2001 jeep - emergency brake
10-24-2006, 10:13 PM
#61
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Re: 2001 jeep - emergency brake
DaveW wrote:
> Lon wrote:
>
>> Jeff Strickland proclaimed:
>>
>>>
>>> "Micah" <mgoodenbour@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1161420413.387798.234760@k70g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>>>
>>>> If I'm driving something with an automatic and leaving it on a hill (or
>>>> a standard, for that matter) i put the shifter in neutral first, then
>>>> apply the parking/emergency brake, let my foot off the brake pedal, put
>>>> my foot back on the brake pedal, and shift it into park (or 1st. or
>>>> reverse.). the way i see it, it's putting the weight of the car on the
>>>> brakes, which are easily replaced, instead of the drivetrain... not so
>>>> easily replaced.
>>>>
>>>> 'Course, I'm a little obsessive about leaving cars parked on hills...
>>>> It probably dates back to when I was 15 and my parking brake failed...
>>>> I watched my Jeep roll backwards into my mother's living room. Since
>>>> then, I've parked my jeep as many as 20 blocks away from my actual
>>>> destination just to keep it on a level surface. 5 years later and I
>>>> just finished fixing all the body damage three weeks ago.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm not sure I would jump through the hoops you do when setting the
>>> parking brake, but I support the idea of placing the weight on the
>>> brakes instead of the drive train. Having said that, I seldom use
>>> the parking brake, but I seldom park on a hill where I am concerned
>>> about the drivetrain strain.
>>
>>
>> Folklore back in the 60s was that the parking pawl in an automatic
>> transmission was extremely fragile and easily broken by the slightest
>> upset and therefore one should always use the parking brake rather
>> than putting the transmission in park.
>>
>
> Agreed, that was the folklore. But in all my days (I'm 44) I've never
> heard of that happening to anyone, and I know a LOT of people who never
> use their parking brake, except on a steep hill. About 5 years ago, when
> I realized that this doesn't actually happen I stopped using the
> parking brake most of the time. Of course in a 91 XJ, it is easy to
> break the cheapo aftermarket (well, sold at dealers, but not factory)
> cup holder when applying the brake.
>
> Regards,
>
> DAve
That cupholder came prebroken, and it was a big improvement over the
original design!
As long as you keep the hand brake adjusted fairly tight you can keep
from breaking the cupholder (again), but it is a seriously sucky design.
Unless I'm parked on a steep hill I leave my Jeep in first gear and will
point the wheels toward the curb if there is one.
Jeff DeWitt
> Lon wrote:
>
>> Jeff Strickland proclaimed:
>>
>>>
>>> "Micah" <mgoodenbour@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1161420413.387798.234760@k70g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>>>
>>>> If I'm driving something with an automatic and leaving it on a hill (or
>>>> a standard, for that matter) i put the shifter in neutral first, then
>>>> apply the parking/emergency brake, let my foot off the brake pedal, put
>>>> my foot back on the brake pedal, and shift it into park (or 1st. or
>>>> reverse.). the way i see it, it's putting the weight of the car on the
>>>> brakes, which are easily replaced, instead of the drivetrain... not so
>>>> easily replaced.
>>>>
>>>> 'Course, I'm a little obsessive about leaving cars parked on hills...
>>>> It probably dates back to when I was 15 and my parking brake failed...
>>>> I watched my Jeep roll backwards into my mother's living room. Since
>>>> then, I've parked my jeep as many as 20 blocks away from my actual
>>>> destination just to keep it on a level surface. 5 years later and I
>>>> just finished fixing all the body damage three weeks ago.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm not sure I would jump through the hoops you do when setting the
>>> parking brake, but I support the idea of placing the weight on the
>>> brakes instead of the drive train. Having said that, I seldom use
>>> the parking brake, but I seldom park on a hill where I am concerned
>>> about the drivetrain strain.
>>
>>
>> Folklore back in the 60s was that the parking pawl in an automatic
>> transmission was extremely fragile and easily broken by the slightest
>> upset and therefore one should always use the parking brake rather
>> than putting the transmission in park.
>>
>
> Agreed, that was the folklore. But in all my days (I'm 44) I've never
> heard of that happening to anyone, and I know a LOT of people who never
> use their parking brake, except on a steep hill. About 5 years ago, when
> I realized that this doesn't actually happen I stopped using the
> parking brake most of the time. Of course in a 91 XJ, it is easy to
> break the cheapo aftermarket (well, sold at dealers, but not factory)
> cup holder when applying the brake.
