2004 Grand Cherokee Question Part2
01-01-2004, 02:24 PM
#31
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Re: 2004 Grand Cherokee Question Part2
"L0nD0t.$t0we11" <"L0nD0t.$t0we11"@ComcastDot.Net> wrote in message
news:8d_Ib.92811$VB2.205962@attbi_s51...
> Roughly 1/1/04 09:25, Greg's monkeys randomly typed:
>
> > Hi ----,
> >
> > Thanks for your reply,
> > I "think" when you get the 4.7 and the 5speed automatic you get the
3.73
> > dana 44.
> > but I'll have to check.
>
> Granted this may only be the jeep website, but it looks like with
> the 5 speed auto and the 4.7, you get the 3.55 rear even with the
> trailer package.
Yes it could be either way, I thought I read somewhere that the 4.7 came
with the 3.73 axle.
but I could be wrong.
On the jeep web site, if you look under Grand Cherokee Special Edition,
check, the trailer tow
group, it lists the cost as $360 w/ 3.73 axle.
But if you choose the 4.7 engine first, the price of the tow group drops to
$255 and there's
no mention of the 3.73 axle.
So whether this means the 4.7 comes with the 3.73 axle
or the 4.7 towing package uses the 3.55 axle I'm not sure.
---Greg---
01-01-2004, 02:49 PM
#32
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Re: 2004 Grand Cherokee Question Part2
Hi Greg,
This will give you an idea, of the possible differences in wiring:
http://www.accessconnect.com/trailerwiring.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Greg wrote:
>
> Thanks Doug,
>
> The tow harnesses you installed, where they from Jeep, or someone else?
>
> Thanks for the reminder on sharp plastic, I think I ran in to that myself a
> couple
> of times.Who'd thought plastic could be so sharp.and I'm sure I'll remember
> this
> post just after I cut myself. :-)
> ---Greg---
This will give you an idea, of the possible differences in wiring:
http://www.accessconnect.com/trailerwiring.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Greg wrote:
>
> Thanks Doug,
>
> The tow harnesses you installed, where they from Jeep, or someone else?
>
> Thanks for the reminder on sharp plastic, I think I ran in to that myself a
> couple
> of times.Who'd thought plastic could be so sharp.and I'm sure I'll remember
> this
> post just after I cut myself. :-)
> ---Greg---
01-01-2004, 02:49 PM
#33
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Posts: n/a
Re: 2004 Grand Cherokee Question Part2
Hi Greg,
This will give you an idea, of the possible differences in wiring:
http://www.accessconnect.com/trailerwiring.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Greg wrote:
>
> Thanks Doug,
>
> The tow harnesses you installed, where they from Jeep, or someone else?
>
> Thanks for the reminder on sharp plastic, I think I ran in to that myself a
> couple
> of times.Who'd thought plastic could be so sharp.and I'm sure I'll remember
> this
> post just after I cut myself. :-)
> ---Greg---
This will give you an idea, of the possible differences in wiring:
http://www.accessconnect.com/trailerwiring.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Greg wrote:
>
> Thanks Doug,
>
> The tow harnesses you installed, where they from Jeep, or someone else?
>
> Thanks for the reminder on sharp plastic, I think I ran in to that myself a
> couple
> of times.Who'd thought plastic could be so sharp.and I'm sure I'll remember
> this
> post just after I cut myself. :-)
> ---Greg---
01-01-2004, 02:49 PM
#34
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Posts: n/a
Re: 2004 Grand Cherokee Question Part2
Hi Greg,
This will give you an idea, of the possible differences in wiring:
http://www.accessconnect.com/trailerwiring.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Greg wrote:
>
> Thanks Doug,
>
> The tow harnesses you installed, where they from Jeep, or someone else?
>
> Thanks for the reminder on sharp plastic, I think I ran in to that myself a
> couple
> of times.Who'd thought plastic could be so sharp.and I'm sure I'll remember
> this
> post just after I cut myself. :-)
> ---Greg---
This will give you an idea, of the possible differences in wiring:
http://www.accessconnect.com/trailerwiring.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Greg wrote:
>
> Thanks Doug,
>
> The tow harnesses you installed, where they from Jeep, or someone else?
>
> Thanks for the reminder on sharp plastic, I think I ran in to that myself a
> couple
> of times.Who'd thought plastic could be so sharp.and I'm sure I'll remember
> this
> post just after I cut myself. :-)
> ---Greg---
01-01-2004, 03:05 PM
#35
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Re: 2004 Grand Cherokee Question Part2
Hi Greg,
You will be able to find out exactly what you have if you request a
build order from Customer Assistance - United States, EMail:
http://www.jeep.com/universal/J/inde...r=wccs&prefix=
I ran a '02 Cherokee trailer package and got:
From: customerassist <customerassist@daimlerchrysler.com> 11/18/03 7:01
AM
Subject: Re: DaimlerChrysler Customer Assistance (KMM574671V67247L0KM)
To: Llewellyn ------ III <----------@***.net>
Dear Llewellyn:
Thank you for your email to DaimlerChrysler regarding your 2002 Jeep
Grand Cherokee.
