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Google Poster 09-28-2003 09:12 AM

2nd Liberty - 3rd Jeep - 4th Chrysler
 
6 years...
1 Wrangler 4.0L SE
baby forced sale
Dodge Ram for me
'02 Jeep Liberty for her
Just sold my Ram for a diesel - fuel prices forced sale. 70 miles a
day!
Collison in the Liberty this last week. A car lost control, crossed
the center median and hit the liberty head on. Wife, Child + other 5
year old all fine.
The liberty is *not*.....
I am amazed and very thankful that no one was hurt.
Yesterday - signed on a '03 Liberty as a replacement.

So...Liberty is not a real Jeep? Who cares......

The most important thing for me is keeping my family safe.
The liberty proved that it can - I do not think a Wrangler would fair
well.

I do not pretend that it will ever mud axle deep - or climb rocks. If
the carpark at the local Walmart is icey/snowy - that will be the most
offroading it will do.

I would not take it off-road anyway...on road driving is enough
excitement and danger for this Jeep.

--
gp

Jon Patrick 09-28-2003 09:33 AM

Re: 2nd Liberty - 3rd Jeep - 4th Chrysler
 

Congrat's on the history of Jeepdom. I've owned 1 CJ5 (a 'mutt' of a
car), 1 Wrangler, and 1 cherokee. I just sold the cherokee because the
poor thing was being used as a commuter car and both she and I were
unhappy. I bought a ....

(ford)

But, most importantly, I'm glad to hear your family is safe.
Take care,
Jon


googleposter@yahoo.com (Google Poster) wrote in
news:d077a7d9.0309280512.440c52f4@posting.google.c om:

> 6 years...
> 1 Wrangler 4.0L SE
> baby forced sale
> Dodge Ram for me
> '02 Jeep Liberty for her
> Just sold my Ram for a diesel - fuel prices forced sale. 70 miles a
> day!
> Collison in the Liberty this last week. A car lost control, crossed
> the center median and hit the liberty head on. Wife, Child + other 5
> year old all fine.
> The liberty is *not*.....
> I am amazed and very thankful that no one was hurt.
> Yesterday - signed on a '03 Liberty as a replacement.
>


Jon Patrick 09-28-2003 09:33 AM

Re: 2nd Liberty - 3rd Jeep - 4th Chrysler
 

Congrat's on the history of Jeepdom. I've owned 1 CJ5 (a 'mutt' of a
car), 1 Wrangler, and 1 cherokee. I just sold the cherokee because the
poor thing was being used as a commuter car and both she and I were
unhappy. I bought a ....

(ford)

But, most importantly, I'm glad to hear your family is safe.
Take care,
Jon


googleposter@yahoo.com (Google Poster) wrote in
news:d077a7d9.0309280512.440c52f4@posting.google.c om:

> 6 years...
> 1 Wrangler 4.0L SE
> baby forced sale
> Dodge Ram for me
> '02 Jeep Liberty for her
> Just sold my Ram for a diesel - fuel prices forced sale. 70 miles a
> day!
> Collison in the Liberty this last week. A car lost control, crossed
> the center median and hit the liberty head on. Wife, Child + other 5
> year old all fine.
> The liberty is *not*.....
> I am amazed and very thankful that no one was hurt.
> Yesterday - signed on a '03 Liberty as a replacement.
>


Auxcool 09-28-2003 02:22 PM

Re: 2nd Liberty - 3rd Jeep - 4th Chrysler
 
I am also loyal to the Jeep line. I bought my lady a 02 Liberty, 2WD and
devoid of the nice options, just power windows and cruise. Then I found a
'98 TJ. I previously had a VW rag top and sold it for the Wrangler. Not
everywhere has the places to go offroading but the Wrangler is IMHO the
ultimate ragtop. The highest elevation in Mississippi is 830 feet....not
even close to where I live. Last Wednesday I bought her an '03 Liberty with
all the nice options, 4WD, CD, sunroof, same color and still a Sport (We do
not like the Limited with the flares painted the same color as the body.)

