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Andy 11-06-2003 09:19 PM

Re: 2001 TJ Front Differential
 
Hey Jerry, good explanation! Thanks.

I get conflicting information from even the companies that sell limited slip
and lockers. I was trying to think of a good setup for front and back. I
like manual hubs just for mileage, wear and flat towing like I do. I'm one
of those that drives on -road long distances in the Jeep and then want it to
take on aggressive trails off- road. Maybe an ARB in the rear and limited
slip in the front.

Thanks

Andy


"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
news:fBCqb.20030$PD2.8063@fed1read05...
> Contrary to what a certain non-TJ owner has told you, you absolutely...
> absolutely... cannot tell a locker or limited slip differential is in the
> front Dana 30 axle when you're in 2wd. Without manual hubs, I first had a
> limited slip differential in my front Dana 30 and it was totally

transparent
> in 2wd, you could not tell it was there. Then, again without manual hubs,

I
> installed a Powertrax locker in my front Dana 30. Again, in 2wd, I could
> not detect its presence. Finally, I installed Warn manual hubs on the

front
> axle about six months ago and I run around with them unlocked. There is no
> difference in how my front locker feels between when the front hubs are
> locked vs. unlocked.
>
> The reason for this is because when you're in 2wd, there is no torque

being
> sent to the front locker and automatic lockers require torque to firmly

lock
> them up. Yes automatic lockers are normally locked... but without torque

to
> hold them FIRMLY locked as would happen in 4wd, they unlock so easily to

go
> around corners etc. when the TJ is in 2wd that they don't bind at all

like
> some people erroneously think they do. With manual hubs or without manual
> hubs.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
>
> "Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ZUyqb.131454$Fm2.108362@attbi_s04...
> > Hi everyone. I was out West (OTR) delivering auto parts during the wild
> > fires. Terrible.
> >
> > Home again for a few days and thinking about my TJ build up again. What

> was
> > standard for the Front differential in 2001. I have a Dana 44 in the

> rear.
> > Is it the Dana 30?
> >
> > Secondly, TJ's front differentials spin all the time. I'm thinking

this
> > will not work well with a limited slip or automatic locker (On road
> > handling) , so ARB is about the only choice?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Andy
> >
> >

>
>




Andy 11-06-2003 09:19 PM

Re: 2001 TJ Front Differential
 
Hey Jerry, good explanation! Thanks.

I get conflicting information from even the companies that sell limited slip
and lockers. I was trying to think of a good setup for front and back. I
like manual hubs just for mileage, wear and flat towing like I do. I'm one
of those that drives on -road long distances in the Jeep and then want it to
take on aggressive trails off- road. Maybe an ARB in the rear and limited
slip in the front.

Thanks

Andy


"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
news:fBCqb.20030$PD2.8063@fed1read05...
> Contrary to what a certain non-TJ owner has told you, you absolutely...
> absolutely... cannot tell a locker or limited slip differential is in the
> front Dana 30 axle when you're in 2wd. Without manual hubs, I first had a
> limited slip differential in my front Dana 30 and it was totally

transparent
> in 2wd, you could not tell it was there. Then, again without manual hubs,

I
> installed a Powertrax locker in my front Dana 30. Again, in 2wd, I could
> not detect its presence. Finally, I installed Warn manual hubs on the

front
> axle about six months ago and I run around with them unlocked. There is no
> difference in how my front locker feels between when the front hubs are
> locked vs. unlocked.
>
> The reason for this is because when you're in 2wd, there is no torque

being
> sent to the front locker and automatic lockers require torque to firmly

lock
> them up. Yes automatic lockers are normally locked... but without torque

to
> hold them FIRMLY locked as would happen in 4wd, they unlock so easily to

go
> around corners etc. when the TJ is in 2wd that they don't bind at all

like
> some people erroneously think they do. With manual hubs or without manual
> hubs.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
>
> "Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ZUyqb.131454$Fm2.108362@attbi_s04...
> > Hi everyone. I was out West (OTR) delivering auto parts during the wild
> > fires. Terrible.
> >
> > Home again for a few days and thinking about my TJ build up again. What

