4 1/2" Rubicon Lift
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Re: 4 1/2" Rubicon Lift
Robb, I see Rubicon's instructions for the 4.5" kit haven't impreoved! :-)
The "Big" end of the springs, that is, the military wrap, mounts to the
spring hangers on the frame, the smaller end goes to the shackle end. Both
ends have the same size bushings. Rubicon doesn't make this clear at all in
their instructions, but I clarified it with them over the phone when I
installed this kit on my '94 a few years ago.
The 2.5 degree shims are to go on both the front and the rear, however I'd
never use an aluminum shim to begin with, particularly on the front end. You
should be able to get 2 - 3 degree steel shims from a local alignment shop.
If not, you can for sure get them from Poison Spyder Customs in Denver.
Because of the 1" longer shackles that come with this kit, the front caster
will be shot to hell and it will handle like $#!t unless you add the caster
back in.
If you haven't done so yet, this is a good time to install an SYE kit in
your xfer case, with a CV rear driveshaft. Rather than fool with the shims
have your spring perches cut loose and align the pinion properly. You can
then toss the xfer case drop pucks in the trash.
This is a superb, flexy kit and the springs hold up very well. FWIW, I
tossed the Rubicon shackles and installed Mountain Off Road's versions,
which are much stouter.
"Robb S via CarKB.com" <forum@CarKB.com> wrote in message
news:0c832561016146c78ecab785b1b37191@CarKB.com...
> Thanks Bill, that link looks to be very helpful, given the instructions
> given with the lift. Not too complicated, but still tryin to figure if I
> need to use the degree shims for the front axle, and how that all works.
> Big end in rear or front, etc..
>
> --
> Message posted via http://www.carkb.com
The "Big" end of the springs, that is, the military wrap, mounts to the
spring hangers on the frame, the smaller end goes to the shackle end. Both
ends have the same size bushings. Rubicon doesn't make this clear at all in
their instructions, but I clarified it with them over the phone when I
installed this kit on my '94 a few years ago.
The 2.5 degree shims are to go on both the front and the rear, however I'd
never use an aluminum shim to begin with, particularly on the front end. You
should be able to get 2 - 3 degree steel shims from a local alignment shop.
If not, you can for sure get them from Poison Spyder Customs in Denver.
Because of the 1" longer shackles that come with this kit, the front caster
will be shot to hell and it will handle like $#!t unless you add the caster
back in.
If you haven't done so yet, this is a good time to install an SYE kit in
your xfer case, with a CV rear driveshaft. Rather than fool with the shims
have your spring perches cut loose and align the pinion properly. You can
then toss the xfer case drop pucks in the trash.
This is a superb, flexy kit and the springs hold up very well. FWIW, I
tossed the Rubicon shackles and installed Mountain Off Road's versions,
which are much stouter.
"Robb S via CarKB.com" <forum@CarKB.com> wrote in message
news:0c832561016146c78ecab785b1b37191@CarKB.com...
> Thanks Bill, that link looks to be very helpful, given the instructions
> given with the lift. Not too complicated, but still tryin to figure if I
> need to use the degree shims for the front axle, and how that all works.
> Big end in rear or front, etc..
>
> --
> Message posted via http://www.carkb.com
#32
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Re: 4 1/2" Rubicon Lift
Robb, I see Rubicon's instructions for the 4.5" kit haven't impreoved! :-)
The "Big" end of the springs, that is, the military wrap, mounts to the
spring hangers on the frame, the smaller end goes to the shackle end. Both
ends have the same size bushings. Rubicon doesn't make this clear at all in
their instructions, but I clarified it with them over the phone when I
installed this kit on my '94 a few years ago.
The 2.5 degree shims are to go on both the front and the rear, however I'd
never use an aluminum shim to begin with, particularly on the front end. You
should be able to get 2 - 3 degree steel shims from a local alignment shop.
If not, you can for sure get them from Poison Spyder Customs in Denver.
Because of the 1" longer shackles that come with this kit, the front caster
will be shot to hell and it will handle like $#!t unless you add the caster
back in.
If you haven't done so yet, this is a good time to install an SYE kit in
your xfer case, with a CV rear driveshaft. Rather than fool with the shims
have your spring perches cut loose and align the pinion properly. You can
then toss the xfer case drop pucks in the trash.
This is a superb, flexy kit and the springs hold up very well. FWIW, I
tossed the Rubicon shackles and installed Mountain Off Road's versions,
which are much stouter.
