jbjeep

Depends on your state laws.

WA doesnt require it, even if it came with it (as of 1999 when I asked about this).



On Wed, 04 Feb 2004 13:38:17 GMT, JVC <shady360@NOSPAMoptonline.net> wrote:

>>Does anyone know if there is a state or federal law requiring a 3rd
>>brake light? Has anyone purchased a rear bumper/tire carrier combo and
>>somehow mounted their 3rd brake light to it?? I have a feeling they
>>will flunk me at inspection here in Jersey if I don't have it. Any help
>>would be great.
>>
>>TIA,
>>
>>Jay

jbjeep

Depends on your state laws.

WA doesnt require it, even if it came with it (as of 1999 when I asked about this).



On Wed, 04 Feb 2004 13:38:17 GMT, JVC <shady360@NOSPAMoptonline.net> wrote:

>>Does anyone know if there is a state or federal law requiring a 3rd
>>brake light? Has anyone purchased a rear bumper/tire carrier combo and
>>somehow mounted their 3rd brake light to it?? I have a feeling they
>>will flunk me at inspection here in Jersey if I don't have it. Any help
>>would be great.
>>
>>TIA,
>>
>>Jay

jbjeep

Depends on your state laws.

WA doesnt require it, even if it came with it (as of 1999 when I asked about this).



On Wed, 04 Feb 2004 13:38:17 GMT, JVC <shady360@NOSPAMoptonline.net> wrote:

>>Does anyone know if there is a state or federal law requiring a 3rd
>>brake light? Has anyone purchased a rear bumper/tire carrier combo and
>>somehow mounted their 3rd brake light to it?? I have a feeling they
>>will flunk me at inspection here in Jersey if I don't have it. Any help
>>would be great.
>>
>>TIA,
>>
>>Jay

Jerry Bransford

Most states, and all of them if I recall correctly, refer to Federal DOT
requirements as the basic requirements for their states too. That way they
don't have to dupliate the Federal mandates like the 3rd brake light,
bumpers, windshields, headlights, etc..

Jerry
--
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To email, remove 'me' from my email address
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"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
news:kb9320l3udviuj805ui0bjmbtqef6bsp5l@4ax.com...
> Depends on your state laws.
>
> WA doesnt require it, even if it came with it (as of 1999 when I asked
about this).
>
>
>
> On Wed, 04 Feb 2004 13:38:17 GMT, JVC <shady360@NOSPAMoptonline.net>
wrote:
>
> >>Does anyone know if there is a state or federal law requiring a 3rd
> >>brake light? Has anyone purchased a rear bumper/tire carrier combo and
> >>somehow mounted their 3rd brake light to it?? I have a feeling they
> >>will flunk me at inspection here in Jersey if I don't have it. Any help
> >>would be great.
> >>
> >>TIA,
> >>
> >>Jay
>

Jerry Bransford

Most states, and all of them if I recall correctly, refer to Federal DOT
requirements as the basic requirements for their states too. That way they
don't have to dupliate the Federal mandates like the 3rd brake light,
bumpers, windshields, headlights, etc..

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
N6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/

"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
news:kb9320l3udviuj805ui0bjmbtqef6bsp5l@4ax.com...
> Depends on your state laws.
>
> WA doesnt require it, even if it came with it (as of 1999 when I asked
about this).
>
>
>
> On Wed, 04 Feb 2004 13:38:17 GMT, JVC <shady360@NOSPAMoptonline.net>
wrote:
>
> >>Does anyone know if there is a state or federal law requiring a 3rd
> >>brake light? Has anyone purchased a rear bumper/tire carrier combo and
> >>somehow mounted their 3rd brake light to it?? I have a feeling they
> >>will flunk me at inspection here in Jersey if I don't have it. Any help
> >>would be great.
> >>
> >>TIA,
> >>
> >>Jay
>

Jerry Bransford

Most states, and all of them if I recall correctly, refer to Federal DOT
requirements as the basic requirements for their states too. That way they
don't have to dupliate the Federal mandates like the 3rd brake light,
bumpers, windshields, headlights, etc..

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
N6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/

"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
news:kb9320l3udviuj805ui0bjmbtqef6bsp5l@4ax.com...
> Depends on your state laws.
>
> WA doesnt require it, even if it came with it (as of 1999 when I asked
about this).
>
>
>
> On Wed, 04 Feb 2004 13:38:17 GMT, JVC <shady360@NOSPAMoptonline.net>
wrote:
>
> >>Does anyone know if there is a state or federal law requiring a 3rd
> >>brake light? Has anyone purchased a rear bumper/tire carrier combo and
> >>somehow mounted their 3rd brake light to it?? I have a feeling they
> >>will flunk me at inspection here in Jersey if I don't have it. Any help
> >>would be great.
> >>
> >>TIA,
> >>
> >>Jay
>

