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Troy 10-07-2006 01:11 AM

2wd wranglers
 
I swear if any of you guys/girls get a 2wd wrangler and get stuck I'm gonna
laugh at you before I offer the tow rope, oh and take a picture too. I just
checked out the 07's on the website. At least only the 4 door wranglers
will be 2wd from what I can tell.

Troy



Outatime 10-07-2006 06:31 PM

Re: 2wd wranglers
 
Troy wrote:

> I swear if any of you guys/girls get a 2wd wrangler and get stuck I'm gonna
> laugh at you before I offer the tow rope, oh and take a picture too. I just
> checked out the 07's on the website. At least only the 4 door wranglers
> will be 2wd from what I can tell.



Poseurs. I pulled an Explorer out of the mud this afternoon. The owner
began attaching the snatch strap to a flimsy 'cattle guard' on the
front, which was about 5/8" in diameter and wiggled badly when grabbed
and shaken. He didn't appreciate my comment about pulling the silly
thing off his sport-ute, then pulling him out of the mud.

Some are just into it for the looks. Four doors and 2wd seems to follow
this trend.

Outatime 10-07-2006 06:31 PM

Re: 2wd wranglers
 
Troy wrote:

> I swear if any of you guys/girls get a 2wd wrangler and get stuck I'm gonna
> laugh at you before I offer the tow rope, oh and take a picture too. I just
> checked out the 07's on the website. At least only the 4 door wranglers
> will be 2wd from what I can tell.



Poseurs. I pulled an Explorer out of the mud this afternoon. The owner
began attaching the snatch strap to a flimsy 'cattle guard' on the
front, which was about 5/8" in diameter and wiggled badly when grabbed
and shaken. He didn't appreciate my comment about pulling the silly
thing off his sport-ute, then pulling him out of the mud.

Some are just into it for the looks. Four doors and 2wd seems to follow
this trend.

Outatime 10-07-2006 06:31 PM

Re: 2wd wranglers
 
Troy wrote:

> I swear if any of you guys/girls get a 2wd wrangler and get stuck I'm gonna
> laugh at you before I offer the tow rope, oh and take a picture too. I just
> checked out the 07's on the website. At least only the 4 door wranglers
> will be 2wd from what I can tell.



Poseurs. I pulled an Explorer out of the mud this afternoon. The owner
began attaching the snatch strap to a flimsy 'cattle guard' on the
front, which was about 5/8" in diameter and wiggled badly when grabbed
and shaken. He didn't appreciate my comment about pulling the silly
thing off his sport-ute, then pulling him out of the mud.

Some are just into it for the looks. Four doors and 2wd seems to follow
this trend.

Earle Horton 10-07-2006 07:32 PM

Re: 2wd wranglers
 
"Outatime" <WhoKnows@here.com> wrote in message
news:7u6dnfmM7ZiLtrXYnZ2dnUVZ_oGdnZ2d@softcom.net. ..
> Troy wrote:
>
> > I swear if any of you guys/girls get a 2wd wrangler and get stuck I'm
> > gonna laugh at you before I offer the tow rope, oh and take a picture
> > too. I just checked out the 07's on the website. At least only the 4
> > door wranglers will be 2wd from what I can tell.

>
>
> Poseurs. I pulled an Explorer out of the mud this afternoon. The owner
> began attaching the snatch strap to a flimsy 'cattle guard' on the
> front, which was about 5/8" in diameter and wiggled badly when grabbed
> and shaken. He didn't appreciate my comment about pulling the silly
> thing off his sport-ute, then pulling him out of the mud.
>
> Some are just into it for the looks. Four doors and 2wd seems to follow
> this trend.


Give 'em a break. Would you rather go to the mall or soccer practice in a
2wd Liberty, or a 2wd Wrangler? What about cruisin' the local community
college for members of the opposite ---? You could just lower it, and put
monster speakers in the back. Boom, boom, boom, top down with those free
wheelin' hub caps spinnin' away like there's no tomorrow. "Hey Daryl, play
'Closer' again!"

Earle



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Earle Horton 10-07-2006 07:32 PM

Re: 2wd wranglers
 
"Outatime" <WhoKnows@here.com> wrote in message
news:7u6dnfmM7ZiLtrXYnZ2dnUVZ_oGdnZ2d@softcom.net. ..
> Troy wrote:
>
> > I swear if any of you guys/girls get a 2wd wrangler and get stuck I'm
> > gonna laugh at you before I offer the tow rope, oh and take a picture
> > too. I just checked out the 07's on the website. At least only the 4
> > door wranglers will be 2wd from what I can tell.

>
>
> Poseurs. I pulled an Explorer out of the mud this afternoon. The owner
> began attaching the snatch strap to a flimsy 'cattle guard' on the
> front, which was about 5/8" in diameter and wiggled badly when grabbed
> and shaken. He didn't appreciate my comment about pulling the silly
> thing off his sport-ute, then pulling him out of the mud.
>
> Some are just into it for the looks. Four doors and 2wd seems to follow
> this trend.


Give 'em a break. Would you rather go to the mall or soccer practice in a
2wd Liberty, or a 2wd Wrangler? What about cruisin' the local community
college for members of the opposite ---? You could just lower it, and put
monster speakers in the back. Boom, boom, boom, top down with those free
wheelin' hub caps spinnin' away like there's no tomorrow. "Hey Daryl, play
'Closer' again!"

Earle



--
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Earle Horton 10-07-2006 07:32 PM

Re: 2wd wranglers
 
"Outatime" <WhoKnows@here.com> wrote in message
news:7u6dnfmM7ZiLtrXYnZ2dnUVZ_oGdnZ2d@softcom.net. ..
> Troy wrote:
>
> > I swear if any of you guys/girls get a 2wd wrangler and get stuck I'm
> > gonna laugh at you before I offer the tow rope, oh and take a picture
> > too. I just checked out the 07's on the website. At least only the 4
> > door wranglers will be 2wd from what I can tell.

