2001 TJ Front Differential
11-09-2003, 02:12 PM
#121
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Re: 2001 TJ Front Differential
Hi Gerald,
And was it an EZ Locker, which kind of tells us never to use it
seriously? If it had Real springs holding the cogs together as in
Detroit Locker: http://www.----------.com/DetroitLocker.jpg Also you had
it in a YJ with the passenger axle normally unlocked, I can see many
problems dragging the driveshaft with the one axle. I would guess they
would be dangerous to the inexperienced.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
"Gerald G. McGeorge" wrote:
>
> No, it was a relatively new vehicle and they were fine. The locker was
> installed properly and works as intended.
And was it an EZ Locker, which kind of tells us never to use it
seriously? If it had Real springs holding the cogs together as in
Detroit Locker: http://www.----------.com/DetroitLocker.jpg Also you had
it in a YJ with the passenger axle normally unlocked, I can see many
problems dragging the driveshaft with the one axle. I would guess they
would be dangerous to the inexperienced.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
"Gerald G. McGeorge" wrote:
>
> No, it was a relatively new vehicle and they were fine. The locker was
> installed properly and works as intended.
11-10-2003, 12:56 PM
#122
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Posts: n/a
Re: 2001 TJ Front Differential
Then something is wrong with it. I have driven my CJ on the street for most
of 6 years, and I can't remember the last time the hubs were not locked. The
hubs locked on a CJ is the exact same condition as a TJ from the factory.
There _could_ be issues relative to snow and ice and getting into a parking
spot, but I don't know about that from any experience I have had. My
experience is that there are absolutely no issues in 2WD with a locker
equipped front axle.
"Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorgenospam@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:boh9ve028gh@enews1.newsguy.com...
> Sorry to butt in, if you put a locker in the front, unless you install a
> manual hub kit I'd advise you to do an ARB or Electrac which you can
> disengage. Having driven only one TJ with a fully locked (Lock-Rite) front
> end on the street my experience is limited, but I was not impressed with
the
> on-road characteristics.
>
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:vqo9bf5omaod90@corp.supernews.com...
> > Get yourself a locker for the front, it is the best traction device you
> will
> > find.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:f7Vqb.103249$9E1.493742@attbi_s52...
> > > So you are saying you live in a paradise? I'm not planning to get
> manual
> > > hubs any time soon. I'm just toying with the idea of stuffing
something
> > > into the front to make it a little better off road. Thanks for your
> > reply.
> > >
> > > Andy
> > >
> > > "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > news:vqnkcm40bbjq7e@corp.supernews.com...
> > > > I have a CJ with a front locker, and I have not unlocked my hubs in
> > > several
> > > > years. Basically, the CJ with the hubs locked is the same as the TJ
> all
> > > the
> > > > time. I have no steering issues at all, but at sea level within 20
> miles
> > > of
> > > > the ocean in Southern California, I have no weather related issues
> > anyway
> > > > for about 300 days a year. And when I do have weather related
issues,
> it
> > > is
> > > > either too damn hot to go outside, or it is raining. Of these two,
the
> > > rain
> > > > is a more severe problem, and it is not problem at all for the
locker.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:ZUyqb.131454$Fm2.108362@attbi_s04...
> > > > > Hi everyone. I was out West (OTR) delivering auto parts during
the
> > wild
> > > > > fires. Terrible.
> > > > >
> > > > > Home again for a few days and thinking about my TJ build up again.
> > What
> > > > was
> > > > > standard for the Front differential in 2001. I have a Dana 44 in
> the
> > > > rear.
> > > > > Is it the Dana 30?
> > > > >
> > > > > Secondly, TJ's front differentials spin all the time. I'm
> thinking
> > > this
> > > > > will not work well with a limited slip or automatic locker (On
road
> > > > > handling) , so ARB is about the only choice?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > >
> > > > > Andy
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
of 6 years, and I can't remember the last time the hubs were not locked. The
hubs locked on a CJ is the exact same condition as a TJ from the factory.