According to our records, your vehicle was equipped from the factory
with the following:
Seats - Cloth Low-Back Bucket
Luxury Group
Trailer Tow Group IV
Monotone Paint
4.7L Eng (EVA)/5Spd A/T 5-45Rfe(DGQ)
Alternator - 136 Amp
Battery - 625 Amp Maintenance Free
Brakes - Anti-Lock 4-Wheel Disc
Seats - Low Back Bucket
Door Trim Panel - Highline
Seat - Rear 60/40 Folding
Air Bags - Side, Supplemental
Child Seat Anchor System-LATCH Ready
Air Bags-Front,Next Gen,Multistage**
Air Bag-Side Window Curtain,Frt & Rr
Carpet - Floor
Carpet - Cargo Compartment
Cargo Tie Down Loops
Floor Mats - Front & Rear
Cargo Trim Panel w/Storage Net
Scuff Pads - Door Sill
Cover - Cargo Compartment
Assist Handles - Passenger
Console - Mini Overhead
Console - Full Length Floor
Transmission - All 5-Speed Automatic
Transmission-5-Spd Automatic 5-45RFE
Torque Converter - Lock-Up
Selec-Trac Full Time 4WD System
Axle - Front, Dana 30/186MM
Axle Ratio - 3.73
Axle - Rear, Dana 44/226MM
Engine- 4.7L V8 MPI
Windshield Glass - Tinted
Glass - Front Door Tinted
Glass - Deep Tint Sunscreen
Glass - Flipper Liftgate
Defroster - Rear Window
Sun Visors - Illum Vanity Mirrors
Mirror - Rear View, Auto Dim
Mirrors - Power, Fold-Away
Keyless Entry - Remote
Sentry Key Theft Deterrent System
Air Conditioning
Insulation - Hood
Insulation Group - Deluxe
Route 24 - UP, Rolla, CO
Instrument Cluster w/Tach
Speedometer - 120 MPH Primary
Windshield Wipers - Var Intermittent
Wiper/Washer - Rear Window
Horns - Electric, Dual Note
Glove Box - Locking
Power Outlet - Auxiliary 12V
Power Accessory Delay
Locks - Power
Windows - Power, Driver One-Touch
Seats -Power Front, Driver/Passenger
STRIPE/BADGE/MOLDING/COLOR
STRIPE/BADGE/MOLDING/COLOR
Illuminated Entry
Warning Chime
Vehicle Information Center
Lamps - Courtesy
Lamp - Glove Box
Lamp - Ash Tray
Lamps - Rear Courtesy/Reading
Lamp - Cargo Compartment
Traveler/Mini Trip Computer
Headlamps - Halogen
Headlamps - Automatic
Lamp - Center Hi-Mount Stop
Security Alarm
Bracket - Front License Plate
Grille - Bright
Windshield Moldings - Black
Badge - Grand Cherokee, Bright
Badge - Jeep, Bright
Badge - V-8, Liftgate, Bright
Roof Rack
Badge - 4 X 4
Emissions - U.S. 50 State
Emissions - High Altitude Tracking
Low Emission Vehicle (LEV)
Fuel Tank - 20.5 Gallon
Cooler - Power Steering
Speed Control
Engine Cooling - Hydraulic
Patriot Blue Pearl Coat
Patriot Blue Pearl Coat
All Radio Equipped Vehicles
Radio-AM/FM Cass/CD/Equal/Chgr Ctrl
Speaker System - Infinity
Antenna - Fixed
Audio Ctrls-Steering Wheel Mounted
Steering - Power Rack and Pinion
Steering Wheel - Leather Wrapped
Suspension - Normal Duty
Steering Column - Tilt
Spare Tire - Inside Mount
Spare Tire- Full Size, Matching Whl
Tires - P245/70R16 OWL All Terrain
Goodyear Brand Tires
Wheels - 16 x 7.0 Lux Alum, Silver
Wheels - All Aluminum
Pedals - Power Adjustable
Hitch - Class IV Receiver
Wiring Harness - 7 Pin
Adaptor - 7 to 4 Pin, Wiring
Garage Door Opener - Universal
Protective Coating and Remover
Build To U S Market Specifications
Manuf Statement of Origin
7 Additional Gallons Of Gas
Spring - Left Front
Spring - Left Rear
Spring - Right Front
Spring - Right Rear
GVW/Payload Rating
Four Wheel Drive (4WD)/(4X4)
Left Hand Drive (LHD)
If I can be of any further assistance please let me know.
Thank you again for writing.
Sincerely,
Diane
Senior Staff Representative
DaimlerChrysler Customer Assistance Center
--
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Greg wrote:
>
> OK First- Thanks to everyone who responded to my first question.
>
> I found a Grand Cherokee that has most of what I wanted,
>
> V8 special edition,
> Only major option it's missing is a trailer towing package.
> According to the dealer, the 4.7's come with all the necessary cooling for
> towing,
> and the tow package only adds the receiver, trailer plug wiring, and power
> steering cooling.
>
> Is this true that the tow package adds NO additional cooling capacity to the
> engine or transmission
> and I should be OK towing my 3000# boat? or maybe a 4000-5000 trailer in the
> future?
>
> Assuming I have to buy a trailer hitch, what's a good brand and model?
>
> Thanks again for your help.
>
> ---Greg---
You will be able to find out exactly what you have if you request a
build order from Customer Assistance - United States, EMail:
http://www.jeep.com/universal/J/inde...r=wccs&prefix=
I ran a '02 Cherokee trailer package and got:
From: customerassist <customerassist@daimlerchrysler.com> 11/18/03 7:01
AM
Subject: Re: DaimlerChrysler Customer Assistance (KMM574671V67247L0KM)
To: Llewellyn ------ III <----------@***.net>
Dear Llewellyn:
Thank you for your email to DaimlerChrysler regarding your 2002 Jeep
Grand Cherokee.
