> > > > > > original gear was 3.07. I had to replace the carriers in both
front
> > and
> > > > > > rear.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > JimG
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:XZFHb.22399$Pg1.9205@newsread1.news.pas.earth link.net...
> > > > > > > It's been a few years, but thinking back I'm sure I didn't
have to
> > replace
> > > > > > > the entire reverse-cut D30 carrier when I installed the 4.56
R&P
> > because
> > I
> > > > > > > installed a LockRight locker at the same time, which replaces
the
> > side
> > and
> > > > > > > spider gears. Didn't your LockRight install go this way too?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Terry 92YJ
> > > > > > > (now running dual D60s w/Detroits)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:pdFHb.32159$Wc4.17075@news01.roc.ny...
> > > > > > > > You will have to get a new carrier for the D30, been there,
done
> > that.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > JimG
> > > > > > > > 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> > > > > > > > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > > > > > > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> > > > > > > > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> > > > > > > > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > > > > > > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "Tom P." <TPatzlaff@aol.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > news:dd809f71.0312281017.6ee22391@posting.google.c om...
> > > > > > > > > I have an "88" wrangler with a Dana 35 rear and Dana 30
front.
> > I
> > > > > > > > > currently have 3.55 gears in both diffs. and would like to
put
> > 4.56
> > > > > > > > > gears in both.
> > > > > > > > > The literature I can find says that if I have 3.55 or
lower
> > gears
> > in
> > > > > > > > > the D35, I will be ok. But what I need to know is if the
4.56
> > gears
> > > > > > > > > will fit in the D30 case? From what I can find it sounds
like
> > I'm
> > > > > > > > > going to need a housing with 3.73 or lower gears in it for
the
> > 4.56
> > to
> > > > > > > > > fit.I need to find out the real answer.
> > > > > > > > > Has anyone out there put 4.56 gears in these size
housings?
> > > > > > > > > Any help or advice would be great.
> > > > > > > > > Tom
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha , those guys are just
yankin' your chain... or if they're serious, they're giving you a royal
reaming. I never paid more than $60 for a brand new carrier in my life and
that includes for the Dana 30 that I bought my last carrier for.
Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
"Tom P." <TPatzlaff@aol.com> wrote in message
news:dd809f71.0312291846.2d607f8a@posting.google.c om...
> Hello,
> I just left the local 4 Wheel Drive Wholesalers shop and they told me
> I definitely need a new carrier, and my current lock-right locker will
> work just fine with the new carrier. I guess the bolt pattern or
> something is different, the new carrier is around $200.00 plus cost
> of the new gear set and master install kit.
> Thanks for for the feedback and advice!
> Tom
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<orLHb.23377$Pg1.22505@newsread1.news.pas.ear thlink.net>...
> > Hey guys, I'm not suggesting anybody is wrong. All I'm saying is I
don't
> > recall having to replace the carrier in my D30 whenever I made this swap
> > back in spring of '96. The 4.56 ring bolted onto the stock carrier, and
I
> > used it until about 4 months ago. If I hadn't taken the old D30 to
salvage
> > last month, I'd go open it up and take a look. Both the CJ and the TJ
use a
> > non-reverse cut D30, whereas the YJ uses a reverse-cut. Maybe this is
the
> > difference -- I don't know. One thing is for sure: either it fit the
stock
> > carrier on my 92YJ or all those brain cells I destroyed at a younger age
is
> > starting to catch up with me!! :)
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Terry.
> >
> >
> >
> > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
> > news:i9IHb.31792$gN.19187@fed1read05...
> > > I can't imagine going from 3.07 to 4.56 without needing a new carrier
in
> > any
> > > Dana axle. I believe any ratio 3.73 or lower (lower meaning 4.10,
4.56,
> > > etc.) needs a new carrier, even in something that old. My TJ's
> > non-reverse
> > > cut D30 sure did when I went from 3.55 to 4.10... but I kept the same
> > > carrier when converting from 4.10 to 4.88 earlier this year.
> > >
> > > --
> > > --
> > > Jerry Bransford
> > > To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> > > KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> > > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> > >
> > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > > news:x3IHb.32188$HR4.13579@news01.roc.ny...
> > > > I don't think there is any difference - all internal parts are the
same.
> > > > Did you see Bill's list?
> > > > http://www.----------.com/tooth_count.txt
> > > >
> > > > JimG
> > > >
> > > > "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:zLHHb.22523$Pg1.19236@newsread1.news.pas.eart hlink.net...
> > > > > My original gear was 3.07 too, but I'm certain I did not have to
> > replace
> > the
> > > > > D30 carrier in conjunction with using the LockRite. Maybe this is
a
> > > > > difference in the stock '80 vs '92 D30?
