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Re: 2wd wranglers
I hardly think a big rig compares to a 2wd pickup/SUV. A full size big rig
has got dual rear axles, with a total of eight rear 40" tires, and generally the ability to lock both rear axles. This is a far sight from a pickup on 28" tires with only one rear wheel spinning in the mud. Carl "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message news:F7WdnWBsncuVxLTYnZ2dnUVZ_rCdnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > And, when driven by someone with minimal skills, will go pretty much > anywhere that a 4x4 will except for poor traction or really rough trails. > As 2wd pickup and truck drivers have known for decades. > It if gets too rough for an International with dualies, you are probably > gonna need a cat or tractor anyway. > > Brett Ryan proclaimed: > >> Troy, >> I think that people who would buy such a thing would have no clue in >> how to drive off road. Heck, I've known a lot of jeep owners that have >> no clue about how to drive on a paved road. This is a move by DC's >> marketing group. It will sell, and sell in good numbers to those who >> like the Jeep "look" but don't want anything else from a Jeep. >> >> Brett >> >> Troy wrote: >> >>> I swear if any of you guys/girls get a 2wd wrangler and get stuck I'm >>> gonna laugh at you before I offer the tow rope, oh and take a picture >>> too. I just checked out the 07's on the website. At least only the 4 >>> door wranglers will be 2wd from what I can tell. >>> >>> Troy >>> |
Re: 2wd wranglers
I think mud would count as poor traction <G>
I've driven my little old Studebaker pickup through stuff that would get your average soccer mom in a Liberty hopelessly stuck. Jeff DeWitt Carl wrote: > I hardly think a big rig compares to a 2wd pickup/SUV. A full size big rig > has got dual rear axles, with a total of eight rear 40" tires, and generally > the ability to lock both rear axles. This is a far sight from a pickup on > 28" tires with only one rear wheel spinning in the mud. > > Carl > > > "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:F7WdnWBsncuVxLTYnZ2dnUVZ_rCdnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > >>And, when driven by someone with minimal skills, will go pretty much >>anywhere that a 4x4 will except for poor traction or really rough trails. >>As 2wd pickup and truck drivers have known for decades. >>It if gets too rough for an International with dualies, you are probably >>gonna need a cat or tractor anyway. >> >>Brett Ryan proclaimed: >> >> >>>Troy, >>> I think that people who would buy such a thing would have no clue in >>>how to drive off road. Heck, I've known a lot of jeep owners that have >>>no clue about how to drive on a paved road. This is a move by DC's >>>marketing group. It will sell, and sell in good numbers to those who >>>like the Jeep "look" but don't want anything else from a Jeep. >>> >>>Brett >>> >>>Troy wrote: >>> >>> >>>>I swear if any of you guys/girls get a 2wd wrangler and get stuck I'm >>>>gonna laugh at you before I offer the tow rope, oh and take a picture >>>>too. I just checked out the 07's on the website. At least only the 4 >>>>door wranglers will be 2wd from what I can tell. >>>> >>>>Troy >>>> > > > |
Re: 2wd wranglers
I think mud would count as poor traction <G>
I've driven my little old Studebaker pickup through stuff that would get your average soccer mom in a Liberty hopelessly stuck. Jeff DeWitt Carl wrote: > I hardly think a big rig compares to a 2wd pickup/SUV. A full size big rig > has got dual rear axles, with a total of eight rear 40" tires, and generally > the ability to lock both rear axles. This is a far sight from a pickup on > 28" tires with only one rear wheel spinning in the mud. > > Carl > > > "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:F7WdnWBsncuVxLTYnZ2dnUVZ_rCdnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > >>And, when driven by someone with minimal skills, will go pretty much >>anywhere that a 4x4 will except for poor traction or really rough trails. >>As 2wd pickup and truck drivers have known for decades. >>It if gets too rough for an International with dualies, you are probably >>gonna need a cat or tractor anyway. >> >>Brett Ryan proclaimed: >> >> >>>Troy, >>> I think that people who would buy such a thing would have no clue in >>>how to drive off road. Heck, I've known a lot of jeep owners that have >>>no clue about how to drive on a paved road. This is a move by DC's >>>marketing group. It will sell, and sell in good numbers to those who >>>like the Jeep "look" but don't want anything else from a Jeep. >>> >>>Brett >>> >>>Troy wrote: >>> >>> >>>>I swear if any of you guys/girls get a 2wd wrangler and get stuck I'm >>>>gonna laugh at you before I offer the tow rope, oh and take a picture >>>>too. I just checked out the 07's on the website. At least only the 4 >>>>door wranglers will be 2wd from what I can tell. >>>> >>>>Troy >>>> > > > |