According to our records, your vehicle was equipped from the factory
with the following:
Seats - Cloth Low-Back Bucket
Luxury Group
Trailer Tow Group IV
Monotone Paint
4.7L Eng (EVA)/5Spd A/T 5-45Rfe(DGQ)
Alternator - 136 Amp
Battery - 625 Amp Maintenance Free
Brakes - Anti-Lock 4-Wheel Disc
Seats - Low Back Bucket
Door Trim Panel - Highline
Seat - Rear 60/40 Folding
Air Bags - Side, Supplemental
Child Seat Anchor System-LATCH Ready
Air Bags-Front,Next Gen,Multistage**
Air Bag-Side Window Curtain,Frt & Rr
Carpet - Floor
Carpet - Cargo Compartment
Cargo Tie Down Loops
Floor Mats - Front & Rear
Cargo Trim Panel w/Storage Net
Scuff Pads - Door Sill
Cover - Cargo Compartment
Assist Handles - Passenger
Console - Mini Overhead
Console - Full Length Floor
Transmission - All 5-Speed Automatic
Transmission-5-Spd Automatic 5-45RFE
Torque Converter - Lock-Up
Selec-Trac Full Time 4WD System
Axle - Front, Dana 30/186MM
Axle Ratio - 3.73
Axle - Rear, Dana 44/226MM
Engine- 4.7L V8 MPI
Windshield Glass - Tinted
Glass - Front Door Tinted
Glass - Deep Tint Sunscreen
Glass - Flipper Liftgate
Defroster - Rear Window
Sun Visors - Illum Vanity Mirrors
Mirror - Rear View, Auto Dim
Mirrors - Power, Fold-Away
Keyless Entry - Remote
Sentry Key Theft Deterrent System
Air Conditioning
Insulation - Hood
Insulation Group - Deluxe
Route 24 - UP, Rolla, CO
Instrument Cluster w/Tach
Speedometer - 120 MPH Primary
Windshield Wipers - Var Intermittent
Wiper/Washer - Rear Window
Horns - Electric, Dual Note
Glove Box - Locking
Power Outlet - Auxiliary 12V
Power Accessory Delay
Locks - Power
Windows - Power, Driver One-Touch
Seats -Power Front, Driver/Passenger
STRIPE/BADGE/MOLDING/COLOR
STRIPE/BADGE/MOLDING/COLOR
Illuminated Entry
Warning Chime
Vehicle Information Center
Lamps - Courtesy
Lamp - Glove Box
Lamp - Ash Tray
Lamps - Rear Courtesy/Reading
Lamp - Cargo Compartment
Traveler/Mini Trip Computer
Headlamps - Halogen
Headlamps - Automatic
Lamp - Center Hi-Mount Stop
Security Alarm
Bracket - Front License Plate
Grille - Bright
Windshield Moldings - Black
Badge - Grand Cherokee, Bright
Badge - Jeep, Bright
Badge - V-8, Liftgate, Bright
Roof Rack
Badge - 4 X 4
Emissions - U.S. 50 State
Emissions - High Altitude Tracking
Low Emission Vehicle (LEV)
Fuel Tank - 20.5 Gallon
Cooler - Power Steering
Speed Control
Engine Cooling - Hydraulic
Patriot Blue Pearl Coat
Patriot Blue Pearl Coat
All Radio Equipped Vehicles
Radio-AM/FM Cass/CD/Equal/Chgr Ctrl
Speaker System - Infinity
Antenna - Fixed
Audio Ctrls-Steering Wheel Mounted
Steering - Power Rack and Pinion
Steering Wheel - Leather Wrapped
Suspension - Normal Duty
Steering Column - Tilt
Spare Tire - Inside Mount
Spare Tire- Full Size, Matching Whl
Tires - P245/70R16 OWL All Terrain
Goodyear Brand Tires
Wheels - 16 x 7.0 Lux Alum, Silver
Wheels - All Aluminum
Pedals - Power Adjustable
Hitch - Class IV Receiver
Wiring Harness - 7 Pin
Adaptor - 7 to 4 Pin, Wiring
Garage Door Opener - Universal
Protective Coating and Remover
Build To U S Market Specifications
Manuf Statement of Origin
7 Additional Gallons Of Gas
Spring - Left Front
Spring - Left Rear
Spring - Right Front
Spring - Right Rear
GVW/Payload Rating
Four Wheel Drive (4WD)/(4X4)
Left Hand Drive (LHD)
If I can be of any further assistance please let me know.
Thank you again for writing.
Sincerely,
Diane
Senior Staff Representative
DaimlerChrysler Customer Assistance Center
--
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Greg wrote:
>
> OK First- Thanks to everyone who responded to my first question.
>
> I found a Grand Cherokee that has most of what I wanted,
>
> V8 special edition,
> Only major option it's missing is a trailer towing package.
> According to the dealer, the 4.7's come with all the necessary cooling for
> towing,
> and the tow package only adds the receiver, trailer plug wiring, and power
> steering cooling.
>
> Is this true that the tow package adds NO additional cooling capacity to the
> engine or transmission
> and I should be OK towing my 3000# boat? or maybe a 4000-5000 trailer in the
> future?
>
> Assuming I have to buy a trailer hitch, what's a good brand and model?
>
> Thanks again for your help.
>
> ---Greg---
01-01-2004, 03:05 PM
#36
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 2004 Grand Cherokee Question Part2
Hi Greg,
You will be able to find out exactly what you have if you request a
build order from Customer Assistance - United States, EMail:
http://www.jeep.com/universal/J/inde...r=wccs&prefix=
I ran a '02 Cherokee trailer package and got:
From: customerassist <customerassist@daimlerchrysler.com> 11/18/03 7:01
AM
Subject: Re: DaimlerChrysler Customer Assistance (KMM574671V67247L0KM)
To: Llewellyn ------ III <----------@***.net>
Dear Llewellyn:
Thank you for your email to DaimlerChrysler regarding your 2002 Jeep
Grand Cherokee.
