2nd odometer question.
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Re: 2nd odometer question.
Both.
They can be ordered with either, your VIN states the right one.
Our Cherokee label says 205, 215 and 225.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
JD wrote:
>
> Ok, what's right. the door sticker list the original tire size at
> P215/75R15 .. When I called a local dealer and gave them the Vin# he
> said P225/75R15.
>
> JD
> 2K-TJ
>
> "There are some simple truths...And the dogs know what they are."
> Joseph Duemer
They can be ordered with either, your VIN states the right one.
Our Cherokee label says 205, 215 and 225.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
JD wrote:
>
> Ok, what's right. the door sticker list the original tire size at
> P215/75R15 .. When I called a local dealer and gave them the Vin# he
> said P225/75R15.
>
> JD
> 2K-TJ
>
> "There are some simple truths...And the dogs know what they are."
> Joseph Duemer
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Re: 2nd odometer question.
On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 17:06:07 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:
>When I got my CJ7 it had 31's on it and i swore it was reading off the
>wrong way. Put 33's on and it checks out with my GPS perfectly.
>
The owners manual to my GPS says that the groundspeed on my GPS will
not always be accurate:
"For security reasions, the U.S. Government introduces small
errors(selective availability)which can affect positioning
information. These errors are most noticeable while viewing speed,
heading, and elevation."
Now, I know you're in Canada, but don't you guys use the same
satellites as us for GPS purposes?
--
Old Crow
'82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
'95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51
wrote:
>When I got my CJ7 it had 31's on it and i swore it was reading off the
>wrong way. Put 33's on and it checks out with my GPS perfectly.
>
The owners manual to my GPS says that the groundspeed on my GPS will
not always be accurate:
"For security reasions, the U.S. Government introduces small
errors(selective availability)which can affect positioning
information. These errors are most noticeable while viewing speed,
heading, and elevation."
Now, I know you're in Canada, but don't you guys use the same
satellites as us for GPS purposes?
--
Old Crow
'82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
'95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51
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Re: 2nd odometer question.
On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 17:06:07 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:
>When I got my CJ7 it had 31's on it and i swore it was reading off the
>wrong way. Put 33's on and it checks out with my GPS perfectly.
>
The owners manual to my GPS says that the groundspeed on my GPS will
not always be accurate:
"For security reasions, the U.S. Government introduces small
errors(selective availability)which can affect positioning
information. These errors are most noticeable while viewing speed,
heading, and elevation."
Now, I know you're in Canada, but don't you guys use the same
satellites as us for GPS purposes?
--
Old Crow
'82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
'95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51
wrote:
>When I got my CJ7 it had 31's on it and i swore it was reading off the
>wrong way. Put 33's on and it checks out with my GPS perfectly.
>
The owners manual to my GPS says that the groundspeed on my GPS will
not always be accurate:
"For security reasions, the U.S. Government introduces small
errors(selective availability)which can affect positioning
information. These errors are most noticeable while viewing speed,
heading, and elevation."
Now, I know you're in Canada, but don't you guys use the same
satellites as us for GPS purposes?
--
Old Crow
'82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
'95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51
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Re: 2nd odometer question.
On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 17:06:07 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:
>When I got my CJ7 it had 31's on it and i swore it was reading off the
>wrong way. Put 33's on and it checks out with my GPS perfectly.
>
The owners manual to my GPS says that the groundspeed on my GPS will
not always be accurate:
"For security reasions, the U.S. Government introduces small
errors(selective availability)which can affect positioning
information. These errors are most noticeable while viewing speed,
heading, and elevation."
Now, I know you're in Canada, but don't you guys use the same
satellites as us for GPS purposes?
--
Old Crow
'82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
'95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51
wrote:
>When I got my CJ7 it had 31's on it and i swore it was reading off the
>wrong way. Put 33's on and it checks out with my GPS perfectly.
>
The owners manual to my GPS says that the groundspeed on my GPS will
not always be accurate:
"For security reasions, the U.S. Government introduces small
errors(selective availability)which can affect positioning
information. These errors are most noticeable while viewing speed,
heading, and elevation."
Now, I know you're in Canada, but don't you guys use the same
satellites as us for GPS purposes?
--
Old Crow
'82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
'95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51
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Re: 2nd odometer question.
On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 17:06:07 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:
>When I got my CJ7 it had 31's on it and i swore it was reading off the
>wrong way. Put 33's on and it checks out with my GPS perfectly.
>
The owners manual to my GPS says that the groundspeed on my GPS will
not always be accurate:
"For security reasions, the U.S. Government introduces small
errors(selective availability)which can affect positioning
information. These errors are most noticeable while viewing speed,
heading, and elevation."
Now, I know you're in Canada, but don't you guys use the same
satellites as us for GPS purposes?