I know many of the group here have Wranglers and/or Cherokees. That's cool,
but I think there's enough room for Libertys in the world. Since the name
of the group lends itself more to the Wrangler, maybe a group is needed for
the SUV side of the house. I don't consider my TJ a SUV, to me it is a
Special Utility Truck, that can't carry much more than people.

I enjoy the group but dislike those who have to disrespect anyone who
doesn't own their style vehicle. It begins to sound like history from the
'60s.............I have a dream that one day little Wranglers and little
Libertys will stand side by side as one and join hands with the Cherokee to
make a better tomorrow.

As I was buying the '03 I asked the owner of the dealership about Scramblers
and new things coming out. He told me as far as he knew the only change to
the line for the next few years is the addition of a third seat option to
the GC.

Ed
o_o_o_o
/| ,[_____],
|¯¯¯L --O|||||||O-
()_)¯()_) ¯¯¯ )_)

'98 Wrangler TJ
'02 Liberty "Rusty"
'03 Liberty "Dale"



Auxcool 09-28-2003 02:22 PM

Re: 2nd Liberty - 3rd Jeep - 4th Chrysler
 
I am also loyal to the Jeep line. I bought my lady a 02 Liberty, 2WD and
devoid of the nice options, just power windows and cruise. Then I found a
'98 TJ. I previously had a VW rag top and sold it for the Wrangler. Not
everywhere has the places to go offroading but the Wrangler is IMHO the
ultimate ragtop. The highest elevation in Mississippi is 830 feet....not
even close to where I live. Last Wednesday I bought her an '03 Liberty with
all the nice options, 4WD, CD, sunroof, same color and still a Sport (We do
not like the Limited with the flares painted the same color as the body.)

I know many of the group here have Wranglers and/or Cherokees. That's cool,
but I think there's enough room for Libertys in the world. Since the name
of the group lends itself more to the Wrangler, maybe a group is needed for
the SUV side of the house. I don't consider my TJ a SUV, to me it is a
Special Utility Truck, that can't carry much more than people.

I enjoy the group but dislike those who have to disrespect anyone who
doesn't own their style vehicle. It begins to sound like history from the
'60s.............I have a dream that one day little Wranglers and little
Libertys will stand side by side as one and join hands with the Cherokee to
make a better tomorrow.

As I was buying the '03 I asked the owner of the dealership about Scramblers
and new things coming out. He told me as far as he knew the only change to
the line for the next few years is the addition of a third seat option to
the GC.

Ed
o_o_o_o
/| ,[_____],
|¯¯¯L --O|||||||O-
()_)¯()_) ¯¯¯ )_)

'98 Wrangler TJ
'02 Liberty "Rusty"
'03 Liberty "Dale"



L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 09-28-2003 04:42 PM

Re: 2nd Liberty - 3rd Jeep - 4th Chrysler
 
Glad to hear all made it though the head-no OK.
Sounds like a mini van may be a better choice for you, seeing gas
mileage is a factor.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Google Poster wrote:
>
> 6 years...
> 1 Wrangler 4.0L SE
> baby forced sale
> Dodge Ram for me
> '02 Jeep Liberty for her
> Just sold my Ram for a diesel - fuel prices forced sale. 70 miles a
> day!
> Collison in the Liberty this last week. A car lost control, crossed
> the center median and hit the liberty head on. Wife, Child + other 5
> year old all fine.
> The liberty is *not*.....
> I am amazed and very thankful that no one was hurt.
> Yesterday - signed on a '03 Liberty as a replacement.
>
> So...Liberty is not a real Jeep? Who cares......
>
> The most important thing for me is keeping my family safe.
> The liberty proved that it can - I do not think a Wrangler would fair
> well.
>
> I do not pretend that it will ever mud axle deep - or climb rocks. If
> the carpark at the local Walmart is icey/snowy - that will be the most
> offroading it will do.
>
> I would not take it off-road anyway...on road driving is enough
> excitement and danger for this Jeep.
>
> --
> gp


