So I have to ask: If the synthetic oil makes the engine leak, what would
be the reason for switching?


On Wed, 22 Dec 2004, Eric wrote:

> I had a Stealth that I started using Mobil 1 in at about 65k miles. Found
> all sorts of holes that conventional oil didn't. Ended up needing just
> about every gasket replaced. Dealer quote: $1300 for rebuilding the engine
> with new gaskets and old parts. No way.
>
> Eric
> 99 TJ SE
> <Matt Osborn> wrote in message
> news:2ldhs01utuqhn75v148uv5dk57vuf3t2pi@4ax.com...
>> My dealer showed me an oil leak along the passenger side of the engine
>> and said my head gasket needed to be replaced. He also said that DC
>> had redesigned the head gasket to prevent these leaks fro the oil
>> galleys.
>>
>> My 2000 TJ has just over 98K miles and I switched to Mobil 1 for the
>> first time about two weeks ago. A google search turned up evidence of
>> this leak as a common problem, but most decided to ignore it as the
>> leak wasn't severe.
>>
>> Anybody know the true story here?
>
>
>

--
"A thousand ghost cows roar with laughter."
Anthony McCafferty explains urban planning in AFU.

 

So I have to ask: If the synthetic oil makes the engine leak, what would
be the reason for switching?


On Wed, 22 Dec 2004, Eric wrote:

> I had a Stealth that I started using Mobil 1 in at about 65k miles. Found
> all sorts of holes that conventional oil didn't. Ended up needing just
> about every gasket replaced. Dealer quote: $1300 for rebuilding the engine
> with new gaskets and old parts. No way.
>
> Eric
> 99 TJ SE
> <Matt Osborn> wrote in message
> news:2ldhs01utuqhn75v148uv5dk57vuf3t2pi@4ax.com...
>> My dealer showed me an oil leak along the passenger side of the engine
>> and said my head gasket needed to be replaced. He also said that DC
>> had redesigned the head gasket to prevent these leaks fro the oil
>> galleys.
>>
>> My 2000 TJ has just over 98K miles and I switched to Mobil 1 for the
>> first time about two weeks ago. A google search turned up evidence of
>> this leak as a common problem, but most decided to ignore it as the
>> leak wasn't severe.
>>
>> Anybody know the true story here?
>
>
>

--
"A thousand ghost cows roar with laughter."
Anthony McCafferty explains urban planning in AFU.

 

It has gone through a couple of more steps in refinement, therefore
a better lubricate. But I have no problem with Pennzoil 20/50 in my old
cars with over three hundreds thousand, no sludge, not even a brown
tarnish on the oil filler caps or Positive Crankcase Ventilation valves.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Lee Ayrton wrote:
>
> So I have to ask: If the synthetic oil makes the engine leak, what would
> be the reason for switching?
> --
> "A thousand ghost cows roar with laughter."
> Anthony McCafferty explains urban planning in AFU.

 

It has gone through a couple of more steps in refinement, therefore
a better lubricate. But I have no problem with Pennzoil 20/50 in my old
cars with over three hundreds thousand, no sludge, not even a brown
tarnish on the oil filler caps or Positive Crankcase Ventilation valves.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Lee Ayrton wrote:
>
> So I have to ask: If the synthetic oil makes the engine leak, what would
> be the reason for switching?
> --
> "A thousand ghost cows roar with laughter."
> Anthony McCafferty explains urban planning in AFU.

 

It has gone through a couple of more steps in refinement, therefore
a better lubricate. But I have no problem with Pennzoil 20/50 in my old
cars with over three hundreds thousand, no sludge, not even a brown
tarnish on the oil filler caps or Positive Crankcase Ventilation valves.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Lee Ayrton wrote:
>
> So I have to ask: If the synthetic oil makes the engine leak, what would
> be the reason for switching?
> --
> "A thousand ghost cows roar with laughter."
> Anthony McCafferty explains urban planning in AFU.

 

The sales droids have folks convinced it 'must' be better because it is
'synthetic' and costs 4 times as much.

