Re: 2002 Sahara Axle Question
 

Roughly 1/5/04 15:41, Tomes's monkeys randomly typed:

> aw, Bill, this link does not work anymore, at least not for me. I wanted to
> get the scoop on my 2002 TJ, but I got this returned:

You can get there by going to www.jeep.com
Select the "For Owners" dinky little link at the bottom.
From the next screen, select "Contact Jeep".
On the "United States" "Contact Jeep" screen, select
"I Need Customer Assistance" and on the resulting
screen, select "Send Us an Email" which doesn't do
any such thing, it opens a form you can fill in with
your email address, your VIN, and your desire for a Build
Order.

As simple as programming your VCR. >:-)


--
Fan of the dumbest team in America.

Re: 2002 Sahara Axle Question
 

Roughly 1/5/04 15:41, Tomes's monkeys randomly typed:

> aw, Bill, this link does not work anymore, at least not for me. I wanted to
> get the scoop on my 2002 TJ, but I got this returned:

You can get there by going to www.jeep.com
Select the "For Owners" dinky little link at the bottom.
From the next screen, select "Contact Jeep".
On the "United States" "Contact Jeep" screen, select
"I Need Customer Assistance" and on the resulting
screen, select "Send Us an Email" which doesn't do
any such thing, it opens a form you can fill in with
your email address, your VIN, and your desire for a Build
Order.

As simple as programming your VCR. >:-)


--
Fan of the dumbest team in America.

Re: 2002 Sahara Axle Question
 

This sounds correct. Glad to see I am not the only one who noticed.
I bought my Jeep new from a dealership and I remember reading Dana 44
listed as an option on many of the window stickers of the vehicles I
looked at. The other night I dug up the sticker from my Jeep that I
had saved and it makes no mention of the Dana 44 as either standard or
optional equipment. Based on everything I have read and crawling
underneath my Jeep I am happy to say it is a D44. BTW, I don't have
rear disk brakes (not available in 2002), LSD, or ABS.

It is strange that your order lists a Dana 35 though that goes along
with the 2003 specications on the Jeep web site stating that the D44
is not available on the Sahara (2003). Seems like the specs are
wrong.

Tim Hayes <thayes@remove-me.rutgers.edu> wrote in message news:<3ffa005f$1@rutgers.edu>...
> My '03 Sahara has a D44 rear with 3.73 gears. The front is a D30 (same
> gearing obviously). The Sahara comes stock with the 30" tire package and
> the D44 @3.73. Oddly the ordering page on the Jeep web site specified
> a D35, but I've never actually seen a Sahara with one (I checked for a
> few months after I got mine and was trying to determine what I had- this
> exact question was an issue for me once.)
>
> It starts to get funny when you add in rear disc brakes, a LSD, or ABS.
> There were some restritions about ordering those together and I think
> one or more of them resulted in a D35 being fitted rather than a D44,
> even with 30" tires.
>
> If you do not have rear disc breaks, the LSD, or ABS then I'm sure you
> got a D44 (in the US anyway).
>
> If the diff cover is like a sideways apple, then you do have a D44. The
> D35 is very, very, obviously round.
>
> Blueshirts wrote:
>
> > I have a 2002 Jeep Sahara TJ (Wrangler) and am trying to determine
> > which rear axle it came with from the factory. I have read earlier
> > posts regarding shape of the diff cover and it is definitely not round
> > so I assumed it was a Dana 44.
> >
> > I then looked at the most recent specifications for the Wrangler on
> > the Jeep web site and it states that for 2003 the Dana 44 is not
> > available on the Sahara. For 2004 it looks like it is an available
> > option. Does anyone know (or can point me to) the specifications for
> > 2002 Jeep Wranglers and was the Dana 44 an available option for a
> > Sahara in 2002?
> >
> > I also read somewhere that TJ's with the 30 inch tire package came
> > with the Dana 44 in the rear, anyone know if this is true? It would
> > make sense.
> >
> > This is a table for 2003 of data I found on the Jeep web site and as
> > you can see (unless it is a mistake) the Dana 44 was not a standard
> > feature or an option for Sahara's in 2003.
> >
> > 2003 Jeep GVWR, Towing, Suspension
> >
> > Model SE X SPORT SAHARA RUBICON
> > Optional Package A N X D G U
> > 3.07:1 Axle Ratio - - x x - -
> > 3.73:1 Axle Ratio - - a a x -
> > 4,450-Pound GVWR x x x x x -
> > 4,550-Pound GVWR - - - - - x
> > 4:1 Rock-Trac(TM) - - - - - x
> > 4.11:1 Axle Ratio x x - - - x
> > Command-Trac(R) x x x x x -
> > Dana 30 Front Axle x x x x x -
> > Dana 35 Rear Axle x x x x x -
> > Dana 44-3 HD Rear Ax - - - a - x
> > Dana M44/216MM FAxle - - - - - x