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 09-28-2003 04:42 PM

Re: 2nd Liberty - 3rd Jeep - 4th Chrysler
 
Glad to hear all made it though the head-no OK.
Sounds like a mini van may be a better choice for you, seeing gas
mileage is a factor.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Google Poster wrote:
>
> 6 years...
> 1 Wrangler 4.0L SE
> baby forced sale
> Dodge Ram for me
> '02 Jeep Liberty for her
> Just sold my Ram for a diesel - fuel prices forced sale. 70 miles a
> day!
> Collison in the Liberty this last week. A car lost control, crossed
> the center median and hit the liberty head on. Wife, Child + other 5
> year old all fine.
> The liberty is *not*.....
> I am amazed and very thankful that no one was hurt.
> Yesterday - signed on a '03 Liberty as a replacement.
>
> So...Liberty is not a real Jeep? Who cares......
>
> The most important thing for me is keeping my family safe.
> The liberty proved that it can - I do not think a Wrangler would fair
> well.
>
> I do not pretend that it will ever mud axle deep - or climb rocks. If
> the carpark at the local Walmart is icey/snowy - that will be the most
> offroading it will do.
>
> I would not take it off-road anyway...on road driving is enough
> excitement and danger for this Jeep.
>
> --
> gp


Earle Horton 09-28-2003 05:20 PM

Re: 2nd Liberty - 3rd Jeep - 4th Chrysler
 
But Bill, isn't a Liberty a type of mini-van?

Earle

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:3F77479D.C170870A@cox.net...
> Glad to hear all made it though the head-no OK.
> Sounds like a mini van may be a better choice for you, seeing gas
> mileage is a factor.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Google Poster wrote:
> >
> > 6 years...
> > 1 Wrangler 4.0L SE
> > baby forced sale
> > Dodge Ram for me
> > '02 Jeep Liberty for her
> > Just sold my Ram for a diesel - fuel prices forced sale. 70 miles a
> > day!
> > Collison in the Liberty this last week. A car lost control, crossed
> > the center median and hit the liberty head on. Wife, Child + other 5
> > year old all fine.
> > The liberty is *not*.....
> > I am amazed and very thankful that no one was hurt.
> > Yesterday - signed on a '03 Liberty as a replacement.
> >
> > So...Liberty is not a real Jeep? Who cares......
> >
> > The most important thing for me is keeping my family safe.
> > The liberty proved that it can - I do not think a Wrangler would fair
> > well.
> >
> > I do not pretend that it will ever mud axle deep - or climb rocks. If
> > the carpark at the local Walmart is icey/snowy - that will be the most
> > offroading it will do.
> >
> > I would not take it off-road anyway...on road driving is enough
> > excitement and danger for this Jeep.
> >
> > --
> > gp




Earle Horton 09-28-2003 05:20 PM

Re: 2nd Liberty - 3rd Jeep - 4th Chrysler
 
But Bill, isn't a Liberty a type of mini-van?

Earle

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:3F77479D.C170870A@cox.net...
> Glad to hear all made it though the head-no OK.
> Sounds like a mini van may be a better choice for you, seeing gas
> mileage is a factor.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Google Poster wrote:
> >
> > 6 years...
> > 1 Wrangler 4.0L SE
> > baby forced sale
> > Dodge Ram for me
> > '02 Jeep Liberty for her
> > Just sold my Ram for a diesel - fuel prices forced sale. 70 miles a
> > day!
> > Collison in the Liberty this last week. A car lost control, crossed
> > the center median and hit the liberty head on. Wife, Child + other 5
> > year old all fine.
> > The liberty is *not*.....
> > I am amazed and very thankful that no one was hurt.
> > Yesterday - signed on a '03 Liberty as a replacement.
> >
> > So...Liberty is not a real Jeep? Who cares......
> >
> > The most important thing for me is keeping my family safe.
> > The liberty proved that it can - I do not think a Wrangler would fair
> > well.
> >
> > I do not pretend that it will ever mud axle deep - or climb rocks. If
> > the carpark at the local Walmart is icey/snowy - that will be the most
> > offroading it will do.
> >
> > I would not take it off-road anyway...on road driving is enough
> > excitement and danger for this Jeep.
> >
> > --
> > gp




mabar 09-28-2003 05:24 PM

Re: 2nd Liberty - 3rd Jeep - 4th Chrysler
 
Glad to hear that your family is fine!