> > > > >
> > > > > Terry.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:FzHHb.32183$iN4.2074@news01.roc.ny...
> > > > > > If original gear is higher that 3.73, the carrier has to be
> > replaced.
> > My
> > > > > > original gear was 3.07. I had to replace the carriers in both
front
> > and
> > > > > > rear.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > JimG
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:XZFHb.22399$Pg1.9205@newsread1.news.pas.earth link.net...
> > > > > > > It's been a few years, but thinking back I'm sure I didn't
have to
> > replace
> > > > > > > the entire reverse-cut D30 carrier when I installed the 4.56
R&P
> > because
> > I
> > > > > > > installed a LockRight locker at the same time, which replaces
the
> > side
> > and
> > > > > > > spider gears. Didn't your LockRight install go this way too?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Terry 92YJ
> > > > > > > (now running dual D60s w/Detroits)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:pdFHb.32159$Wc4.17075@news01.roc.ny...
> > > > > > > > You will have to get a new carrier for the D30, been there,
done
> > that.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > JimG
> > > > > > > > 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> > > > > > > > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > > > > > > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> > > > > > > > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> > > > > > > > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > > > > > > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "Tom P." <TPatzlaff@aol.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > news:dd809f71.0312281017.6ee22391@posting.google.c om...
> > > > > > > > > I have an "88" wrangler with a Dana 35 rear and Dana 30
front.
> > I
> > > > > > > > > currently have 3.55 gears in both diffs. and would like to
put
> > 4.56
> > > > > > > > > gears in both.
> > > > > > > > > The literature I can find says that if I have 3.55 or
lower
> > gears
> > in
> > > > > > > > > the D35, I will be ok. But what I need to know is if the
4.56
> > gears
> > > > > > > > > will fit in the D30 case? From what I can find it sounds
like
> > I'm
> > > > > > > > > going to need a housing with 3.73 or lower gears in it for
the
> > 4.56
> > to
> > > > > > > > > fit.I need to find out the real answer.
> > > > > > > > > Has anyone out there put 4.56 gears in these size
housings?
> > > > > > > > > Any help or advice would be great.
> > > > > > > > > Tom
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
#76
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Re: 4.56 gears in a Dana 30 front
$200 for the new carrier???!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha , those guys are just
yankin' your chain... or if they're serious, they're giving you a royal
reaming. I never paid more than $60 for a brand new carrier in my life and
that includes for the Dana 30 that I bought my last carrier for.
Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
"Tom P." <TPatzlaff@aol.com> wrote in message
news:dd809f71.0312291846.2d607f8a@posting.google.c om...
> Hello,
> I just left the local 4 Wheel Drive Wholesalers shop and they told me
> I definitely need a new carrier, and my current lock-right locker will
> work just fine with the new carrier. I guess the bolt pattern or
> something is different, the new carrier is around $200.00 plus cost
> of the new gear set and master install kit.
> Thanks for for the feedback and advice!
> Tom
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<orLHb.23377$Pg1.22505@newsread1.news.pas.ear thlink.net>...
> > Hey guys, I'm not suggesting anybody is wrong. All I'm saying is I
don't
> > recall having to replace the carrier in my D30 whenever I made this swap
> > back in spring of '96. The 4.56 ring bolted onto the stock carrier, and
I
> > used it until about 4 months ago. If I hadn't taken the old D30 to
salvage
> > last month, I'd go open it up and take a look. Both the CJ and the TJ
use a
> > non-reverse cut D30, whereas the YJ uses a reverse-cut. Maybe this is
the
> > difference -- I don't know. One thing is for sure: either it fit the
stock
> > carrier on my 92YJ or all those brain cells I destroyed at a younger age
is
> > starting to catch up with me!! :)
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Terry.
> >
> >
> >
> > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
> > news:i9IHb.31792$gN.19187@fed1read05...
> > > I can't imagine going from 3.07 to 4.56 without needing a new carrier
in
> > any
> > > Dana axle. I believe any ratio 3.73 or lower (lower meaning 4.10,
4.56,
> > > etc.) needs a new carrier, even in something that old. My TJ's
> > non-reverse
> > > cut D30 sure did when I went from 3.55 to 4.10... but I kept the same
> > > carrier when converting from 4.10 to 4.88 earlier this year.
> > >
> > > --
> > > --
> > > Jerry Bransford
> > > To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> > > KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> > > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> > >
> > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > > news:x3IHb.32188$HR4.13579@news01.roc.ny...
> > > > I don't think there is any difference - all internal parts are the
same.
> > > > Did you see Bill's list?
> > > > http://www.----------.com/tooth_count.txt
> > > >
> > > > JimG
> > > >
> > > > "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:zLHHb.22523$Pg1.19236@newsread1.news.pas.eart hlink.net...