--
Old Crow
'82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
'95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51
wrote:
>When I got my CJ7 it had 31's on it and i swore it was reading off the
>wrong way. Put 33's on and it checks out with my GPS perfectly.
>
The owners manual to my GPS says that the groundspeed on my GPS will
not always be accurate:
"For security reasions, the U.S. Government introduces small
errors(selective availability)which can affect positioning
information. These errors are most noticeable while viewing speed,
heading, and elevation."
Now, I know you're in Canada, but don't you guys use the same
satellites as us for GPS purposes?
--
Old Crow
'82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
'95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51
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Re: 2nd odometer question.
I had thought that the US gov't had declassified the GPS offset thing.
Basically that they had turned off the function that causes inaccuracies.
If it's still on now...well....I've been able to get 3m accuracy which seems
to me to still be pretty good. Any small warhead would still do damage if
it was 3m off!! So I dunno!!
We use the same network of GPS satellites. I'm not sure of the "spacing" of
them but I don't think we use the same sat in the Yukon that someone in
florida uses.
Isn't there like 30 sats for gps??
I know that towards the poles, sometimes there's not enough sats 'visible'
to your reciever to give it a proper reading!
"Old Crow" <walliscrow@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:6hvuf05r6i6cmso4hf9mtj5pcaujpbkkuf@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 17:06:07 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
> >When I got my CJ7 it had 31's on it and i swore it was reading off the
> >wrong way. Put 33's on and it checks out with my GPS perfectly.
> >
>
> The owners manual to my GPS says that the groundspeed on my GPS will
> not always be accurate:
>
> "For security reasions, the U.S. Government introduces small
> errors(selective availability)which can affect positioning
> information. These errors are most noticeable while viewing speed,
> heading, and elevation."
>
> Now, I know you're in Canada, but don't you guys use the same
> satellites as us for GPS purposes?
> --
> Old Crow
> '82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
> '95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
> ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
> TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51
Basically that they had turned off the function that causes inaccuracies.
If it's still on now...well....I've been able to get 3m accuracy which seems
to me to still be pretty good. Any small warhead would still do damage if
it was 3m off!! So I dunno!!
We use the same network of GPS satellites. I'm not sure of the "spacing" of
them but I don't think we use the same sat in the Yukon that someone in
florida uses.
Isn't there like 30 sats for gps??
I know that towards the poles, sometimes there's not enough sats 'visible'
to your reciever to give it a proper reading!
"Old Crow" <walliscrow@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:6hvuf05r6i6cmso4hf9mtj5pcaujpbkkuf@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 17:06:07 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
> >When I got my CJ7 it had 31's on it and i swore it was reading off the
> >wrong way. Put 33's on and it checks out with my GPS perfectly.
> >
>
> The owners manual to my GPS says that the groundspeed on my GPS will
> not always be accurate:
>
> "For security reasions, the U.S. Government introduces small
> errors(selective availability)which can affect positioning
> information. These errors are most noticeable while viewing speed,
> heading, and elevation."
>
> Now, I know you're in Canada, but don't you guys use the same
> satellites as us for GPS purposes?
> --
> Old Crow
> '82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
> '95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
> ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
> TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51
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Re: 2nd odometer question.
I had thought that the US gov't had declassified the GPS offset thing.
Basically that they had turned off the function that causes inaccuracies.
If it's still on now...well....I've been able to get 3m accuracy which seems
to me to still be pretty good. Any small warhead would still do damage if
it was 3m off!! So I dunno!!
We use the same network of GPS satellites. I'm not sure of the "spacing" of
them but I don't think we use the same sat in the Yukon that someone in
florida uses.
Isn't there like 30 sats for gps??
I know that towards the poles, sometimes there's not enough sats 'visible'
to your reciever to give it a proper reading!
"Old Crow" <walliscrow@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:6hvuf05r6i6cmso4hf9mtj5pcaujpbkkuf@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 17:06:07 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
> >When I got my CJ7 it had 31's on it and i swore it was reading off the
> >wrong way. Put 33's on and it checks out with my GPS perfectly.
> >
>
> The owners manual to my GPS says that the groundspeed on my GPS will
> not always be accurate:
>
> "For security reasions, the U.S. Government introduces small
> errors(selective availability)which can affect positioning
> information. These errors are most noticeable while viewing speed,
> heading, and elevation."
>
> Now, I know you're in Canada, but don't you guys use the same
> satellites as us for GPS purposes?
> --
> Old Crow
> '82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
> '95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
> ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
> TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51
Basically that they had turned off the function that causes inaccuracies.
If it's still on now...well....I've been able to get 3m accuracy which seems
to me to still be pretty good. Any small warhead would still do damage if
it was 3m off!! So I dunno!!
We use the same network of GPS satellites. I'm not sure of the "spacing" of
them but I don't think we use the same sat in the Yukon that someone in
florida uses.