Tom

"Google Poster" <googleposter@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:d077a7d9.0309280512.440c52f4@posting.google.c om...
> 6 years...
> 1 Wrangler 4.0L SE
> baby forced sale
> Dodge Ram for me
> '02 Jeep Liberty for her
> Just sold my Ram for a diesel - fuel prices forced sale. 70 miles a
> day!
> Collison in the Liberty this last week. A car lost control, crossed
> the center median and hit the liberty head on. Wife, Child + other 5
> year old all fine.
> The liberty is *not*.....
> I am amazed and very thankful that no one was hurt.
> Yesterday - signed on a '03 Liberty as a replacement.
>
> So...Liberty is not a real Jeep? Who cares......
>
> The most important thing for me is keeping my family safe.
> The liberty proved that it can - I do not think a Wrangler would fair
> well.
>
> I do not pretend that it will ever mud axle deep - or climb rocks. If
> the carpark at the local Walmart is icey/snowy - that will be the most
> offroading it will do.
>
> I would not take it off-road anyway...on road driving is enough
> excitement and danger for this Jeep.
>
> --
> gp




mabar 09-28-2003 05:24 PM

Re: 2nd Liberty - 3rd Jeep - 4th Chrysler
 
Glad to hear that your family is fine!

Tom

"Google Poster" <googleposter@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:d077a7d9.0309280512.440c52f4@posting.google.c om...
> 6 years...
> 1 Wrangler 4.0L SE
> baby forced sale
> Dodge Ram for me
> '02 Jeep Liberty for her
> Just sold my Ram for a diesel - fuel prices forced sale. 70 miles a
> day!
> Collison in the Liberty this last week. A car lost control, crossed
> the center median and hit the liberty head on. Wife, Child + other 5
> year old all fine.
> The liberty is *not*.....
> I am amazed and very thankful that no one was hurt.
> Yesterday - signed on a '03 Liberty as a replacement.
>
> So...Liberty is not a real Jeep? Who cares......
>
> The most important thing for me is keeping my family safe.
> The liberty proved that it can - I do not think a Wrangler would fair
> well.
>
> I do not pretend that it will ever mud axle deep - or climb rocks. If
> the carpark at the local Walmart is icey/snowy - that will be the most
> offroading it will do.
>
> I would not take it off-road anyway...on road driving is enough
> excitement and danger for this Jeep.
>
> --
> gp




Google Poster 09-29-2003 02:34 PM

Re: 2nd Liberty - 3rd Jeep - 4th Chrysler
 
L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:<3F77479D.C170870A@cox.net>...
> Glad to hear all made it though the head-no OK.

Thank you for you concern

> Sounds like a mini van may be a better choice for you, seeing gas
> mileage is a factor.


Or make them ride Pushbikes - or horses - or walk...
Interesting logic ......

--
gp

Google Poster 09-29-2003 02:34 PM

Re: 2nd Liberty - 3rd Jeep - 4th Chrysler
 
L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:<3F77479D.C170870A@cox.net>...
> Glad to hear all made it though the head-no OK.

Thank you for you concern

> Sounds like a mini van may be a better choice for you, seeing gas
> mileage is a factor.


Or make them ride Pushbikes - or horses - or walk...
Interesting logic ......

--
gp

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 09-29-2003 03:14 PM

Re: 2nd Liberty - 3rd Jeep - 4th Chrysler
 
What logic makes you suggest "Or make them ride Pushbikes - or
horses - or walk..." ? For you and others with a short term memory loss
problem, you wrote: "Just sold my Ram for a diesel - fuel prices forced
sale."
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Google Poster wrote:
>
> Or make them ride Pushbikes - or horses - or walk...
> Interesting logic ......
>
> --
> gp


