2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4 liter automatic
06-26-2005, 07:03 PM
#31
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Re: 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4 liter automatic
Hopefully we will never get quite as litigious as you , as here you have to
pay the other party's costs if you lose.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> litigiously. http://www.----------.com/blame/
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > In terms of us becoming more litigious ? Can't disagree with you sadly.
> > Or did you mean me forgetting to depress the clutch ? Nah, it took me 6
> > months to realise the interlock was there as I always depress it. Only
found
> > out when my Dad complained it wouldn't start.
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
pay the other party's costs if you lose.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> litigiously. http://www.----------.com/blame/
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > In terms of us becoming more litigious ? Can't disagree with you sadly.
> > Or did you mean me forgetting to depress the clutch ? Nah, it took me 6
> > months to realise the interlock was there as I always depress it. Only
found
> > out when my Dad complained it wouldn't start.
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
06-26-2005, 07:03 PM
#32
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Re: 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4 liter automatic
Hopefully we will never get quite as litigious as you , as here you have to
pay the other party's costs if you lose.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:42BF30CC.D1F9F79E@***.net...
> litigiously. http://www.----------.com/blame/
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > In terms of us becoming more litigious ? Can't disagree with you sadly.
> > Or did you mean me forgetting to depress the clutch ? Nah, it took me 6
> > months to realise the interlock was there as I always depress it. Only
found
> > out when my Dad complained it wouldn't start.
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
pay the other party's costs if you lose.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:42BF30CC.D1F9F79E@***.net...
> litigiously. http://www.----------.com/blame/
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > In terms of us becoming more litigious ? Can't disagree with you sadly.
> > Or did you mean me forgetting to depress the clutch ? Nah, it took me 6
> > months to realise the interlock was there as I always depress it. Only
found
> > out when my Dad complained it wouldn't start.
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
06-26-2005, 07:03 PM
#33
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Re: 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4 liter automatic
Hopefully we will never get quite as litigious as you , as here you have to
pay the other party's costs if you lose.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:42BF30CC.D1F9F79E@***.net...
> litigiously. http://www.----------.com/blame/
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > In terms of us becoming more litigious ? Can't disagree with you sadly.
> > Or did you mean me forgetting to depress the clutch ? Nah, it took me 6
> > months to realise the interlock was there as I always depress it. Only
found
> > out when my Dad complained it wouldn't start.
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
pay the other party's costs if you lose.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:42BF30CC.D1F9F79E@***.net...
> litigiously. http://www.----------.com/blame/
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > In terms of us becoming more litigious ? Can't disagree with you sadly.
> > Or did you mean me forgetting to depress the clutch ? Nah, it took me 6
> > months to realise the interlock was there as I always depress it. Only
found
> > out when my Dad complained it wouldn't start.
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
06-26-2005, 07:17 PM
#34
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Re: 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4 liter automatic
test it all you want because the parts are only availble with the shifter
Billy Ray wrote:
> Okay guys I need some assistance,
>
> I have no illumination in the automatic transmission / Transfer case at
> night.
>
> I original assumed that the bulbs had burned out but when I removed the
> console I found not bulbs but an electro-lumiscent panel.
>
> I was unable to borrow a voltmeter but I was able to get a 12v test light.
> There is power going into a "black box" that is between the wiring harness
> and the electro-lumiscent panel. The output side of the "black box" did not
> illuminate the tester but I do not know what voltage would be on the output
> side.
>
> Is there a way to test this "black box" or the electro-lumiscent panel?
>
> Thanks,
> -billy
Billy Ray wrote:
> Okay guys I need some assistance,
>
> I have no illumination in the automatic transmission / Transfer case at
> night.
>
> I original assumed that the bulbs had burned out but when I removed the
> console I found not bulbs but an electro-lumiscent panel.
>
> I was unable to borrow a voltmeter but I was able to get a 12v test light.
> There is power going into a "black box" that is between the wiring harness
> and the electro-lumiscent panel. The output side of the "black box" did not
> illuminate the tester but I do not know what voltage would be on the output
> side.
>
> Is there a way to test this "black box" or the electro-lumiscent panel?
>
> Thanks,
> -billy
06-26-2005, 07:17 PM
#35
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Re: 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4 liter automatic
test it all you want because the parts are only availble with the shifter
Billy Ray wrote:
> Okay guys I need some assistance,
>
> I have no illumination in the automatic transmission / Transfer case at
> night.