Re: 2wd wranglers
I think mud would count as poor traction <G>
I've driven my little old Studebaker pickup through stuff that would get your average soccer mom in a Liberty hopelessly stuck. Jeff DeWitt Carl wrote: > I hardly think a big rig compares to a 2wd pickup/SUV. A full size big rig > has got dual rear axles, with a total of eight rear 40" tires, and generally > the ability to lock both rear axles. This is a far sight from a pickup on > 28" tires with only one rear wheel spinning in the mud. > > Carl > > > "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:F7WdnWBsncuVxLTYnZ2dnUVZ_rCdnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > >>And, when driven by someone with minimal skills, will go pretty much >>anywhere that a 4x4 will except for poor traction or really rough trails. >>As 2wd pickup and truck drivers have known for decades. >>It if gets too rough for an International with dualies, you are probably >>gonna need a cat or tractor anyway. >> >>Brett Ryan proclaimed: >> >> >>>Troy, >>> I think that people who would buy such a thing would have no clue in >>>how to drive off road. Heck, I've known a lot of jeep owners that have >>>no clue about how to drive on a paved road. This is a move by DC's >>>marketing group. It will sell, and sell in good numbers to those who >>>like the Jeep "look" but don't want anything else from a Jeep. >>> >>>Brett >>> >>>Troy wrote: >>> >>> >>>>I swear if any of you guys/girls get a 2wd wrangler and get stuck I'm >>>>gonna laugh at you before I offer the tow rope, oh and take a picture >>>>too. I just checked out the 07's on the website. At least only the 4 >>>>door wranglers will be 2wd from what I can tell. >>>> >>>>Troy >>>> > > > |
Re: 2wd wranglers
Scott in Baltimore wrote:
> Brett Ryan wrote: >> Troy, >> I think that people who would buy such a thing would have no clue >> in how to drive off road. Heck, I've known a lot of jeep owners that >> have no clue about how to drive on a paved road. This is a move by >> DC's marketing group. It will sell, and sell in good numbers to those >> who like the Jeep "look" but don't want anything else from a Jeep. >> >> Brett > > > Do the 2WD's come with real soft springs, extra insulation and AC standard? > How about a few inches lower to the ground so the opposite --- can get > in easier? > > (My mom has a hell of a time getting in and out of a relative stocker!) That I do not know about, or could care less about... I think that the 2WD would be a "Mall Crawler" or a "Beach Bummer" for those who want image only. I will be interesting to see who the actual customers will be. Kinda like the buyers of those H2's. Big, fancy, loaded with gadgets and leather seats, all which will break or get destroyed in an off-road environment. > > > >> Troy wrote: >>> I swear if any of you guys/girls get a 2wd wrangler and get stuck I'm >>> gonna laugh at you before I offer the tow rope, oh and take a picture >>> too. I just checked out the 07's on the website. At least only the >>> 4 door wranglers will be 2wd from what I can tell. >>> >>> Troy >>> > > > '97 SE Wrangler |
Re: 2wd wranglers
Scott in Baltimore wrote:
> Brett Ryan wrote: >> Troy, >> I think that people who would buy such a thing would have no clue >> in how to drive off road. Heck, I've known a lot of jeep owners that >> have no clue about how to drive on a paved road. This is a move by >> DC's marketing group. It will sell, and sell in good numbers to those >> who like the Jeep "look" but don't want anything else from a Jeep. >> >> Brett > > > Do the 2WD's come with real soft springs, extra insulation and AC standard? > How about a few inches lower to the ground so the opposite --- can get > in easier? > > (My mom has a hell of a time getting in and out of a relative stocker!) That I do not know about, or could care less about... I think that the 2WD would be a "Mall Crawler" or a "Beach Bummer" for those who want image only. I will be interesting to see who the actual customers will be. Kinda like the buyers of those H2's. Big, fancy, loaded with gadgets and leather seats, all which will break or get destroyed in an off-road environment. > > > >> Troy wrote: >>> I swear if any of you guys/girls get a 2wd wrangler and get stuck I'm >>> gonna laugh at you before I offer the tow rope, oh and take a picture >>> too. I just checked out the 07's on the website. At least only the >>> 4 door wranglers will be 2wd from what I can tell. >>> >>> Troy >>> > > > '97 SE Wrangler |
