Re: 2002 TJ-problem filling gas tank
The other thing there is a float ball in the tank fill neck at the bottom
where it enters the tank. When you fill the tank the ball rises up and the back pressure shuts down the nozzle and it is used incase of roll over the ball stops the gas from coming out the tank fill. It appears that you are only getting the fuel in by way of the vent. If there are no pinched hoses then your float ball is stuck due to the bouncing via shipping. If I was a betting man you probably had less than a half tank when shipped. The only fix for the ball is to remove the tank and the gas from the tank then tap the neck at the base to free it. Once freed you can rock the tank back and forth and listen if the ball moves freely. If not the tank needs to be replaced. Coasty "Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message news:43d1f8d8$0$3101$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m... > And take photos while you are doing it, just in case you find actual > damage. > You may in face be able to prove that the shipper did it. Did the alleged > mechanic you took it to, actually find anything, or did he just say you > need > a new tank, based on not being able to fill the existing one? > > Earle > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > news:43D1C7DA.2179A880@cox.net... >> Looks to me like you could remove the inner fender well and see if >> the vent hose is pinched: http://www.----------.com/temp/TJtank.jpg >> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O >> mailto:-------------------- >> >> redsoxalso wrote: >> > >> > Also, I've tried filling at about 10 different stations with the pump >> > nozzle insterted 1/2, 3/4, 1/4, all the way in, to the right, left, >> > upside down, standing on my head, etc. Same symptoms every time. > > |
Re: 2002 TJ-problem filling gas tank
The other thing there is a float ball in the tank fill neck at the bottom
where it enters the tank. When you fill the tank the ball rises up and the back pressure shuts down the nozzle and it is used incase of roll over the ball stops the gas from coming out the tank fill. It appears that you are only getting the fuel in by way of the vent. If there are no pinched hoses then your float ball is stuck due to the bouncing via shipping. If I was a betting man you probably had less than a half tank when shipped. The only fix for the ball is to remove the tank and the gas from the tank then tap the neck at the base to free it. Once freed you can rock the tank back and forth and listen if the ball moves freely. If not the tank needs to be replaced. Coasty "Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message news:43d1f8d8$0$3101$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m... > And take photos while you are doing it, just in case you find actual > damage. > You may in face be able to prove that the shipper did it. Did the alleged > mechanic you took it to, actually find anything, or did he just say you > need > a new tank, based on not being able to fill the existing one? > > Earle > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > news:43D1C7DA.2179A880@cox.net... >> Looks to me like you could remove the inner fender well and see if >> the vent hose is pinched: http://www.----------.com/temp/TJtank.jpg >> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O >> mailto:-------------------- >> >> redsoxalso wrote: >> > >> > Also, I've tried filling at about 10 different stations with the pump >> > nozzle insterted 1/2, 3/4, 1/4, all the way in, to the right, left, >> > upside down, standing on my head, etc. Same symptoms every time. > > |
Re: 2002 TJ-problem filling gas tank
The other thing there is a float ball in the tank fill neck at the bottom
where it enters the tank. When you fill the tank the ball rises up and the back pressure shuts down the nozzle and it is used incase of roll over the ball stops the gas from coming out the tank fill. It appears that you are only getting the fuel in by way of the vent. If there are no pinched hoses then your float ball is stuck due to the bouncing via shipping. If I was a betting man you probably had less than a half tank when shipped. The only fix for the ball is to remove the tank and the gas from the tank then tap the neck at the base to free it. Once freed you can rock the tank back and forth and listen if the ball moves freely. If not the tank needs to be replaced. Coasty "Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message news:43d1f8d8$0$3101$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m... > And take photos while you are doing it, just in case you find actual > damage. > You may in face be able to prove that the shipper did it. Did the alleged > mechanic you took it to, actually find anything, or did he just say you > need > a new tank, based on not being able to fill the existing one? > > Earle > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > news:43D1C7DA.2179A880@cox.net... >> Looks to me like you could remove the inner fender well and see if >> the vent hose is pinched: http://www.----------.com/temp/TJtank.jpg >> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O >> mailto:-------------------- >> >> redsoxalso wrote: >> > >> > Also, I've tried filling at about 10 different stations with the pump >> > nozzle insterted 1/2, 3/4, 1/4, all the way in, to the right, left, >> > upside down, standing on my head, etc. Same symptoms every time. > > |
Re: 2002 TJ-problem filling gas tank
Did you check to see if the drugs are hidden somewhere in the fuel
filling/venting system? Just kidding.. Kate "redsoxalso" <michaelacoe@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1137818999.481757.177830@f14g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com... : I've got a couple of problems; my gas tank and military claims office. : I can't fill my tank at anything less than 1/4 speed. If I try and : pump full speed, the pump shuts off or sometimes spits fuel back out of : the tank onto the ground. : : I took the Jeep to the dealer and they say the problem is the tank : isn't venting correctly. After reading posts here, I have to agree : with his assesment. BUT, he says the only way I can fix the problem is : to get a new tank at a parts/labor cost of $750 (guess everything : really does cost more in Hawaii). Does that sound correct? : : Also, I'm 'discussing' this with the Air Force claims office. I say : the problem was caused by the shipper when they transported my Jeep to : HI and they owe me repair costs. They say I can't prove that and it : 'just happened' so I must pay. Facts are Jeep was fine when I dropped : it off. I picked it up from the docks, drove it 1 mile and the tank : problem's plauged me ever since. Anyone ever seen this problem occur : spontaneously in a 3 year old Jeep with only 30K miles? And ideas if : it could have been caused during transit to Hawaii? : : Thanks in advance. : |
