twaldron

I haven't heard of it, but it sounds fun. That's only a full days drive
for me so I might try it sometime. Just got back from Nashville in the
XJ, but unfortunately it was not a 4WD trip. :)

Just Empty Every Pocket...yes, but somehow it's more fun than spending
money on landscaping...

Andy wrote:

> Big South Fork In KY and TN. Beautiful place. Lots of trails, not mapped.
> One was so we took it. It followed an old railroad bed. Some real nice
> bridge crossings over the creek we new we had to cross with no bridge.
>
> The trail is mild, or was mild, for the most part. Half way into it we
> found a HUGE bolder sitting smack dam on the road. Some ATV's had made a go
> around and hell, I figured if they can do it, so can I. With a stock Jeep
> mind you. Well I did it and amazed my wife who had her eyes closed. Later
> on we started down towards the creek. It got real bad, rocks. We made it
> and then sand, loose. Well, here is where we stopped. Couldn't see a way
> across so I turned around and got out somehow. We met a local later who
> said we had to get in the creek and drive upstream a little and then we
> would see the road across the creek, and it was safe crossing there. I was
> just wondering if anybody in the news group knows about this trail. I was
> wanting to complete it.
>
> Thanks for all your suggestings. I will use them. Is this why Jeep is J
> (just) E (empty) E (every P (pocket)?
>
>
>
>
> "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:TcUkb.201$GK3.185@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com. ..
>
>>Andy wrote:
>>
>> We have seen
>>
>>>numerous Rubicon's on the trails and they walk up those muddy hills with
>>>lockers. But we decided to take our 3 year old TJ and simply make it a
>>>Rubicon. HA!
>>
>>Nothing wrong with that!
>>
>>
>>
>>> "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
>>>
>>>>Congrats on the TJ, you picked some good factory options.
>>>>
>>>>1. All 3 of those are great lift kits. (Teraflex, OME, RE) Lift is
>>>>subjective as far as height (i.e. what do you want and what will you
>>>>need?) First of all, WHY ARE YOU LIFTING IT? Is 4" too much, or not
>>>>enough? OME will give you 2.5" and is a superior suspension kit. Tera
>>>>and RE both have excellent 3/4/4.5" kits. More info on intended offroad
>>>>use here would help.
>>>
>>>*********************************************** *********
>>>I live in Kentucky and have gone to both Land Between the Lakes and
>
> Tellico
>
>>>in Murphy, NC. There are some real tough trails there and I couln't do
>
> some
>
>>>of them without lift. I have a stock Jeep now. I have talked to many
>
> Jeep
>
>>>owners and most say a quality lift kit will still ride as well as stock.
>
> I
>
>>>drove a 2002 TJ with Terra Flex and it seemed to have great manners on
>
> the
>
>>>road. I suppose around 4" will suit me well.
>>
>>You've got some GREAT 4 wheeling where you are! I find the 4/4.5" lift
>>and 33s to be a perfect setup for what you're talking about. I have a
>>std. 4" Teraflex lift and find it to be VERY well mannered. The LA kits
>>claim to help even further in the handling dept., but I've had no