Re: 2wd wranglers
Scott in Baltimore wrote:
> Brett Ryan wrote: >> Troy, >> I think that people who would buy such a thing would have no clue >> in how to drive off road. Heck, I've known a lot of jeep owners that >> have no clue about how to drive on a paved road. This is a move by >> DC's marketing group. It will sell, and sell in good numbers to those >> who like the Jeep "look" but don't want anything else from a Jeep. >> >> Brett > > > Do the 2WD's come with real soft springs, extra insulation and AC standard? > How about a few inches lower to the ground so the opposite --- can get > in easier? > > (My mom has a hell of a time getting in and out of a relative stocker!) That I do not know about, or could care less about... I think that the 2WD would be a "Mall Crawler" or a "Beach Bummer" for those who want image only. I will be interesting to see who the actual customers will be. Kinda like the buyers of those H2's. Big, fancy, loaded with gadgets and leather seats, all which will break or get destroyed in an off-road environment. > > > >> Troy wrote: >>> I swear if any of you guys/girls get a 2wd wrangler and get stuck I'm >>> gonna laugh at you before I offer the tow rope, oh and take a picture >>> too. I just checked out the 07's on the website. At least only the >>> 4 door wranglers will be 2wd from what I can tell. >>> >>> Troy >>> > > > '97 SE Wrangler |
Re: 2wd wranglers
---- on a bore hog comes to mind.
Coasty "Outatime" <WhoKnows@here.com> wrote in message news:KsKdnc1ub7Co-LXYnZ2dnUVZ_tadnZ2d@softcom.net... > Earle Horton wrote: > >> Give 'em a break. Would you rather go to the mall or soccer practice in >> a >> 2wd Liberty, or a 2wd Wrangler? What about cruisin' the local community >> college for members of the opposite ---? You could just lower it, and >> put >> monster speakers in the back. Boom, boom, boom, top down with those free >> wheelin' hub caps spinnin' away like there's no tomorrow. "Hey Daryl, >> play >> 'Closer' again!" > > > I'm with Troy on this one. Not only will I take pictures, laugh out loud, > but I'll also take $50 bucks cash before I even hook up the D-shackle. > > The only thing worse than someone who spends $50K on a 4WD Utility Truck > and never leaves pavement, is someone who spends $17k on a 2WD Wrangler > who DOES leave pavement. I'm surrounded by enough idiots as it is. |
Re: 2wd wranglers
---- on a bore hog comes to mind.
Coasty "Outatime" <WhoKnows@here.com> wrote in message news:KsKdnc1ub7Co-LXYnZ2dnUVZ_tadnZ2d@softcom.net... > Earle Horton wrote: > >> Give 'em a break. Would you rather go to the mall or soccer practice in >> a >> 2wd Liberty, or a 2wd Wrangler? What about cruisin' the local community >> college for members of the opposite ---? You could just lower it, and >> put >> monster speakers in the back. Boom, boom, boom, top down with those free >> wheelin' hub caps spinnin' away like there's no tomorrow. "Hey Daryl, >> play >> 'Closer' again!" > > > I'm with Troy on this one. Not only will I take pictures, laugh out loud, > but I'll also take $50 bucks cash before I even hook up the D-shackle. > > The only thing worse than someone who spends $50K on a 4WD Utility Truck > and never leaves pavement, is someone who spends $17k on a 2WD Wrangler > who DOES leave pavement. I'm surrounded by enough idiots as it is. |
Re: 2wd wranglers
---- on a bore hog comes to mind.
Coasty "Outatime" <WhoKnows@here.com> wrote in message news:KsKdnc1ub7Co-LXYnZ2dnUVZ_tadnZ2d@softcom.net... > Earle Horton wrote: > >> Give 'em a break. Would you rather go to the mall or soccer practice in >> a >> 2wd Liberty, or a 2wd Wrangler? What about cruisin' the local community >> college for members of the opposite ---? You could just lower it, and >> put >> monster speakers in the back. Boom, boom, boom, top down with those free >> wheelin' hub caps spinnin' away like there's no tomorrow. "Hey Daryl, >> play >> 'Closer' again!" > > > I'm with Troy on this one. Not only will I take pictures, laugh out loud, > but I'll also take $50 bucks cash before I even hook up the D-shackle. > > The only thing worse than someone who spends $50K on a 4WD Utility Truck > and never leaves pavement, is someone who spends $17k on a 2WD Wrangler > who DOES leave pavement. I'm surrounded by enough idiots as it is. |
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