>
>
> Poseurs. I pulled an Explorer out of the mud this afternoon. The owner
> began attaching the snatch strap to a flimsy 'cattle guard' on the
> front, which was about 5/8" in diameter and wiggled badly when grabbed
> and shaken. He didn't appreciate my comment about pulling the silly
> thing off his sport-ute, then pulling him out of the mud.
>
> Some are just into it for the looks. Four doors and 2wd seems to follow
> this trend.


Give 'em a break. Would you rather go to the mall or soccer practice in a
2wd Liberty, or a 2wd Wrangler? What about cruisin' the local community
college for members of the opposite ---? You could just lower it, and put
monster speakers in the back. Boom, boom, boom, top down with those free
wheelin' hub caps spinnin' away like there's no tomorrow. "Hey Daryl, play
'Closer' again!"

Earle



--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com


Outatime 10-07-2006 10:39 PM

Re: 2wd wranglers
 
Earle Horton wrote:

> Give 'em a break. Would you rather go to the mall or soccer practice in a
> 2wd Liberty, or a 2wd Wrangler? What about cruisin' the local community
> college for members of the opposite ---? You could just lower it, and put
> monster speakers in the back. Boom, boom, boom, top down with those free
> wheelin' hub caps spinnin' away like there's no tomorrow. "Hey Daryl, play
> 'Closer' again!"



I'm with Troy on this one. Not only will I take pictures, laugh out
loud, but I'll also take $50 bucks cash before I even hook up the
D-shackle.

The only thing worse than someone who spends $50K on a 4WD Utility Truck
and never leaves pavement, is someone who spends $17k on a 2WD Wrangler
who DOES leave pavement. I'm surrounded by enough idiots as it is.

Outatime 10-07-2006 10:39 PM

Re: 2wd wranglers
 
Earle Horton wrote:

> Give 'em a break. Would you rather go to the mall or soccer practice in a
> 2wd Liberty, or a 2wd Wrangler? What about cruisin' the local community
> college for members of the opposite ---? You could just lower it, and put
> monster speakers in the back. Boom, boom, boom, top down with those free
> wheelin' hub caps spinnin' away like there's no tomorrow. "Hey Daryl, play
> 'Closer' again!"



I'm with Troy on this one. Not only will I take pictures, laugh out
loud, but I'll also take $50 bucks cash before I even hook up the
D-shackle.

The only thing worse than someone who spends $50K on a 4WD Utility Truck
and never leaves pavement, is someone who spends $17k on a 2WD Wrangler
who DOES leave pavement. I'm surrounded by enough idiots as it is.

Outatime 10-07-2006 10:39 PM

Re: 2wd wranglers
 
Earle Horton wrote:

> Give 'em a break. Would you rather go to the mall or soccer practice in a
> 2wd Liberty, or a 2wd Wrangler? What about cruisin' the local community
> college for members of the opposite ---? You could just lower it, and put
> monster speakers in the back. Boom, boom, boom, top down with those free
> wheelin' hub caps spinnin' away like there's no tomorrow. "Hey Daryl, play
> 'Closer' again!"



I'm with Troy on this one. Not only will I take pictures, laugh out
loud, but I'll also take $50 bucks cash before I even hook up the
D-shackle.

The only thing worse than someone who spends $50K on a 4WD Utility Truck
and never leaves pavement, is someone who spends $17k on a 2WD Wrangler
who DOES leave pavement. I'm surrounded by enough idiots as it is.

Brett Ryan 10-08-2006 09:51 AM

Re: 2wd wranglers
 
Troy,
I think that people who would buy such a thing would have no clue in
how to drive off road. Heck, I've known a lot of jeep owners that have
no clue about how to drive on a paved road. This is a move by DC's
marketing group. It will sell, and sell in good numbers to those who
like the Jeep "look" but don't want anything else from a Jeep.

Brett

Troy wrote:
> I swear if any of you guys/girls get a 2wd wrangler and get stuck I'm gonna
> laugh at you before I offer the tow rope, oh and take a picture too. I just
> checked out the 07's on the website. At least only the 4 door wranglers
> will be 2wd from what I can tell.
>
> Troy
>
>


Brett Ryan 10-08-2006 09:51 AM

Re: 2wd wranglers
 
Troy,
I think that people who would buy such a thing would have no clue in
how to drive off road. Heck, I've known a lot of jeep owners that have
no clue about how to drive on a paved road. This is a move by DC's
marketing group. It will sell, and sell in good numbers to those who
like the Jeep "look" but don't want anything else from a Jeep.

Brett

Troy wrote:
> I swear if any of you guys/girls get a 2wd wrangler and get stuck I'm gonna
> laugh at you before I offer the tow rope, oh and take a picture too. I just
> checked out the 07's on the website. At least only the 4 door wranglers
> will be 2wd from what I can tell.
>
> Troy
>
>


Brett Ryan 10-08-2006 09:51 AM

Re: 2wd wranglers
 
Troy,
I think that people who would buy such a thing would have no clue in
how to drive off road. Heck, I've known a lot of jeep owners that have
no clue about how to drive on a paved road. This is a move by DC's
marketing group. It will sell, and sell in good numbers to those who
like the Jeep "look" but don't want anything else from a Jeep.

Brett

Troy wrote:
> I swear if any of you guys/girls get a 2wd wrangler and get stuck I'm gonna
> laugh at you before I offer the tow rope, oh and take a picture too. I just
> checked out the 07's on the website. At least only the 4 door wranglers
> will be 2wd from what I can tell.
>
> Troy
>
>


Scott in Baltimore 10-08-2006 11:59 AM

Re: 2wd wranglers
 
Brett Ryan wrote:
> Troy,
> I think that people who would buy such a thing would have no clue in
> how to drive off road. Heck, I've known a lot of jeep owners that have
> no clue about how to drive on a paved road. This is a move by DC's
> marketing group. It will sell, and sell in good numbers to those who
> like the Jeep "look" but don't want anything else from a Jeep.
>
> Brett



Do the 2WD's come with real soft springs, extra insulation and AC standard?
How about a few inches lower to the ground so the opposite --- can get in easier?