>>disappointments with mine. It is slightly firmer than stock, but NOT
>>stiff. I attribute the slight extra firmness to the DT3000 shock (very
>>happy with) and the slightly higher spring rate of the kit.
>>
>>
>>>>********************************************** ********
>>>>2. Tire size is also subjective and inter-relates heavily with lift
>>>>choice. More info on what you intend to do offroad. A 4" lift and 33s go
>>>>nicely, as do a 2.5 lift and 31 to possibly 32s. BFG ATs/MTs, Goodyear
>>>>MT/Rs are my choices. Remember, you might have to get some aftermarket
>>>>wheels if you go much wider than 10.50 on the tire and disconnect your
>>>>swaybar.
>>>
>>>*********************************************** *******
>>>I have factory 15" wheels now with 30" tires. Yuk, nice looking but not
>
> for
>
>>>off road.. The trails here are muddy mostly, with some rocks and loose
>
> dirt.
>
>>>Climbing a muddy hill is where I need the best tire. I will need to
>
> change
>
>>>wheels for sure. 32's would be good. Can I go to 16" wheels or will I
>
> need
>
>>>a body lift??
>>>*********************************************** *******
>>
>>With that terrain, I'd go with BFG MTs, other people like the MT/R in
>>mud too, but I've been a little disappointed (my driving technique
>>perhaps?). I do like the MT/R in GENERAL better, but it won't wear as
>>well. The BFG is a superb mud tire. With the 4" lift, you can go with
>>33s. The offset of the factory wheels will not allow you to run the
>>wider tires, so you will have to get some aftermarket wheels. I'd stick
>>with 15" because the sidewall will be taller and slightly more flexible
>>and will allow you to air down the tires a little to get better traction
>>on the slippery rocks you will encounter and will be less likely to come
>>off the rim than with 16" wheels and a shorter sidewall. NOTE: The wheel
>>dia. doesn't affect your lift, it's the tire dia. and width. I am not a
>>big fan of body lifts, but you won't need one if you stick with a 4"+
>>lift and 32/33s.
>>
>>
>>
>>>>3. Consider an ARB for a Jeep that gets a lot of road use. My Rubicon
>>>>has a switchable locker and I really like having the option to
>>>>engage/disengage it. I like Warn for winches, people have other opinions
>>>>as well. You should have recovery equipt. like ****** strap, tree saver,
>>>>****** block, choker chain, tow strap, etc. and go have fun. Wheel with
>>>>someone else if at all possible!!
>>>
>>>*********************************************** ******
>>>Roger the wheel with someone else. I like ARB because I want an open
>
> diff
>
>>>for on road. Roger on Warn and all the supplies. I have some of these
>
> and
>
>>>put them to good use. Question: has anybody gone to Big South Fork in
>>>Tennessee? I was there and there is this one trail....
>>
>>
>>Do tell.... :)
>>
>>
>>
>>--
>>________________________________________________ ___________
>>tw
>>03 TJ Rubicon
>>01 XJ Sport
>>
>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
>>-- Dave Barry
>>
>>http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
>>________________________________________________ ___________
>>
>
>
>