>
> I original assumed that the bulbs had burned out but when I removed the
> console I found not bulbs but an electro-lumiscent panel.
>
> I was unable to borrow a voltmeter but I was able to get a 12v test light.
> There is power going into a "black box" that is between the wiring harness
> and the electro-lumiscent panel. The output side of the "black box" did not
> illuminate the tester but I do not know what voltage would be on the output
> side.
>
> Is there a way to test this "black box" or the electro-lumiscent panel?
>
> Thanks,
> -billy
Billy Ray wrote:
> Okay guys I need some assistance,
>
> I have no illumination in the automatic transmission / Transfer case at
> night.
>
> I original assumed that the bulbs had burned out but when I removed the
> console I found not bulbs but an electro-lumiscent panel.
>
> I was unable to borrow a voltmeter but I was able to get a 12v test light.
> There is power going into a "black box" that is between the wiring harness
> and the electro-lumiscent panel. The output side of the "black box" did not
> illuminate the tester but I do not know what voltage would be on the output
> side.
>
> Is there a way to test this "black box" or the electro-lumiscent panel?
>
> Thanks,
> -billy
06-26-2005, 07:17 PM
#36
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Re: 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4 liter automatic
test it all you want because the parts are only availble with the shifter
Billy Ray wrote:
> Okay guys I need some assistance,
>
> I have no illumination in the automatic transmission / Transfer case at
> night.
>
> I original assumed that the bulbs had burned out but when I removed the
> console I found not bulbs but an electro-lumiscent panel.
>
> I was unable to borrow a voltmeter but I was able to get a 12v test light.
> There is power going into a "black box" that is between the wiring harness
> and the electro-lumiscent panel. The output side of the "black box" did not
> illuminate the tester but I do not know what voltage would be on the output
> side.
>
> Is there a way to test this "black box" or the electro-lumiscent panel?
>
> Thanks,
> -billy
Billy Ray wrote:
> Okay guys I need some assistance,
>
> I have no illumination in the automatic transmission / Transfer case at
> night.
>
> I original assumed that the bulbs had burned out but when I removed the
> console I found not bulbs but an electro-lumiscent panel.
>
> I was unable to borrow a voltmeter but I was able to get a 12v test light.
> There is power going into a "black box" that is between the wiring harness
> and the electro-lumiscent panel. The output side of the "black box" did not
> illuminate the tester but I do not know what voltage would be on the output
> side.
>
> Is there a way to test this "black box" or the electro-lumiscent panel?
>
> Thanks,
> -billy
06-26-2005, 07:17 PM
#37
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Re: 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4 liter automatic
test it all you want because the parts are only availble with the shifter
Billy Ray wrote:
> Okay guys I need some assistance,
>
> I have no illumination in the automatic transmission / Transfer case at
> night.
>
> I original assumed that the bulbs had burned out but when I removed the
> console I found not bulbs but an electro-lumiscent panel.
>
> I was unable to borrow a voltmeter but I was able to get a 12v test light.
> There is power going into a "black box" that is between the wiring harness
> and the electro-lumiscent panel. The output side of the "black box" did not
> illuminate the tester but I do not know what voltage would be on the output
> side.
>
> Is there a way to test this "black box" or the electro-lumiscent panel?
>
> Thanks,
> -billy
Billy Ray wrote:
> Okay guys I need some assistance,
>
> I have no illumination in the automatic transmission / Transfer case at
> night.
>
> I original assumed that the bulbs had burned out but when I removed the
> console I found not bulbs but an electro-lumiscent panel.
>
> I was unable to borrow a voltmeter but I was able to get a 12v test light.
> There is power going into a "black box" that is between the wiring harness
> and the electro-lumiscent panel. The output side of the "black box" did not
> illuminate the tester but I do not know what voltage would be on the output
> side.
>
> Is there a way to test this "black box" or the electro-lumiscent panel?
>
> Thanks,
> -billy
06-26-2005, 07:29 PM
#38
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Re: 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4 liter automatic
Another good idea which will never see the light of day in the US due to the
trial lawyer lobby in Washington.
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:svGve.57159$G8.33686@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> Hopefully we will never get quite as litigious as you , as here you have
> to
> pay the other party's costs if you lose.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:42BF30CC.D1F9F79E@***.net...