Re: 2002 Sahara Axle Question
 

This sounds correct. Glad to see I am not the only one who noticed.
I bought my Jeep new from a dealership and I remember reading Dana 44
listed as an option on many of the window stickers of the vehicles I
looked at. The other night I dug up the sticker from my Jeep that I
had saved and it makes no mention of the Dana 44 as either standard or
optional equipment. Based on everything I have read and crawling
underneath my Jeep I am happy to say it is a D44. BTW, I don't have
rear disk brakes (not available in 2002), LSD, or ABS.

It is strange that your order lists a Dana 35 though that goes along
with the 2003 specications on the Jeep web site stating that the D44
is not available on the Sahara (2003). Seems like the specs are
wrong.

Tim Hayes <thayes@remove-me.rutgers.edu> wrote in message news:<3ffa005f$1@rutgers.edu>...
> My '03 Sahara has a D44 rear with 3.73 gears. The front is a D30 (same
> gearing obviously). The Sahara comes stock with the 30" tire package and
> the D44 @3.73. Oddly the ordering page on the Jeep web site specified
> a D35, but I've never actually seen a Sahara with one (I checked for a
> few months after I got mine and was trying to determine what I had- this
> exact question was an issue for me once.)
>
> It starts to get funny when you add in rear disc brakes, a LSD, or ABS.
> There were some restritions about ordering those together and I think
> one or more of them resulted in a D35 being fitted rather than a D44,
> even with 30" tires.
>
> If you do not have rear disc breaks, the LSD, or ABS then I'm sure you
> got a D44 (in the US anyway).
>
> If the diff cover is like a sideways apple, then you do have a D44. The
> D35 is very, very, obviously round.
>
> Blueshirts wrote:
>
> > I have a 2002 Jeep Sahara TJ (Wrangler) and am trying to determine
> > which rear axle it came with from the factory. I have read earlier
> > posts regarding shape of the diff cover and it is definitely not round
> > so I assumed it was a Dana 44.
> >
> > I then looked at the most recent specifications for the Wrangler on
> > the Jeep web site and it states that for 2003 the Dana 44 is not
> > available on the Sahara. For 2004 it looks like it is an available
> > option. Does anyone know (or can point me to) the specifications for
> > 2002 Jeep Wranglers and was the Dana 44 an available option for a
> > Sahara in 2002?
> >
> > I also read somewhere that TJ's with the 30 inch tire package came
> > with the Dana 44 in the rear, anyone know if this is true? It would
> > make sense.
> >
> > This is a table for 2003 of data I found on the Jeep web site and as
> > you can see (unless it is a mistake) the Dana 44 was not a standard
> > feature or an option for Sahara's in 2003.
> >
> > 2003 Jeep GVWR, Towing, Suspension
> >
> > Model SE X SPORT SAHARA RUBICON
> > Optional Package A N X D G U
> > 3.07:1 Axle Ratio - - x x - -
> > 3.73:1 Axle Ratio - - a a x -
> > 4,450-Pound GVWR x x x x x -
> > 4,550-Pound GVWR - - - - - x
> > 4:1 Rock-Trac(TM) - - - - - x
> > 4.11:1 Axle Ratio x x - - - x
> > Command-Trac(R) x x x x x -
> > Dana 30 Front Axle x x x x x -
> > Dana 35 Rear Axle x x x x x -
> > Dana 44-3 HD Rear Ax - - - a - x
> > Dana M44/216MM FAxle - - - - - x