>
> Regards,
>
> DAve
That cupholder came prebroken, and it was a big improvement over the
original design!
As long as you keep the hand brake adjusted fairly tight you can keep
from breaking the cupholder (again), but it is a seriously sucky design.
Unless I'm parked on a steep hill I leave my Jeep in first gear and will
point the wheels toward the curb if there is one.
Jeff DeWitt
10-25-2006, 01:09 PM
#62
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Re: 2001 jeep - emergency brake
Jeffrey DeWitt wrote:
>
> DaveW wrote:
> > Lon wrote:
> >
> >> Jeff Strickland proclaimed:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> "Micah" <mgoodenbour@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >>> news:1161420413.387798.234760@k70g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> >>>
> >>>> If I'm driving something with an automatic and leaving it on a hill (or
> >>>> a standard, for that matter) i put the shifter in neutral first, then
> >>>> apply the parking/emergency brake, let my foot off the brake pedal, put
> >>>> my foot back on the brake pedal, and shift it into park (or 1st. or
> >>>> reverse.). the way i see it, it's putting the weight of the car on the
> >>>> brakes, which are easily replaced, instead of the drivetrain... not so
> >>>> easily replaced.
> >>>>
> >>>> 'Course, I'm a little obsessive about leaving cars parked on hills...
> >>>> It probably dates back to when I was 15 and my parking brake failed...
> >>>> I watched my Jeep roll backwards into my mother's living room. Since
> >>>> then, I've parked my jeep as many as 20 blocks away from my actual
> >>>> destination just to keep it on a level surface. 5 years later and I
> >>>> just finished fixing all the body damage three weeks ago.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I'm not sure I would jump through the hoops you do when setting the
> >>> parking brake, but I support the idea of placing the weight on the
> >>> brakes instead of the drive train. Having said that, I seldom use
> >>> the parking brake, but I seldom park on a hill where I am concerned
> >>> about the drivetrain strain.
> >>
> >>
> >> Folklore back in the 60s was that the parking pawl in an automatic
> >> transmission was extremely fragile and easily broken by the slightest
> >> upset and therefore one should always use the parking brake rather
> >> than putting the transmission in park.
> >>
> >
> > Agreed, that was the folklore. But in all my days (I'm 44) I've never
> > heard of that happening to anyone, and I know a LOT of people who never
> > use their parking brake, except on a steep hill. About 5 years ago, when
> > I realized that this doesn't actually happen I stopped using the
> > parking brake most of the time. Of course in a 91 XJ, it is easy to
> > break the cheapo aftermarket (well, sold at dealers, but not factory)
> > cup holder when applying the brake.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > DAve
>
> That cupholder came prebroken, and it was a big improvement over the
> original design!
>
> As long as you keep the hand brake adjusted fairly tight you can keep
> from breaking the cupholder (again), but it is a seriously sucky design.
>
> Unless I'm parked on a steep hill I leave my Jeep in first gear and will
> point the wheels toward the curb if there is one.
>
> Jeff DeWitt
We have standard trannys which is a bit OT, but pointing your wheels
into the downhill side of the curb is the right way to park for either
and if there is no curb, cutting the wheels the other way so the vehicle
swings off the road if something fails is the other right way.
On steep stuff, I point nose down if possible because the back brakes
grab best in that forward rotation and use the emergency unless it's
around or below freezing. Then I don't use it because I have seen 'way'
too many frozen up. I have been known to carry a brick to use as a
'parking' brake in the winter.
Nothing worse than watching your vehicle start '6 inching' out the
driveway one cylinder at a time. LOL! Then you 'know' it's getting
long in the tooth...