Isn't there like 30 sats for gps??
I know that towards the poles, sometimes there's not enough sats 'visible'
to your reciever to give it a proper reading!
"Old Crow" <walliscrow@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:6hvuf05r6i6cmso4hf9mtj5pcaujpbkkuf@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 17:06:07 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
> >When I got my CJ7 it had 31's on it and i swore it was reading off the
> >wrong way. Put 33's on and it checks out with my GPS perfectly.
> >
>
> The owners manual to my GPS says that the groundspeed on my GPS will
> not always be accurate:
>
> "For security reasions, the U.S. Government introduces small
> errors(selective availability)which can affect positioning
> information. These errors are most noticeable while viewing speed,
> heading, and elevation."
>
> Now, I know you're in Canada, but don't you guys use the same
> satellites as us for GPS purposes?
> --
> Old Crow
> '82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
> '95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
> ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
> TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51
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Re: 2nd odometer question.
I had thought that the US gov't had declassified the GPS offset thing.
Basically that they had turned off the function that causes inaccuracies.
If it's still on now...well....I've been able to get 3m accuracy which seems
to me to still be pretty good. Any small warhead would still do damage if
it was 3m off!! So I dunno!!
We use the same network of GPS satellites. I'm not sure of the "spacing" of
them but I don't think we use the same sat in the Yukon that someone in
florida uses.
Isn't there like 30 sats for gps??
I know that towards the poles, sometimes there's not enough sats 'visible'
to your reciever to give it a proper reading!
"Old Crow" <walliscrow@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:6hvuf05r6i6cmso4hf9mtj5pcaujpbkkuf@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 17:06:07 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
> >When I got my CJ7 it had 31's on it and i swore it was reading off the
> >wrong way. Put 33's on and it checks out with my GPS perfectly.
> >
>
> The owners manual to my GPS says that the groundspeed on my GPS will
> not always be accurate:
>
> "For security reasions, the U.S. Government introduces small
> errors(selective availability)which can affect positioning
> information. These errors are most noticeable while viewing speed,
> heading, and elevation."
>
> Now, I know you're in Canada, but don't you guys use the same
> satellites as us for GPS purposes?
> --
> Old Crow
> '82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
> '95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
> ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
> TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51
Basically that they had turned off the function that causes inaccuracies.
If it's still on now...well....I've been able to get 3m accuracy which seems
to me to still be pretty good. Any small warhead would still do damage if
it was 3m off!! So I dunno!!
We use the same network of GPS satellites. I'm not sure of the "spacing" of
them but I don't think we use the same sat in the Yukon that someone in
florida uses.
Isn't there like 30 sats for gps??
I know that towards the poles, sometimes there's not enough sats 'visible'
to your reciever to give it a proper reading!
"Old Crow" <walliscrow@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:6hvuf05r6i6cmso4hf9mtj5pcaujpbkkuf@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 17:06:07 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
> >When I got my CJ7 it had 31's on it and i swore it was reading off the
> >wrong way. Put 33's on and it checks out with my GPS perfectly.
> >
>
> The owners manual to my GPS says that the groundspeed on my GPS will
> not always be accurate:
>
> "For security reasions, the U.S. Government introduces small
> errors(selective availability)which can affect positioning
> information. These errors are most noticeable while viewing speed,
> heading, and elevation."
>
> Now, I know you're in Canada, but don't you guys use the same
> satellites as us for GPS purposes?
> --
> Old Crow
> '82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
> '95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
> ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
> TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51
#29
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Re: 2nd odometer question.
I had thought that the US gov't had declassified the GPS offset thing.
Basically that they had turned off the function that causes inaccuracies.
If it's still on now...well....I've been able to get 3m accuracy which seems
to me to still be pretty good. Any small warhead would still do damage if
it was 3m off!! So I dunno!!
We use the same network of GPS satellites. I'm not sure of the "spacing" of
them but I don't think we use the same sat in the Yukon that someone in
florida uses.
Isn't there like 30 sats for gps??
I know that towards the poles, sometimes there's not enough sats 'visible'
to your reciever to give it a proper reading!
"Old Crow" <walliscrow@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:6hvuf05r6i6cmso4hf9mtj5pcaujpbkkuf@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 17:06:07 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
> >When I got my CJ7 it had 31's on it and i swore it was reading off the
> >wrong way. Put 33's on and it checks out with my GPS perfectly.
> >
>
> The owners manual to my GPS says that the groundspeed on my GPS will
> not always be accurate:
>
> "For security reasions, the U.S. Government introduces small
> errors(selective availability)which can affect positioning
> information. These errors are most noticeable while viewing speed,
> heading, and elevation."
>
> Now, I know you're in Canada, but don't you guys use the same
> satellites as us for GPS purposes?
