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Lon Stowell 07-19-2003 01:44 PM

Re: 4.0?!?!
 
Grumman-581 wrote:

> A.H. MacIntosh wrote ...
>> 120 in a ford? I didn't know tow trucks went that fast!

>
> They do in Houston...
>
>

And Chicago.

I've been trying, will little luck, to find the story of
the automobile mag back in the '60's that took a reasonably
stock 1966 427 Impala and an Airstream trailer to Bonneville
and set a land speed record for passenger car towing an
Airstream trailer. Thought it was Motor Trend, but unable
to find it so far.


Brand Howard 07-19-2003 11:01 PM

Re: 4.0?!?!
 
What the deal with this 80mph thing? I can barley pull 80mph in fourth with
the wind on my side. The fact that I have 31" tires and 3.07 gears probably
has something to do with it. I think when I put 32" tires on I'll put a
Ford 8.8 and regear to 4.10.

Brand Howard
www.jeeproject.com



Grumman-581 07-20-2003 02:33 AM

Re: 4.0?!?!
 
"Lon Stowell" wrote ...
> As for your ticket, WHERE?


Texas... Missouri City actually... At least that's where the cops were
waiting for me... Long stretch of TX-6 and it was around 03:00 and I was on
my way home after having worked at NASA all night...

> In many states going more than 15 or 25 over the
> limit was usually an instant take in, car and all, with instant
> cell time for speeds over 100.


Not in Texas... We understand that speeding is a way of revenue and we don't
do things that would tend to cut our revenue source...

> And only a lousy $200?!?!


Yep... That's the max that you can get in the state -- $200 + court costs
(around $35, IIRC)...

> I got nailed for a measly 95 in a 55 in California and it ended
> up costing about $775.


That's just one of your 'advantages' of living in the People's Republic of
Kalifornia...

> Can I move to where you got this cheap
> ticket?


As long as you aren't one of those socialist (aka Democrat) liberals who
want to repel the 2nd Amendment... BTW, no state income tax also...
<evil-grin>



Eric 07-20-2003 02:43 AM

Re: 4.0?!?!
 
"Yep... That's the max that you can get in the state -- $200 + court costs"

My wife was doing 120mph in a 55 (never got clocked, actually, the officer
had to do 98mph to catch her, so that was the speed she was busted for).
Her fees were $375+. That was in San Antonio, TX, in 1999. I don't think
they've changed the laws that much since then...

Oh, AND they made her take defensive driving classes too.

Eric
"Grumman-581" <grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM.houston.rr.com> wrote in message
news:zIqSa.95908$TJ.5514328@twister.austin.rr.com. ..
> "Lon Stowell" wrote ...
> > As for your ticket, WHERE?

>
> Texas... Missouri City actually... At least that's where the cops were
> waiting for me... Long stretch of TX-6 and it was around 03:00 and I was

on
> my way home after having worked at NASA all night...
>
> > In many states going more than 15 or 25 over the
> > limit was usually an instant take in, car and all, with instant
> > cell time for speeds over 100.

>
> Not in Texas... We understand that speeding is a way of revenue and we

don't
> do things that would tend to cut our revenue source...
>
> > And only a lousy $200?!?!

>
> Yep... That's the max that you can get in the state -- $200 + court costs
> (around $35, IIRC)...
>
> > I got nailed for a measly 95 in a 55 in California and it ended
> > up costing about $775.

>
> That's just one of your 'advantages' of living in the People's Republic of
> Kalifornia...
>
> > Can I move to where you got this cheap
> > ticket?

>
> As long as you aren't one of those socialist (aka Democrat) liberals who
> want to repel the 2nd Amendment... BTW, no state income tax also...
> <evil-grin>
>
>




Grumman-581 07-20-2003 03:44 AM

Re: 4.0?!?!
 
"Eric" wrote ...
> My wife was doing 120mph in a 55 (never got clocked, actually, the officer
> had to do 98mph to catch her, so that was the speed she was busted for).
> Her fees were $375+. That was in San Antonio, TX, in 1999. I don't

think
> they've changed the laws that much since then...
>
> Oh, AND they made her take defensive driving classes too.


They must have tacked on some more "court cost" crap for the defensive
driving aspect of it... A few months ago, I saw where they were wanting to
raise the maxium fine from $200 to something like $500... They couldn't get
enough support for it though from what I understand... Was the ticket only
for speeding? They didn't try to trump up any other bogus charges?
Construction zone, perhaps? That's good for doubling the fines...



Lon Stowell 07-20-2003 01:32 PM

Re: 4.0?!?!
 
Grumman-581 wrote:

> "Lon Stowell" wrote ...
>> As for your ticket, WHERE?

>
> Texas... Missouri City actually... At least that's where the cops were
> waiting for me... Long stretch of TX-6 and it was around 03:00 and I was on
> my way home after having worked at NASA all night...