Actually did that brick thing for years in one steep driveway I had to
park in. Also had one vehicle that came stock with no park or 'engaged'
1st. Sucker had a hydraulic 7 disk clutch with a 'slapstick' shifter
that went: reverse up, then neutral, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, drive down. It
was a pain to park, but really fast and fun.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
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>
> DaveW wrote:
> > Lon wrote:
> >
> >> Jeff Strickland proclaimed:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> "Micah" <mgoodenbour@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >>> news:1161420413.387798.234760@k70g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> >>>
> >>>> If I'm driving something with an automatic and leaving it on a hill (or
> >>>> a standard, for that matter) i put the shifter in neutral first, then
> >>>> apply the parking/emergency brake, let my foot off the brake pedal, put
> >>>> my foot back on the brake pedal, and shift it into park (or 1st. or
> >>>> reverse.). the way i see it, it's putting the weight of the car on the
> >>>> brakes, which are easily replaced, instead of the drivetrain... not so
> >>>> easily replaced.
> >>>>
> >>>> 'Course, I'm a little obsessive about leaving cars parked on hills...
> >>>> It probably dates back to when I was 15 and my parking brake failed...
> >>>> I watched my Jeep roll backwards into my mother's living room. Since
> >>>> then, I've parked my jeep as many as 20 blocks away from my actual
> >>>> destination just to keep it on a level surface. 5 years later and I
> >>>> just finished fixing all the body damage three weeks ago.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I'm not sure I would jump through the hoops you do when setting the
> >>> parking brake, but I support the idea of placing the weight on the
> >>> brakes instead of the drive train. Having said that, I seldom use
> >>> the parking brake, but I seldom park on a hill where I am concerned
> >>> about the drivetrain strain.
> >>
> >>
> >> Folklore back in the 60s was that the parking pawl in an automatic
> >> transmission was extremely fragile and easily broken by the slightest
> >> upset and therefore one should always use the parking brake rather
> >> than putting the transmission in park.
> >>
> >
> > Agreed, that was the folklore. But in all my days (I'm 44) I've never
> > heard of that happening to anyone, and I know a LOT of people who never
> > use their parking brake, except on a steep hill. About 5 years ago, when
> > I realized that this doesn't actually happen I stopped using the
> > parking brake most of the time. Of course in a 91 XJ, it is easy to
> > break the cheapo aftermarket (well, sold at dealers, but not factory)
> > cup holder when applying the brake.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > DAve
>
> That cupholder came prebroken, and it was a big improvement over the
> original design!
>
> As long as you keep the hand brake adjusted fairly tight you can keep
> from breaking the cupholder (again), but it is a seriously sucky design.
>
> Unless I'm parked on a steep hill I leave my Jeep in first gear and will
> point the wheels toward the curb if there is one.
>
> Jeff DeWitt
We have standard trannys which is a bit OT, but pointing your wheels
into the downhill side of the curb is the right way to park for either
and if there is no curb, cutting the wheels the other way so the vehicle
swings off the road if something fails is the other right way.
On steep stuff, I point nose down if possible because the back brakes
grab best in that forward rotation and use the emergency unless it's
around or below freezing. Then I don't use it because I have seen 'way'
too many frozen up. I have been known to carry a brick to use as a
'parking' brake in the winter.
Nothing worse than watching your vehicle start '6 inching' out the
driveway one cylinder at a time. LOL! Then you 'know' it's getting
long in the tooth...
Actually did that brick thing for years in one steep driveway I had to
park in. Also had one vehicle that came stock with no park or 'engaged'
1st. Sucker had a hydraulic 7 disk clutch with a 'slapstick' shifter
that went: reverse up, then neutral, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, drive down. It
was a pain to park, but really fast and fun.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
10-25-2006, 01:09 PM
#63
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Re: 2001 jeep - emergency brake
Jeffrey DeWitt wrote:
>
> DaveW wrote:
> > Lon wrote:
> >
> >> Jeff Strickland proclaimed:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> "Micah" <mgoodenbour@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >>> news:1161420413.387798.234760@k70g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> >>>
> >>>> If I'm driving something with an automatic and leaving it on a hill (or
> >>>> a standard, for that matter) i put the shifter in neutral first, then
> >>>> apply the parking/emergency brake, let my foot off the brake pedal, put
> >>>> my foot back on the brake pedal, and shift it into park (or 1st. or
> >>>> reverse.). the way i see it, it's putting the weight of the car on the
> >>>> brakes, which are easily replaced, instead of the drivetrain... not so
> >>>> easily replaced.
> >>>>
> >>>> 'Course, I'm a little obsessive about leaving cars parked on hills...
> >>>> It probably dates back to when I was 15 and my parking brake failed...