Re: 2002 Sahara Axle Question
 

This sounds correct. Glad to see I am not the only one who noticed.
I bought my Jeep new from a dealership and I remember reading Dana 44
listed as an option on many of the window stickers of the vehicles I
looked at. The other night I dug up the sticker from my Jeep that I
had saved and it makes no mention of the Dana 44 as either standard or
optional equipment. Based on everything I have read and crawling
underneath my Jeep I am happy to say it is a D44. BTW, I don't have
rear disk brakes (not available in 2002), LSD, or ABS.

It is strange that your order lists a Dana 35 though that goes along
with the 2003 specications on the Jeep web site stating that the D44
is not available on the Sahara (2003). Seems like the specs are
wrong.

Tim Hayes <thayes@remove-me.rutgers.edu> wrote in message news:<3ffa005f$1@rutgers.edu>...
> My '03 Sahara has a D44 rear with 3.73 gears. The front is a D30 (same
> gearing obviously). The Sahara comes stock with the 30" tire package and
> the D44 @3.73. Oddly the ordering page on the Jeep web site specified
> a D35, but I've never actually seen a Sahara with one (I checked for a
> few months after I got mine and was trying to determine what I had- this
> exact question was an issue for me once.)
>
> It starts to get funny when you add in rear disc brakes, a LSD, or ABS.
> There were some restritions about ordering those together and I think
> one or more of them resulted in a D35 being fitted rather than a D44,
> even with 30" tires.
>
> If you do not have rear disc breaks, the LSD, or ABS then I'm sure you
> got a D44 (in the US anyway).
>
> If the diff cover is like a sideways apple, then you do have a D44. The
> D35 is very, very, obviously round.
>
> Blueshirts wrote:
>
> > I have a 2002 Jeep Sahara TJ (Wrangler) and am trying to determine
> > which rear axle it came with from the factory. I have read earlier
> > posts regarding shape of the diff cover and it is definitely not round
> > so I assumed it was a Dana 44.
> >
> > I then looked at the most recent specifications for the Wrangler on
> > the Jeep web site and it states that for 2003 the Dana 44 is not
> > available on the Sahara. For 2004 it looks like it is an available
> > option. Does anyone know (or can point me to) the specifications for
> > 2002 Jeep Wranglers and was the Dana 44 an available option for a
> > Sahara in 2002?
> >
> > I also read somewhere that TJ's with the 30 inch tire package came
> > with the Dana 44 in the rear, anyone know if this is true? It would
> > make sense.
> >
> > This is a table for 2003 of data I found on the Jeep web site and as
> > you can see (unless it is a mistake) the Dana 44 was not a standard
> > feature or an option for Sahara's in 2003.
> >
> > 2003 Jeep GVWR, Towing, Suspension
> >
> > Model SE X SPORT SAHARA RUBICON
> > Optional Package A N X D G U
> > 3.07:1 Axle Ratio - - x x - -
> > 3.73:1 Axle Ratio - - a a x -
> > 4,450-Pound GVWR x x x x x -
> > 4,550-Pound GVWR - - - - - x
> > 4:1 Rock-Trac(TM) - - - - - x
> > 4.11:1 Axle Ratio x x - - - x
> > Command-Trac(R) x x x x x -
> > Dana 30 Front Axle x x x x x -
> > Dana 35 Rear Axle x x x x x -
> > Dana 44-3 HD Rear Ax - - - a - x
> > Dana M44/216MM FAxle - - - - - x

Re: 2002 Sahara Axle Question
 

All export models have the Dana 44, if that's what you have.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Blueshirts wrote:
>
> This sounds correct. Glad to see I am not the only one who noticed.
> I bought my Jeep new from a dealership and I remember reading Dana 44
> listed as an option on many of the window stickers of the vehicles I
> looked at. The other night I dug up the sticker from my Jeep that I
> had saved and it makes no mention of the Dana 44 as either standard or
> optional equipment. Based on everything I have read and crawling
> underneath my Jeep I am happy to say it is a D44. BTW, I don't have
> rear disk brakes (not available in 2002), LSD, or ABS.
>
> It is strange that your order lists a Dana 35 though that goes along
> with the 2003 specications on the Jeep web site stating that the D44
> is not available on the Sahara (2003). Seems like the specs are
> wrong.