Ahh that explains it. Long before my first move to Texas, I
got hit in a small town just east of El Paso for doing 85 in
a 65 zone. After writing up the ticket, the officer asked if
I was familiar with the concept of "the misdemeanor law" in Texas.

"Deliverance" wasn't out yet, but I began getting similar visions
of how Texas treated out of state speeders.... When I got
enough guts to say "no", the trooper told me that my speeding
was just a misdemeanor and that if I had no plans to return to
that same county for [mumble] years in the future, there wasn't
really much they could do about collecting on the ticket...and
more or less directly told me I could keep it as a souvenir of
Texas and told me to keep it down plus the location of two speed
traps on my route out of there.


> That's just one of your 'advantages' of living in the People's Republic of
> Kalifornia...
>
>> Can I move to where you got this cheap
>> ticket?

>
> As long as you aren't one of those socialist (aka Democrat) liberals who
> want to repel the 2nd Amendment... BTW, no state income tax also...
> <evil-grin>


Have lived in Texas twice. Once in El Paso and would move back
tomorrow if could find good employment there. The other time in
Plano/Dallas and well.... it ain't west Texas.


Eric 07-20-2003 03:24 PM

Re: 4.0?!?!
 
Actually, yes, she was in a construction zone. BUT, they didn't annotate
that. *shrug* Who knows. I know it cost her a bunch of money. We had
just started dating... good impression, huh? ;-)

All I can say is good thing she had 9 years of classical ballet under her
belt... no one else could have passed that sobriety test. Heck, I couldn't
do it sober! It's amazing how that stuff sticks with a person years after
they've stopped..

Eric
"Grumman-581" <grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM.houston.rr.com> wrote in message
news:rLrSa.96049$TJ.5521501@twister.austin.rr.com. ..
> "Eric" wrote ...
> > My wife was doing 120mph in a 55 (never got clocked, actually, the

officer
> > had to do 98mph to catch her, so that was the speed she was busted for).
> > Her fees were $375+. That was in San Antonio, TX, in 1999. I don't

> think
> > they've changed the laws that much since then...
> >
> > Oh, AND they made her take defensive driving classes too.

>
> They must have tacked on some more "court cost" crap for the defensive
> driving aspect of it... A few months ago, I saw where they were wanting to
> raise the maxium fine from $200 to something like $500... They couldn't

get
> enough support for it though from what I understand... Was the ticket only
> for speeding? They didn't try to trump up any other bogus charges?
> Construction zone, perhaps? That's good for doubling the fines...
>
>




Grumman-581 07-20-2003 09:16 PM

Re: 4.0?!?!
 
"Lon Stowell" wrote ...
> Ahh that explains it. Long before my first move to Texas, I
> got hit in a small town just east of El Paso for doing 85 in
> a 65 zone. After writing up the ticket, the officer asked if
> I was familiar with the concept of "the misdemeanor law" in Texas.
>
> "Deliverance" wasn't out yet, but I began getting similar visions
> of how Texas treated out of state speeders.... When I got
> enough guts to say "no", the trooper told me that my speeding
> was just a misdemeanor and that if I had no plans to return to
> that same county for [mumble] years in the future, there wasn't
> really much they could do about collecting on the ticket...and
> more or less directly told me I could keep it as a souvenir of
> Texas and told me to keep it down plus the location of two speed
> traps on my route out of there.


Actually, that is not quite the way it works, but it is not surprising that
a cop would not know the law...

If the state has an agreement with the offender's state and you fail to pay
the ticket, it can prevent you from being able to renew your driver's
license in your home state... A state cannot extradite you for a
misdemeanor, but if they were to catch you in their state within a certain
number of years (whatever their statute of limitations is for that crime),
they will arrest you and you will get stuck paying the fine plus a failure
to appear fine... If you are just from a different county, they can still
get you... Here's what will happen:

You get a ticket... You ignore the ticket... Your court appearance date come
up where you are supposed to plead guilty or not guilty and you don't show
up... The court issues a bench warrant for your arrest... If you ever get
stopped in that state within a certain number of years, when the cop is
running your license, you will get arrested and be forced to pay a bond that
is pretty much usually equal to the original cost of the ticket plus the
failure to appear fine / bond... The will then set you another court date
and if you fail to appear on that one, you will forfeit the bond and it will
be treated as a guilty plea... The failure to appear fine / bond is usually
more than the original speeding ticket...

When I was in the Navy and stationed out of Norfolk, VA, I tended to get
quite a few speeding tickets (I rode a motorcycle and cops back then just
hated bikers)... Everytime my court date came up, it seemed that I was out
at sea, so I was able to get the failure to appear to be dropped and the
original court date rescheduled... My enlistment was nearly up, so I kept
rescheduling the court dates until I was out of the Navy and then I left the
state without paying any of the fines... I think I had over $1000 worth of
speeding tickets when I left the state... I wasn't planning on coming back
to Virginia, so I figured that I was pretty safe... Afterwards, I got a
license in another state and thus the possibility that I couldn't renew my
Virginia license didn't affect me...




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