(My mom has a hell of a time getting in and out of a relative stocker!)



> Troy wrote:
>> I swear if any of you guys/girls get a 2wd wrangler and get stuck I'm
>> gonna laugh at you before I offer the tow rope, oh and take a picture
>> too. I just checked out the 07's on the website. At least only the 4
>> door wranglers will be 2wd from what I can tell.
>>
>> Troy
>>



'97 SE Wrangler

Scott in Baltimore 10-08-2006 11:59 AM

Re: 2wd wranglers
 
Brett Ryan wrote:
> Troy,
> I think that people who would buy such a thing would have no clue in
> how to drive off road. Heck, I've known a lot of jeep owners that have
> no clue about how to drive on a paved road. This is a move by DC's
> marketing group. It will sell, and sell in good numbers to those who
> like the Jeep "look" but don't want anything else from a Jeep.
>
> Brett



Do the 2WD's come with real soft springs, extra insulation and AC standard?
How about a few inches lower to the ground so the opposite --- can get in easier?

(My mom has a hell of a time getting in and out of a relative stocker!)



> Troy wrote:
>> I swear if any of you guys/girls get a 2wd wrangler and get stuck I'm
>> gonna laugh at you before I offer the tow rope, oh and take a picture
>> too. I just checked out the 07's on the website. At least only the 4
>> door wranglers will be 2wd from what I can tell.
>>
>> Troy
>>



'97 SE Wrangler

Scott in Baltimore 10-08-2006 11:59 AM

Re: 2wd wranglers
 
Brett Ryan wrote:
> Troy,
> I think that people who would buy such a thing would have no clue in
> how to drive off road. Heck, I've known a lot of jeep owners that have
> no clue about how to drive on a paved road. This is a move by DC's
> marketing group. It will sell, and sell in good numbers to those who
> like the Jeep "look" but don't want anything else from a Jeep.
>
> Brett



Do the 2WD's come with real soft springs, extra insulation and AC standard?
How about a few inches lower to the ground so the opposite --- can get in easier?

(My mom has a hell of a time getting in and out of a relative stocker!)



> Troy wrote:
>> I swear if any of you guys/girls get a 2wd wrangler and get stuck I'm
>> gonna laugh at you before I offer the tow rope, oh and take a picture
>> too. I just checked out the 07's on the website. At least only the 4
>> door wranglers will be 2wd from what I can tell.
>>
>> Troy
>>



'97 SE Wrangler

Jeffrey DeWitt 10-08-2006 12:20 PM

Re: 2wd wranglers
 
Took my 75 year old mom out to lunch yesterday and she saw a Compass for
the first time.

Her reaction was exactly what DC wanted, she thought it was cute and it
got her thinking about wanting one.

She has no problem with my Cherokee, and one of her favorite things
about it is the grab handle above the passenger side door!

Mom is also the one who inadvertently pointed out why I never warmed to
the Liberty, first time she saw one she asked what it was, when I told
her she said it was ... CUTE.

Jeff DeWitt

Scott in Baltimore wrote:
> Brett Ryan wrote:
>
>> Troy,
>> I think that people who would buy such a thing would have no clue
>> in how to drive off road. Heck, I've known a lot of jeep owners that
>> have no clue about how to drive on a paved road. This is a move by
>> DC's marketing group. It will sell, and sell in good numbers to those
>> who like the Jeep "look" but don't want anything else from a Jeep.
>>
>> Brett

>
>
>
> Do the 2WD's come with real soft springs, extra insulation and AC standard?
> How about a few inches lower to the ground so the opposite --- can get
> in easier?
>
> (My mom has a hell of a time getting in and out of a relative stocker!)
>
>
>
>> Troy wrote:
>>
>>> I swear if any of you guys/girls get a 2wd wrangler and get stuck I'm
>>> gonna laugh at you before I offer the tow rope, oh and take a picture
>>> too. I just checked out the 07's on the website. At least only the
>>> 4 door wranglers will be 2wd from what I can tell.
>>>
>>> Troy
>>>

>
>
> '97 SE Wrangler


Jeffrey DeWitt 10-08-2006 12:20 PM

Re: 2wd wranglers
 
Took my 75 year old mom out to lunch yesterday and she saw a Compass for
the first time.

Her reaction was exactly what DC wanted, she thought it was cute and it
got her thinking about wanting one.

She has no problem with my Cherokee, and one of her favorite things
about it is the grab handle above the passenger side door!

Mom is also the one who inadvertently pointed out why I never warmed to
the Liberty, first time she saw one she asked what it was, when I told
her she said it was ... CUTE.

Jeff DeWitt

Scott in Baltimore wrote:
> Brett Ryan wrote:
>
>> Troy,
>> I think that people who would buy such a thing would have no clue
>> in how to drive off road. Heck, I've known a lot of jeep owners that
>> have no clue about how to drive on a paved road. This is a move by
>> DC's marketing group. It will sell, and sell in good numbers to those
>> who like the Jeep "look" but don't want anything else from a Jeep.
>>
>> Brett

>
>
>
> Do the 2WD's come with real soft springs, extra insulation and AC standard?
> How about a few inches lower to the ground so the opposite --- can get
> in easier?
>
> (My mom has a hell of a time getting in and out of a relative stocker!)
>
>
>
>> Troy wrote:
>>
>>> I swear if any of you guys/girls get a 2wd wrangler and get stuck I'm
>>> gonna laugh at you before I offer the tow rope, oh and take a picture
>>> too. I just checked out the 07's on the website. At least only the
>>> 4 door wranglers will be 2wd from what I can tell.
>>>
>>> Troy
>>>

>
>
> '97 SE Wrangler


Jeffrey DeWitt 10-08-2006 12:20 PM

Re: 2wd wranglers
 
Took my 75 year old mom out to lunch yesterday and she saw a Compass for
the first time.