> was
> > standard for the Front differential in 2001. I have a Dana 44 in the

> rear.
> > Is it the Dana 30?
> >
> > Secondly, TJ's front differentials spin all the time. I'm thinking

this
> > will not work well with a limited slip or automatic locker (On road
> > handling) , so ARB is about the only choice?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Andy
> >
> >

>
>




Andy 11-06-2003 09:26 PM

Re: 2001 TJ Front Differential
 
Yep, I understand now. Maybe it's I wanna a Rubicon Jeep syndrome that's
come over me! LOL


"JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> wrote in message
news:ohDqb.7474$4O4.3157@news02.roc.ny...
> Hey Andy,
> Thinking is good, but not this time :-) ARB is not the answer to
> everything, especially for the front. Just take it out of

four-wheel-drive!
> Front locker... gone (any brand), transparent!
>
> --
> JimG
> 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
>
>
> "Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ZUyqb.131454$Fm2.108362@attbi_s04...
> > Hi everyone. I was out West (OTR) delivering auto parts during the wild
> > fires. Terrible.
> >
> > Home again for a few days and thinking about my TJ build up again. What

> was
> > standard for the Front differential in 2001. I have a Dana 44 in the

> rear.
> > Is it the Dana 30?
> >
> > Secondly, TJ's front differentials spin all the time. I'm thinking

this
> > will not work well with a limited slip or automatic locker (On road
> > handling) , so ARB is about the only choice?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Andy
> >
> >

>
>




Andy 11-06-2003 09:26 PM

Re: 2001 TJ Front Differential
 
Yep, I understand now. Maybe it's I wanna a Rubicon Jeep syndrome that's
come over me! LOL


"JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> wrote in message
news:ohDqb.7474$4O4.3157@news02.roc.ny...
> Hey Andy,
> Thinking is good, but not this time :-) ARB is not the answer to
> everything, especially for the front. Just take it out of

four-wheel-drive!
> Front locker... gone (any brand), transparent!
>
> --
> JimG
> 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
>
>
> "Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ZUyqb.131454$Fm2.108362@attbi_s04...
> > Hi everyone. I was out West (OTR) delivering auto parts during the wild
> > fires. Terrible.
> >
> > Home again for a few days and thinking about my TJ build up again. What

> was
> > standard for the Front differential in 2001. I have a Dana 44 in the

> rear.
> > Is it the Dana 30?
> >
> > Secondly, TJ's front differentials spin all the time. I'm thinking

this
> > will not work well with a limited slip or automatic locker (On road
> > handling) , so ARB is about the only choice?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Andy
> >
> >

>
>




Andy 11-06-2003 09:26 PM

Re: 2001 TJ Front Differential
 
Yep, I understand now. Maybe it's I wanna a Rubicon Jeep syndrome that's
come over me! LOL


"JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> wrote in message
news:ohDqb.7474$4O4.3157@news02.roc.ny...
> Hey Andy,
> Thinking is good, but not this time :-) ARB is not the answer to
> everything, especially for the front. Just take it out of

four-wheel-drive!
> Front locker... gone (any brand), transparent!
>
> --
> JimG
> 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
>
>
> "Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ZUyqb.131454$Fm2.108362@attbi_s04...
> > Hi everyone. I was out West (OTR) delivering auto parts during the wild
> > fires. Terrible.
> >
> > Home again for a few days and thinking about my TJ build up again. What

> was
> > standard for the Front differential in 2001. I have a Dana 44 in the

> rear.
> > Is it the Dana 30?
> >
> > Secondly, TJ's front differentials spin all the time. I'm thinking

this
> > will not work well with a limited slip or automatic locker (On road
> > handling) , so ARB is about the only choice?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Andy
> >
> >

>
>




Jerry Bransford 11-06-2003 09:27 PM

Re: 2001 TJ Front Differential
 
Andy, I must not have explained the front axle that well... there's no
benefit to installing a front limited slip differential up front over an
automatic locker unless you wheel on off-camber (sloping to the side) icy or
mud-covered trails. For most wheeling, a front-locker has significant
benefits over a front limited slip differential. I've had both in my front
axle and only installed the front LSD for a few years by erroneously
thinking a front-mounted locker would be a bad decision for my TJ. The
front-locker I have up front now may as well not even be there until I shift
into 4wd.