Re: 2002 TJ-problem filling gas tank
Did you check to see if the drugs are hidden somewhere in the fuel
filling/venting system? Just kidding.. Kate "redsoxalso" <michaelacoe@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1137818999.481757.177830@f14g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com... : I've got a couple of problems; my gas tank and military claims office. : I can't fill my tank at anything less than 1/4 speed. If I try and : pump full speed, the pump shuts off or sometimes spits fuel back out of : the tank onto the ground. : : I took the Jeep to the dealer and they say the problem is the tank : isn't venting correctly. After reading posts here, I have to agree : with his assesment. BUT, he says the only way I can fix the problem is : to get a new tank at a parts/labor cost of $750 (guess everything : really does cost more in Hawaii). Does that sound correct? : : Also, I'm 'discussing' this with the Air Force claims office. I say : the problem was caused by the shipper when they transported my Jeep to : HI and they owe me repair costs. They say I can't prove that and it : 'just happened' so I must pay. Facts are Jeep was fine when I dropped : it off. I picked it up from the docks, drove it 1 mile and the tank : problem's plauged me ever since. Anyone ever seen this problem occur : spontaneously in a 3 year old Jeep with only 30K miles? And ideas if : it could have been caused during transit to Hawaii? : : Thanks in advance. : |
Re: 2002 TJ-problem filling gas tank
Did you check to see if the drugs are hidden somewhere in the fuel
filling/venting system? Just kidding.. Kate "redsoxalso" <michaelacoe@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1137818999.481757.177830@f14g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com... : I've got a couple of problems; my gas tank and military claims office. : I can't fill my tank at anything less than 1/4 speed. If I try and : pump full speed, the pump shuts off or sometimes spits fuel back out of : the tank onto the ground. : : I took the Jeep to the dealer and they say the problem is the tank : isn't venting correctly. After reading posts here, I have to agree : with his assesment. BUT, he says the only way I can fix the problem is : to get a new tank at a parts/labor cost of $750 (guess everything : really does cost more in Hawaii). Does that sound correct? : : Also, I'm 'discussing' this with the Air Force claims office. I say : the problem was caused by the shipper when they transported my Jeep to : HI and they owe me repair costs. They say I can't prove that and it : 'just happened' so I must pay. Facts are Jeep was fine when I dropped : it off. I picked it up from the docks, drove it 1 mile and the tank : problem's plauged me ever since. Anyone ever seen this problem occur : spontaneously in a 3 year old Jeep with only 30K miles? And ideas if : it could have been caused during transit to Hawaii? : : Thanks in advance. : |
Re: 2002 TJ-problem filling gas tank
Does Hawaii have those collars onthe pump nozzles?
Sometimes they can cause a problem. If they do try pulling the sleeve back away from the opening in the filler neck to allow air to get in. I know it's awkward but that was pretty common in CA when they were on the pumps out there. Kate "redsoxalso" <michaelacoe@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1137820105.678864.19590@g47g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com... : Also, I've tried filling at about 10 different stations with the pump : nozzle insterted 1/2, 3/4, 1/4, all the way in, to the right, left, : upside down, standing on my head, etc. Same symptoms every time. : |
Re: 2002 TJ-problem filling gas tank
Does Hawaii have those collars onthe pump nozzles?
Sometimes they can cause a problem. If they do try pulling the sleeve back away from the opening in the filler neck to allow air to get in. I know it's awkward but that was pretty common in CA when they were on the pumps out there. Kate "redsoxalso" <michaelacoe@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1137820105.678864.19590@g47g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com... : Also, I've tried filling at about 10 different stations with the pump : nozzle insterted 1/2, 3/4, 1/4, all the way in, to the right, left, : upside down, standing on my head, etc. Same symptoms every time. : |
Re: 2002 TJ-problem filling gas tank
Does Hawaii have those collars onthe pump nozzles?
Sometimes they can cause a problem. If they do try pulling the sleeve back away from the opening in the filler neck to allow air to get in. I know it's awkward but that was pretty common in CA when they were on the pumps out there. Kate "redsoxalso" <michaelacoe@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1137820105.678864.19590@g47g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com... : Also, I've tried filling at about 10 different stations with the pump : nozzle insterted 1/2, 3/4, 1/4, all the way in, to the right, left, : upside down, standing on my head, etc. Same symptoms every time. : |
Re: 2002 TJ-problem filling gas tank
Eewww, think I'll just fill mine slowish! I have the same
problem on my '02 TJ and it does seem to help if I twist the hose handle to the left during the fill. Seahag "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote: > Looks to me like you could remove the inner fender > well and see if > the vent hose is pinched: > http://www.----------.com/temp/TJtank.jpg > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- > > redsoxalso wrote: >> >> Also, I've tried filling at about 10 different stations >> with the pump >> nozzle insterted 1/2, 3/4, 1/4, all the way in, to the >> right, left, >> upside down, standing on my head, etc. Same symptoms >> every time. |
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