Her reaction was exactly what DC wanted, she thought it was cute and it
got her thinking about wanting one.

She has no problem with my Cherokee, and one of her favorite things
about it is the grab handle above the passenger side door!

Mom is also the one who inadvertently pointed out why I never warmed to
the Liberty, first time she saw one she asked what it was, when I told
her she said it was ... CUTE.

Jeff DeWitt

Scott in Baltimore wrote:
> Brett Ryan wrote:
>
>> Troy,
>> I think that people who would buy such a thing would have no clue
>> in how to drive off road. Heck, I've known a lot of jeep owners that
>> have no clue about how to drive on a paved road. This is a move by
>> DC's marketing group. It will sell, and sell in good numbers to those
>> who like the Jeep "look" but don't want anything else from a Jeep.
>>
>> Brett

>
>
>
> Do the 2WD's come with real soft springs, extra insulation and AC standard?
> How about a few inches lower to the ground so the opposite --- can get
> in easier?
>
> (My mom has a hell of a time getting in and out of a relative stocker!)
>
>
>
>> Troy wrote:
>>
>>> I swear if any of you guys/girls get a 2wd wrangler and get stuck I'm
>>> gonna laugh at you before I offer the tow rope, oh and take a picture
>>> too. I just checked out the 07's on the website. At least only the
>>> 4 door wranglers will be 2wd from what I can tell.
>>>
>>> Troy
>>>

>
>
> '97 SE Wrangler


Earle Horton 10-08-2006 01:39 PM

Re: 2wd wranglers
 
My wife said the Liberty was "dorky". I think they're both right. I live
in an area of extreme snowfall, and one of the year 'round residents has
one. It can't be all bad.

Earle

"Jeffrey DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:dz9Wg.7953$UE6.5386@tornado.southeast.rr.com. ..
> Took my 75 year old mom out to lunch yesterday and she saw a Compass for
> the first time.
>
> Her reaction was exactly what DC wanted, she thought it was cute and it
> got her thinking about wanting one.
>
> She has no problem with my Cherokee, and one of her favorite things
> about it is the grab handle above the passenger side door!
>
> Mom is also the one who inadvertently pointed out why I never warmed to
> the Liberty, first time she saw one she asked what it was, when I told
> her she said it was ... CUTE.
>
> Jeff DeWitt
>
> Scott in Baltimore wrote:
> > Brett Ryan wrote:
> >
> >> Troy,
> >> I think that people who would buy such a thing would have no clue
> >> in how to drive off road. Heck, I've known a lot of jeep owners that
> >> have no clue about how to drive on a paved road. This is a move by
> >> DC's marketing group. It will sell, and sell in good numbers to those
> >> who like the Jeep "look" but don't want anything else from a Jeep.
> >>
> >> Brett

> >
> >
> >
> > Do the 2WD's come with real soft springs, extra insulation and AC

standard?
> > How about a few inches lower to the ground so the opposite --- can get
> > in easier?
> >
> > (My mom has a hell of a time getting in and out of a relative stocker!)
> >
> >
> >
> >> Troy wrote:
> >>
> >>> I swear if any of you guys/girls get a 2wd wrangler and get stuck I'm
> >>> gonna laugh at you before I offer the tow rope, oh and take a picture
> >>> too. I just checked out the 07's on the website. At least only the
> >>> 4 door wranglers will be 2wd from what I can tell.
> >>>
> >>> Troy
> >>>

> >
> >
> > '97 SE Wrangler




Earle Horton 10-08-2006 01:39 PM

Re: 2wd wranglers
 
My wife said the Liberty was "dorky". I think they're both right. I live
in an area of extreme snowfall, and one of the year 'round residents has
one. It can't be all bad.

Earle

"Jeffrey DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:dz9Wg.7953$UE6.5386@tornado.southeast.rr.com. ..
> Took my 75 year old mom out to lunch yesterday and she saw a Compass for
> the first time.
>
> Her reaction was exactly what DC wanted, she thought it was cute and it
> got her thinking about wanting one.
>
> She has no problem with my Cherokee, and one of her favorite things
> about it is the grab handle above the passenger side door!
>
> Mom is also the one who inadvertently pointed out why I never warmed to
> the Liberty, first time she saw one she asked what it was, when I told
> her she said it was ... CUTE.
>
> Jeff DeWitt
>
> Scott in Baltimore wrote:
> > Brett Ryan wrote:
> >
> >> Troy,
> >> I think that people who would buy such a thing would have no clue
> >> in how to drive off road. Heck, I've known a lot of jeep owners that
> >> have no clue about how to drive on a paved road. This is a move by
> >> DC's marketing group. It will sell, and sell in good numbers to those
> >> who like the Jeep "look" but don't want anything else from a Jeep.
> >>
> >> Brett

> >
> >
> >
> > Do the 2WD's come with real soft springs, extra insulation and AC

standard?
> > How about a few inches lower to the ground so the opposite --- can get
> > in easier?
> >
> > (My mom has a hell of a time getting in and out of a relative stocker!)
> >
> >
> >
> >> Troy wrote:
> >>
> >>> I swear if any of you guys/girls get a 2wd wrangler and get stuck I'm
> >>> gonna laugh at you before I offer the tow rope, oh and take a picture
> >>> too. I just checked out the 07's on the website. At least only the
> >>> 4 door wranglers will be 2wd from what I can tell.
> >>>
> >>> Troy
> >>>

> >
> >
> > '97 SE Wrangler




Earle Horton 10-08-2006 01:39 PM

Re: 2wd wranglers
 
My wife said the Liberty was "dorky". I think they're both right. I live
in an area of extreme snowfall, and one of the year 'round residents has
one. It can't be all bad.