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

"Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:siDqb.134272$e01.451720@attbi_s02...
> Hey Jerry, good explanation! Thanks.
>
> I get conflicting information from even the companies that sell limited

slip
> and lockers. I was trying to think of a good setup for front and back. I
> like manual hubs just for mileage, wear and flat towing like I do. I'm

one
> of those that drives on -road long distances in the Jeep and then want it

to
> take on aggressive trails off- road. Maybe an ARB in the rear and limited
> slip in the front.
>
> Thanks
>
> Andy
>
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
> news:fBCqb.20030$PD2.8063@fed1read05...
> > Contrary to what a certain non-TJ owner has told you, you absolutely...
> > absolutely... cannot tell a locker or limited slip differential is in

the
> > front Dana 30 axle when you're in 2wd. Without manual hubs, I first had

a
> > limited slip differential in my front Dana 30 and it was totally

> transparent
> > in 2wd, you could not tell it was there. Then, again without manual

hubs,
> I
> > installed a Powertrax locker in my front Dana 30. Again, in 2wd, I

could
> > not detect its presence. Finally, I installed Warn manual hubs on the

> front
> > axle about six months ago and I run around with them unlocked. There is

no
> > difference in how my front locker feels between when the front hubs are
> > locked vs. unlocked.
> >
> > The reason for this is because when you're in 2wd, there is no torque

> being
> > sent to the front locker and automatic lockers require torque to firmly

> lock
> > them up. Yes automatic lockers are normally locked... but without

torque
> to
> > hold them FIRMLY locked as would happen in 4wd, they unlock so easily to

> go
> > around corners etc. when the TJ is in 2wd that they don't bind at all

> like
> > some people erroneously think they do. With manual hubs or without

manual
> > hubs.
> >
> > Jerry
> > --
> > Jerry Bransford
> > To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> > KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
> >
> > "Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:ZUyqb.131454$Fm2.108362@attbi_s04...
> > > Hi everyone. I was out West (OTR) delivering auto parts during the

wild
> > > fires. Terrible.
> > >
> > > Home again for a few days and thinking about my TJ build up again.

What
> > was
> > > standard for the Front differential in 2001. I have a Dana 44 in the

> > rear.
> > > Is it the Dana 30?
> > >
> > > Secondly, TJ's front differentials spin all the time. I'm thinking

> this
> > > will not work well with a limited slip or automatic locker (On road
> > > handling) , so ARB is about the only choice?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Andy
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>




Jerry Bransford 11-06-2003 09:27 PM

Re: 2001 TJ Front Differential
 
Andy, I must not have explained the front axle that well... there's no
benefit to installing a front limited slip differential up front over an
automatic locker unless you wheel on off-camber (sloping to the side) icy or
mud-covered trails. For most wheeling, a front-locker has significant
benefits over a front limited slip differential. I've had both in my front
axle and only installed the front LSD for a few years by erroneously
thinking a front-mounted locker would be a bad decision for my TJ. The
front-locker I have up front now may as well not even be there until I shift
into 4wd.