> --
> Old Crow
> '82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
> '95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
> ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
> TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51
Basically that they had turned off the function that causes inaccuracies.
If it's still on now...well....I've been able to get 3m accuracy which seems
to me to still be pretty good. Any small warhead would still do damage if
it was 3m off!! So I dunno!!
We use the same network of GPS satellites. I'm not sure of the "spacing" of
them but I don't think we use the same sat in the Yukon that someone in
florida uses.
Isn't there like 30 sats for gps??
I know that towards the poles, sometimes there's not enough sats 'visible'
to your reciever to give it a proper reading!
"Old Crow" <walliscrow@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:6hvuf05r6i6cmso4hf9mtj5pcaujpbkkuf@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 17:06:07 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
> >When I got my CJ7 it had 31's on it and i swore it was reading off the
> >wrong way. Put 33's on and it checks out with my GPS perfectly.
> >
>
> The owners manual to my GPS says that the groundspeed on my GPS will
> not always be accurate:
>
> "For security reasions, the U.S. Government introduces small
> errors(selective availability)which can affect positioning
> information. These errors are most noticeable while viewing speed,
> heading, and elevation."
>
> Now, I know you're in Canada, but don't you guys use the same
> satellites as us for GPS purposes?
> --
> Old Crow
> '82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
> '95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
> ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
> TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51
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Re: 2nd odometer question.
If you are getting 3m accuracy it is turned off. With the inaccuracies
switched on it was about 50m off IIRC. Some GPS receivers support
supplementary readings from (usually costal) radio transmitters which can
get it down to 1.5m ; this is called DGPS (Differential GPS).
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:x5NLc.5162$5GQ.517@news04.bloor.is.net.cable. rogers.com...
> I had thought that the US gov't had declassified the GPS offset thing.
> Basically that they had turned off the function that causes inaccuracies.
> If it's still on now...well....I've been able to get 3m accuracy which
seems
> to me to still be pretty good. Any small warhead would still do damage if
> it was 3m off!! So I dunno!!
>
> We use the same network of GPS satellites. I'm not sure of the "spacing"
of
> them but I don't think we use the same sat in the Yukon that someone in
> florida uses.
> Isn't there like 30 sats for gps??
> I know that towards the poles, sometimes there's not enough sats 'visible'
> to your reciever to give it a proper reading!
>
>
> "Old Crow" <walliscrow@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:6hvuf05r6i6cmso4hf9mtj5pcaujpbkkuf@4ax.com...
> > On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 17:06:07 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >When I got my CJ7 it had 31's on it and i swore it was reading off the
> > >wrong way. Put 33's on and it checks out with my GPS perfectly.
> > >
> >
> > The owners manual to my GPS says that the groundspeed on my GPS will
> > not always be accurate:
> >
> > "For security reasions, the U.S. Government introduces small
> > errors(selective availability)which can affect positioning
> > information. These errors are most noticeable while viewing speed,
> > heading, and elevation."
> >
> > Now, I know you're in Canada, but don't you guys use the same
> > satellites as us for GPS purposes?
> > --
> > Old Crow
> > '82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
> > '95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
> > ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
> > TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51
>
>
switched on it was about 50m off IIRC. Some GPS receivers support
supplementary readings from (usually costal) radio transmitters which can
get it down to 1.5m ; this is called DGPS (Differential GPS).
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:x5NLc.5162$5GQ.517@news04.bloor.is.net.cable. rogers.com...
> I had thought that the US gov't had declassified the GPS offset thing.
> Basically that they had turned off the function that causes inaccuracies.
> If it's still on now...well....I've been able to get 3m accuracy which
seems
> to me to still be pretty good. Any small warhead would still do damage if
> it was 3m off!! So I dunno!!
>
> We use the same network of GPS satellites. I'm not sure of the "spacing"
of
> them but I don't think we use the same sat in the Yukon that someone in
> florida uses.
> Isn't there like 30 sats for gps??
> I know that towards the poles, sometimes there's not enough sats 'visible'
> to your reciever to give it a proper reading!
>
>
> "Old Crow" <walliscrow@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:6hvuf05r6i6cmso4hf9mtj5pcaujpbkkuf@4ax.com...
> > On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 17:06:07 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >When I got my CJ7 it had 31's on it and i swore it was reading off the
> > >wrong way. Put 33's on and it checks out with my GPS perfectly.
> > >
> >
> > The owners manual to my GPS says that the groundspeed on my GPS will
> > not always be accurate:
> >
> > "For security reasions, the U.S. Government introduces small
> > errors(selective availability)which can affect positioning
> > information. These errors are most noticeable while viewing speed,
> > heading, and elevation."
> >
> > Now, I know you're in Canada, but don't you guys use the same
> > satellites as us for GPS purposes?
> > --
> > Old Crow
> > '82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
> > '95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
> > ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
> > TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51
>
>