There _could_ be issues relative to snow and ice and getting into a parking
spot, but I don't know about that from any experience I have had. My
experience is that there are absolutely no issues in 2WD with a locker
equipped front axle.
"Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorgenospam@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:boh9ve028gh@enews1.newsguy.com...
> Sorry to butt in, if you put a locker in the front, unless you install a
> manual hub kit I'd advise you to do an ARB or Electrac which you can
> disengage. Having driven only one TJ with a fully locked (Lock-Rite) front
> end on the street my experience is limited, but I was not impressed with
the
> on-road characteristics.
>
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:vqo9bf5omaod90@corp.supernews.com...
> > Get yourself a locker for the front, it is the best traction device you
> will
> > find.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:f7Vqb.103249$9E1.493742@attbi_s52...
> > > So you are saying you live in a paradise? I'm not planning to get
> manual
> > > hubs any time soon. I'm just toying with the idea of stuffing
something
> > > into the front to make it a little better off road. Thanks for your
> > reply.
> > >
> > > Andy
> > >
> > > "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > news:vqnkcm40bbjq7e@corp.supernews.com...
> > > > I have a CJ with a front locker, and I have not unlocked my hubs in
> > > several
> > > > years. Basically, the CJ with the hubs locked is the same as the TJ
> all
> > > the
> > > > time. I have no steering issues at all, but at sea level within 20
> miles
> > > of
> > > > the ocean in Southern California, I have no weather related issues
> > anyway
> > > > for about 300 days a year. And when I do have weather related
issues,
> it
> > > is
> > > > either too damn hot to go outside, or it is raining. Of these two,
the
> > > rain
> > > > is a more severe problem, and it is not problem at all for the
locker.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:ZUyqb.131454$Fm2.108362@attbi_s04...
> > > > > Hi everyone. I was out West (OTR) delivering auto parts during
the
> > wild
> > > > > fires. Terrible.
> > > > >
> > > > > Home again for a few days and thinking about my TJ build up again.
> > What
> > > > was
> > > > > standard for the Front differential in 2001. I have a Dana 44 in
> the
> > > > rear.
> > > > > Is it the Dana 30?
> > > > >
> > > > > Secondly, TJ's front differentials spin all the time. I'm
> thinking
> > > this
> > > > > will not work well with a limited slip or automatic locker (On
road
> > > > > handling) , so ARB is about the only choice?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > >
> > > > > Andy
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
11-10-2003, 12:56 PM
#123
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Posts: n/a
Re: 2001 TJ Front Differential
Then something is wrong with it. I have driven my CJ on the street for most
of 6 years, and I can't remember the last time the hubs were not locked. The
hubs locked on a CJ is the exact same condition as a TJ from the factory.
There _could_ be issues relative to snow and ice and getting into a parking
spot, but I don't know about that from any experience I have had. My
experience is that there are absolutely no issues in 2WD with a locker
equipped front axle.
"Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorgenospam@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:boh9ve028gh@enews1.newsguy.com...
> Sorry to butt in, if you put a locker in the front, unless you install a
> manual hub kit I'd advise you to do an ARB or Electrac which you can
> disengage. Having driven only one TJ with a fully locked (Lock-Rite) front
> end on the street my experience is limited, but I was not impressed with
the
> on-road characteristics.
>
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:vqo9bf5omaod90@corp.supernews.com...
> > Get yourself a locker for the front, it is the best traction device you
> will
> > find.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:f7Vqb.103249$9E1.493742@attbi_s52...
> > > So you are saying you live in a paradise? I'm not planning to get
> manual
> > > hubs any time soon. I'm just toying with the idea of stuffing
something
> > > into the front to make it a little better off road. Thanks for your
> > reply.
> > >
> > > Andy
> > >
> > > "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > news:vqnkcm40bbjq7e@corp.supernews.com...