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________

twaldron

I haven't heard of it, but it sounds fun. That's only a full days drive
for me so I might try it sometime. Just got back from Nashville in the
XJ, but unfortunately it was not a 4WD trip. :)

Just Empty Every Pocket...yes, but somehow it's more fun than spending
money on landscaping...

Andy wrote:

> Big South Fork In KY and TN. Beautiful place. Lots of trails, not mapped.
> One was so we took it. It followed an old railroad bed. Some real nice
> bridge crossings over the creek we new we had to cross with no bridge.
>
> The trail is mild, or was mild, for the most part. Half way into it we
> found a HUGE bolder sitting smack dam on the road. Some ATV's had made a go
> around and hell, I figured if they can do it, so can I. With a stock Jeep
> mind you. Well I did it and amazed my wife who had her eyes closed. Later
> on we started down towards the creek. It got real bad, rocks. We made it
> and then sand, loose. Well, here is where we stopped. Couldn't see a way
> across so I turned around and got out somehow. We met a local later who
> said we had to get in the creek and drive upstream a little and then we
> would see the road across the creek, and it was safe crossing there. I was
> just wondering if anybody in the news group knows about this trail. I was
> wanting to complete it.
>
> Thanks for all your suggestings. I will use them. Is this why Jeep is J
> (just) E (empty) E (every P (pocket)?
>
>
>
>
> "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:TcUkb.201$GK3.185@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com. ..
>
>>Andy wrote:
>>
>> We have seen
>>
>>>numerous Rubicon's on the trails and they walk up those muddy hills with
>>>lockers. But we decided to take our 3 year old TJ and simply make it a
>>>Rubicon. HA!
>>
>>Nothing wrong with that!
>>
>>
>>
>>> "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
>>>
>>>>Congrats on the TJ, you picked some good factory options.
>>>>
>>>>1. All 3 of those are great lift kits. (Teraflex, OME, RE) Lift is
>>>>subjective as far as height (i.e. what do you want and what will you
>>>>need?) First of all, WHY ARE YOU LIFTING IT? Is 4" too much, or not
>>>>enough? OME will give you 2.5" and is a superior suspension kit. Tera
>>>>and RE both have excellent 3/4/4.5" kits. More info on intended offroad
>>>>use here would help.
>>>
>>>*********************************************** *********
>>>I live in Kentucky and have gone to both Land Between the Lakes and
>
> Tellico
>
>>>in Murphy, NC. There are some real tough trails there and I couln't do
>
> some
>
>>>of them without lift. I have a stock Jeep now. I have talked to many
>
> Jeep
>
>>>owners and most say a quality lift kit will still ride as well as stock.
>
> I
>
>>>drove a 2002 TJ with Terra Flex and it seemed to have great manners on
>
> the
>
>>>road. I suppose around 4" will suit me well.
>>
>>You've got some GREAT 4 wheeling where you are! I find the 4/4.5" lift
>>and 33s to be a perfect setup for what you're talking about. I have a
>>std. 4" Teraflex lift and find it to be VERY well mannered. The LA kits