> >>>> I watched my Jeep roll backwards into my mother's living room. Since
> >>>> then, I've parked my jeep as many as 20 blocks away from my actual
> >>>> destination just to keep it on a level surface. 5 years later and I
> >>>> just finished fixing all the body damage three weeks ago.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I'm not sure I would jump through the hoops you do when setting the
> >>> parking brake, but I support the idea of placing the weight on the
> >>> brakes instead of the drive train. Having said that, I seldom use
> >>> the parking brake, but I seldom park on a hill where I am concerned
> >>> about the drivetrain strain.
> >>
> >>
> >> Folklore back in the 60s was that the parking pawl in an automatic
> >> transmission was extremely fragile and easily broken by the slightest
> >> upset and therefore one should always use the parking brake rather
> >> than putting the transmission in park.
> >>
> >
> > Agreed, that was the folklore. But in all my days (I'm 44) I've never
> > heard of that happening to anyone, and I know a LOT of people who never
> > use their parking brake, except on a steep hill. About 5 years ago, when
> > I realized that this doesn't actually happen I stopped using the
> > parking brake most of the time. Of course in a 91 XJ, it is easy to
> > break the cheapo aftermarket (well, sold at dealers, but not factory)
> > cup holder when applying the brake.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > DAve
>
> That cupholder came prebroken, and it was a big improvement over the
> original design!
>
> As long as you keep the hand brake adjusted fairly tight you can keep
> from breaking the cupholder (again), but it is a seriously sucky design.
>
> Unless I'm parked on a steep hill I leave my Jeep in first gear and will
> point the wheels toward the curb if there is one.
>
> Jeff DeWitt
We have standard trannys which is a bit OT, but pointing your wheels
into the downhill side of the curb is the right way to park for either
and if there is no curb, cutting the wheels the other way so the vehicle
swings off the road if something fails is the other right way.
On steep stuff, I point nose down if possible because the back brakes
grab best in that forward rotation and use the emergency unless it's
around or below freezing. Then I don't use it because I have seen 'way'
too many frozen up. I have been known to carry a brick to use as a
'parking' brake in the winter.
Nothing worse than watching your vehicle start '6 inching' out the
driveway one cylinder at a time. LOL! Then you 'know' it's getting
long in the tooth...
Actually did that brick thing for years in one steep driveway I had to
park in. Also had one vehicle that came stock with no park or 'engaged'
1st. Sucker had a hydraulic 7 disk clutch with a 'slapstick' shifter
that went: reverse up, then neutral, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, drive down. It
was a pain to park, but really fast and fun.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> DaveW wrote:
> > Lon wrote:
> >
> >> Jeff Strickland proclaimed:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> "Micah" <mgoodenbour@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >>> news:1161420413.387798.234760@k70g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> >>>
> >>>> If I'm driving something with an automatic and leaving it on a hill (or
> >>>> a standard, for that matter) i put the shifter in neutral first, then
> >>>> apply the parking/emergency brake, let my foot off the brake pedal, put
> >>>> my foot back on the brake pedal, and shift it into park (or 1st. or
> >>>> reverse.). the way i see it, it's putting the weight of the car on the
> >>>> brakes, which are easily replaced, instead of the drivetrain... not so
> >>>> easily replaced.
> >>>>
> >>>> 'Course, I'm a little obsessive about leaving cars parked on hills...
> >>>> It probably dates back to when I was 15 and my parking brake failed...
> >>>> I watched my Jeep roll backwards into my mother's living room. Since
> >>>> then, I've parked my jeep as many as 20 blocks away from my actual
> >>>> destination just to keep it on a level surface. 5 years later and I
> >>>> just finished fixing all the body damage three weeks ago.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I'm not sure I would jump through the hoops you do when setting the
> >>> parking brake, but I support the idea of placing the weight on the
> >>> brakes instead of the drive train. Having said that, I seldom use
> >>> the parking brake, but I seldom park on a hill where I am concerned
> >>> about the drivetrain strain.
> >>
> >>
> >> Folklore back in the 60s was that the parking pawl in an automatic
> >> transmission was extremely fragile and easily broken by the slightest
> >> upset and therefore one should always use the parking brake rather
> >> than putting the transmission in park.