Earle

"Jeffrey DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:dz9Wg.7953$UE6.5386@tornado.southeast.rr.com. ..
> Took my 75 year old mom out to lunch yesterday and she saw a Compass for
> the first time.
>
> Her reaction was exactly what DC wanted, she thought it was cute and it
> got her thinking about wanting one.
>
> She has no problem with my Cherokee, and one of her favorite things
> about it is the grab handle above the passenger side door!
>
> Mom is also the one who inadvertently pointed out why I never warmed to
> the Liberty, first time she saw one she asked what it was, when I told
> her she said it was ... CUTE.
>
> Jeff DeWitt
>
> Scott in Baltimore wrote:
> > Brett Ryan wrote:
> >
> >> Troy,
> >> I think that people who would buy such a thing would have no clue
> >> in how to drive off road. Heck, I've known a lot of jeep owners that
> >> have no clue about how to drive on a paved road. This is a move by
> >> DC's marketing group. It will sell, and sell in good numbers to those
> >> who like the Jeep "look" but don't want anything else from a Jeep.
> >>
> >> Brett

> >
> >
> >
> > Do the 2WD's come with real soft springs, extra insulation and AC

standard?
> > How about a few inches lower to the ground so the opposite --- can get
> > in easier?
> >
> > (My mom has a hell of a time getting in and out of a relative stocker!)
> >
> >
> >
> >> Troy wrote:
> >>
> >>> I swear if any of you guys/girls get a 2wd wrangler and get stuck I'm
> >>> gonna laugh at you before I offer the tow rope, oh and take a picture
> >>> too. I just checked out the 07's on the website. At least only the
> >>> 4 door wranglers will be 2wd from what I can tell.
> >>>
> >>> Troy
> >>>

> >
> >
> > '97 SE Wrangler




billy ray 10-08-2006 02:58 PM

Re: 2wd wranglers
 
No, the new Unlimited is really easy to get in and out of because it has the
exact same ground clearance as the Grand Cherokee.

> How about a few inches lower to the ground so the opposite --- can get in
> easier?
>
> (My mom has a hell of a time getting in and out of a relative stocker!)
>
>
>




billy ray 10-08-2006 02:58 PM

Re: 2wd wranglers
 
No, the new Unlimited is really easy to get in and out of because it has the
exact same ground clearance as the Grand Cherokee.

> How about a few inches lower to the ground so the opposite --- can get in
> easier?
>
> (My mom has a hell of a time getting in and out of a relative stocker!)
>
>
>




billy ray 10-08-2006 02:58 PM

Re: 2wd wranglers
 
No, the new Unlimited is really easy to get in and out of because it has the
exact same ground clearance as the Grand Cherokee.

> How about a few inches lower to the ground so the opposite --- can get in
> easier?
>
> (My mom has a hell of a time getting in and out of a relative stocker!)
>
>
>




Lon 10-08-2006 04:01 PM

Re: 2wd wranglers
 
And, when driven by someone with minimal skills, will go pretty much
anywhere that a 4x4 will except for poor traction or really rough
trails. As 2wd pickup and truck drivers have known for decades.
It if gets too rough for an International with dualies, you are probably
gonna need a cat or tractor anyway.

Brett Ryan proclaimed:

> Troy,
> I think that people who would buy such a thing would have no clue in
> how to drive off road. Heck, I've known a lot of jeep owners that have
> no clue about how to drive on a paved road. This is a move by DC's
> marketing group. It will sell, and sell in good numbers to those who
> like the Jeep "look" but don't want anything else from a Jeep.
>
> Brett
>
> Troy wrote:
>
>> I swear if any of you guys/girls get a 2wd wrangler and get stuck I'm
>> gonna laugh at you before I offer the tow rope, oh and take a picture
>> too. I just checked out the 07's on the website. At least only the 4
>> door wranglers will be 2wd from what I can tell.
>>
>> Troy
>>


Lon 10-08-2006 04:01 PM

Re: 2wd wranglers
 
And, when driven by someone with minimal skills, will go pretty much
anywhere that a 4x4 will except for poor traction or really rough
trails. As 2wd pickup and truck drivers have known for decades.
It if gets too rough for an International with dualies, you are probably
gonna need a cat or tractor anyway.

Brett Ryan proclaimed:

> Troy,
> I think that people who would buy such a thing would have no clue in
> how to drive off road. Heck, I've known a lot of jeep owners that have
> no clue about how to drive on a paved road. This is a move by DC's
> marketing group. It will sell, and sell in good numbers to those who
> like the Jeep "look" but don't want anything else from a Jeep.
>
> Brett
>
> Troy wrote:
>
>> I swear if any of you guys/girls get a 2wd wrangler and get stuck I'm
>> gonna laugh at you before I offer the tow rope, oh and take a picture
>> too. I just checked out the 07's on the website. At least only the 4
>> door wranglers will be 2wd from what I can tell.
>>
>> Troy
>>


Lon 10-08-2006 04:01 PM

Re: 2wd wranglers
 
And, when driven by someone with minimal skills, will go pretty much
anywhere that a 4x4 will except for poor traction or really rough
trails. As 2wd pickup and truck drivers have known for decades.
It if gets too rough for an International with dualies, you are probably
gonna need a cat or tractor anyway.

Brett Ryan proclaimed:

> Troy,
> I think that people who would buy such a thing would have no clue in
> how to drive off road. Heck, I've known a lot of jeep owners that have
> no clue about how to drive on a paved road. This is a move by DC's
> marketing group. It will sell, and sell in good numbers to those who
> like the Jeep "look" but don't want anything else from a Jeep.
>
> Brett
>
> Troy wrote:
>
>> I swear if any of you guys/girls get a 2wd wrangler and get stuck I'm
>> gonna laugh at you before I offer the tow rope, oh and take a picture
>> too. I just checked out the 07's on the website. At least only the 4
>> door wranglers will be 2wd from what I can tell.
>>
>> Troy
>>


Carl 10-09-2006 02:09 AM

Re: 2wd wranglers
 
I hardly think a big rig compares to a 2wd pickup/SUV. A full size big rig
has got dual rear axles, with a total of eight rear 40" tires, and generally
the ability to lock both rear axles. This is a far sight from a pickup on
28" tires with only one rear wheel spinning in the mud.