>>claim to help even further in the handling dept., but I've had no
>>disappointments with mine. It is slightly firmer than stock, but NOT
>>stiff. I attribute the slight extra firmness to the DT3000 shock (very
>>happy with) and the slightly higher spring rate of the kit.
>>
>>
>>>>********************************************** ********
>>>>2. Tire size is also subjective and inter-relates heavily with lift
>>>>choice. More info on what you intend to do offroad. A 4" lift and 33s go
>>>>nicely, as do a 2.5 lift and 31 to possibly 32s. BFG ATs/MTs, Goodyear
>>>>MT/Rs are my choices. Remember, you might have to get some aftermarket
>>>>wheels if you go much wider than 10.50 on the tire and disconnect your
>>>>swaybar.
>>>
>>>*********************************************** *******
>>>I have factory 15" wheels now with 30" tires. Yuk, nice looking but not
>
> for
>
>>>off road.. The trails here are muddy mostly, with some rocks and loose
>
> dirt.
>
>>>Climbing a muddy hill is where I need the best tire. I will need to
>
> change
>
>>>wheels for sure. 32's would be good. Can I go to 16" wheels or will I
>
> need
>
>>>a body lift??
>>>*********************************************** *******
>>
>>With that terrain, I'd go with BFG MTs, other people like the MT/R in
>>mud too, but I've been a little disappointed (my driving technique
>>perhaps?). I do like the MT/R in GENERAL better, but it won't wear as
>>well. The BFG is a superb mud tire. With the 4" lift, you can go with
>>33s. The offset of the factory wheels will not allow you to run the
>>wider tires, so you will have to get some aftermarket wheels. I'd stick
>>with 15" because the sidewall will be taller and slightly more flexible
>>and will allow you to air down the tires a little to get better traction
>>on the slippery rocks you will encounter and will be less likely to come
>>off the rim than with 16" wheels and a shorter sidewall. NOTE: The wheel
>>dia. doesn't affect your lift, it's the tire dia. and width. I am not a
>>big fan of body lifts, but you won't need one if you stick with a 4"+
>>lift and 32/33s.
>>
>>
>>
>>>>3. Consider an ARB for a Jeep that gets a lot of road use. My Rubicon
>>>>has a switchable locker and I really like having the option to
>>>>engage/disengage it. I like Warn for winches, people have other opinions
>>>>as well. You should have recovery equipt. like ****** strap, tree saver,
>>>>****** block, choker chain, tow strap, etc. and go have fun. Wheel with
>>>>someone else if at all possible!!
>>>
>>>*********************************************** ******
>>>Roger the wheel with someone else. I like ARB because I want an open
>
> diff
>
>>>for on road. Roger on Warn and all the supplies. I have some of these
>
> and
>
>>>put them to good use. Question: has anybody gone to Big South Fork in
>>>Tennessee? I was there and there is this one trail....
>>
>>
>>Do tell.... :)
>>
>>
>>
>>--
>>________________________________________________ ___________
>>tw
>>03 TJ Rubicon
>>01 XJ Sport
>>
>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
>>-- Dave Barry
>>
>>http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
>>________________________________________________ ___________
>>
>
>
>