> > > > > My original gear was 3.07 too, but I'm certain I did not have to
> > replace
> > the
> > > > > D30 carrier in conjunction with using the LockRite. Maybe this is
a
> > > > > difference in the stock '80 vs '92 D30?
> > > > >
> > > > > Terry.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:FzHHb.32183$iN4.2074@news01.roc.ny...
> > > > > > If original gear is higher that 3.73, the carrier has to be
> > replaced.
> > My
> > > > > > original gear was 3.07. I had to replace the carriers in both
front
> > and
> > > > > > rear.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > JimG
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:XZFHb.22399$Pg1.9205@newsread1.news.pas.earth link.net...
> > > > > > > It's been a few years, but thinking back I'm sure I didn't
have to
> > replace
> > > > > > > the entire reverse-cut D30 carrier when I installed the 4.56
R&P
> > because
> > I
> > > > > > > installed a LockRight locker at the same time, which replaces
the
> > side
> > and
> > > > > > > spider gears. Didn't your LockRight install go this way too?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Terry 92YJ
> > > > > > > (now running dual D60s w/Detroits)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:pdFHb.32159$Wc4.17075@news01.roc.ny...
> > > > > > > > You will have to get a new carrier for the D30, been there,
done
> > that.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > JimG
> > > > > > > > 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> > > > > > > > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > > > > > > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> > > > > > > > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> > > > > > > > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > > > > > > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "Tom P." <TPatzlaff@aol.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > news:dd809f71.0312281017.6ee22391@posting.google.c om...
> > > > > > > > > I have an "88" wrangler with a Dana 35 rear and Dana 30
front.
> > I
> > > > > > > > > currently have 3.55 gears in both diffs. and would like to
put
> > 4.56
> > > > > > > > > gears in both.
> > > > > > > > > The literature I can find says that if I have 3.55 or
lower
> > gears
> > in
> > > > > > > > > the D35, I will be ok. But what I need to know is if the
4.56
> > gears
> > > > > > > > > will fit in the D30 case? From what I can find it sounds
like
> > I'm
> > > > > > > > > going to need a housing with 3.73 or lower gears in it for
the
> > 4.56
> > to
> > > > > > > > > fit.I need to find out the real answer.
> > > > > > > > > Has anyone out there put 4.56 gears in these size
housings?
> > > > > > > > > Any help or advice would be great.
> > > > > > > > > Tom
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha , those guys are just
yankin' your chain... or if they're serious, they're giving you a royal
reaming. I never paid more than $60 for a brand new carrier in my life and
that includes for the Dana 30 that I bought my last carrier for.
Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
"Tom P." <TPatzlaff@aol.com> wrote in message
news:dd809f71.0312291846.2d607f8a@posting.google.c om...
> Hello,
> I just left the local 4 Wheel Drive Wholesalers shop and they told me
> I definitely need a new carrier, and my current lock-right locker will
> work just fine with the new carrier. I guess the bolt pattern or
> something is different, the new carrier is around $200.00 plus cost
> of the new gear set and master install kit.
> Thanks for for the feedback and advice!
> Tom
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<orLHb.23377$Pg1.22505@newsread1.news.pas.ear thlink.net>...
> > Hey guys, I'm not suggesting anybody is wrong. All I'm saying is I
don't
> > recall having to replace the carrier in my D30 whenever I made this swap
> > back in spring of '96. The 4.56 ring bolted onto the stock carrier, and
I
> > used it until about 4 months ago. If I hadn't taken the old D30 to
salvage
> > last month, I'd go open it up and take a look. Both the CJ and the TJ
use a
> > non-reverse cut D30, whereas the YJ uses a reverse-cut. Maybe this is
the
> > difference -- I don't know. One thing is for sure: either it fit the
stock
> > carrier on my 92YJ or all those brain cells I destroyed at a younger age
is
> > starting to catch up with me!! :)
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Terry.
> >
> >
> >
> > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
> > news:i9IHb.31792$gN.19187@fed1read05...
> > > I can't imagine going from 3.07 to 4.56 without needing a new carrier
in
> > any
> > > Dana axle. I believe any ratio 3.73 or lower (lower meaning 4.10,
4.56,
> > > etc.) needs a new carrier, even in something that old. My TJ's
> > non-reverse
> > > cut D30 sure did when I went from 3.55 to 4.10... but I kept the same
> > > carrier when converting from 4.10 to 4.88 earlier this year.
> > >
> > > --
> > > --
> > > Jerry Bransford
> > > To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> > > KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> > > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> > >
> > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > > news:x3IHb.32188$HR4.13579@news01.roc.ny...
> > > > I don't think there is any difference - all internal parts are the
same.
> > > > Did you see Bill's list?