> > > > I have a CJ with a front locker, and I have not unlocked my hubs in
> > > several
> > > > years. Basically, the CJ with the hubs locked is the same as the TJ
> all
> > > the
> > > > time. I have no steering issues at all, but at sea level within 20
> miles
> > > of
> > > > the ocean in Southern California, I have no weather related issues
> > anyway
> > > > for about 300 days a year. And when I do have weather related
issues,
> it
> > > is
> > > > either too damn hot to go outside, or it is raining. Of these two,
the
> > > rain
> > > > is a more severe problem, and it is not problem at all for the
locker.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:ZUyqb.131454$Fm2.108362@attbi_s04...
> > > > > Hi everyone. I was out West (OTR) delivering auto parts during
the
> > wild
> > > > > fires. Terrible.
> > > > >
> > > > > Home again for a few days and thinking about my TJ build up again.
> > What
> > > > was
> > > > > standard for the Front differential in 2001. I have a Dana 44 in
> the
> > > > rear.
> > > > > Is it the Dana 30?
> > > > >
> > > > > Secondly, TJ's front differentials spin all the time. I'm
> thinking
> > > this
> > > > > will not work well with a limited slip or automatic locker (On
road
> > > > > handling) , so ARB is about the only choice?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > >
> > > > > Andy
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
of 6 years, and I can't remember the last time the hubs were not locked. The
hubs locked on a CJ is the exact same condition as a TJ from the factory.
There _could_ be issues relative to snow and ice and getting into a parking
spot, but I don't know about that from any experience I have had. My
experience is that there are absolutely no issues in 2WD with a locker
equipped front axle.
"Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorgenospam@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:boh9ve028gh@enews1.newsguy.com...
> Sorry to butt in, if you put a locker in the front, unless you install a
> manual hub kit I'd advise you to do an ARB or Electrac which you can
> disengage. Having driven only one TJ with a fully locked (Lock-Rite) front
> end on the street my experience is limited, but I was not impressed with
the
> on-road characteristics.
>
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:vqo9bf5omaod90@corp.supernews.com...
> > Get yourself a locker for the front, it is the best traction device you
> will
> > find.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:f7Vqb.103249$9E1.493742@attbi_s52...
> > > So you are saying you live in a paradise? I'm not planning to get
> manual
> > > hubs any time soon. I'm just toying with the idea of stuffing
something
> > > into the front to make it a little better off road. Thanks for your
> > reply.
> > >
> > > Andy
> > >
> > > "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > news:vqnkcm40bbjq7e@corp.supernews.com...
> > > > I have a CJ with a front locker, and I have not unlocked my hubs in
> > > several
> > > > years. Basically, the CJ with the hubs locked is the same as the TJ
> all
> > > the
> > > > time. I have no steering issues at all, but at sea level within 20
> miles
> > > of
> > > > the ocean in Southern California, I have no weather related issues
> > anyway
> > > > for about 300 days a year. And when I do have weather related
issues,
> it
> > > is
> > > > either too damn hot to go outside, or it is raining. Of these two,
the
> > > rain
> > > > is a more severe problem, and it is not problem at all for the
locker.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:ZUyqb.131454$Fm2.108362@attbi_s04...
> > > > > Hi everyone. I was out West (OTR) delivering auto parts during
the
> > wild
> > > > > fires. Terrible.
> > > > >
> > > > > Home again for a few days and thinking about my TJ build up again.
> > What
> > > > was
> > > > > standard for the Front differential in 2001. I have a Dana 44 in
> the
> > > > rear.
> > > > > Is it the Dana 30?
> > > > >
> > > > > Secondly, TJ's front differentials spin all the time. I'm
> thinking
> > > this
> > > > > will not work well with a limited slip or automatic locker (On
road
> > > > > handling) , so ARB is about the only choice?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > >
> > > > > Andy
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
11-10-2003, 12:56 PM
#124
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 2001 TJ Front Differential
Then something is wrong with it. I have driven my CJ on the street for most
of 6 years, and I can't remember the last time the hubs were not locked. The
hubs locked on a CJ is the exact same condition as a TJ from the factory.
There _could_ be issues relative to snow and ice and getting into a parking
spot, but I don't know about that from any experience I have had. My
experience is that there are absolutely no issues in 2WD with a locker
equipped front axle.
"Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorgenospam@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:boh9ve028gh@enews1.newsguy.com...
> Sorry to butt in, if you put a locker in the front, unless you install a
> manual hub kit I'd advise you to do an ARB or Electrac which you can
> disengage. Having driven only one TJ with a fully locked (Lock-Rite) front
> end on the street my experience is limited, but I was not impressed with
the
> on-road characteristics.
>
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:vqo9bf5omaod90@corp.supernews.com...
> > Get yourself a locker for the front, it is the best traction device you
> will
> > find.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:f7Vqb.103249$9E1.493742@attbi_s52...
> > > So you are saying you live in a paradise? I'm not planning to get
> manual
> > > hubs any time soon. I'm just toying with the idea of stuffing
something
> > > into the front to make it a little better off road. Thanks for your
> > reply.
> > >
> > > Andy
> > >
> > > "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > news:vqnkcm40bbjq7e@corp.supernews.com...
> > > > I have a CJ with a front locker, and I have not unlocked my hubs in
> > > several
> > > > years. Basically, the CJ with the hubs locked is the same as the TJ
> all
> > > the
> > > > time. I have no steering issues at all, but at sea level within 20
> miles
> > > of
> > > > the ocean in Southern California, I have no weather related issues
> > anyway
> > > > for about 300 days a year. And when I do have weather related
issues,
> it
> > > is
> > > > either too damn hot to go outside, or it is raining. Of these two,
the
> > > rain
> > > > is a more severe problem, and it is not problem at all for the
locker.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:ZUyqb.131454$Fm2.108362@attbi_s04...
> > > > > Hi everyone. I was out West (OTR) delivering auto parts during
the
> > wild
> > > > > fires. Terrible.
> > > > >
> > > > > Home again for a few days and thinking about my TJ build up again.
> > What
> > > > was
> > > > > standard for the Front differential in 2001. I have a Dana 44 in
> the
> > > > rear.
> > > > > Is it the Dana 30?
> > > > >
> > > > > Secondly, TJ's front differentials spin all the time. I'm
> thinking
> > > this
> > > > > will not work well with a limited slip or automatic locker (On
road
> > > > > handling) , so ARB is about the only choice?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > >
> > > > > Andy
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
of 6 years, and I can't remember the last time the hubs were not locked. The
hubs locked on a CJ is the exact same condition as a TJ from the factory.
There _could_ be issues relative to snow and ice and getting into a parking
spot, but I don't know about that from any experience I have had. My
experience is that there are absolutely no issues in 2WD with a locker
equipped front axle.
"Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorgenospam@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:boh9ve028gh@enews1.newsguy.com...
> Sorry to butt in, if you put a locker in the front, unless you install a
> manual hub kit I'd advise you to do an ARB or Electrac which you can
> disengage. Having driven only one TJ with a fully locked (Lock-Rite) front
> end on the street my experience is limited, but I was not impressed with
the
> on-road characteristics.
>
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:vqo9bf5omaod90@corp.supernews.com...
> > Get yourself a locker for the front, it is the best traction device you
> will
> > find.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:f7Vqb.103249$9E1.493742@attbi_s52...
> > > So you are saying you live in a paradise? I'm not planning to get
> manual
> > > hubs any time soon. I'm just toying with the idea of stuffing
something
> > > into the front to make it a little better off road. Thanks for your
> > reply.
> > >
> > > Andy
> > >
> > > "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > news:vqnkcm40bbjq7e@corp.supernews.com...
> > > > I have a CJ with a front locker, and I have not unlocked my hubs in
> > > several
> > > > years. Basically, the CJ with the hubs locked is the same as the TJ
> all
> > > the
> > > > time. I have no steering issues at all, but at sea level within 20
> miles
> > > of
> > > > the ocean in Southern California, I have no weather related issues
> > anyway
> > > > for about 300 days a year. And when I do have weather related
issues,
> it
> > > is
> > > > either too damn hot to go outside, or it is raining. Of these two,
the
> > > rain
> > > > is a more severe problem, and it is not problem at all for the
locker.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Andy" <trailrider2008@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:ZUyqb.131454$Fm2.108362@attbi_s04...