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________

Andy

Mike,

What is a float trailer vice? I know a tow bar can do some damage if you
corner from a standstill and you can't back up. I try to go wide around
corners and never back up.

Andy

"Mike T" <cpl.taylor@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:71Ukb.2212$XO.326954@news20.bellglobal.com...
> dont know if its possible for you, but i would seriously consider a float
> trailer vice towing your TJ.
> "Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:yQTkb.837567$uu5.148294@sccrnsc04...
> > Thanks twaldron for your reply. My answers are below. Yes, I optioned
my
> > TJ with the hopes I would build it up some day. Thanks. We have seen
> > numerous Rubicon's on the trails and they walk up those muddy hills with
> > lockers. But we decided to take our 3 year old TJ and simply make it a
> > Rubicon. HA!
> >
> > "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> > news:u_Skb.189$Za1.148@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com. ..
> > > Hi Andy! First of all, don't apologize for "stupid questions". They
> > > don't exist...
> > >
> > > Congrats on the TJ, you picked some good factory options.
> > >
> > > 1. All 3 of those are great lift kits. (Teraflex, OME, RE) Lift is
> > > subjective as far as height (i.e. what do you want and what will you
> > > need?) First of all, WHY ARE YOU LIFTING IT? Is 4" too much, or not
> > > enough? OME will give you 2.5" and is a superior suspension kit. Tera
> > > and RE both have excellent 3/4/4.5" kits. More info on intended
offroad
> > > use here would help.
> > ************************************************** ******
> > I live in Kentucky and have gone to both Land Between the Lakes and
> Tellico
> > in Murphy, NC. There are some real tough trails there and I couln't do
> some
> > of them without lift. I have a stock Jeep now. I have talked to many
> Jeep
> > owners and most say a quality lift kit will still ride as well as stock.
> I
> > drove a 2002 TJ with Terra Flex and it seemed to have great manners on
the
> > road. I suppose around 4" will suit me well.
> > > ************************************************** ****
> > > 2. Tire size is also subjective and inter-relates heavily with lift
> > > choice. More info on what you intend to do offroad. A 4" lift and 33s
go
> > > nicely, as do a 2.5 lift and 31 to possibly 32s. BFG ATs/MTs,
Goodyear
> > > MT/Rs are my choices. Remember, you might have to get some aftermarket
> > > wheels if you go much wider than 10.50 on the tire and disconnect your
> > > swaybar.
> > ************************************************** ****
> > I have factory 15" wheels now with 30" tires. Yuk, nice looking but not
> for
> > off road.. The trails here are muddy mostly, with some rocks and loose
> dirt.
> > Climbing a muddy hill is where I need the best tire. I will need to
> change
> > wheels for sure. 32's would be good. Can I go to 16" wheels or will I
> need
> > a body lift??
> > ************************************************** ****
> > >
> > > 3. Consider an ARB for a Jeep that gets a lot of road use. My Rubicon
> > > has a switchable locker and I really like having the option to
> > > engage/disengage it. I like Warn for winches, people have other
opinions
> > > as well. You should have recovery equipt. like ****** strap, tree
saver,
> > > ****** block, choker chain, tow strap, etc. and go have fun. Wheel
with
> > > someone else if at all possible!!
> > ************************************************** ***
> > Roger the wheel with someone else. I like ARB because I want an open
diff
> > for on road. Roger on Warn and all the supplies. I have some of these
> and
> > put them to good use. Question: has anybody gone to Big South Fork in
> > Tennessee? I was there and there is this one trail....
> > ************************************************** *******
> > >
> > > JMHO!
> >
> > You Bet!
> > >
> > > Andy wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi everybody,
> > > >
> > > > First off I want to introduce myself. I am Andy and I am an over
the
> > road
> > > > truck driver and I am semi retired. I'm getting home more often and
> > using
> > > > my Jeep off -road more and love it. I apologize for these stupid
> > questions
> > > > to you experts but here goes. I imagine this has been discussed
many
> > times
> > > > but I am new to the group. I love the knowledge here. Thanks!
> > > >
> > > > I have a 2001 TJ sport I purchased new. I got the Dana 44, 5
speed,
> > six
> > > > cylinder and 30 inch wheels. No track lock - wasn't offered in some
> > groups.
> > > > I believe it is a 3.73 ratio.
> > > >
> > > > 1. Lift kit. What is the best for a TJ? Terra Flex, Old Man Emu,
> > Rubicon.
> > > > I will use this Jeep on road, pulled behind my motorhome (with tow
> bar)
> > and
> > > > off road. It will be mostly driven on road. How many inches on the
> > > > suspension? I don't think I need a body lift?
> > > >
> > > > 2. Tires? What size and brand.
> > > >
> > > > 3. I was thinking of putting a locker in the Dana 44. Detroit
elec.?
> > > >
> > > > What else, except body protection, is needed for some medium off
road
> > use.
> > > > Winch, what brand?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in advance. I have the Jeep itch and so does my wife. We
love
> > our
> > > > Jeep. So far it runs just great and we have done some amazing
things
> > stock.
> > > > This is our third Jeep.
> > > >
> > > > Andy
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > __________________________________________________ _________
> > > tw
> > > 03 TJ Rubicon
> > > 01 XJ Sport
> > >
> > > There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> > > -- Dave Barry
> > >
> > > http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> > > (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> > > __________________________________________________ _________
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Andy