> > > > http://www.----------.com/tooth_count.txt
> > > >
> > > > JimG
> > > >
> > > > "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:zLHHb.22523$Pg1.19236@newsread1.news.pas.eart hlink.net...
> > > > > My original gear was 3.07 too, but I'm certain I did not have to
> > replace
> > the
> > > > > D30 carrier in conjunction with using the LockRite. Maybe this is
a
> > > > > difference in the stock '80 vs '92 D30?
> > > > >
> > > > > Terry.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:FzHHb.32183$iN4.2074@news01.roc.ny...
> > > > > > If original gear is higher that 3.73, the carrier has to be
> > replaced.
> > My
> > > > > > original gear was 3.07. I had to replace the carriers in both
front
> > and
> > > > > > rear.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > JimG
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:XZFHb.22399$Pg1.9205@newsread1.news.pas.earth link.net...
> > > > > > > It's been a few years, but thinking back I'm sure I didn't
have to
> > replace
> > > > > > > the entire reverse-cut D30 carrier when I installed the 4.56
R&P
> > because
> > I
> > > > > > > installed a LockRight locker at the same time, which replaces
the
> > side
> > and
> > > > > > > spider gears. Didn't your LockRight install go this way too?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Terry 92YJ
> > > > > > > (now running dual D60s w/Detroits)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:pdFHb.32159$Wc4.17075@news01.roc.ny...
> > > > > > > > You will have to get a new carrier for the D30, been there,
done
> > that.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > JimG
> > > > > > > > 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> > > > > > > > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > > > > > > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> > > > > > > > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> > > > > > > > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > > > > > > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "Tom P." <TPatzlaff@aol.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > news:dd809f71.0312281017.6ee22391@posting.google.c om...
> > > > > > > > > I have an "88" wrangler with a Dana 35 rear and Dana 30
front.
> > I
> > > > > > > > > currently have 3.55 gears in both diffs. and would like to
put
> > 4.56
> > > > > > > > > gears in both.
> > > > > > > > > The literature I can find says that if I have 3.55 or
lower
> > gears
> > in
> > > > > > > > > the D35, I will be ok. But what I need to know is if the
4.56
> > gears
> > > > > > > > > will fit in the D30 case? From what I can find it sounds
like
> > I'm
> > > > > > > > > going to need a housing with 3.73 or lower gears in it for
the
> > 4.56
> > to
> > > > > > > > > fit.I need to find out the real answer.
> > > > > > > > > Has anyone out there put 4.56 gears in these size
housings?
> > > > > > > > > Any help or advice would be great.
> > > > > > > > > Tom
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
#77
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Re: 4.56 gears in a Dana 30 front
"Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Au0Ib.10847$lo3.8157@newsread2.news.pas.earth link.net...
> >
> > All those drugs you did as a kid are starting to catch up with you. You
> had
> > to replace the carrier or the 4.56 ring gear would not have fit.
> >
>
> That seems to be the consensus! :). If so, I should still have the old
> carrier in my pile of Jeep parts. When I get over this head cold and the
> outside temp gets above 20 degrees I might go search for it.
>
> By the way - no drugs for me, my friend. Drinking heavily used to be the
> routine though, especially during my college and military years. The good
> old days!
>
Ah yes, the Good Old Days.
#78
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Re: 4.56 gears in a Dana 30 front
"Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Au0Ib.10847$lo3.8157@newsread2.news.pas.earth link.net...
> >
> > All those drugs you did as a kid are starting to catch up with you. You
> had
> > to replace the carrier or the 4.56 ring gear would not have fit.
> >
>
> That seems to be the consensus! :). If so, I should still have the old
> carrier in my pile of Jeep parts. When I get over this head cold and the
> outside temp gets above 20 degrees I might go search for it.
>
> By the way - no drugs for me, my friend. Drinking heavily used to be the
> routine though, especially during my college and military years. The good
> old days!
>
Ah yes, the Good Old Days.
#79
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Re: 4.56 gears in a Dana 30 front
"Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Au0Ib.10847$lo3.8157@newsread2.news.pas.earth link.net...
> >
> > All those drugs you did as a kid are starting to catch up with you. You
> had
> > to replace the carrier or the 4.56 ring gear would not have fit.
> >
>
> That seems to be the consensus! :). If so, I should still have the old
> carrier in my pile of Jeep parts. When I get over this head cold and the
> outside temp gets above 20 degrees I might go search for it.
>
> By the way - no drugs for me, my friend. Drinking heavily used to be the
> routine though, especially during my college and military years. The good
> old days!
>
Ah yes, the Good Old Days.
#80
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Re: 4.56 gears in a Dana 30 front
"If you remember the sixties, you weren't really there." -Robbin
Williams
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CRWLR wrote:
>
> Ah yes, the Good Old Days.
Williams
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
CRWLR wrote:
>
> Ah yes, the Good Old Days.