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 09-29-2003 03:14 PM

Re: 2nd Liberty - 3rd Jeep - 4th Chrysler
 
What logic makes you suggest "Or make them ride Pushbikes - or
horses - or walk..." ? For you and others with a short term memory loss
problem, you wrote: "Just sold my Ram for a diesel - fuel prices forced
sale."
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Google Poster wrote:
>
> Or make them ride Pushbikes - or horses - or walk...
> Interesting logic ......
>
> --
> gp


Google Poster 09-30-2003 09:04 AM

Re: 2nd Liberty - 3rd Jeep - 4th Chrysler
 
L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:<3F78848D.B7EE429A@cox.net>...
> What logic makes you suggest "Or make them ride Pushbikes - or
> horses - or walk..." ? For you and others with a short term memory loss
> problem, you wrote: "Just sold my Ram for a diesel - fuel prices forced
> sale."


I assure you my wife would rather walk than drive a minivan. I would
rather ride a horse.

Ram - Fuel Prices - Diesel
Jeep Liberty - Crashed - Jeep Liberty

Where is the connection between the Ram and the Jeep?
Where is the fuel prices concerns mentioned in connection with Jeep?
Why would I move from away from Jeep to a Minivan?
Why would you promote the purchase a vehicle outside the realms of
those covered in this group?

--
gp

Google Poster 09-30-2003 09:04 AM

Re: 2nd Liberty - 3rd Jeep - 4th Chrysler
 
L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:<3F78848D.B7EE429A@cox.net>...
> What logic makes you suggest "Or make them ride Pushbikes - or
> horses - or walk..." ? For you and others with a short term memory loss
> problem, you wrote: "Just sold my Ram for a diesel - fuel prices forced
> sale."


I assure you my wife would rather walk than drive a minivan. I would
rather ride a horse.

Ram - Fuel Prices - Diesel
Jeep Liberty - Crashed - Jeep Liberty

Where is the connection between the Ram and the Jeep?
Where is the fuel prices concerns mentioned in connection with Jeep?
Why would I move from away from Jeep to a Minivan?
Why would you promote the purchase a vehicle outside the realms of
those covered in this group?

--
gp

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 09-30-2003 12:59 PM

Re: 2nd Liberty - 3rd Jeep - 4th Chrysler
 
So in your multiple personalities, one thinks fuel economy, and the
other doesn't, I understand, now.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Google Poster wrote:
>
> I assure you my wife would rather walk than drive a minivan. I would
> rather ride a horse.
>
> Ram - Fuel Prices - Diesel
> Jeep Liberty - Crashed - Jeep Liberty
>
> Where is the connection between the Ram and the Jeep?
> Where is the fuel prices concerns mentioned in connection with Jeep?
> Why would I move from away from Jeep to a Minivan?
> Why would you promote the purchase a vehicle outside the realms of
> those covered in this group?
>
> --
> gp


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 09-30-2003 12:59 PM

Re: 2nd Liberty - 3rd Jeep - 4th Chrysler
 
So in your multiple personalities, one thinks fuel economy, and the
other doesn't, I understand, now.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Google Poster wrote:
>
> I assure you my wife would rather walk than drive a minivan. I would
> rather ride a horse.
>
> Ram - Fuel Prices - Diesel
> Jeep Liberty - Crashed - Jeep Liberty
>
> Where is the connection between the Ram and the Jeep?
> Where is the fuel prices concerns mentioned in connection with Jeep?
> Why would I move from away from Jeep to a Minivan?
> Why would you promote the purchase a vehicle outside the realms of
> those covered in this group?
>
> --
> gp


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 09-30-2003 01:21 PM

Re: 2nd Liberty - 3rd Jeep - 4th Chrysler
 
Yes Earle, but with very poor mileage.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Earle Horton wrote:
>
> But Bill, isn't a Liberty a type of mini-van?
>
> Earle


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 09-30-2003 01:21 PM

Re: 2nd Liberty - 3rd Jeep - 4th Chrysler
 
Yes Earle, but with very poor mileage.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Earle Horton wrote:
>
> But Bill, isn't a Liberty a type of mini-van?
>
> Earle


Google Poster 10-01-2003 10:23 AM

Re: 2nd Liberty - 3rd Jeep - 4th Chrysler
 
L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:<3F79B65D.9A73B547@cox.net>...
> So in your multiple personalities, one thinks fuel economy, and the
> other doesn't, I understand, now.