Re: 2002 Sahara Axle Question
 

All export models have the Dana 44, if that's what you have.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Blueshirts wrote:
>
> This sounds correct. Glad to see I am not the only one who noticed.
> I bought my Jeep new from a dealership and I remember reading Dana 44
> listed as an option on many of the window stickers of the vehicles I
> looked at. The other night I dug up the sticker from my Jeep that I
> had saved and it makes no mention of the Dana 44 as either standard or
> optional equipment. Based on everything I have read and crawling
> underneath my Jeep I am happy to say it is a D44. BTW, I don't have
> rear disk brakes (not available in 2002), LSD, or ABS.
>
> It is strange that your order lists a Dana 35 though that goes along
> with the 2003 specications on the Jeep web site stating that the D44
> is not available on the Sahara (2003). Seems like the specs are
> wrong.

Re: 2002 Sahara Axle Question
 

All export models have the Dana 44, if that's what you have.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Blueshirts wrote:
>
> This sounds correct. Glad to see I am not the only one who noticed.
> I bought my Jeep new from a dealership and I remember reading Dana 44
> listed as an option on many of the window stickers of the vehicles I
> looked at. The other night I dug up the sticker from my Jeep that I
> had saved and it makes no mention of the Dana 44 as either standard or
> optional equipment. Based on everything I have read and crawling
> underneath my Jeep I am happy to say it is a D44. BTW, I don't have
> rear disk brakes (not available in 2002), LSD, or ABS.
>
> It is strange that your order lists a Dana 35 though that goes along
> with the 2003 specications on the Jeep web site stating that the D44
> is not available on the Sahara (2003). Seems like the specs are
> wrong.

Re: 2002 Sahara Axle Question
 

Bought it in Fairfax, VA.

L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:<3FFAF705.B5400A5D@cox.net>...
> All export models have the Dana 44, if that's what you have.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Blueshirts wrote:
> >
> > This sounds correct. Glad to see I am not the only one who noticed.
> > I bought my Jeep new from a dealership and I remember reading Dana 44
> > listed as an option on many of the window stickers of the vehicles I
> > looked at. The other night I dug up the sticker from my Jeep that I
> > had saved and it makes no mention of the Dana 44 as either standard or
> > optional equipment. Based on everything I have read and crawling
> > underneath my Jeep I am happy to say it is a D44. BTW, I don't have
> > rear disk brakes (not available in 2002), LSD, or ABS.
> >
> > It is strange that your order lists a Dana 35 though that goes along
> > with the 2003 specications on the Jeep web site stating that the D44
> > is not available on the Sahara (2003). Seems like the specs are
> > wrong.

Re: 2002 Sahara Axle Question
 

Bought it in Fairfax, VA.

L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:<3FFAF705.B5400A5D@cox.net>...
> All export models have the Dana 44, if that's what you have.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Blueshirts wrote:
> >
> > This sounds correct. Glad to see I am not the only one who noticed.
> > I bought my Jeep new from a dealership and I remember reading Dana 44
> > listed as an option on many of the window stickers of the vehicles I
> > looked at. The other night I dug up the sticker from my Jeep that I
> > had saved and it makes no mention of the Dana 44 as either standard or
> > optional equipment. Based on everything I have read and crawling
> > underneath my Jeep I am happy to say it is a D44. BTW, I don't have
> > rear disk brakes (not available in 2002), LSD, or ABS.
> >
> > It is strange that your order lists a Dana 35 though that goes along
> > with the 2003 specications on the Jeep web site stating that the D44
> > is not available on the Sahara (2003). Seems like the specs are
> > wrong.