Mike,

What is a float trailer vice? I know a tow bar can do some damage if you
corner from a standstill and you can't back up. I try to go wide around
corners and never back up.

Andy

"Mike T" <cpl.taylor@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:71Ukb.2212$XO.326954@news20.bellglobal.com...
> dont know if its possible for you, but i would seriously consider a float
> trailer vice towing your TJ.
> "Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:yQTkb.837567$uu5.148294@sccrnsc04...
> > Thanks twaldron for your reply. My answers are below. Yes, I optioned
my
> > TJ with the hopes I would build it up some day. Thanks. We have seen
> > numerous Rubicon's on the trails and they walk up those muddy hills with
> > lockers. But we decided to take our 3 year old TJ and simply make it a
> > Rubicon. HA!
> >
> > "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> > news:u_Skb.189$Za1.148@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com. ..
> > > Hi Andy! First of all, don't apologize for "stupid questions". They
> > > don't exist...
> > >
> > > Congrats on the TJ, you picked some good factory options.
> > >
> > > 1. All 3 of those are great lift kits. (Teraflex, OME, RE) Lift is
> > > subjective as far as height (i.e. what do you want and what will you
> > > need?) First of all, WHY ARE YOU LIFTING IT? Is 4" too much, or not
> > > enough? OME will give you 2.5" and is a superior suspension kit. Tera
> > > and RE both have excellent 3/4/4.5" kits. More info on intended
offroad
> > > use here would help.
> > ************************************************** ******
> > I live in Kentucky and have gone to both Land Between the Lakes and
> Tellico
> > in Murphy, NC. There are some real tough trails there and I couln't do
> some
> > of them without lift. I have a stock Jeep now. I have talked to many
> Jeep
> > owners and most say a quality lift kit will still ride as well as stock.
> I
> > drove a 2002 TJ with Terra Flex and it seemed to have great manners on
the
> > road. I suppose around 4" will suit me well.
> > > ************************************************** ****
> > > 2. Tire size is also subjective and inter-relates heavily with lift
> > > choice. More info on what you intend to do offroad. A 4" lift and 33s
go
> > > nicely, as do a 2.5 lift and 31 to possibly 32s. BFG ATs/MTs,
Goodyear
> > > MT/Rs are my choices. Remember, you might have to get some aftermarket
> > > wheels if you go much wider than 10.50 on the tire and disconnect your
> > > swaybar.
> > ************************************************** ****
> > I have factory 15" wheels now with 30" tires. Yuk, nice looking but not
> for
> > off road.. The trails here are muddy mostly, with some rocks and loose
> dirt.
> > Climbing a muddy hill is where I need the best tire. I will need to
> change
> > wheels for sure. 32's would be good. Can I go to 16" wheels or will I
> need
> > a body lift??
> > ************************************************** ****
> > >
> > > 3. Consider an ARB for a Jeep that gets a lot of road use. My Rubicon
> > > has a switchable locker and I really like having the option to
> > > engage/disengage it. I like Warn for winches, people have other
opinions
> > > as well. You should have recovery equipt. like ****** strap, tree
saver,
> > > ****** block, choker chain, tow strap, etc. and go have fun. Wheel
with
> > > someone else if at all possible!!
> > ************************************************** ***
> > Roger the wheel with someone else. I like ARB because I want an open
diff
> > for on road. Roger on Warn and all the supplies. I have some of these
> and
> > put them to good use. Question: has anybody gone to Big South Fork in
> > Tennessee? I was there and there is this one trail....
> > ************************************************** *******
> > >
> > > JMHO!
> >
> > You Bet!
> > >
> > > Andy wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi everybody,
> > > >
> > > > First off I want to introduce myself. I am Andy and I am an over
the
> > road
> > > > truck driver and I am semi retired. I'm getting home more often and
> > using
> > > > my Jeep off -road more and love it. I apologize for these stupid
> > questions
> > > > to you experts but here goes. I imagine this has been discussed
many
> > times
> > > > but I am new to the group. I love the knowledge here. Thanks!
> > > >
> > > > I have a 2001 TJ sport I purchased new. I got the Dana 44, 5
speed,
> > six
> > > > cylinder and 30 inch wheels. No track lock - wasn't offered in some
> > groups.
> > > > I believe it is a 3.73 ratio.
> > > >
> > > > 1. Lift kit. What is the best for a TJ? Terra Flex, Old Man Emu,
> > Rubicon.
> > > > I will use this Jeep on road, pulled behind my motorhome (with tow
> bar)
> > and
> > > > off road. It will be mostly driven on road. How many inches on the
> > > > suspension? I don't think I need a body lift?
> > > >
> > > > 2. Tires? What size and brand.
> > > >
> > > > 3. I was thinking of putting a locker in the Dana 44. Detroit
elec.?
> > > >
> > > > What else, except body protection, is needed for some medium off
road
> > use.
> > > > Winch, what brand?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in advance. I have the Jeep itch and so does my wife. We
love
> > our
> > > > Jeep. So far it runs just great and we have done some amazing
things
> > stock.
> > > > This is our third Jeep.
> > > >
> > > > Andy
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > __________________________________________________ _________
> > > tw
> > > 03 TJ Rubicon
> > > 01 XJ Sport
> > >
> > > There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> > > -- Dave Barry
> > >
> > > http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> > > (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> > > __________________________________________________ _________
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Andy

Mike,

What is a float trailer vice? I know a tow bar can do some damage if you
corner from a standstill and you can't back up. I try to go wide around
corners and never back up.

