My wife said the Liberty was "dorky". I think they're both right. I live
in an area of extreme snowfall, and one of the year 'round residents has
one. It can't be all bad.

Earle

"Jeffrey DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:dz9Wg.7953$UE6.5386@tornado.southeast.rr.com. ..
> Took my 75 year old mom out to lunch yesterday and she saw a Compass for
> the first time.
>
> Her reaction was exactly what DC wanted, she thought it was cute and it
> got her thinking about wanting one.
>
> She has no problem with my Cherokee, and one of her favorite things
> about it is the grab handle above the passenger side door!
>
> Mom is also the one who inadvertently pointed out why I never warmed to
> the Liberty, first time she saw one she asked what it was, when I told
> her she said it was ... CUTE.
>
> Jeff DeWitt
>
> Scott in Baltimore wrote:
> > Brett Ryan wrote:
> >
> >> Troy,
> >> I think that people who would buy such a thing would have no clue
> >> in how to drive off road. Heck, I've known a lot of jeep owners that
> >> have no clue about how to drive on a paved road. This is a move by
> >> DC's marketing group. It will sell, and sell in good numbers to those
> >> who like the Jeep "look" but don't want anything else from a Jeep.
> >>
> >> Brett
> >
> >
> >
> > Do the 2WD's come with real soft springs, extra insulation and AC
standard?
> > How about a few inches lower to the ground so the opposite --- can get
> > in easier?
> >
> > (My mom has a hell of a time getting in and out of a relative stocker!)
> >
> >
> >
> >> Troy wrote:
> >>
> >>> I swear if any of you guys/girls get a 2wd wrangler and get stuck I'm
> >>> gonna laugh at you before I offer the tow rope, oh and take a picture
> >>> too. I just checked out the 07's on the website. At least only the
> >>> 4 door wranglers will be 2wd from what I can tell.
> >>>
> >>> Troy
> >>>
> >
> >
> > '97 SE Wrangler

 

My wife said the Liberty was "dorky". I think they're both right. I live
in an area of extreme snowfall, and one of the year 'round residents has
one. It can't be all bad.

Earle

"Jeffrey DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:dz9Wg.7953$UE6.5386@tornado.southeast.rr.com. ..
> Took my 75 year old mom out to lunch yesterday and she saw a Compass for
> the first time.
>
> Her reaction was exactly what DC wanted, she thought it was cute and it
> got her thinking about wanting one.
>
> She has no problem with my Cherokee, and one of her favorite things
> about it is the grab handle above the passenger side door!
>
> Mom is also the one who inadvertently pointed out why I never warmed to
> the Liberty, first time she saw one she asked what it was, when I told
> her she said it was ... CUTE.
>
> Jeff DeWitt
>
> Scott in Baltimore wrote:
> > Brett Ryan wrote:
> >
> >> Troy,
> >> I think that people who would buy such a thing would have no clue
> >> in how to drive off road. Heck, I've known a lot of jeep owners that
> >> have no clue about how to drive on a paved road. This is a move by
> >> DC's marketing group. It will sell, and sell in good numbers to those
> >> who like the Jeep "look" but don't want anything else from a Jeep.
> >>
> >> Brett
> >
> >
> >
> > Do the 2WD's come with real soft springs, extra insulation and AC
standard?
> > How about a few inches lower to the ground so the opposite --- can get
> > in easier?
> >
> > (My mom has a hell of a time getting in and out of a relative stocker!)
> >
> >
> >
> >> Troy wrote:
> >>
> >>> I swear if any of you guys/girls get a 2wd wrangler and get stuck I'm
> >>> gonna laugh at you before I offer the tow rope, oh and take a picture
> >>> too. I just checked out the 07's on the website. At least only the
> >>> 4 door wranglers will be 2wd from what I can tell.
> >>>
> >>> Troy
> >>>
> >
> >
> > '97 SE Wrangler

 

No, the new Unlimited is really easy to get in and out of because it has the
exact same ground clearance as the Grand Cherokee.

> How about a few inches lower to the ground so the opposite --- can get in
> easier?
>
> (My mom has a hell of a time getting in and out of a relative stocker!)
>
>
>

 

No, the new Unlimited is really easy to get in and out of because it has the
exact same ground clearance as the Grand Cherokee.

> How about a few inches lower to the ground so the opposite --- can get in
> easier?
>
> (My mom has a hell of a time getting in and out of a relative stocker!)
>
>
>

 

No, the new Unlimited is really easy to get in and out of because it has the
exact same ground clearance as the Grand Cherokee.

> How about a few inches lower to the ground so the opposite --- can get in
> easier?
>
> (My mom has a hell of a time getting in and out of a relative stocker!)
>
>
>

 

And, when driven by someone with minimal skills, will go pretty much
anywhere that a 4x4 will except for poor traction or really rough
trails. As 2wd pickup and truck drivers have known for decades.
It if gets too rough for an International with dualies, you are probably
gonna need a cat or tractor anyway.