> >>
> >
> > Agreed, that was the folklore. But in all my days (I'm 44) I've never
> > heard of that happening to anyone, and I know a LOT of people who never
> > use their parking brake, except on a steep hill. About 5 years ago, when
> > I realized that this doesn't actually happen I stopped using the
> > parking brake most of the time. Of course in a 91 XJ, it is easy to
> > break the cheapo aftermarket (well, sold at dealers, but not factory)
> > cup holder when applying the brake.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > DAve
>
> That cupholder came prebroken, and it was a big improvement over the
> original design!
>
> As long as you keep the hand brake adjusted fairly tight you can keep
> from breaking the cupholder (again), but it is a seriously sucky design.
>
> Unless I'm parked on a steep hill I leave my Jeep in first gear and will
> point the wheels toward the curb if there is one.
>
> Jeff DeWitt
We have standard trannys which is a bit OT, but pointing your wheels
into the downhill side of the curb is the right way to park for either
and if there is no curb, cutting the wheels the other way so the vehicle
swings off the road if something fails is the other right way.
On steep stuff, I point nose down if possible because the back brakes
grab best in that forward rotation and use the emergency unless it's
around or below freezing. Then I don't use it because I have seen 'way'
too many frozen up. I have been known to carry a brick to use as a
'parking' brake in the winter.
Nothing worse than watching your vehicle start '6 inching' out the
driveway one cylinder at a time. LOL! Then you 'know' it's getting
long in the tooth...
Actually did that brick thing for years in one steep driveway I had to
park in. Also had one vehicle that came stock with no park or 'engaged'
1st. Sucker had a hydraulic 7 disk clutch with a 'slapstick' shifter
that went: reverse up, then neutral, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, drive down. It
was a pain to park, but really fast and fun.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
10-25-2006, 01:09 PM
#64
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Re: 2001 jeep - emergency brake
Jeffrey DeWitt wrote:
>
> DaveW wrote:
> > Lon wrote:
> >
> >> Jeff Strickland proclaimed:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> "Micah" <mgoodenbour@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >>> news:1161420413.387798.234760@k70g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> >>>
> >>>> If I'm driving something with an automatic and leaving it on a hill (or
> >>>> a standard, for that matter) i put the shifter in neutral first, then
> >>>> apply the parking/emergency brake, let my foot off the brake pedal, put
> >>>> my foot back on the brake pedal, and shift it into park (or 1st. or
> >>>> reverse.). the way i see it, it's putting the weight of the car on the
> >>>> brakes, which are easily replaced, instead of the drivetrain... not so
> >>>> easily replaced.
> >>>>
> >>>> 'Course, I'm a little obsessive about leaving cars parked on hills...
> >>>> It probably dates back to when I was 15 and my parking brake failed...
> >>>> I watched my Jeep roll backwards into my mother's living room. Since
> >>>> then, I've parked my jeep as many as 20 blocks away from my actual
> >>>> destination just to keep it on a level surface. 5 years later and I
> >>>> just finished fixing all the body damage three weeks ago.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I'm not sure I would jump through the hoops you do when setting the
> >>> parking brake, but I support the idea of placing the weight on the
> >>> brakes instead of the drive train. Having said that, I seldom use
> >>> the parking brake, but I seldom park on a hill where I am concerned
> >>> about the drivetrain strain.
> >>
> >>
> >> Folklore back in the 60s was that the parking pawl in an automatic
> >> transmission was extremely fragile and easily broken by the slightest
> >> upset and therefore one should always use the parking brake rather
> >> than putting the transmission in park.
> >>
> >
> > Agreed, that was the folklore. But in all my days (I'm 44) I've never
> > heard of that happening to anyone, and I know a LOT of people who never
> > use their parking brake, except on a steep hill. About 5 years ago, when
> > I realized that this doesn't actually happen I stopped using the
> > parking brake most of the time. Of course in a 91 XJ, it is easy to
> > break the cheapo aftermarket (well, sold at dealers, but not factory)
> > cup holder when applying the brake.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > DAve
>
> That cupholder came prebroken, and it was a big improvement over the
> original design!
>
> As long as you keep the hand brake adjusted fairly tight you can keep
> from breaking the cupholder (again), but it is a seriously sucky design.
>
> Unless I'm parked on a steep hill I leave my Jeep in first gear and will
> point the wheels toward the curb if there is one.