>> litigiously. http://www.----------.com/blame/
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> mailto:--------------------
>> Dave Milne wrote:
>> >
>> > In terms of us becoming more litigious ? Can't disagree with you sadly.
>> > Or did you mean me forgetting to depress the clutch ? Nah, it took me 6
>> > months to realise the interlock was there as I always depress it. Only
> found
>> > out when my Dad complained it wouldn't start.
>> >
>> > Dave Milne, Scotland
>> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
>
trial lawyer lobby in Washington.
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:svGve.57159$G8.33686@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> Hopefully we will never get quite as litigious as you , as here you have
> to
> pay the other party's costs if you lose.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:42BF30CC.D1F9F79E@***.net...
>> litigiously. http://www.----------.com/blame/
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> mailto:--------------------
>> Dave Milne wrote:
>> >
>> > In terms of us becoming more litigious ? Can't disagree with you sadly.
>> > Or did you mean me forgetting to depress the clutch ? Nah, it took me 6
>> > months to realise the interlock was there as I always depress it. Only
> found
>> > out when my Dad complained it wouldn't start.
>> >
>> > Dave Milne, Scotland
>> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
>
06-26-2005, 07:29 PM
#39
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Re: 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4 liter automatic
Another good idea which will never see the light of day in the US due to the
trial lawyer lobby in Washington.
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:svGve.57159$G8.33686@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> Hopefully we will never get quite as litigious as you , as here you have
> to
> pay the other party's costs if you lose.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:42BF30CC.D1F9F79E@***.net...
>> litigiously. http://www.----------.com/blame/
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> mailto:--------------------
>> Dave Milne wrote:
>> >
>> > In terms of us becoming more litigious ? Can't disagree with you sadly.
>> > Or did you mean me forgetting to depress the clutch ? Nah, it took me 6
>> > months to realise the interlock was there as I always depress it. Only
> found
>> > out when my Dad complained it wouldn't start.
>> >
>> > Dave Milne, Scotland
>> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
>
trial lawyer lobby in Washington.
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:svGve.57159$G8.33686@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> Hopefully we will never get quite as litigious as you , as here you have
> to
> pay the other party's costs if you lose.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:42BF30CC.D1F9F79E@***.net...
>> litigiously. http://www.----------.com/blame/
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> mailto:--------------------
>> Dave Milne wrote:
>> >
>> > In terms of us becoming more litigious ? Can't disagree with you sadly.
>> > Or did you mean me forgetting to depress the clutch ? Nah, it took me 6
>> > months to realise the interlock was there as I always depress it. Only
> found
>> > out when my Dad complained it wouldn't start.
>> >
>> > Dave Milne, Scotland
>> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
>
06-26-2005, 07:29 PM
#40
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Re: 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4 liter automatic
Another good idea which will never see the light of day in the US due to the
trial lawyer lobby in Washington.
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:svGve.57159$G8.33686@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> Hopefully we will never get quite as litigious as you , as here you have
> to
> pay the other party's costs if you lose.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:42BF30CC.D1F9F79E@***.net...
>> litigiously. http://www.----------.com/blame/
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> mailto:--------------------
>> Dave Milne wrote:
>> >
>> > In terms of us becoming more litigious ? Can't disagree with you sadly.
>> > Or did you mean me forgetting to depress the clutch ? Nah, it took me 6
>> > months to realise the interlock was there as I always depress it. Only
> found
>> > out when my Dad complained it wouldn't start.
>> >
>> > Dave Milne, Scotland
>> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
>
trial lawyer lobby in Washington.
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:svGve.57159$G8.33686@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> Hopefully we will never get quite as litigious as you , as here you have
> to
> pay the other party's costs if you lose.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:42BF30CC.D1F9F79E@***.net...
>> litigiously. http://www.----------.com/blame/
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> mailto:--------------------
>> Dave Milne wrote:
>> >
>> > In terms of us becoming more litigious ? Can't disagree with you sadly.
>> > Or did you mean me forgetting to depress the clutch ? Nah, it took me 6
>> > months to realise the interlock was there as I always depress it. Only
> found
>> > out when my Dad complained it wouldn't start.
>> >
>> > Dave Milne, Scotland
>> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
>