Carl


"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:F7WdnWBsncuVxLTYnZ2dnUVZ_rCdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> And, when driven by someone with minimal skills, will go pretty much
> anywhere that a 4x4 will except for poor traction or really rough trails.
> As 2wd pickup and truck drivers have known for decades.
> It if gets too rough for an International with dualies, you are probably
> gonna need a cat or tractor anyway.
>
> Brett Ryan proclaimed:
>
>> Troy,
>> I think that people who would buy such a thing would have no clue in
>> how to drive off road. Heck, I've known a lot of jeep owners that have
>> no clue about how to drive on a paved road. This is a move by DC's
>> marketing group. It will sell, and sell in good numbers to those who
>> like the Jeep "look" but don't want anything else from a Jeep.
>>
>> Brett
>>
>> Troy wrote:
>>
>>> I swear if any of you guys/girls get a 2wd wrangler and get stuck I'm
>>> gonna laugh at you before I offer the tow rope, oh and take a picture
>>> too. I just checked out the 07's on the website. At least only the 4
>>> door wranglers will be 2wd from what I can tell.
>>>
>>> Troy
>>>




Carl 10-09-2006 02:09 AM

Re: 2wd wranglers
 
I hardly think a big rig compares to a 2wd pickup/SUV. A full size big rig
has got dual rear axles, with a total of eight rear 40" tires, and generally
the ability to lock both rear axles. This is a far sight from a pickup on
28" tires with only one rear wheel spinning in the mud.

Carl


"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:F7WdnWBsncuVxLTYnZ2dnUVZ_rCdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> And, when driven by someone with minimal skills, will go pretty much
> anywhere that a 4x4 will except for poor traction or really rough trails.
> As 2wd pickup and truck drivers have known for decades.
> It if gets too rough for an International with dualies, you are probably
> gonna need a cat or tractor anyway.
>
> Brett Ryan proclaimed:
>
>> Troy,
>> I think that people who would buy such a thing would have no clue in
>> how to drive off road. Heck, I've known a lot of jeep owners that have
>> no clue about how to drive on a paved road. This is a move by DC's
>> marketing group. It will sell, and sell in good numbers to those who
>> like the Jeep "look" but don't want anything else from a Jeep.
>>
>> Brett
>>
>> Troy wrote:
>>
>>> I swear if any of you guys/girls get a 2wd wrangler and get stuck I'm
>>> gonna laugh at you before I offer the tow rope, oh and take a picture
>>> too. I just checked out the 07's on the website. At least only the 4
>>> door wranglers will be 2wd from what I can tell.
>>>
>>> Troy
>>>




Carl 10-09-2006 02:09 AM

Re: 2wd wranglers
 
I hardly think a big rig compares to a 2wd pickup/SUV. A full size big rig
has got dual rear axles, with a total of eight rear 40" tires, and generally
the ability to lock both rear axles. This is a far sight from a pickup on
28" tires with only one rear wheel spinning in the mud.

Carl


"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:F7WdnWBsncuVxLTYnZ2dnUVZ_rCdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> And, when driven by someone with minimal skills, will go pretty much
> anywhere that a 4x4 will except for poor traction or really rough trails.
> As 2wd pickup and truck drivers have known for decades.
> It if gets too rough for an International with dualies, you are probably
> gonna need a cat or tractor anyway.
>
> Brett Ryan proclaimed:
>
>> Troy,
>> I think that people who would buy such a thing would have no clue in
>> how to drive off road. Heck, I've known a lot of jeep owners that have
>> no clue about how to drive on a paved road. This is a move by DC's
>> marketing group. It will sell, and sell in good numbers to those who
>> like the Jeep "look" but don't want anything else from a Jeep.
>>
>> Brett
>>
>> Troy wrote:
>>
>>> I swear if any of you guys/girls get a 2wd wrangler and get stuck I'm
>>> gonna laugh at you before I offer the tow rope, oh and take a picture
>>> too. I just checked out the 07's on the website. At least only the 4
>>> door wranglers will be 2wd from what I can tell.
>>>
>>> Troy
>>>




Jeffrey DeWitt 10-09-2006 10:16 PM

Re: 2wd wranglers
 
I think mud would count as poor traction <G>

I've driven my little old Studebaker pickup through stuff that would get
your average soccer mom in a Liberty hopelessly stuck.


Jeff DeWitt

Carl wrote:
> I hardly think a big rig compares to a 2wd pickup/SUV. A full size big rig
> has got dual rear axles, with a total of eight rear 40" tires, and generally
> the ability to lock both rear axles. This is a far sight from a pickup on
> 28" tires with only one rear wheel spinning in the mud.
>
> Carl
>
>
> "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:F7WdnWBsncuVxLTYnZ2dnUVZ_rCdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>
>>And, when driven by someone with minimal skills, will go pretty much
>>anywhere that a 4x4 will except for poor traction or really rough trails.
>>As 2wd pickup and truck drivers have known for decades.
>>It if gets too rough for an International with dualies, you are probably
>>gonna need a cat or tractor anyway.
>>
>>Brett Ryan proclaimed:
>>
>>
>>>Troy,
>>> I think that people who would buy such a thing would have no clue in
>>>how to drive off road. Heck, I've known a lot of jeep owners that have
>>>no clue about how to drive on a paved road. This is a move by DC's
>>>marketing group. It will sell, and sell in good numbers to those who
>>>like the Jeep "look" but don't want anything else from a Jeep.
>>>
>>>Brett
>>>
>>>Troy wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I swear if any of you guys/girls get a 2wd wrangler and get stuck I'm
>>>>gonna laugh at you before I offer the tow rope, oh and take a picture
>>>>too. I just checked out the 07's on the website. At least only the 4
>>>>door wranglers will be 2wd from what I can tell.
>>>>
>>>>Troy
>>>>

>
>
>


Jeffrey DeWitt 10-09-2006 10:16 PM

Re: 2wd wranglers
 
I think mud would count as poor traction <G>

I've driven my little old Studebaker pickup through stuff that would get
your average soccer mom in a Liberty hopelessly stuck.