Why is it that recently usenet has been invested with arrogance,
stupidity and rudeness?

*plonk*

Google Poster 10-01-2003 10:23 AM

Re: 2nd Liberty - 3rd Jeep - 4th Chrysler
 
L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:<3F79B65D.9A73B547@cox.net>...
> So in your multiple personalities, one thinks fuel economy, and the
> other doesn't, I understand, now.


Why is it that recently usenet has been invested with arrogance,
stupidity and rudeness?

*plonk*

TJim 10-01-2003 10:52 AM

Re: 2nd Liberty - 3rd Jeep - 4th Chrysler
 
Hmmm... I'm seeing a trend here...

--
Jim
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98


"Google Poster" <googleposter@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:d077a7d9.0310010623.221128fa@posting.google.c om...
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote in message

news:<3F79B65D.9A73B547@cox.net>...
> > So in your multiple personalities, one thinks fuel economy, and the
> > other doesn't, I understand, now.

>
> Why is it that recently usenet has been invested with arrogance,
> stupidity and rudeness?
>
> *plonk*




TJim 10-01-2003 10:52 AM

Re: 2nd Liberty - 3rd Jeep - 4th Chrysler
 
Hmmm... I'm seeing a trend here...

--
Jim
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98


"Google Poster" <googleposter@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:d077a7d9.0310010623.221128fa@posting.google.c om...
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote in message

news:<3F79B65D.9A73B547@cox.net>...
> > So in your multiple personalities, one thinks fuel economy, and the
> > other doesn't, I understand, now.

>
> Why is it that recently usenet has been invested with arrogance,
> stupidity and rudeness?
>
> *plonk*




Joe 10-01-2003 11:01 AM

Re: 2nd Liberty - 3rd Jeep - 4th Chrysler
 
"Why is it that recently usenet has been invested with arrogance, stupidity
and rudeness?"
Recently?

"TJim" <jim@ranlet.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:mcicnaNgNrLZd-eiU-KYiA@comcast.com...
> Hmmm... I'm seeing a trend here...
>
> --
> Jim
> 98 TJ SE
> 90 SJ GW
> http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98
>
>
> "Google Poster" <googleposter@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:d077a7d9.0310010623.221128fa@posting.google.c om...
> > L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote in message

> news:<3F79B65D.9A73B547@cox.net>...
> > > So in your multiple personalities, one thinks fuel economy, and the
> > > other doesn't, I understand, now.

> >
> > Why is it that recently usenet has been invested with arrogance,
> > stupidity and rudeness?
> >
> > *plonk*

>
>




Joe 10-01-2003 11:01 AM

Re: 2nd Liberty - 3rd Jeep - 4th Chrysler
 
"Why is it that recently usenet has been invested with arrogance, stupidity
and rudeness?"
Recently?

"TJim" <jim@ranlet.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:mcicnaNgNrLZd-eiU-KYiA@comcast.com...
> Hmmm... I'm seeing a trend here...
>
> --
> Jim
> 98 TJ SE
> 90 SJ GW
> http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98
>
>
> "Google Poster" <googleposter@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:d077a7d9.0310010623.221128fa@posting.google.c om...
> > L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote in message

> news:<3F79B65D.9A73B547@cox.net>...
> > > So in your multiple personalities, one thinks fuel economy, and the
> > > other doesn't, I understand, now.