According to our records, your vehicle was equipped from the factory
with the following:
Seats - Cloth Low-Back Bucket
Luxury Group
Trailer Tow Group IV
Monotone Paint
4.7L Eng (EVA)/5Spd A/T 5-45Rfe(DGQ)
Alternator - 136 Amp
Battery - 625 Amp Maintenance Free
Brakes - Anti-Lock 4-Wheel Disc
Seats - Low Back Bucket
Door Trim Panel - Highline
Seat - Rear 60/40 Folding
Air Bags - Side, Supplemental
Child Seat Anchor System-LATCH Ready
Air Bags-Front,Next Gen,Multistage**
Air Bag-Side Window Curtain,Frt & Rr
Carpet - Floor
Carpet - Cargo Compartment
Cargo Tie Down Loops
Floor Mats - Front & Rear
Cargo Trim Panel w/Storage Net
Scuff Pads - Door Sill
Cover - Cargo Compartment
Assist Handles - Passenger
Console - Mini Overhead
Console - Full Length Floor
Transmission - All 5-Speed Automatic
Transmission-5-Spd Automatic 5-45RFE
Torque Converter - Lock-Up
Selec-Trac Full Time 4WD System
Axle - Front, Dana 30/186MM
Axle Ratio - 3.73
Axle - Rear, Dana 44/226MM
Engine- 4.7L V8 MPI
Windshield Glass - Tinted
Glass - Front Door Tinted
Glass - Deep Tint Sunscreen
Glass - Flipper Liftgate
Defroster - Rear Window
Sun Visors - Illum Vanity Mirrors
Mirror - Rear View, Auto Dim
Mirrors - Power, Fold-Away
Keyless Entry - Remote
Sentry Key Theft Deterrent System
Air Conditioning
Insulation - Hood
Insulation Group - Deluxe
Route 24 - UP, Rolla, CO
Instrument Cluster w/Tach
Speedometer - 120 MPH Primary
Windshield Wipers - Var Intermittent
Wiper/Washer - Rear Window
Horns - Electric, Dual Note
Glove Box - Locking
Power Outlet - Auxiliary 12V
Power Accessory Delay
Locks - Power
Windows - Power, Driver One-Touch
Seats -Power Front, Driver/Passenger
STRIPE/BADGE/MOLDING/COLOR
STRIPE/BADGE/MOLDING/COLOR
Illuminated Entry
Warning Chime
Vehicle Information Center
Lamps - Courtesy
Lamp - Glove Box
Lamp - Ash Tray
Lamps - Rear Courtesy/Reading
Lamp - Cargo Compartment
Traveler/Mini Trip Computer
Headlamps - Halogen
Headlamps - Automatic
Lamp - Center Hi-Mount Stop
Security Alarm
Bracket - Front License Plate
Grille - Bright
Windshield Moldings - Black
Badge - Grand Cherokee, Bright
Badge - Jeep, Bright
Badge - V-8, Liftgate, Bright
Roof Rack
Badge - 4 X 4
Emissions - U.S. 50 State
Emissions - High Altitude Tracking
Low Emission Vehicle (LEV)
Fuel Tank - 20.5 Gallon
Cooler - Power Steering
Speed Control
Engine Cooling - Hydraulic
Patriot Blue Pearl Coat
Patriot Blue Pearl Coat
All Radio Equipped Vehicles
Radio-AM/FM Cass/CD/Equal/Chgr Ctrl
Speaker System - Infinity
Antenna - Fixed
Audio Ctrls-Steering Wheel Mounted
Steering - Power Rack and Pinion
Steering Wheel - Leather Wrapped
Suspension - Normal Duty
Steering Column - Tilt
Spare Tire - Inside Mount
Spare Tire- Full Size, Matching Whl
Tires - P245/70R16 OWL All Terrain
Goodyear Brand Tires
Wheels - 16 x 7.0 Lux Alum, Silver
Wheels - All Aluminum
Pedals - Power Adjustable
Hitch - Class IV Receiver
Wiring Harness - 7 Pin
Adaptor - 7 to 4 Pin, Wiring
Garage Door Opener - Universal
Protective Coating and Remover
Build To U S Market Specifications
Manuf Statement of Origin
7 Additional Gallons Of Gas
Spring - Left Front
Spring - Left Rear
Spring - Right Front
Spring - Right Rear
GVW/Payload Rating
Four Wheel Drive (4WD)/(4X4)
Left Hand Drive (LHD)
If I can be of any further assistance please let me know.
Thank you again for writing.
Sincerely,
Diane
Senior Staff Representative
DaimlerChrysler Customer Assistance Center
--
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Greg wrote:
>
> OK First- Thanks to everyone who responded to my first question.
>
> I found a Grand Cherokee that has most of what I wanted,
>
> V8 special edition,
> Only major option it's missing is a trailer towing package.
> According to the dealer, the 4.7's come with all the necessary cooling for
> towing,
> and the tow package only adds the receiver, trailer plug wiring, and power
> steering cooling.
>
> Is this true that the tow package adds NO additional cooling capacity to the
> engine or transmission
> and I should be OK towing my 3000# boat? or maybe a 4000-5000 trailer in the
> future?
>
> Assuming I have to buy a trailer hitch, what's a good brand and model?
>
> Thanks again for your help.
>
> ---Greg---
You will be able to find out exactly what you have if you request a
build order from Customer Assistance - United States, EMail:
http://www.jeep.com/universal/J/inde...r=wccs&prefix=
I ran a '02 Cherokee trailer package and got:
From: customerassist <customerassist@daimlerchrysler.com> 11/18/03 7:01
AM
Subject: Re: DaimlerChrysler Customer Assistance (KMM574671V67247L0KM)
To: Llewellyn ------ III <----------@***.net>
Dear Llewellyn:
Thank you for your email to DaimlerChrysler regarding your 2002 Jeep
Grand Cherokee.