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

"Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:siDqb.134272$e01.451720@attbi_s02...
> Hey Jerry, good explanation! Thanks.
>
> I get conflicting information from even the companies that sell limited

slip
> and lockers. I was trying to think of a good setup for front and back. I
> like manual hubs just for mileage, wear and flat towing like I do. I'm

one
> of those that drives on -road long distances in the Jeep and then want it

to
> take on aggressive trails off- road. Maybe an ARB in the rear and limited
> slip in the front.
>
> Thanks
>
> Andy
>
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
> news:fBCqb.20030$PD2.8063@fed1read05...
> > Contrary to what a certain non-TJ owner has told you, you absolutely...
> > absolutely... cannot tell a locker or limited slip differential is in

the
> > front Dana 30 axle when you're in 2wd. Without manual hubs, I first had

a
> > limited slip differential in my front Dana 30 and it was totally

> transparent
> > in 2wd, you could not tell it was there. Then, again without manual

hubs,
> I
> > installed a Powertrax locker in my front Dana 30. Again, in 2wd, I

could
> > not detect its presence. Finally, I installed Warn manual hubs on the

> front
> > axle about six months ago and I run around with them unlocked. There is

no
> > difference in how my front locker feels between when the front hubs are
> > locked vs. unlocked.
> >
> > The reason for this is because when you're in 2wd, there is no torque

> being
> > sent to the front locker and automatic lockers require torque to firmly

> lock
> > them up. Yes automatic lockers are normally locked... but without

torque
> to
> > hold them FIRMLY locked as would happen in 4wd, they unlock so easily to

> go
> > around corners etc. when the TJ is in 2wd that they don't bind at all

> like
> > some people erroneously think they do. With manual hubs or without

manual
> > hubs.
> >
> > Jerry
> > --
> > Jerry Bransford
> > To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> > KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
> >
> > "Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:ZUyqb.131454$Fm2.108362@attbi_s04...
> > > Hi everyone. I was out West (OTR) delivering auto parts during the

wild
> > > fires. Terrible.
> > >
> > > Home again for a few days and thinking about my TJ build up again.

What
> > was
> > > standard for the Front differential in 2001. I have a Dana 44 in the

> > rear.
> > > Is it the Dana 30?
> > >
> > > Secondly, TJ's front differentials spin all the time. I'm thinking

> this
> > > will not work well with a limited slip or automatic locker (On road
> > > handling) , so ARB is about the only choice?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Andy
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>




Jerry Bransford 11-06-2003 09:27 PM

Re: 2001 TJ Front Differential
 
Andy, I must not have explained the front axle that well... there's no
benefit to installing a front limited slip differential up front over an
automatic locker unless you wheel on off-camber (sloping to the side) icy or
mud-covered trails. For most wheeling, a front-locker has significant
benefits over a front limited slip differential. I've had both in my front
axle and only installed the front LSD for a few years by erroneously
thinking a front-mounted locker would be a bad decision for my TJ. The
front-locker I have up front now may as well not even be there until I shift
into 4wd.

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

"Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:siDqb.134272$e01.451720@attbi_s02...
> Hey Jerry, good explanation! Thanks.
>
> I get conflicting information from even the companies that sell limited

slip
> and lockers. I was trying to think of a good setup for front and back. I
> like manual hubs just for mileage, wear and flat towing like I do. I'm

one
> of those that drives on -road long distances in the Jeep and then want it

to
> take on aggressive trails off- road. Maybe an ARB in the rear and limited
> slip in the front.
>
> Thanks
>
> Andy
>
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
> news:fBCqb.20030$PD2.8063@fed1read05...
> > Contrary to what a certain non-TJ owner has told you, you absolutely...
> > absolutely... cannot tell a locker or limited slip differential is in

the
> > front Dana 30 axle when you're in 2wd. Without manual hubs, I first had

a
> > limited slip differential in my front Dana 30 and it was totally

> transparent
> > in 2wd, you could not tell it was there. Then, again without manual

hubs,
> I
> > installed a Powertrax locker in my front Dana 30. Again, in 2wd, I

could
> > not detect its presence. Finally, I installed Warn manual hubs on the

> front
> > axle about six months ago and I run around with them unlocked. There is

no
> > difference in how my front locker feels between when the front hubs are
> > locked vs. unlocked.
> >
> > The reason for this is because when you're in 2wd, there is no torque