They forget to mention that the word 'synthetic' means absolutely
'Nothing' legally so they can use the regular old oil add a chemical or
tweak a chemical and charge 4 times extra by putting the name
'synthetic' on it.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Lee Ayrton wrote:
>
> So I have to ask: If the synthetic oil makes the engine leak, what would
> be the reason for switching?
>
> On Wed, 22 Dec 2004, Eric wrote:
>
> > I had a Stealth that I started using Mobil 1 in at about 65k miles. Found
> > all sorts of holes that conventional oil didn't. Ended up needing just
> > about every gasket replaced. Dealer quote: $1300 for rebuilding the engine
> > with new gaskets and old parts. No way.
> >
> > Eric
> > 99 TJ SE
> > <Matt Osborn> wrote in message
> > news:2ldhs01utuqhn75v148uv5dk57vuf3t2pi@4ax.com...
> >> My dealer showed me an oil leak along the passenger side of the engine
> >> and said my head gasket needed to be replaced. He also said that DC
> >> had redesigned the head gasket to prevent these leaks fro the oil
> >> galleys.
> >>
> >> My 2000 TJ has just over 98K miles and I switched to Mobil 1 for the
> >> first time about two weeks ago. A google search turned up evidence of
> >> this leak as a common problem, but most decided to ignore it as the
> >> leak wasn't severe.
> >>
> >> Anybody know the true story here?
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> "A thousand ghost cows roar with laughter."
> Anthony McCafferty explains urban planning in AFU.

 

The sales droids have folks convinced it 'must' be better because it is
'synthetic' and costs 4 times as much.

They forget to mention that the word 'synthetic' means absolutely
'Nothing' legally so they can use the regular old oil add a chemical or
tweak a chemical and charge 4 times extra by putting the name
'synthetic' on it.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Lee Ayrton wrote:
>
> So I have to ask: If the synthetic oil makes the engine leak, what would
> be the reason for switching?
>
> On Wed, 22 Dec 2004, Eric wrote:
>
> > I had a Stealth that I started using Mobil 1 in at about 65k miles. Found
> > all sorts of holes that conventional oil didn't. Ended up needing just
> > about every gasket replaced. Dealer quote: $1300 for rebuilding the engine
> > with new gaskets and old parts. No way.
> >
> > Eric
> > 99 TJ SE
> > <Matt Osborn> wrote in message
> > news:2ldhs01utuqhn75v148uv5dk57vuf3t2pi@4ax.com...
> >> My dealer showed me an oil leak along the passenger side of the engine
> >> and said my head gasket needed to be replaced. He also said that DC
> >> had redesigned the head gasket to prevent these leaks fro the oil
> >> galleys.
> >>
> >> My 2000 TJ has just over 98K miles and I switched to Mobil 1 for the
> >> first time about two weeks ago. A google search turned up evidence of
> >> this leak as a common problem, but most decided to ignore it as the
> >> leak wasn't severe.
> >>
> >> Anybody know the true story here?
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> "A thousand ghost cows roar with laughter."
> Anthony McCafferty explains urban planning in AFU.

 

The sales droids have folks convinced it 'must' be better because it is
'synthetic' and costs 4 times as much.

They forget to mention that the word 'synthetic' means absolutely
'Nothing' legally so they can use the regular old oil add a chemical or
tweak a chemical and charge 4 times extra by putting the name
'synthetic' on it.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Lee Ayrton wrote:
>
> So I have to ask: If the synthetic oil makes the engine leak, what would
> be the reason for switching?
>
> On Wed, 22 Dec 2004, Eric wrote:
>
> > I had a Stealth that I started using Mobil 1 in at about 65k miles. Found
> > all sorts of holes that conventional oil didn't. Ended up needing just
> > about every gasket replaced. Dealer quote: $1300 for rebuilding the engine
> > with new gaskets and old parts. No way.
> >
> > Eric
> > 99 TJ SE
> > <Matt Osborn> wrote in message
> > news:2ldhs01utuqhn75v148uv5dk57vuf3t2pi@4ax.com...
> >> My dealer showed me an oil leak along the passenger side of the engine
> >> and said my head gasket needed to be replaced. He also said that DC
> >> had redesigned the head gasket to prevent these leaks fro the oil
> >> galleys.
> >>
> >> My 2000 TJ has just over 98K miles and I switched to Mobil 1 for the
> >> first time about two weeks ago. A google search turned up evidence of
> >> this leak as a common problem, but most decided to ignore it as the
> >> leak wasn't severe.
> >>
> >> Anybody know the true story here?
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> "A thousand ghost cows roar with laughter."
> Anthony McCafferty explains urban planning in AFU.

 

On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 10:15:50 -0500, Lee Ayrton <layrton@panix.com>
wrote:

>So I have to ask: If the synthetic oil makes the engine leak, what would
>be the reason for switching?
>

Minnesota winters. It's parked in a lot over a block from where I
live. Starting at -20F is a challenge even with new a new battery.

 

On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 10:15:50 -0500, Lee Ayrton <layrton@panix.com>
wrote:

>So I have to ask: If the synthetic oil makes the engine leak, what would
>be the reason for switching?
>

Minnesota winters. It's parked in a lot over a block from where I
live. Starting at -20F is a challenge even with new a new battery.