According to our records, your vehicle was equipped from the factory
with the following:
Seats - Cloth Low-Back Bucket
Luxury Group
Trailer Tow Group IV
Monotone Paint
4.7L Eng (EVA)/5Spd A/T 5-45Rfe(DGQ)
Alternator - 136 Amp
Battery - 625 Amp Maintenance Free
Brakes - Anti-Lock 4-Wheel Disc
Seats - Low Back Bucket
Door Trim Panel - Highline
Seat - Rear 60/40 Folding
Air Bags - Side, Supplemental
Child Seat Anchor System-LATCH Ready
Air Bags-Front,Next Gen,Multistage**
Air Bag-Side Window Curtain,Frt & Rr
Carpet - Floor
Carpet - Cargo Compartment
Cargo Tie Down Loops
Floor Mats - Front & Rear
Cargo Trim Panel w/Storage Net
Scuff Pads - Door Sill
Cover - Cargo Compartment
Assist Handles - Passenger
Console - Mini Overhead
Console - Full Length Floor
Transmission - All 5-Speed Automatic
Transmission-5-Spd Automatic 5-45RFE
Torque Converter - Lock-Up
Selec-Trac Full Time 4WD System
Axle - Front, Dana 30/186MM
Axle Ratio - 3.73
Axle - Rear, Dana 44/226MM
Engine- 4.7L V8 MPI
Windshield Glass - Tinted
Glass - Front Door Tinted
Glass - Deep Tint Sunscreen
Glass - Flipper Liftgate
Defroster - Rear Window
Sun Visors - Illum Vanity Mirrors
Mirror - Rear View, Auto Dim
Mirrors - Power, Fold-Away
Keyless Entry - Remote
Sentry Key Theft Deterrent System
Air Conditioning
Insulation - Hood
Insulation Group - Deluxe
Route 24 - UP, Rolla, CO
Instrument Cluster w/Tach
Speedometer - 120 MPH Primary
Windshield Wipers - Var Intermittent
Wiper/Washer - Rear Window
Horns - Electric, Dual Note
Glove Box - Locking
Power Outlet - Auxiliary 12V
Power Accessory Delay
Locks - Power
Windows - Power, Driver One-Touch
Seats -Power Front, Driver/Passenger
STRIPE/BADGE/MOLDING/COLOR
STRIPE/BADGE/MOLDING/COLOR
Illuminated Entry
Warning Chime
Vehicle Information Center
Lamps - Courtesy
Lamp - Glove Box
Lamp - Ash Tray
Lamps - Rear Courtesy/Reading
Lamp - Cargo Compartment
Traveler/Mini Trip Computer
Headlamps - Halogen
Headlamps - Automatic
Lamp - Center Hi-Mount Stop
Security Alarm
Bracket - Front License Plate
Grille - Bright
Windshield Moldings - Black
Badge - Grand Cherokee, Bright
Badge - Jeep, Bright
Badge - V-8, Liftgate, Bright
Roof Rack
Badge - 4 X 4
Emissions - U.S. 50 State
Emissions - High Altitude Tracking
Low Emission Vehicle (LEV)
Fuel Tank - 20.5 Gallon
Cooler - Power Steering
Speed Control
Engine Cooling - Hydraulic
Patriot Blue Pearl Coat
Patriot Blue Pearl Coat
All Radio Equipped Vehicles
Radio-AM/FM Cass/CD/Equal/Chgr Ctrl
Speaker System - Infinity
Antenna - Fixed
Audio Ctrls-Steering Wheel Mounted
Steering - Power Rack and Pinion
Steering Wheel - Leather Wrapped
Suspension - Normal Duty
Steering Column - Tilt
Spare Tire - Inside Mount
Spare Tire- Full Size, Matching Whl
Tires - P245/70R16 OWL All Terrain
Goodyear Brand Tires
Wheels - 16 x 7.0 Lux Alum, Silver
Wheels - All Aluminum
Pedals - Power Adjustable
Hitch - Class IV Receiver
Wiring Harness - 7 Pin
Adaptor - 7 to 4 Pin, Wiring
Garage Door Opener - Universal
Protective Coating and Remover
Build To U S Market Specifications
Manuf Statement of Origin
7 Additional Gallons Of Gas
Spring - Left Front
Spring - Left Rear
Spring - Right Front
Spring - Right Rear
GVW/Payload Rating
Four Wheel Drive (4WD)/(4X4)
Left Hand Drive (LHD)
If I can be of any further assistance please let me know.
Thank you again for writing.
Sincerely,
Diane
Senior Staff Representative
DaimlerChrysler Customer Assistance Center
--
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Greg wrote:
>
> OK First- Thanks to everyone who responded to my first question.
>
> I found a Grand Cherokee that has most of what I wanted,
>
> V8 special edition,
> Only major option it's missing is a trailer towing package.
> According to the dealer, the 4.7's come with all the necessary cooling for
> towing,
> and the tow package only adds the receiver, trailer plug wiring, and power
> steering cooling.
>
> Is this true that the tow package adds NO additional cooling capacity to the
> engine or transmission
> and I should be OK towing my 3000# boat? or maybe a 4000-5000 trailer in the
> future?
>
> Assuming I have to buy a trailer hitch, what's a good brand and model?
>
> Thanks again for your help.
>
> ---Greg---
01-01-2004, 03:05 PM
#37
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Re: 2004 Grand Cherokee Question Part2
Hi Greg,
You will be able to find out exactly what you have if you request a
build order from Customer Assistance - United States, EMail:
http://www.jeep.com/universal/J/inde...r=wccs&prefix=
I ran a '02 Cherokee trailer package and got:
From: customerassist <customerassist@daimlerchrysler.com> 11/18/03 7:01
AM
Subject: Re: DaimlerChrysler Customer Assistance (KMM574671V67247L0KM)
To: Llewellyn ------ III <----------@***.net>
Dear Llewellyn:
Thank you for your email to DaimlerChrysler regarding your 2002 Jeep
Grand Cherokee.