"Robb S via CarKB.com" <forum@CarKB.com> wrote in message
news:0c832561016146c78ecab785b1b37191@CarKB.com...
> Thanks Bill, that link looks to be very helpful, given the instructions
> given with the lift. Not too complicated, but still tryin to figure if I
> need to use the degree shims for the front axle, and how that all works.
> Big end in rear or front, etc..
>
> --
> Message posted via http://www.carkb.com
The "Big" end of the springs, that is, the military wrap, mounts to the
spring hangers on the frame, the smaller end goes to the shackle end. Both
ends have the same size bushings. Rubicon doesn't make this clear at all in
their instructions, but I clarified it with them over the phone when I
installed this kit on my '94 a few years ago.
The 2.5 degree shims are to go on both the front and the rear, however I'd
never use an aluminum shim to begin with, particularly on the front end. You
should be able to get 2 - 3 degree steel shims from a local alignment shop.
If not, you can for sure get them from Poison Spyder Customs in Denver.
Because of the 1" longer shackles that come with this kit, the front caster
will be shot to hell and it will handle like $#!t unless you add the caster
back in.
If you haven't done so yet, this is a good time to install an SYE kit in
your xfer case, with a CV rear driveshaft. Rather than fool with the shims
have your spring perches cut loose and align the pinion properly. You can
then toss the xfer case drop pucks in the trash.
This is a superb, flexy kit and the springs hold up very well. FWIW, I
tossed the Rubicon shackles and installed Mountain Off Road's versions,
which are much stouter.
"Robb S via CarKB.com" <forum@CarKB.com> wrote in message
news:0c832561016146c78ecab785b1b37191@CarKB.com...
> Thanks Bill, that link looks to be very helpful, given the instructions
> given with the lift. Not too complicated, but still tryin to figure if I
> need to use the degree shims for the front axle, and how that all works.
> Big end in rear or front, etc..
>
> --
> Message posted via http://www.carkb.com
#33
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Re: 4 1/2" Rubicon Lift
Robb, I see Rubicon's instructions for the 4.5" kit haven't impreoved! :-)
The "Big" end of the springs, that is, the military wrap, mounts to the
spring hangers on the frame, the smaller end goes to the shackle end. Both
ends have the same size bushings. Rubicon doesn't make this clear at all in
their instructions, but I clarified it with them over the phone when I
installed this kit on my '94 a few years ago.
The 2.5 degree shims are to go on both the front and the rear, however I'd
never use an aluminum shim to begin with, particularly on the front end. You
should be able to get 2 - 3 degree steel shims from a local alignment shop.
If not, you can for sure get them from Poison Spyder Customs in Denver.
Because of the 1" longer shackles that come with this kit, the front caster
will be shot to hell and it will handle like $#!t unless you add the caster
back in.
If you haven't done so yet, this is a good time to install an SYE kit in
your xfer case, with a CV rear driveshaft. Rather than fool with the shims
have your spring perches cut loose and align the pinion properly. You can
then toss the xfer case drop pucks in the trash.
This is a superb, flexy kit and the springs hold up very well. FWIW, I
tossed the Rubicon shackles and installed Mountain Off Road's versions,
which are much stouter.
"Robb S via CarKB.com" <forum@CarKB.com> wrote in message
news:0c832561016146c78ecab785b1b37191@CarKB.com...
> Thanks Bill, that link looks to be very helpful, given the instructions
> given with the lift. Not too complicated, but still tryin to figure if I
> need to use the degree shims for the front axle, and how that all works.
> Big end in rear or front, etc..
>
> --
> Message posted via http://www.carkb.com
The "Big" end of the springs, that is, the military wrap, mounts to the
spring hangers on the frame, the smaller end goes to the shackle end. Both
ends have the same size bushings. Rubicon doesn't make this clear at all in
their instructions, but I clarified it with them over the phone when I
installed this kit on my '94 a few years ago.
The 2.5 degree shims are to go on both the front and the rear, however I'd
never use an aluminum shim to begin with, particularly on the front end. You
should be able to get 2 - 3 degree steel shims from a local alignment shop.
If not, you can for sure get them from Poison Spyder Customs in Denver.
Because of the 1" longer shackles that come with this kit, the front caster
will be shot to hell and it will handle like $#!t unless you add the caster
back in.
If you haven't done so yet, this is a good time to install an SYE kit in
your xfer case, with a CV rear driveshaft. Rather than fool with the shims
have your spring perches cut loose and align the pinion properly. You can
then toss the xfer case drop pucks in the trash.