>
> Jeff DeWitt
We have standard trannys which is a bit OT, but pointing your wheels
into the downhill side of the curb is the right way to park for either
and if there is no curb, cutting the wheels the other way so the vehicle
swings off the road if something fails is the other right way.
On steep stuff, I point nose down if possible because the back brakes
grab best in that forward rotation and use the emergency unless it's
around or below freezing. Then I don't use it because I have seen 'way'
too many frozen up. I have been known to carry a brick to use as a
'parking' brake in the winter.
Nothing worse than watching your vehicle start '6 inching' out the
driveway one cylinder at a time. LOL! Then you 'know' it's getting
long in the tooth...
Actually did that brick thing for years in one steep driveway I had to
park in. Also had one vehicle that came stock with no park or 'engaged'
1st. Sucker had a hydraulic 7 disk clutch with a 'slapstick' shifter
that went: reverse up, then neutral, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, drive down. It
was a pain to park, but really fast and fun.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> DaveW wrote:
> > Lon wrote:
> >
> >> Jeff Strickland proclaimed:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> "Micah" <mgoodenbour@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >>> news:1161420413.387798.234760@k70g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> >>>
> >>>> If I'm driving something with an automatic and leaving it on a hill (or
> >>>> a standard, for that matter) i put the shifter in neutral first, then
> >>>> apply the parking/emergency brake, let my foot off the brake pedal, put
> >>>> my foot back on the brake pedal, and shift it into park (or 1st. or
> >>>> reverse.). the way i see it, it's putting the weight of the car on the
> >>>> brakes, which are easily replaced, instead of the drivetrain... not so
> >>>> easily replaced.
> >>>>
> >>>> 'Course, I'm a little obsessive about leaving cars parked on hills...
> >>>> It probably dates back to when I was 15 and my parking brake failed...
> >>>> I watched my Jeep roll backwards into my mother's living room. Since
> >>>> then, I've parked my jeep as many as 20 blocks away from my actual
> >>>> destination just to keep it on a level surface. 5 years later and I
> >>>> just finished fixing all the body damage three weeks ago.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I'm not sure I would jump through the hoops you do when setting the
> >>> parking brake, but I support the idea of placing the weight on the
> >>> brakes instead of the drive train. Having said that, I seldom use
> >>> the parking brake, but I seldom park on a hill where I am concerned
> >>> about the drivetrain strain.
> >>
> >>
> >> Folklore back in the 60s was that the parking pawl in an automatic
> >> transmission was extremely fragile and easily broken by the slightest
> >> upset and therefore one should always use the parking brake rather
> >> than putting the transmission in park.
> >>
> >
> > Agreed, that was the folklore. But in all my days (I'm 44) I've never
> > heard of that happening to anyone, and I know a LOT of people who never
> > use their parking brake, except on a steep hill. About 5 years ago, when
> > I realized that this doesn't actually happen I stopped using the
> > parking brake most of the time. Of course in a 91 XJ, it is easy to
> > break the cheapo aftermarket (well, sold at dealers, but not factory)
> > cup holder when applying the brake.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > DAve
>
> That cupholder came prebroken, and it was a big improvement over the
> original design!
>
> As long as you keep the hand brake adjusted fairly tight you can keep
> from breaking the cupholder (again), but it is a seriously sucky design.
>
> Unless I'm parked on a steep hill I leave my Jeep in first gear and will
> point the wheels toward the curb if there is one.
>
> Jeff DeWitt
We have standard trannys which is a bit OT, but pointing your wheels
into the downhill side of the curb is the right way to park for either
and if there is no curb, cutting the wheels the other way so the vehicle
swings off the road if something fails is the other right way.
On steep stuff, I point nose down if possible because the back brakes
grab best in that forward rotation and use the emergency unless it's
around or below freezing. Then I don't use it because I have seen 'way'
too many frozen up. I have been known to carry a brick to use as a
'parking' brake in the winter.
Nothing worse than watching your vehicle start '6 inching' out the
driveway one cylinder at a time. LOL! Then you 'know' it's getting
long in the tooth...
Actually did that brick thing for years in one steep driveway I had to
park in. Also had one vehicle that came stock with no park or 'engaged'
1st. Sucker had a hydraulic 7 disk clutch with a 'slapstick' shifter
that went: reverse up, then neutral, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, drive down. It
was a pain to park, but really fast and fun.
Mike
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