philthy

unless the canister is cracked it should be covered under the feds emissions
warranty

amej@ix.netcom.com wrote:

> What is going on with Chrysler selling Jeeps?
>
> I own a 2004 4wd Jeep Grand Cherokee, Limited Edition.
>
> Last night my engine warning light came on (47,056 mi.). I took the Jeep
> into my dealer, Don-A-Vee, Placentia, CA
> to have it repaired. The problem was a faulty Evaporative Pump and the
> repairs are covered by California Emissions
> Warranty. However, the charcoal canister is not and will cost $316 to
> replace.
>
> I was warned that the reason for the failure and need to replace the
> canister was caused by mud collecting in the
> wheel well area. This is where Jeep placed the units. Pray tell, why design
> a vehicle for off-road use and place
> a critical item in the way? BTW, my "off-road" driving is in the High Desert
> of California, on SB Co. roads. No
> boon *******, or such, just driving to and from my home.
>
> I have found this series of Jeep to be a high maintenance item, from routine
> service to parts. I warn anyone
> wanting a JGC, to check out the running costs vs. other manufacturers. I
> just bought my wife a 2005 4wd Hyundai
> Tucson and maintenance costs are extremely lower.
>
> ----.

philthy

unless the canister is cracked it should be covered under the feds emissions
warranty

amej@ix.netcom.com wrote:

> What is going on with Chrysler selling Jeeps?
>
> I own a 2004 4wd Jeep Grand Cherokee, Limited Edition.
>
> Last night my engine warning light came on (47,056 mi.). I took the Jeep
> into my dealer, Don-A-Vee, Placentia, CA
> to have it repaired. The problem was a faulty Evaporative Pump and the
> repairs are covered by California Emissions
> Warranty. However, the charcoal canister is not and will cost $316 to
> replace.
>
> I was warned that the reason for the failure and need to replace the
> canister was caused by mud collecting in the
> wheel well area. This is where Jeep placed the units. Pray tell, why design
> a vehicle for off-road use and place
> a critical item in the way? BTW, my "off-road" driving is in the High Desert
> of California, on SB Co. roads. No
> boon *******, or such, just driving to and from my home.
>
> I have found this series of Jeep to be a high maintenance item, from routine
> service to parts. I warn anyone
> wanting a JGC, to check out the running costs vs. other manufacturers. I
> just bought my wife a 2005 4wd Hyundai
> Tucson and maintenance costs are extremely lower.
>
> ----.

philthy

unless the canister is cracked it should be covered under the feds emissions
warranty

amej@ix.netcom.com wrote:

> What is going on with Chrysler selling Jeeps?
>
> I own a 2004 4wd Jeep Grand Cherokee, Limited Edition.
>
> Last night my engine warning light came on (47,056 mi.). I took the Jeep
> into my dealer, Don-A-Vee, Placentia, CA
> to have it repaired. The problem was a faulty Evaporative Pump and the
> repairs are covered by California Emissions
> Warranty. However, the charcoal canister is not and will cost $316 to
> replace.
>
> I was warned that the reason for the failure and need to replace the
> canister was caused by mud collecting in the
> wheel well area. This is where Jeep placed the units. Pray tell, why design
> a vehicle for off-road use and place
> a critical item in the way? BTW, my "off-road" driving is in the High Desert
> of California, on SB Co. roads. No
> boon *******, or such, just driving to and from my home.
>
> I have found this series of Jeep to be a high maintenance item, from routine
> service to parts. I warn anyone
> wanting a JGC, to check out the running costs vs. other manufacturers. I
> just bought my wife a 2005 4wd Hyundai
> Tucson and maintenance costs are extremely lower.
>
> ----.

billy ray

I have the 3 pages from the WJ manual. After looking at them I am wondering
just how he managed to cause this damage as it seems well protected.



"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:43D16587.AC077090@sympatico.ca...
> If it is stuffed under the rear wheel well, they must have some type of
> cleanable filter on them, nothing else would make much sense. Even just
> hosing the sucker down and it should be ok to go....
>
> The one they put on the CJ's and YJ's was at the bottom of the freakin
> front wheel well and plugged up with mud easy. The second and
> subsequent filters aren't hard to change...
>
> In the OP case, the fresh air intake is just blocked by the sounds of
> it, the charcoal is still fine likely.
>
> Mike
>
> billy ray wrote:
>>
>> I would try another dealership for warranty coverage on this emissions
>> part.... assuming you are still within the warranty period.
>>
>> <amej@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
>> news:O1dAf.167520$Es3.29642@fe03.news.easynews.com ...
>> > On 20-Jan-2006, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> >
>> >> I do not know how bad they butchered the GC one, but for $316.00 I
>> >> sure
>> >> as heck would be pulling it off and washing the mud off the filter and
>> >> be doing my damnedest to get the old one out.
>> >
>> > I agree with you. That is exactly what I told the Service Rep at the
>> > dealer.
>> >
>> > I am still confused about the warranty: Bumper-to-bumper. Does this
>> > apply
>> > to the 2004 JGC? I know my partner had a problem with his Wrangler when
>> > he had to have the bolts replaced on his engine plate.
>> >
>> > Thanks for all of your comments. It still looks like a dark world....
>> >
>> > ----.

billy ray

I have the 3 pages from the WJ manual. After looking at them I am wondering
just how he managed to cause this damage as it seems well protected.