Andy

"Mike T" <cpl.taylor@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:71Ukb.2212$XO.326954@news20.bellglobal.com...
> dont know if its possible for you, but i would seriously consider a float
> trailer vice towing your TJ.
> "Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:yQTkb.837567$uu5.148294@sccrnsc04...
> > Thanks twaldron for your reply. My answers are below. Yes, I optioned
my
> > TJ with the hopes I would build it up some day. Thanks. We have seen
> > numerous Rubicon's on the trails and they walk up those muddy hills with
> > lockers. But we decided to take our 3 year old TJ and simply make it a
> > Rubicon. HA!
> >
> > "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> > news:u_Skb.189$Za1.148@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com. ..
> > > Hi Andy! First of all, don't apologize for "stupid questions". They
> > > don't exist...
> > >
> > > Congrats on the TJ, you picked some good factory options.
> > >
> > > 1. All 3 of those are great lift kits. (Teraflex, OME, RE) Lift is
> > > subjective as far as height (i.e. what do you want and what will you
> > > need?) First of all, WHY ARE YOU LIFTING IT? Is 4" too much, or not
> > > enough? OME will give you 2.5" and is a superior suspension kit. Tera
> > > and RE both have excellent 3/4/4.5" kits. More info on intended
offroad
> > > use here would help.
> > ************************************************** ******
> > I live in Kentucky and have gone to both Land Between the Lakes and
> Tellico
> > in Murphy, NC. There are some real tough trails there and I couln't do
> some
> > of them without lift. I have a stock Jeep now. I have talked to many
> Jeep
> > owners and most say a quality lift kit will still ride as well as stock.
> I
> > drove a 2002 TJ with Terra Flex and it seemed to have great manners on
the
> > road. I suppose around 4" will suit me well.
> > > ************************************************** ****
> > > 2. Tire size is also subjective and inter-relates heavily with lift
> > > choice. More info on what you intend to do offroad. A 4" lift and 33s
go
> > > nicely, as do a 2.5 lift and 31 to possibly 32s. BFG ATs/MTs,
Goodyear
> > > MT/Rs are my choices. Remember, you might have to get some aftermarket
> > > wheels if you go much wider than 10.50 on the tire and disconnect your
> > > swaybar.
> > ************************************************** ****
> > I have factory 15" wheels now with 30" tires. Yuk, nice looking but not
> for
> > off road.. The trails here are muddy mostly, with some rocks and loose
> dirt.
> > Climbing a muddy hill is where I need the best tire. I will need to
> change
> > wheels for sure. 32's would be good. Can I go to 16" wheels or will I
> need
> > a body lift??
> > ************************************************** ****
> > >
> > > 3. Consider an ARB for a Jeep that gets a lot of road use. My Rubicon
> > > has a switchable locker and I really like having the option to
> > > engage/disengage it. I like Warn for winches, people have other
opinions
> > > as well. You should have recovery equipt. like ****** strap, tree
saver,
> > > ****** block, choker chain, tow strap, etc. and go have fun. Wheel
with
> > > someone else if at all possible!!
> > ************************************************** ***
> > Roger the wheel with someone else. I like ARB because I want an open
diff
> > for on road. Roger on Warn and all the supplies. I have some of these
> and
> > put them to good use. Question: has anybody gone to Big South Fork in
> > Tennessee? I was there and there is this one trail....
> > ************************************************** *******
> > >
> > > JMHO!
> >
> > You Bet!
> > >
> > > Andy wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi everybody,
> > > >
> > > > First off I want to introduce myself. I am Andy and I am an over
the
> > road
> > > > truck driver and I am semi retired. I'm getting home more often and
> > using
> > > > my Jeep off -road more and love it. I apologize for these stupid
> > questions
> > > > to you experts but here goes. I imagine this has been discussed
many
> > times
> > > > but I am new to the group. I love the knowledge here. Thanks!
> > > >
> > > > I have a 2001 TJ sport I purchased new. I got the Dana 44, 5
speed,
> > six
> > > > cylinder and 30 inch wheels. No track lock - wasn't offered in some
> > groups.
> > > > I believe it is a 3.73 ratio.
> > > >
> > > > 1. Lift kit. What is the best for a TJ? Terra Flex, Old Man Emu,
> > Rubicon.
> > > > I will use this Jeep on road, pulled behind my motorhome (with tow
> bar)
> > and
> > > > off road. It will be mostly driven on road. How many inches on the
> > > > suspension? I don't think I need a body lift?
> > > >
> > > > 2. Tires? What size and brand.
> > > >
> > > > 3. I was thinking of putting a locker in the Dana 44. Detroit
elec.?
> > > >
> > > > What else, except body protection, is needed for some medium off
road
> > use.
> > > > Winch, what brand?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in advance. I have the Jeep itch and so does my wife. We
love
> > our
> > > > Jeep. So far it runs just great and we have done some amazing
things
> > stock.
> > > > This is our third Jeep.
> > > >
> > > > Andy
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > __________________________________________________ _________
> > > tw
> > > 03 TJ Rubicon
> > > 01 XJ Sport
> > >
> > > There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> > > -- Dave Barry
> > >
> > > http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> > > (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> > > __________________________________________________ _________
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