Jeff DeWitt

Carl wrote:
> I hardly think a big rig compares to a 2wd pickup/SUV. A full size big rig
> has got dual rear axles, with a total of eight rear 40" tires, and generally
> the ability to lock both rear axles. This is a far sight from a pickup on
> 28" tires with only one rear wheel spinning in the mud.
>
> Carl
>
>
> "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:F7WdnWBsncuVxLTYnZ2dnUVZ_rCdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>
>>And, when driven by someone with minimal skills, will go pretty much
>>anywhere that a 4x4 will except for poor traction or really rough trails.
>>As 2wd pickup and truck drivers have known for decades.
>>It if gets too rough for an International with dualies, you are probably
>>gonna need a cat or tractor anyway.
>>
>>Brett Ryan proclaimed:
>>
>>
>>>Troy,
>>> I think that people who would buy such a thing would have no clue in
>>>how to drive off road. Heck, I've known a lot of jeep owners that have
>>>no clue about how to drive on a paved road. This is a move by DC's
>>>marketing group. It will sell, and sell in good numbers to those who
>>>like the Jeep "look" but don't want anything else from a Jeep.
>>>
>>>Brett
>>>
>>>Troy wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I swear if any of you guys/girls get a 2wd wrangler and get stuck I'm
>>>>gonna laugh at you before I offer the tow rope, oh and take a picture
>>>>too. I just checked out the 07's on the website. At least only the 4
>>>>door wranglers will be 2wd from what I can tell.
>>>>
>>>>Troy
>>>>

>
>
>


Jeffrey DeWitt 10-09-2006 10:16 PM

Re: 2wd wranglers
 
I think mud would count as poor traction <G>

I've driven my little old Studebaker pickup through stuff that would get
your average soccer mom in a Liberty hopelessly stuck.


Jeff DeWitt

Carl wrote:
> I hardly think a big rig compares to a 2wd pickup/SUV. A full size big rig
> has got dual rear axles, with a total of eight rear 40" tires, and generally
> the ability to lock both rear axles. This is a far sight from a pickup on
> 28" tires with only one rear wheel spinning in the mud.
>
> Carl
>
>
> "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:F7WdnWBsncuVxLTYnZ2dnUVZ_rCdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>
>>And, when driven by someone with minimal skills, will go pretty much
>>anywhere that a 4x4 will except for poor traction or really rough trails.
>>As 2wd pickup and truck drivers have known for decades.
>>It if gets too rough for an International with dualies, you are probably
>>gonna need a cat or tractor anyway.
>>
>>Brett Ryan proclaimed:
>>
>>
>>>Troy,
>>> I think that people who would buy such a thing would have no clue in
>>>how to drive off road. Heck, I've known a lot of jeep owners that have
>>>no clue about how to drive on a paved road. This is a move by DC's
>>>marketing group. It will sell, and sell in good numbers to those who
>>>like the Jeep "look" but don't want anything else from a Jeep.
>>>
>>>Brett
>>>
>>>Troy wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I swear if any of you guys/girls get a 2wd wrangler and get stuck I'm
>>>>gonna laugh at you before I offer the tow rope, oh and take a picture
>>>>too. I just checked out the 07's on the website. At least only the 4
>>>>door wranglers will be 2wd from what I can tell.
>>>>
>>>>Troy
>>>>

>
>
>


Brett Ryan 10-10-2006 12:50 PM

Re: 2wd wranglers
 
Scott in Baltimore wrote:
> Brett Ryan wrote:
>> Troy,
>> I think that people who would buy such a thing would have no clue
>> in how to drive off road. Heck, I've known a lot of jeep owners that
>> have no clue about how to drive on a paved road. This is a move by
>> DC's marketing group. It will sell, and sell in good numbers to those
>> who like the Jeep "look" but don't want anything else from a Jeep.
>>
>> Brett

>
>
> Do the 2WD's come with real soft springs, extra insulation and AC standard?
> How about a few inches lower to the ground so the opposite --- can get
> in easier?
>
> (My mom has a hell of a time getting in and out of a relative stocker!)


That I do not know about, or could care less about... I think that the
2WD would be a "Mall Crawler" or a "Beach Bummer" for those who want
image only. I will be interesting to see who the actual customers will
be. Kinda like the buyers of those H2's. Big, fancy, loaded with
gadgets and leather seats, all which will break or get destroyed in an
off-road environment.

>
>
>
>> Troy wrote:
>>> I swear if any of you guys/girls get a 2wd wrangler and get stuck I'm
>>> gonna laugh at you before I offer the tow rope, oh and take a picture
>>> too. I just checked out the 07's on the website. At least only the
>>> 4 door wranglers will be 2wd from what I can tell.
>>>
>>> Troy
>>>

>
>
> '97 SE Wrangler


Brett Ryan 10-10-2006 12:50 PM

Re: 2wd wranglers
 
Scott in Baltimore wrote:
> Brett Ryan wrote:
>> Troy,
>> I think that people who would buy such a thing would have no clue
>> in how to drive off road. Heck, I've known a lot of jeep owners that
>> have no clue about how to drive on a paved road. This is a move by
>> DC's marketing group. It will sell, and sell in good numbers to those
>> who like the Jeep "look" but don't want anything else from a Jeep.
>>
>> Brett

>
>
> Do the 2WD's come with real soft springs, extra insulation and AC standard?
> How about a few inches lower to the ground so the opposite --- can get
> in easier?
>
> (My mom has a hell of a time getting in and out of a relative stocker!)