Brett Ryan proclaimed:

> Troy,
> I think that people who would buy such a thing would have no clue in
> how to drive off road. Heck, I've known a lot of jeep owners that have
> no clue about how to drive on a paved road. This is a move by DC's
> marketing group. It will sell, and sell in good numbers to those who
> like the Jeep "look" but don't want anything else from a Jeep.
>
> Brett
>
> Troy wrote:
>
>> I swear if any of you guys/girls get a 2wd wrangler and get stuck I'm
>> gonna laugh at you before I offer the tow rope, oh and take a picture
>> too. I just checked out the 07's on the website. At least only the 4
>> door wranglers will be 2wd from what I can tell.
>>
>> Troy
>>

 

And, when driven by someone with minimal skills, will go pretty much
anywhere that a 4x4 will except for poor traction or really rough
trails. As 2wd pickup and truck drivers have known for decades.
It if gets too rough for an International with dualies, you are probably
gonna need a cat or tractor anyway.

Brett Ryan proclaimed:

> Troy,
> I think that people who would buy such a thing would have no clue in
> how to drive off road. Heck, I've known a lot of jeep owners that have
> no clue about how to drive on a paved road. This is a move by DC's
> marketing group. It will sell, and sell in good numbers to those who
> like the Jeep "look" but don't want anything else from a Jeep.
>
> Brett
>
> Troy wrote:
>
>> I swear if any of you guys/girls get a 2wd wrangler and get stuck I'm
>> gonna laugh at you before I offer the tow rope, oh and take a picture
>> too. I just checked out the 07's on the website. At least only the 4
>> door wranglers will be 2wd from what I can tell.
>>
>> Troy
>>

 

And, when driven by someone with minimal skills, will go pretty much
anywhere that a 4x4 will except for poor traction or really rough
trails. As 2wd pickup and truck drivers have known for decades.
It if gets too rough for an International with dualies, you are probably
gonna need a cat or tractor anyway.

Brett Ryan proclaimed:

> Troy,
> I think that people who would buy such a thing would have no clue in
> how to drive off road. Heck, I've known a lot of jeep owners that have
> no clue about how to drive on a paved road. This is a move by DC's
> marketing group. It will sell, and sell in good numbers to those who
> like the Jeep "look" but don't want anything else from a Jeep.
>
> Brett
>
> Troy wrote:
>
>> I swear if any of you guys/girls get a 2wd wrangler and get stuck I'm
>> gonna laugh at you before I offer the tow rope, oh and take a picture
>> too. I just checked out the 07's on the website. At least only the 4
>> door wranglers will be 2wd from what I can tell.
>>
>> Troy
>>

 

I hardly think a big rig compares to a 2wd pickup/SUV. A full size big rig
has got dual rear axles, with a total of eight rear 40" tires, and generally
the ability to lock both rear axles. This is a far sight from a pickup on
28" tires with only one rear wheel spinning in the mud.

Carl


"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:F7WdnWBsncuVxLTYnZ2dnUVZ_rCdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> And, when driven by someone with minimal skills, will go pretty much
> anywhere that a 4x4 will except for poor traction or really rough trails.
> As 2wd pickup and truck drivers have known for decades.
> It if gets too rough for an International with dualies, you are probably
> gonna need a cat or tractor anyway.
>
> Brett Ryan proclaimed:
>
>> Troy,
>> I think that people who would buy such a thing would have no clue in
>> how to drive off road. Heck, I've known a lot of jeep owners that have
>> no clue about how to drive on a paved road. This is a move by DC's
>> marketing group. It will sell, and sell in good numbers to those who
>> like the Jeep "look" but don't want anything else from a Jeep.
>>
>> Brett
>>
>> Troy wrote:
>>
>>> I swear if any of you guys/girls get a 2wd wrangler and get stuck I'm
>>> gonna laugh at you before I offer the tow rope, oh and take a picture
>>> too. I just checked out the 07's on the website. At least only the 4
>>> door wranglers will be 2wd from what I can tell.
>>>
>>> Troy
>>>

 

I hardly think a big rig compares to a 2wd pickup/SUV. A full size big rig
has got dual rear axles, with a total of eight rear 40" tires, and generally
the ability to lock both rear axles. This is a far sight from a pickup on
28" tires with only one rear wheel spinning in the mud.

Carl


"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:F7WdnWBsncuVxLTYnZ2dnUVZ_rCdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> And, when driven by someone with minimal skills, will go pretty much
> anywhere that a 4x4 will except for poor traction or really rough trails.
> As 2wd pickup and truck drivers have known for decades.
> It if gets too rough for an International with dualies, you are probably
> gonna need a cat or tractor anyway.
>
> Brett Ryan proclaimed:
>
>> Troy,
>> I think that people who would buy such a thing would have no clue in
>> how to drive off road. Heck, I've known a lot of jeep owners that have
>> no clue about how to drive on a paved road. This is a move by DC's
>> marketing group. It will sell, and sell in good numbers to those who
>> like the Jeep "look" but don't want anything else from a Jeep.
>>
>> Brett
>>
>> Troy wrote:
>>
>>> I swear if any of you guys/girls get a 2wd wrangler and get stuck I'm
>>> gonna laugh at you before I offer the tow rope, oh and take a picture
>>> too. I just checked out the 07's on the website. At least only the 4
>>> door wranglers will be 2wd from what I can tell.
>>>
>>> Troy
>>>