Hi Andy,
Float is another name for flat bed, used in the southern states
that also use barrages. The car trailer is a good idea, I'd get one
except storage becomes a bigger problem than just flat towing.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Andy wrote:
>
> Mike,
>
> What is a float trailer vice? I know a tow bar can do some damage if you
> corner from a standstill and you can't back up. I try to go wide around
> corners and never back up.
>
> Andy

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

Hi Andy,
Float is another name for flat bed, used in the southern states
that also use barrages. The car trailer is a good idea, I'd get one
except storage becomes a bigger problem than just flat towing.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Andy wrote:
>
> Mike,
>
> What is a float trailer vice? I know a tow bar can do some damage if you
> corner from a standstill and you can't back up. I try to go wide around
> corners and never back up.
>
> Andy

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

Hi Andy,
Float is another name for flat bed, used in the southern states
that also use barrages. The car trailer is a good idea, I'd get one
except storage becomes a bigger problem than just flat towing.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Andy wrote:
>
> Mike,
>
> What is a float trailer vice? I know a tow bar can do some damage if you
> corner from a standstill and you can't back up. I try to go wide around
> corners and never back up.
>
> Andy

Andy

Thanks Bill,

Yes,
I have seen most everyone that transports their Jeeps do it on some kind of
trailer. What are the problems encountered with flat towing? Am I going to
be in trouble?

Thanks

Andy


"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3F9469DA.6EE9B740@***.net...
> Hi Andy,
> Float is another name for flat bed, used in the southern states
> that also use barrages. The car trailer is a good idea, I'd get one
> except storage becomes a bigger problem than just flat towing.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Andy wrote:
> >
> > Mike,
> >
> > What is a float trailer vice? I know a tow bar can do some damage if
you
> > corner from a standstill and you can't back up. I try to go wide around
> > corners and never back up.
> >
> > Andy

Andy

Thanks Bill,

Yes,
I have seen most everyone that transports their Jeeps do it on some kind of
trailer. What are the problems encountered with flat towing? Am I going to
be in trouble?

Thanks

Andy


"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3F9469DA.6EE9B740@***.net...
> Hi Andy,
> Float is another name for flat bed, used in the southern states
> that also use barrages. The car trailer is a good idea, I'd get one
> except storage becomes a bigger problem than just flat towing.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Andy wrote:
> >
> > Mike,
> >
> > What is a float trailer vice? I know a tow bar can do some damage if
you
> > corner from a standstill and you can't back up. I try to go wide around
> > corners and never back up.
> >
> > Andy