Tomes

I had the honor of being the very first person to fail at my local
inspection station in Flemington NJ for a burnt out third brake light on an
old '86 Nova I once had. That must have been in 1990 or so. At the time
they did not know what to do about it <grin>. The rule as they explained it
once they looked it up at that time was that if it came on the vehicle it
must work. It is my belief that they now have some manner of charts so they
know which vehicles came with one and which did not. Based upon this, I
believe that you will not get away with taking one off.
Hoping this helps,
Tomes

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:40215E8E.E322459@***.net...
> I can't find New Jersey's vehicle code, other than they shouldn't
> cover it with tinted glass: http://www.state.nj.us/mvc/cleanair/faq.html
> and it doesn't specifically call for a third light on their SMOG
> inspection: http://www.nj.gov/mvc/driver_manual/03pt6b.html Gas cans
> work for me: http://www.----------.com/jeep68sand.jpg Of course only
> Mexicans required the third light back in the seventies
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Paul Calman wrote:
> >
> > California requires that if one was factry installed, it be in working
> > order. You are free to install one, here. I kind of like the one Jeep
> > installed over the spare. Check NJ law, but it's probably the same.
> > I put the license and a flood lamp in my spare, i guess the gas cans act
> > like a brake light?
> >
http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/arb...!+Photo+Album&
..dnm=CowellsCreek4.jpg
> > The bumper sticker says "Flat Landers Suck", a gift from a county
supervisor
> > candidate.
> >
> > --
> > Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California

Tomes

I had the honor of being the very first person to fail at my local
inspection station in Flemington NJ for a burnt out third brake light on an
old '86 Nova I once had. That must have been in 1990 or so. At the time
they did not know what to do about it <grin>. The rule as they explained it
once they looked it up at that time was that if it came on the vehicle it
must work. It is my belief that they now have some manner of charts so they
know which vehicles came with one and which did not. Based upon this, I
believe that you will not get away with taking one off.
Hoping this helps,
Tomes

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:40215E8E.E322459@***.net...
> I can't find New Jersey's vehicle code, other than they shouldn't
> cover it with tinted glass: http://www.state.nj.us/mvc/cleanair/faq.html
> and it doesn't specifically call for a third light on their SMOG
> inspection: http://www.nj.gov/mvc/driver_manual/03pt6b.html Gas cans
> work for me: http://www.----------.com/jeep68sand.jpg Of course only
> Mexicans required the third light back in the seventies
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Paul Calman wrote:
> >
> > California requires that if one was factry installed, it be in working
> > order. You are free to install one, here. I kind of like the one Jeep
> > installed over the spare. Check NJ law, but it's probably the same.
> > I put the license and a flood lamp in my spare, i guess the gas cans act
> > like a brake light?
> >
http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/arb...!+Photo+Album&
..dnm=CowellsCreek4.jpg
> > The bumper sticker says "Flat Landers Suck", a gift from a county
supervisor
> > candidate.
> >
> > --
> > Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California

Tomes

I had the honor of being the very first person to fail at my local
inspection station in Flemington NJ for a burnt out third brake light on an
old '86 Nova I once had. That must have been in 1990 or so. At the time
they did not know what to do about it <grin>. The rule as they explained it
once they looked it up at that time was that if it came on the vehicle it
must work. It is my belief that they now have some manner of charts so they
know which vehicles came with one and which did not. Based upon this, I
believe that you will not get away with taking one off.
Hoping this helps,
Tomes

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:40215E8E.E322459@***.net...
> I can't find New Jersey's vehicle code, other than they shouldn't
> cover it with tinted glass: http://www.state.nj.us/mvc/cleanair/faq.html
> and it doesn't specifically call for a third light on their SMOG
> inspection: http://www.nj.gov/mvc/driver_manual/03pt6b.html Gas cans
> work for me: http://www.----------.com/jeep68sand.jpg Of course only
> Mexicans required the third light back in the seventies
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Paul Calman wrote:
> >
> > California requires that if one was factry installed, it be in working
> > order. You are free to install one, here. I kind of like the one Jeep
> > installed over the spare. Check NJ law, but it's probably the same.
> > I put the license and a flood lamp in my spare, i guess the gas cans act
> > like a brake light?
> >
http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/arb...!+Photo+Album&
..dnm=CowellsCreek4.jpg
> > The bumper sticker says "Flat Landers Suck", a gift from a county
supervisor
> > candidate.
> >
> > --
> > Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California

jbjeep

So what's the Fed DOT requirements?

I just called the local sheriff's office and asked.


On Wed, 4 Feb 2004 18:17:26 -0800, "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote:

>>Most states, and all of them if I recall correctly, refer to Federal DOT
>>requirements as the basic requirements for their states too. That way they
>>don't have to dupliate the Federal mandates like the 3rd brake light,
>>bumpers, windshields, headlights, etc..
>>
>>Jerry