According to our records, your vehicle was equipped from the factory
with the following:
Seats - Cloth Low-Back Bucket
Luxury Group
Trailer Tow Group IV
Monotone Paint
4.7L Eng (EVA)/5Spd A/T 5-45Rfe(DGQ)
Alternator - 136 Amp
Battery - 625 Amp Maintenance Free
Brakes - Anti-Lock 4-Wheel Disc
Seats - Low Back Bucket
Door Trim Panel - Highline
Seat - Rear 60/40 Folding
Air Bags - Side, Supplemental
Child Seat Anchor System-LATCH Ready
Air Bags-Front,Next Gen,Multistage**
Air Bag-Side Window Curtain,Frt & Rr
Carpet - Floor
Carpet - Cargo Compartment
Cargo Tie Down Loops
Floor Mats - Front & Rear
Cargo Trim Panel w/Storage Net
Scuff Pads - Door Sill
Cover - Cargo Compartment
Assist Handles - Passenger
Console - Mini Overhead
Console - Full Length Floor
Transmission - All 5-Speed Automatic
Transmission-5-Spd Automatic 5-45RFE
Torque Converter - Lock-Up
Selec-Trac Full Time 4WD System
Axle - Front, Dana 30/186MM
Axle Ratio - 3.73
Axle - Rear, Dana 44/226MM
Engine- 4.7L V8 MPI
Windshield Glass - Tinted
Glass - Front Door Tinted
Glass - Deep Tint Sunscreen
Glass - Flipper Liftgate
Defroster - Rear Window
Sun Visors - Illum Vanity Mirrors
Mirror - Rear View, Auto Dim
Mirrors - Power, Fold-Away
Keyless Entry - Remote
Sentry Key Theft Deterrent System
Air Conditioning
Insulation - Hood
Insulation Group - Deluxe
Route 24 - UP, Rolla, CO
Instrument Cluster w/Tach
Speedometer - 120 MPH Primary
Windshield Wipers - Var Intermittent
Wiper/Washer - Rear Window
Horns - Electric, Dual Note
Glove Box - Locking
Power Outlet - Auxiliary 12V
Power Accessory Delay
Locks - Power
Windows - Power, Driver One-Touch
Seats -Power Front, Driver/Passenger
STRIPE/BADGE/MOLDING/COLOR
STRIPE/BADGE/MOLDING/COLOR
Illuminated Entry
Warning Chime
Vehicle Information Center
Lamps - Courtesy
Lamp - Glove Box
Lamp - Ash Tray
Lamps - Rear Courtesy/Reading
Lamp - Cargo Compartment
Traveler/Mini Trip Computer
Headlamps - Halogen
Headlamps - Automatic
Lamp - Center Hi-Mount Stop
Security Alarm
Bracket - Front License Plate
Grille - Bright
Windshield Moldings - Black
Badge - Grand Cherokee, Bright
Badge - Jeep, Bright
Badge - V-8, Liftgate, Bright
Roof Rack
Badge - 4 X 4
Emissions - U.S. 50 State
Emissions - High Altitude Tracking
Low Emission Vehicle (LEV)
Fuel Tank - 20.5 Gallon
Cooler - Power Steering
Speed Control
Engine Cooling - Hydraulic
Patriot Blue Pearl Coat
Patriot Blue Pearl Coat
All Radio Equipped Vehicles
Radio-AM/FM Cass/CD/Equal/Chgr Ctrl
Speaker System - Infinity
Antenna - Fixed
Audio Ctrls-Steering Wheel Mounted
Steering - Power Rack and Pinion
Steering Wheel - Leather Wrapped
Suspension - Normal Duty
Steering Column - Tilt
Spare Tire - Inside Mount
Spare Tire- Full Size, Matching Whl
Tires - P245/70R16 OWL All Terrain
Goodyear Brand Tires
Wheels - 16 x 7.0 Lux Alum, Silver
Wheels - All Aluminum
Pedals - Power Adjustable
Hitch - Class IV Receiver
Wiring Harness - 7 Pin
Adaptor - 7 to 4 Pin, Wiring
Garage Door Opener - Universal
Protective Coating and Remover
Build To U S Market Specifications
Manuf Statement of Origin
7 Additional Gallons Of Gas
Spring - Left Front
Spring - Left Rear
Spring - Right Front
Spring - Right Rear
GVW/Payload Rating
Four Wheel Drive (4WD)/(4X4)
Left Hand Drive (LHD)
If I can be of any further assistance please let me know.
Thank you again for writing.
Sincerely,
Diane
Senior Staff Representative
DaimlerChrysler Customer Assistance Center
--
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Greg wrote:
>
> OK First- Thanks to everyone who responded to my first question.
>
> I found a Grand Cherokee that has most of what I wanted,
>
> V8 special edition,
> Only major option it's missing is a trailer towing package.
> According to the dealer, the 4.7's come with all the necessary cooling for
> towing,
> and the tow package only adds the receiver, trailer plug wiring, and power
> steering cooling.
>
> Is this true that the tow package adds NO additional cooling capacity to the
> engine or transmission
> and I should be OK towing my 3000# boat? or maybe a 4000-5000 trailer in the
> future?
>
> Assuming I have to buy a trailer hitch, what's a good brand and model?
>
> Thanks again for your help.
>
> ---Greg---
You will be able to find out exactly what you have if you request a
build order from Customer Assistance - United States, EMail:
http://www.jeep.com/universal/J/inde...r=wccs&prefix=
I ran a '02 Cherokee trailer package and got:
From: customerassist <customerassist@daimlerchrysler.com> 11/18/03 7:01
AM
Subject: Re: DaimlerChrysler Customer Assistance (KMM574671V67247L0KM)
To: Llewellyn ------ III <----------@***.net>
Dear Llewellyn:
Thank you for your email to DaimlerChrysler regarding your 2002 Jeep
Grand Cherokee.