"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:43D16587.AC077090@sympatico.ca...
> If it is stuffed under the rear wheel well, they must have some type of
> cleanable filter on them, nothing else would make much sense. Even just
> hosing the sucker down and it should be ok to go....
>
> The one they put on the CJ's and YJ's was at the bottom of the freakin
> front wheel well and plugged up with mud easy. The second and
> subsequent filters aren't hard to change...
>
> In the OP case, the fresh air intake is just blocked by the sounds of
> it, the charcoal is still fine likely.
>
> Mike
>
> billy ray wrote:
>>
>> I would try another dealership for warranty coverage on this emissions
>> part.... assuming you are still within the warranty period.
>>
>> <amej@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
>> news:O1dAf.167520$Es3.29642@fe03.news.easynews.com ...
>> > On 20-Jan-2006, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> >
>> >> I do not know how bad they butchered the GC one, but for $316.00 I
>> >> sure
>> >> as heck would be pulling it off and washing the mud off the filter and
>> >> be doing my damnedest to get the old one out.
>> >
>> > I agree with you. That is exactly what I told the Service Rep at the
>> > dealer.
>> >
>> > I am still confused about the warranty: Bumper-to-bumper. Does this
>> > apply
>> > to the 2004 JGC? I know my partner had a problem with his Wrangler when
>> > he had to have the bolts replaced on his engine plate.
>> >
>> > Thanks for all of your comments. It still looks like a dark world....
>> >
>> > ----.

billy ray

I have the 3 pages from the WJ manual. After looking at them I am wondering
just how he managed to cause this damage as it seems well protected.



"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:43D16587.AC077090@sympatico.ca...
> If it is stuffed under the rear wheel well, they must have some type of
> cleanable filter on them, nothing else would make much sense. Even just
> hosing the sucker down and it should be ok to go....
>
> The one they put on the CJ's and YJ's was at the bottom of the freakin
> front wheel well and plugged up with mud easy. The second and
> subsequent filters aren't hard to change...
>
> In the OP case, the fresh air intake is just blocked by the sounds of
> it, the charcoal is still fine likely.
>
> Mike
>
> billy ray wrote:
>>
>> I would try another dealership for warranty coverage on this emissions
>> part.... assuming you are still within the warranty period.
>>
>> <amej@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
>> news:O1dAf.167520$Es3.29642@fe03.news.easynews.com ...
>> > On 20-Jan-2006, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> >
>> >> I do not know how bad they butchered the GC one, but for $316.00 I
>> >> sure
>> >> as heck would be pulling it off and washing the mud off the filter and
>> >> be doing my damnedest to get the old one out.
>> >
>> > I agree with you. That is exactly what I told the Service Rep at the
>> > dealer.
>> >
>> > I am still confused about the warranty: Bumper-to-bumper. Does this
>> > apply
>> > to the 2004 JGC? I know my partner had a problem with his Wrangler when
>> > he had to have the bolts replaced on his engine plate.
>> >
>> > Thanks for all of your comments. It still looks like a dark world....
>> >
>> > ----.

amej@ix.netcom.com

Mud, my lad!

My 2004 GC has the evap pump and canister mounted behind the rear wheel
well under the gas filler. There is a bracket holding the pump and canister,

but is open (several inches) to the open space of the wheel well. The mud
flap (I installed) and the area is covered with mud. This was caused by the
county road crew watering down the local dirt road while they were grading
it. However, I expect mud, snow and other debris to accumulate in the
area.

Do you want pictures?

----.

amej@ix.netcom.com

Mud, my lad!

My 2004 GC has the evap pump and canister mounted behind the rear wheel
well under the gas filler. There is a bracket holding the pump and canister,

but is open (several inches) to the open space of the wheel well. The mud
flap (I installed) and the area is covered with mud. This was caused by the
county road crew watering down the local dirt road while they were grading
it. However, I expect mud, snow and other debris to accumulate in the
area.

Do you want pictures?

----.

amej@ix.netcom.com

Mud, my lad!

My 2004 GC has the evap pump and canister mounted behind the rear wheel
well under the gas filler. There is a bracket holding the pump and canister,

but is open (several inches) to the open space of the wheel well. The mud
flap (I installed) and the area is covered with mud. This was caused by the
county road crew watering down the local dirt road while they were grading
it. However, I expect mud, snow and other debris to accumulate in the
area.

Do you want pictures?

----.

amej@ix.netcom.com

Tell it to this dealer!!