This is a superb, flexy kit and the springs hold up very well. FWIW, I
tossed the Rubicon shackles and installed Mountain Off Road's versions,
which are much stouter.
"Robb S via CarKB.com" <forum@CarKB.com> wrote in message
news:0c832561016146c78ecab785b1b37191@CarKB.com...
> Thanks Bill, that link looks to be very helpful, given the instructions
> given with the lift. Not too complicated, but still tryin to figure if I
> need to use the degree shims for the front axle, and how that all works.
> Big end in rear or front, etc..
>
> --
> Message posted via http://www.carkb.com
#34
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Re: 4 1/2" Rubicon Lift
yeah, not by much though. Mine are 4" Shims as well. Just so you know,
they did change the directions and tell you (pic too) which end for the
springs now...I put the thick part in the front of the axle. Bills link
was excellent. The way I see it on mine, is that I do Not have the cv
driveline, (YET) and putting the wedge in the rear, tilts the pinion up.
Putting it in the front keeps it level with the transfer case. At least on
mine thats what it appears to be....
Thanks everyone.....
Robb
--
Message posted via http://www.carkb.com
they did change the directions and tell you (pic too) which end for the
springs now...I put the thick part in the front of the axle. Bills link
was excellent. The way I see it on mine, is that I do Not have the cv
driveline, (YET) and putting the wedge in the rear, tilts the pinion up.
Putting it in the front keeps it level with the transfer case. At least on
mine thats what it appears to be....
Thanks everyone.....
Robb
--
Message posted via http://www.carkb.com
#35
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Re: 4 1/2" Rubicon Lift
yeah, not by much though. Mine are 4" Shims as well. Just so you know,
they did change the directions and tell you (pic too) which end for the
springs now...I put the thick part in the front of the axle. Bills link
was excellent. The way I see it on mine, is that I do Not have the cv
driveline, (YET) and putting the wedge in the rear, tilts the pinion up.
Putting it in the front keeps it level with the transfer case. At least on
mine thats what it appears to be....
Thanks everyone.....
Robb
--
Message posted via http://www.carkb.com
they did change the directions and tell you (pic too) which end for the
springs now...I put the thick part in the front of the axle. Bills link
was excellent. The way I see it on mine, is that I do Not have the cv
driveline, (YET) and putting the wedge in the rear, tilts the pinion up.
Putting it in the front keeps it level with the transfer case. At least on
mine thats what it appears to be....
Thanks everyone.....
Robb
--
Message posted via http://www.carkb.com
#36
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Re: 4 1/2" Rubicon Lift
yeah, not by much though. Mine are 4" Shims as well. Just so you know,
they did change the directions and tell you (pic too) which end for the
springs now...I put the thick part in the front of the axle. Bills link
was excellent. The way I see it on mine, is that I do Not have the cv
driveline, (YET) and putting the wedge in the rear, tilts the pinion up.
Putting it in the front keeps it level with the transfer case. At least on
mine thats what it appears to be....
Thanks everyone.....
Robb
--
Message posted via http://www.carkb.com
they did change the directions and tell you (pic too) which end for the
springs now...I put the thick part in the front of the axle. Bills link
was excellent. The way I see it on mine, is that I do Not have the cv
driveline, (YET) and putting the wedge in the rear, tilts the pinion up.
Putting it in the front keeps it level with the transfer case. At least on
mine thats what it appears to be....
Thanks everyone.....
Robb
--
Message posted via http://www.carkb.com
#37
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Re: 4 1/2" Rubicon Lift
yeah, not by much though. Mine are 4" Shims as well. Just so you know,
they did change the directions and tell you (pic too) which end for the
springs now...I put the thick part in the front of the axle. Bills link
was excellent. The way I see it on mine, is that I do Not have the cv
driveline, (YET) and putting the wedge in the rear, tilts the pinion up.
Putting it in the front keeps it level with the transfer case. At least on
mine thats what it appears to be....
Thanks everyone.....
Robb
--
Message posted via http://www.carkb.com
they did change the directions and tell you (pic too) which end for the
springs now...I put the thick part in the front of the axle. Bills link
was excellent. The way I see it on mine, is that I do Not have the cv
driveline, (YET) and putting the wedge in the rear, tilts the pinion up.
Putting it in the front keeps it level with the transfer case. At least on
mine thats what it appears to be....
Thanks everyone.....
Robb
--
Message posted via http://www.carkb.com
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