> being
> > sent to the front locker and automatic lockers require torque to firmly

> lock
> > them up. Yes automatic lockers are normally locked... but without

torque
> to
> > hold them FIRMLY locked as would happen in 4wd, they unlock so easily to

> go
> > around corners etc. when the TJ is in 2wd that they don't bind at all

> like
> > some people erroneously think they do. With manual hubs or without

manual
> > hubs.
> >
> > Jerry
> > --
> > Jerry Bransford
> > To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> > KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
> >
> > "Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:ZUyqb.131454$Fm2.108362@attbi_s04...
> > > Hi everyone. I was out West (OTR) delivering auto parts during the

wild
> > > fires. Terrible.
> > >
> > > Home again for a few days and thinking about my TJ build up again.

What
> > was
> > > standard for the Front differential in 2001. I have a Dana 44 in the

> > rear.
> > > Is it the Dana 30?
> > >
> > > Secondly, TJ's front differentials spin all the time. I'm thinking

> this
> > > will not work well with a limited slip or automatic locker (On road
> > > handling) , so ARB is about the only choice?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Andy
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>




Andy 11-06-2003 09:48 PM

Re: 2001 TJ Front Differential
 
Jerry, OK.. Thanks again. I appreciate it.

"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
news:GqDqb.20343$PD2.15283@fed1read05...
> Andy, I must not have explained the front axle that well... there's no
> benefit to installing a front limited slip differential up front over an
> automatic locker unless you wheel on off-camber (sloping to the side) icy

or
> mud-covered trails. For most wheeling, a front-locker has significant
> benefits over a front limited slip differential. I've had both in my

front
> axle and only installed the front LSD for a few years by erroneously
> thinking a front-mounted locker would be a bad decision for my TJ. The
> front-locker I have up front now may as well not even be there until I

shift
> into 4wd.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
>
> "Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:siDqb.134272$e01.451720@attbi_s02...
> > Hey Jerry, good explanation! Thanks.
> >
> > I get conflicting information from even the companies that sell limited

> slip
> > and lockers. I was trying to think of a good setup for front and back.

I
> > like manual hubs just for mileage, wear and flat towing like I do. I'm

> one
> > of those that drives on -road long distances in the Jeep and then want

it
> to
> > take on aggressive trails off- road. Maybe an ARB in the rear and

limited
> > slip in the front.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Andy
> >
> >
> > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
> > news:fBCqb.20030$PD2.8063@fed1read05...
> > > Contrary to what a certain non-TJ owner has told you, you

absolutely...
> > > absolutely... cannot tell a locker or limited slip differential is in

> the
> > > front Dana 30 axle when you're in 2wd. Without manual hubs, I first

had
> a
> > > limited slip differential in my front Dana 30 and it was totally

> > transparent
> > > in 2wd, you could not tell it was there. Then, again without manual

> hubs,
> > I
> > > installed a Powertrax locker in my front Dana 30. Again, in 2wd, I

> could
> > > not detect its presence. Finally, I installed Warn manual hubs on the

> > front
> > > axle about six months ago and I run around with them unlocked. There

is
> no
> > > difference in how my front locker feels between when the front hubs

are
> > > locked vs. unlocked.
> > >
> > > The reason for this is because when you're in 2wd, there is no torque

> > being
> > > sent to the front locker and automatic lockers require torque to

firmly
> > lock
> > > them up. Yes automatic lockers are normally locked... but without

> torque
> > to
> > > hold them FIRMLY locked as would happen in 4wd, they unlock so easily

to
> > go
> > > around corners etc. when the TJ is in 2wd that they don't bind at all

> > like
> > > some people erroneously think they do. With manual hubs or without

> manual
> > > hubs.
> > >
> > > Jerry
> > > --
> > > Jerry Bransford
> > > To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> > > KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> > > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
> > >
> > > "Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:ZUyqb.131454$Fm2.108362@attbi_s04...
> > > > Hi everyone. I was out West (OTR) delivering auto parts during the

> wild
> > > > fires. Terrible.
> > > >
> > > > Home again for a few days and thinking about my TJ build up again.