> > > > > Hi everyone. I was out West (OTR) delivering auto parts during
the
> > wild
> > > > > fires. Terrible.
> > > > >
> > > > > Home again for a few days and thinking about my TJ build up again.
> > What
> > > > was
> > > > > standard for the Front differential in 2001. I have a Dana 44 in
> the
> > > > rear.
> > > > > Is it the Dana 30?
> > > > >
> > > > > Secondly, TJ's front differentials spin all the time. I'm
> thinking
> > > this
> > > > > will not work well with a limited slip or automatic locker (On
road
> > > > > handling) , so ARB is about the only choice?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > >
> > > > > Andy
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
11-10-2003, 12:57 PM
#125
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 2001 TJ Front Differential
You definitely drove one that was not installed/working correctly.
"Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorgenospam@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:bohq1p18qv@enews2.newsguy.com...
> > You would be unique with that experience then, unless you were in 4wd on
> the street. <
>
> Nope, in 2wd.The reason I drove it was becuase the owner was concerned
with
> it. It ratcheted in a jerky fashion in tight turns and there was
noticeable
> understeer compered to an open diff. Frankly I wouldn't have liked dealing
> with it full time. He installed a Warn hub kit and is now a happy camper.
>
>
"Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorgenospam@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:bohq1p18qv@enews2.newsguy.com...
> > You would be unique with that experience then, unless you were in 4wd on
> the street. <
>
> Nope, in 2wd.The reason I drove it was becuase the owner was concerned
with
> it. It ratcheted in a jerky fashion in tight turns and there was
noticeable
> understeer compered to an open diff. Frankly I wouldn't have liked dealing
> with it full time. He installed a Warn hub kit and is now a happy camper.
>
>
11-10-2003, 12:57 PM
#126
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 2001 TJ Front Differential
You definitely drove one that was not installed/working correctly.
"Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorgenospam@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:bohq1p18qv@enews2.newsguy.com...
> > You would be unique with that experience then, unless you were in 4wd on
> the street. <
>
> Nope, in 2wd.The reason I drove it was becuase the owner was concerned
with
> it. It ratcheted in a jerky fashion in tight turns and there was
noticeable
> understeer compered to an open diff. Frankly I wouldn't have liked dealing
> with it full time. He installed a Warn hub kit and is now a happy camper.
>
>
"Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorgenospam@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:bohq1p18qv@enews2.newsguy.com...
> > You would be unique with that experience then, unless you were in 4wd on
> the street. <
>
> Nope, in 2wd.The reason I drove it was becuase the owner was concerned
with
> it. It ratcheted in a jerky fashion in tight turns and there was
noticeable
> understeer compered to an open diff. Frankly I wouldn't have liked dealing
> with it full time. He installed a Warn hub kit and is now a happy camper.
>
>
11-10-2003, 12:57 PM
#127
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 2001 TJ Front Differential
You definitely drove one that was not installed/working correctly.
"Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorgenospam@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:bohq1p18qv@enews2.newsguy.com...
> > You would be unique with that experience then, unless you were in 4wd on
> the street. <
>
> Nope, in 2wd.The reason I drove it was becuase the owner was concerned
with
> it. It ratcheted in a jerky fashion in tight turns and there was
noticeable
> understeer compered to an open diff. Frankly I wouldn't have liked dealing
> with it full time. He installed a Warn hub kit and is now a happy camper.
>
>
"Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorgenospam@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:bohq1p18qv@enews2.newsguy.com...
> > You would be unique with that experience then, unless you were in 4wd on
> the street. <
>
> Nope, in 2wd.The reason I drove it was becuase the owner was concerned
with
> it. It ratcheted in a jerky fashion in tight turns and there was
noticeable
> understeer compered to an open diff. Frankly I wouldn't have liked dealing
> with it full time. He installed a Warn hub kit and is now a happy camper.
>
>
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