> >
> > Why is it that recently usenet has been invested with arrogance,
> > stupidity and rudeness?
> >
> > *plonk*

>
>




L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 10-01-2003 12:48 PM

Re: 2nd Liberty - 3rd Jeep - 4th Chrysler
 
Of course I can't PLONK you, you haven't the balls to use a real
name nor address as Real Jeepers do.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Google Poster wrote:
>
> Why is it that recently usenet has been invested with arrogance,
> stupidity and rudeness?
>
> *plonk*


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 10-01-2003 12:48 PM

Re: 2nd Liberty - 3rd Jeep - 4th Chrysler
 
Of course I can't PLONK you, you haven't the balls to use a real
name nor address as Real Jeepers do.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Google Poster wrote:
>
> Why is it that recently usenet has been invested with arrogance,
> stupidity and rudeness?
>
> *plonk*


John Welch 10-02-2003 12:50 AM

Re: 2nd Liberty - 3rd Jeep - 4th Chrysler
 
googleposter@yahoo.com (Google Poster) wrote in message news:<d077a7d9.0309280512.440c52f4@posting.google. com>...
> 6 years...
> 1 Wrangler 4.0L SE
> baby forced sale
> Dodge Ram for me
> '02 Jeep Liberty for her
> Just sold my Ram for a diesel - fuel prices forced sale. 70 miles a
> day!
> Collison in the Liberty this last week. A car lost control, crossed
> the center median and hit the liberty head on. Wife, Child + other 5
> year old all fine.
> The liberty is *not*.....
> I am amazed and very thankful that no one was hurt.
> Yesterday - signed on a '03 Liberty as a replacement.
>
> So...Liberty is not a real Jeep? Who cares......
>
> The most important thing for me is keeping my family safe.
> The liberty proved that it can - I do not think a Wrangler would fair
> well.

Wranglers do fine in wrecks. Please see http://lnc.grwelch.com/jeep
Sixteen year old driver and 12 year old passenger, both O.K. We
looked up crash ratings before adding Wrangler to the list of what to
shop for. No regrets.

p.s. Wrangler will be back on the road this weekend.

John Welch 10-02-2003 12:50 AM

Re: 2nd Liberty - 3rd Jeep - 4th Chrysler
 
googleposter@yahoo.com (Google Poster) wrote in message news:<d077a7d9.0309280512.440c52f4@posting.google. com>...
> 6 years...
> 1 Wrangler 4.0L SE
> baby forced sale
> Dodge Ram for me
> '02 Jeep Liberty for her
> Just sold my Ram for a diesel - fuel prices forced sale. 70 miles a
> day!
> Collison in the Liberty this last week. A car lost control, crossed
> the center median and hit the liberty head on. Wife, Child + other 5
> year old all fine.
> The liberty is *not*.....
> I am amazed and very thankful that no one was hurt.
> Yesterday - signed on a '03 Liberty as a replacement.
>
> So...Liberty is not a real Jeep? Who cares......
>
> The most important thing for me is keeping my family safe.
> The liberty proved that it can - I do not think a Wrangler would fair
> well.

Wranglers do fine in wrecks. Please see http://lnc.grwelch.com/jeep
Sixteen year old driver and 12 year old passenger, both O.K. We
looked up crash ratings before adding Wrangler to the list of what to
shop for. No regrets.

p.s. Wrangler will be back on the road this weekend.

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 10-02-2003 01:22 AM

Re: 2nd Liberty - 3rd Jeep - 4th Chrysler
 
What did they find that completely missed the front bumper?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

John Welch wrote:
>
> Wranglers do fine in wrecks. Please see http://lnc.grwelch.com/jeep
> Sixteen year old driver and 12 year old passenger, both O.K. We
> looked up crash ratings before adding Wrangler to the list of what to
> shop for. No regrets.
>
> p.s. Wrangler will be back on the road this weekend.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 10-02-2003 01:22 AM

Re: 2nd Liberty - 3rd Jeep - 4th Chrysler
 
What did they find that completely missed the front bumper?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

John Welch wrote:
>
> Wranglers do fine in wrecks. Please see http://lnc.grwelch.com/jeep
> Sixteen year old driver and 12 year old passenger, both O.K. We
> looked up crash ratings before adding Wrangler to the list of what to
> shop for. No regrets.
>
> p.s. Wrangler will be back on the road this weekend.


Dave Milne 10-02-2003 03:36 AM

Re: 2nd Liberty - 3rd Jeep - 4th Chrysler
 
I was wondering that too !

Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:3F7BB61F.C16743D8@cox.net...
: What did they find that completely missed the front bumper?
: God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
: mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
:
: John Welch wrote:
: >
: > Wranglers do fine in wrecks. Please see http://lnc.grwelch.com/jeep
: > Sixteen year old driver and 12 year old passenger, both O.K. We
: > looked up crash ratings before adding Wrangler to the list of what to
: > shop for. No regrets.
: >
: > p.s. Wrangler will be back on the road this weekend.



Dave Milne 10-02-2003 03:36 AM

Re: 2nd Liberty - 3rd Jeep - 4th Chrysler
 
I was wondering that too !

Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:3F7BB61F.C16743D8@cox.net...
: What did they find that completely missed the front bumper?
: God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
: mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
:
: John Welch wrote:
: >
: > Wranglers do fine in wrecks. Please see http://lnc.grwelch.com/jeep
: > Sixteen year old driver and 12 year old passenger, both O.K. We
: > looked up crash ratings before adding Wrangler to the list of what to
: > shop for. No regrets.
: >
: > p.s. Wrangler will be back on the road this weekend.



John Welch 10-02-2003 07:15 AM

Re: 2nd Liberty - 3rd Jeep - 4th Chrysler
 
L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:<3F7BB61F.C16743D8@cox.net>...
> What did they find that completely missed the front bumper?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O

Daughter rear-ended a full sized pickup at a stop light during a frog
strangling downpour. Driverside motor mount was snapped, but after
tearing down the front end and getting stuff out of the way the motor
did run. Lots of repair work and much $$$ to a body shop.
>
> John Welch wrote:
> >
> > Wranglers do fine in wrecks. Please see http://lnc.grwelch.com/jeep
> > Sixteen year old driver and 12 year old passenger, both O.K. We
> > looked up crash ratings before adding Wrangler to the list of what to
> > shop for. No regrets.
> >
> > p.s. Wrangler will be back on the road this weekend.


John Welch 10-02-2003 07:15 AM

Re: 2nd Liberty - 3rd Jeep - 4th Chrysler
 
L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:<3F7BB61F.C16743D8@cox.net>...
> What did they find that completely missed the front bumper?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O

Daughter rear-ended a full sized pickup at a stop light during a frog
strangling downpour. Driverside motor mount was snapped, but after
tearing down the front end and getting stuff out of the way the motor
did run. Lots of repair work and much $$$ to a body shop.
>
> John Welch wrote:
> >
> > Wranglers do fine in wrecks. Please see http://lnc.grwelch.com/jeep
> > Sixteen year old driver and 12 year old passenger, both O.K. We
> > looked up crash ratings before adding Wrangler to the list of what to
> > shop for. No regrets.
> >
> > p.s. Wrangler will be back on the road this weekend.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 10-02-2003 12:59 PM

Re: 2nd Liberty - 3rd Jeep - 4th Chrysler
 
Must have happened in California, we haven't learned to adjust our
speed for weather conditions, but then it never rains.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 10-02-2003 12:59 PM

Re: 2nd Liberty - 3rd Jeep - 4th Chrysler
 
Must have happened in California, we haven't learned to adjust our
speed for weather conditions, but then it never rains.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jeeters 10-04-2003 07:48 AM

Re: 2nd Liberty - 3rd Jeep - 4th Chrysler
 
> As I was buying the '03 I asked the owner of the dealership about
Scramblers
> and new things coming out. He told me as far as he knew the only change

to
> the line for the next few years is the addition of a third seat option to
> the GC.


Actually, the GC line is being fully redesigned (codenamed "WK"). They'll
offer both the current size (more or less) plus an extended-length version
with the third row option.

Also... Jeep Compass in '05. That's not definite but it is *expected* to
happen. Pics of the concept are all over the web. A rally-like vehicle.

There's also rumours about a Jeep "Commander" being in development... a
largish three row vehicle to compete with the likes of the H2. To debut in
around '05 or '06.

Wranger is supposed to be redesigned in '06.

And, I wish I could find the link, but I read somewhere about two weeks ago
that they'll likely be increasing the size of the Liberty when it's
redesigned in a couple more years. It's supposed to grow to nearly the size
of the (current) GC. Not sure if I believe that one.





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