That I do not know about, or could care less about... I think that the
2WD would be a "Mall Crawler" or a "Beach Bummer" for those who want
image only. I will be interesting to see who the actual customers will
be. Kinda like the buyers of those H2's. Big, fancy, loaded with
gadgets and leather seats, all which will break or get destroyed in an
off-road environment.

>
>
>
>> Troy wrote:
>>> I swear if any of you guys/girls get a 2wd wrangler and get stuck I'm
>>> gonna laugh at you before I offer the tow rope, oh and take a picture
>>> too. I just checked out the 07's on the website. At least only the
>>> 4 door wranglers will be 2wd from what I can tell.
>>>
>>> Troy
>>>

>
>
> '97 SE Wrangler


Brett Ryan 10-10-2006 12:50 PM

Re: 2wd wranglers
 
Scott in Baltimore wrote:
> Brett Ryan wrote:
>> Troy,
>> I think that people who would buy such a thing would have no clue
>> in how to drive off road. Heck, I've known a lot of jeep owners that
>> have no clue about how to drive on a paved road. This is a move by
>> DC's marketing group. It will sell, and sell in good numbers to those
>> who like the Jeep "look" but don't want anything else from a Jeep.
>>
>> Brett

>
>
> Do the 2WD's come with real soft springs, extra insulation and AC standard?
> How about a few inches lower to the ground so the opposite --- can get
> in easier?
>
> (My mom has a hell of a time getting in and out of a relative stocker!)


That I do not know about, or could care less about... I think that the
2WD would be a "Mall Crawler" or a "Beach Bummer" for those who want
image only. I will be interesting to see who the actual customers will
be. Kinda like the buyers of those H2's. Big, fancy, loaded with
gadgets and leather seats, all which will break or get destroyed in an
off-road environment.

>
>
>
>> Troy wrote:
>>> I swear if any of you guys/girls get a 2wd wrangler and get stuck I'm
>>> gonna laugh at you before I offer the tow rope, oh and take a picture
>>> too. I just checked out the 07's on the website. At least only the
>>> 4 door wranglers will be 2wd from what I can tell.
>>>
>>> Troy
>>>

>
>
> '97 SE Wrangler


Coasty 10-11-2006 06:23 AM

Re: 2wd wranglers
 
---- on a bore hog comes to mind.

Coasty

"Outatime" <WhoKnows@here.com> wrote in message
news:KsKdnc1ub7Co-LXYnZ2dnUVZ_tadnZ2d@softcom.net...
> Earle Horton wrote:
>
>> Give 'em a break. Would you rather go to the mall or soccer practice in
>> a
>> 2wd Liberty, or a 2wd Wrangler? What about cruisin' the local community
>> college for members of the opposite ---? You could just lower it, and
>> put
>> monster speakers in the back. Boom, boom, boom, top down with those free
>> wheelin' hub caps spinnin' away like there's no tomorrow. "Hey Daryl,
>> play
>> 'Closer' again!"

>
>
> I'm with Troy on this one. Not only will I take pictures, laugh out loud,
> but I'll also take $50 bucks cash before I even hook up the D-shackle.
>
> The only thing worse than someone who spends $50K on a 4WD Utility Truck
> and never leaves pavement, is someone who spends $17k on a 2WD Wrangler
> who DOES leave pavement. I'm surrounded by enough idiots as it is.




Coasty 10-11-2006 06:23 AM

Re: 2wd wranglers
 
---- on a bore hog comes to mind.

Coasty

"Outatime" <WhoKnows@here.com> wrote in message
news:KsKdnc1ub7Co-LXYnZ2dnUVZ_tadnZ2d@softcom.net...
> Earle Horton wrote:
>
>> Give 'em a break. Would you rather go to the mall or soccer practice in
>> a
>> 2wd Liberty, or a 2wd Wrangler? What about cruisin' the local community
>> college for members of the opposite ---? You could just lower it, and
>> put
>> monster speakers in the back. Boom, boom, boom, top down with those free
>> wheelin' hub caps spinnin' away like there's no tomorrow. "Hey Daryl,
>> play
>> 'Closer' again!"

>
>
> I'm with Troy on this one. Not only will I take pictures, laugh out loud,
> but I'll also take $50 bucks cash before I even hook up the D-shackle.
>
> The only thing worse than someone who spends $50K on a 4WD Utility Truck
> and never leaves pavement, is someone who spends $17k on a 2WD Wrangler
> who DOES leave pavement. I'm surrounded by enough idiots as it is.




Coasty 10-11-2006 06:23 AM

Re: 2wd wranglers
 
---- on a bore hog comes to mind.

Coasty

"Outatime" <WhoKnows@here.com> wrote in message
news:KsKdnc1ub7Co-LXYnZ2dnUVZ_tadnZ2d@softcom.net...
> Earle Horton wrote:
>
>> Give 'em a break. Would you rather go to the mall or soccer practice in
>> a
>> 2wd Liberty, or a 2wd Wrangler? What about cruisin' the local community
>> college for members of the opposite ---? You could just lower it, and
>> put
>> monster speakers in the back. Boom, boom, boom, top down with those free
>> wheelin' hub caps spinnin' away like there's no tomorrow. "Hey Daryl,
>> play
>> 'Closer' again!"

>
>
> I'm with Troy on this one. Not only will I take pictures, laugh out loud,
> but I'll also take $50 bucks cash before I even hook up the D-shackle.
>
> The only thing worse than someone who spends $50K on a 4WD Utility Truck
> and never leaves pavement, is someone who spends $17k on a 2WD Wrangler
> who DOES leave pavement. I'm surrounded by enough idiots as it is.





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