> What
> > > was
> > > > standard for the Front differential in 2001. I have a Dana 44 in

the
> > > rear.
> > > > Is it the Dana 30?
> > > >
> > > > Secondly, TJ's front differentials spin all the time. I'm

thinking
> > this
> > > > will not work well with a limited slip or automatic locker (On road
> > > > handling) , so ARB is about the only choice?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > Andy
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>




Andy 11-06-2003 09:48 PM

Re: 2001 TJ Front Differential
 
Jerry, OK.. Thanks again. I appreciate it.

"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
news:GqDqb.20343$PD2.15283@fed1read05...
> Andy, I must not have explained the front axle that well... there's no
> benefit to installing a front limited slip differential up front over an
> automatic locker unless you wheel on off-camber (sloping to the side) icy

or
> mud-covered trails. For most wheeling, a front-locker has significant
> benefits over a front limited slip differential. I've had both in my

front
> axle and only installed the front LSD for a few years by erroneously
> thinking a front-mounted locker would be a bad decision for my TJ. The
> front-locker I have up front now may as well not even be there until I

shift
> into 4wd.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
>
> "Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:siDqb.134272$e01.451720@attbi_s02...
> > Hey Jerry, good explanation! Thanks.
> >
> > I get conflicting information from even the companies that sell limited

> slip
> > and lockers. I was trying to think of a good setup for front and back.

I
> > like manual hubs just for mileage, wear and flat towing like I do. I'm

> one
> > of those that drives on -road long distances in the Jeep and then want

it
> to
> > take on aggressive trails off- road. Maybe an ARB in the rear and

limited
> > slip in the front.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Andy
> >
> >
> > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
> > news:fBCqb.20030$PD2.8063@fed1read05...
> > > Contrary to what a certain non-TJ owner has told you, you

absolutely...
> > > absolutely... cannot tell a locker or limited slip differential is in

> the
> > > front Dana 30 axle when you're in 2wd. Without manual hubs, I first

had
> a
> > > limited slip differential in my front Dana 30 and it was totally

> > transparent
> > > in 2wd, you could not tell it was there. Then, again without manual

> hubs,
> > I
> > > installed a Powertrax locker in my front Dana 30. Again, in 2wd, I

> could
> > > not detect its presence. Finally, I installed Warn manual hubs on the

> > front
> > > axle about six months ago and I run around with them unlocked. There

is
> no
> > > difference in how my front locker feels between when the front hubs

are
> > > locked vs. unlocked.
> > >
> > > The reason for this is because when you're in 2wd, there is no torque

> > being
> > > sent to the front locker and automatic lockers require torque to

firmly
> > lock
> > > them up. Yes automatic lockers are normally locked... but without

> torque
> > to
> > > hold them FIRMLY locked as would happen in 4wd, they unlock so easily

to
> > go
> > > around corners etc. when the TJ is in 2wd that they don't bind at all

> > like
> > > some people erroneously think they do. With manual hubs or without

> manual
> > > hubs.
> > >
> > > Jerry
> > > --
> > > Jerry Bransford
> > > To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> > > KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> > > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
> > >
> > > "Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:ZUyqb.131454$Fm2.108362@attbi_s04...
> > > > Hi everyone. I was out West (OTR) delivering auto parts during the

> wild
> > > > fires. Terrible.
> > > >
> > > > Home again for a few days and thinking about my TJ build up again.

> What
> > > was
> > > > standard for the Front differential in 2001. I have a Dana 44 in

the
> > > rear.
> > > > Is it the Dana 30?
> > > >
> > > > Secondly, TJ's front differentials spin all the time. I'm

thinking
> > this
> > > > will not work well with a limited slip or automatic locker (On road
> > > > handling) , so ARB is about the only choice?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > Andy
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>





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