According to our records, your vehicle was equipped from the factory
with the following:
Seats - Cloth Low-Back Bucket
Luxury Group
Trailer Tow Group IV
Monotone Paint
4.7L Eng (EVA)/5Spd A/T 5-45Rfe(DGQ)
Alternator - 136 Amp
Battery - 625 Amp Maintenance Free
Brakes - Anti-Lock 4-Wheel Disc
Seats - Low Back Bucket
Door Trim Panel - Highline
Seat - Rear 60/40 Folding
Air Bags - Side, Supplemental
Child Seat Anchor System-LATCH Ready
Air Bags-Front,Next Gen,Multistage**
Air Bag-Side Window Curtain,Frt & Rr
Carpet - Floor
Carpet - Cargo Compartment
Cargo Tie Down Loops
Floor Mats - Front & Rear
Cargo Trim Panel w/Storage Net
Scuff Pads - Door Sill
Cover - Cargo Compartment
Assist Handles - Passenger
Console - Mini Overhead
Console - Full Length Floor
Transmission - All 5-Speed Automatic
Transmission-5-Spd Automatic 5-45RFE
Torque Converter - Lock-Up
Selec-Trac Full Time 4WD System
Axle - Front, Dana 30/186MM
Axle Ratio - 3.73
Axle - Rear, Dana 44/226MM
Engine- 4.7L V8 MPI
Windshield Glass - Tinted
Glass - Front Door Tinted
Glass - Deep Tint Sunscreen
Glass - Flipper Liftgate
Defroster - Rear Window
Sun Visors - Illum Vanity Mirrors
Mirror - Rear View, Auto Dim
Mirrors - Power, Fold-Away
Keyless Entry - Remote
Sentry Key Theft Deterrent System
Air Conditioning
Insulation - Hood
Insulation Group - Deluxe
Route 24 - UP, Rolla, CO
Instrument Cluster w/Tach
Speedometer - 120 MPH Primary
Windshield Wipers - Var Intermittent
Wiper/Washer - Rear Window
Horns - Electric, Dual Note
Glove Box - Locking
Power Outlet - Auxiliary 12V
Power Accessory Delay
Locks - Power
Windows - Power, Driver One-Touch
Seats -Power Front, Driver/Passenger
STRIPE/BADGE/MOLDING/COLOR
STRIPE/BADGE/MOLDING/COLOR
Illuminated Entry
Warning Chime
Vehicle Information Center
Lamps - Courtesy
Lamp - Glove Box
Lamp - Ash Tray
Lamps - Rear Courtesy/Reading
Lamp - Cargo Compartment
Traveler/Mini Trip Computer
Headlamps - Halogen
Headlamps - Automatic
Lamp - Center Hi-Mount Stop
Security Alarm
Bracket - Front License Plate
Grille - Bright
Windshield Moldings - Black
Badge - Grand Cherokee, Bright
Badge - Jeep, Bright
Badge - V-8, Liftgate, Bright
Roof Rack
Badge - 4 X 4
Emissions - U.S. 50 State
Emissions - High Altitude Tracking
Low Emission Vehicle (LEV)
Fuel Tank - 20.5 Gallon
Cooler - Power Steering
Speed Control
Engine Cooling - Hydraulic
Patriot Blue Pearl Coat
Patriot Blue Pearl Coat
All Radio Equipped Vehicles
Radio-AM/FM Cass/CD/Equal/Chgr Ctrl
Speaker System - Infinity
Antenna - Fixed
Audio Ctrls-Steering Wheel Mounted
Steering - Power Rack and Pinion
Steering Wheel - Leather Wrapped
Suspension - Normal Duty
Steering Column - Tilt
Spare Tire - Inside Mount
Spare Tire- Full Size, Matching Whl
Tires - P245/70R16 OWL All Terrain
Goodyear Brand Tires
Wheels - 16 x 7.0 Lux Alum, Silver
Wheels - All Aluminum
Pedals - Power Adjustable
Hitch - Class IV Receiver
Wiring Harness - 7 Pin
Adaptor - 7 to 4 Pin, Wiring
Garage Door Opener - Universal
Protective Coating and Remover
Build To U S Market Specifications
Manuf Statement of Origin
7 Additional Gallons Of Gas
Spring - Left Front
Spring - Left Rear
Spring - Right Front
Spring - Right Rear
GVW/Payload Rating
Four Wheel Drive (4WD)/(4X4)
Left Hand Drive (LHD)
If I can be of any further assistance please let me know.
Thank you again for writing.
Sincerely,
Diane
Senior Staff Representative
DaimlerChrysler Customer Assistance Center
--
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Greg wrote:
>
> OK First- Thanks to everyone who responded to my first question.
>
> I found a Grand Cherokee that has most of what I wanted,
>
> V8 special edition,
> Only major option it's missing is a trailer towing package.
> According to the dealer, the 4.7's come with all the necessary cooling for
> towing,
> and the tow package only adds the receiver, trailer plug wiring, and power
> steering cooling.
>
> Is this true that the tow package adds NO additional cooling capacity to the
> engine or transmission
> and I should be OK towing my 3000# boat? or maybe a 4000-5000 trailer in the
> future?
>
> Assuming I have to buy a trailer hitch, what's a good brand and model?
>
> Thanks again for your help.
>
> ---Greg---
01-01-2004, 03:47 PM
#38
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Posts: n/a
Re: 2004 Grand Cherokee Question Part2
Roughly 1/1/04 11:10, Jerry Bransford's monkeys randomly typed:
> "L0nD0t.$t0we11" <"L0nD0t.$t0we11"@ComcastDot.Net> wrote in message
> news:8d_Ib.92811$VB2.205962@attbi_s51...
>> Roughly 1/1/04 09:25, Greg's monkeys randomly typed:
>>
>> > Hi ----,
>> >
>> > Thanks for your reply,
>> > I "think" when you get the 4.7 and the 5speed automatic you get the
> 3.73
>> > dana 44.
>> > but I'll have to check.
>>
>> Granted this may only be the jeep website, but it looks like with
>> the 5 speed auto and the 4.7, you get the 3.55 rear even with the
>> trailer package.
>
> I don't think Jeep has shipped a 3.55 since 1997. To the best of my
> knowledge, it comes with a 3.73. Both of my wife's JGCs came with a 3.73
> with their towing packages.
See if you can make the vehicle builder app at www.jeep.com
admit this. Select a GC 4x4 with the 4.7 and it appears to
set the 3.55 rear with the 5 speed auto. The 4.0 with 4speed
will admit to there being a 3.73, but the 4.7 and 5speed
are pretty stubborn.
--
Fan of the dumbest team in America.
> "L0nD0t.$t0we11" <"L0nD0t.$t0we11"@ComcastDot.Net> wrote in message
> news:8d_Ib.92811$VB2.205962@attbi_s51...
>> Roughly 1/1/04 09:25, Greg's monkeys randomly typed:
>>
>> > Hi ----,
>> >
>> > Thanks for your reply,
>> > I "think" when you get the 4.7 and the 5speed automatic you get the
> 3.73
>> > dana 44.
>> > but I'll have to check.
>>
>> Granted this may only be the jeep website, but it looks like with
>> the 5 speed auto and the 4.7, you get the 3.55 rear even with the
>> trailer package.
>
> I don't think Jeep has shipped a 3.55 since 1997. To the best of my
> knowledge, it comes with a 3.73. Both of my wife's JGCs came with a 3.73
> with their towing packages.
See if you can make the vehicle builder app at www.jeep.com
admit this. Select a GC 4x4 with the 4.7 and it appears to
set the 3.55 rear with the 5 speed auto. The 4.0 with 4speed
will admit to there being a 3.73, but the 4.7 and 5speed
are pretty stubborn.
--
Fan of the dumbest team in America.
01-01-2004, 03:47 PM
#39
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 2004 Grand Cherokee Question Part2
Roughly 1/1/04 11:10, Jerry Bransford's monkeys randomly typed:
> "L0nD0t.$t0we11" <"L0nD0t.$t0we11"@ComcastDot.Net> wrote in message
> news:8d_Ib.92811$VB2.205962@attbi_s51...
>> Roughly 1/1/04 09:25, Greg's monkeys randomly typed:
>>
>> > Hi ----,
>> >
>> > Thanks for your reply,
>> > I "think" when you get the 4.7 and the 5speed automatic you get the
> 3.73
>> > dana 44.
>> > but I'll have to check.
>>
>> Granted this may only be the jeep website, but it looks like with
>> the 5 speed auto and the 4.7, you get the 3.55 rear even with the
>> trailer package.
>
> I don't think Jeep has shipped a 3.55 since 1997. To the best of my
> knowledge, it comes with a 3.73. Both of my wife's JGCs came with a 3.73
> with their towing packages.
See if you can make the vehicle builder app at www.jeep.com
admit this. Select a GC 4x4 with the 4.7 and it appears to
set the 3.55 rear with the 5 speed auto. The 4.0 with 4speed
will admit to there being a 3.73, but the 4.7 and 5speed
are pretty stubborn.
--
Fan of the dumbest team in America.
> "L0nD0t.$t0we11" <"L0nD0t.$t0we11"@ComcastDot.Net> wrote in message
> news:8d_Ib.92811$VB2.205962@attbi_s51...
>> Roughly 1/1/04 09:25, Greg's monkeys randomly typed:
>>
>> > Hi ----,
>> >
>> > Thanks for your reply,
>> > I "think" when you get the 4.7 and the 5speed automatic you get the
> 3.73
>> > dana 44.
>> > but I'll have to check.
>>
>> Granted this may only be the jeep website, but it looks like with
>> the 5 speed auto and the 4.7, you get the 3.55 rear even with the
>> trailer package.
>
> I don't think Jeep has shipped a 3.55 since 1997. To the best of my
> knowledge, it comes with a 3.73. Both of my wife's JGCs came with a 3.73
> with their towing packages.
See if you can make the vehicle builder app at www.jeep.com
admit this. Select a GC 4x4 with the 4.7 and it appears to
set the 3.55 rear with the 5 speed auto. The 4.0 with 4speed
will admit to there being a 3.73, but the 4.7 and 5speed
are pretty stubborn.
--
Fan of the dumbest team in America.
01-01-2004, 03:47 PM
#40
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 2004 Grand Cherokee Question Part2
Roughly 1/1/04 11:10, Jerry Bransford's monkeys randomly typed:
> "L0nD0t.$t0we11" <"L0nD0t.$t0we11"@ComcastDot.Net> wrote in message
> news:8d_Ib.92811$VB2.205962@attbi_s51...
>> Roughly 1/1/04 09:25, Greg's monkeys randomly typed:
>>
>> > Hi ----,
>> >
>> > Thanks for your reply,
>> > I "think" when you get the 4.7 and the 5speed automatic you get the
> 3.73
>> > dana 44.
>> > but I'll have to check.
>>
>> Granted this may only be the jeep website, but it looks like with
>> the 5 speed auto and the 4.7, you get the 3.55 rear even with the
>> trailer package.
>
> I don't think Jeep has shipped a 3.55 since 1997. To the best of my
> knowledge, it comes with a 3.73. Both of my wife's JGCs came with a 3.73
> with their towing packages.
See if you can make the vehicle builder app at www.jeep.com
admit this. Select a GC 4x4 with the 4.7 and it appears to
set the 3.55 rear with the 5 speed auto. The 4.0 with 4speed
will admit to there being a 3.73, but the 4.7 and 5speed
are pretty stubborn.
--
Fan of the dumbest team in America.
> "L0nD0t.$t0we11" <"L0nD0t.$t0we11"@ComcastDot.Net> wrote in message
> news:8d_Ib.92811$VB2.205962@attbi_s51...
>> Roughly 1/1/04 09:25, Greg's monkeys randomly typed:
>>
>> > Hi ----,
>> >
>> > Thanks for your reply,
>> > I "think" when you get the 4.7 and the 5speed automatic you get the
> 3.73
>> > dana 44.
>> > but I'll have to check.
>>
>> Granted this may only be the jeep website, but it looks like with
>> the 5 speed auto and the 4.7, you get the 3.55 rear even with the
>> trailer package.
>
> I don't think Jeep has shipped a 3.55 since 1997. To the best of my
> knowledge, it comes with a 3.73. Both of my wife's JGCs came with a 3.73
> with their towing packages.
See if you can make the vehicle builder app at www.jeep.com
admit this. Select a GC 4x4 with the 4.7 and it appears to
set the 3.55 rear with the 5 speed auto. The 4.0 with 4speed
will admit to there being a 3.73, but the 4.7 and 5speed
are pretty stubborn.
--
Fan of the dumbest team in America.