2001 jeep - emergency brake
10-21-2006, 10:23 PM
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Re: 2001 jeep - emergency brake
Jeff Strickland proclaimed:
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> "Micah" <mgoodenbour@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>> If I'm driving something with an automatic and leaving it on a hill (or
>> a standard, for that matter) i put the shifter in neutral first, then
>> apply the parking/emergency brake, let my foot off the brake pedal, put
>> my foot back on the brake pedal, and shift it into park (or 1st. or
>> reverse.). the way i see it, it's putting the weight of the car on the
>> brakes, which are easily replaced, instead of the drivetrain... not so
>> easily replaced.
>>
>> 'Course, I'm a little obsessive about leaving cars parked on hills...
>> It probably dates back to when I was 15 and my parking brake failed...
>> I watched my Jeep roll backwards into my mother's living room. Since
>> then, I've parked my jeep as many as 20 blocks away from my actual
>> destination just to keep it on a level surface. 5 years later and I
>> just finished fixing all the body damage three weeks ago.
>>
>
>
> I'm not sure I would jump through the hoops you do when setting the
> parking brake, but I support the idea of placing the weight on the
> brakes instead of the drive train. Having said that, I seldom use the
> parking brake, but I seldom park on a hill where I am concerned about
> the drivetrain strain.
Folklore back in the 60s was that the parking pawl in an automatic
transmission was extremely fragile and easily broken by the slightest
upset and therefore one should always use the parking brake rather than
putting the transmission in park.
>
> "Micah" <mgoodenbour@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1161420413.387798.234760@k70g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>
>> If I'm driving something with an automatic and leaving it on a hill (or
>> a standard, for that matter) i put the shifter in neutral first, then
>> apply the parking/emergency brake, let my foot off the brake pedal, put
>> my foot back on the brake pedal, and shift it into park (or 1st. or
>> reverse.). the way i see it, it's putting the weight of the car on the
>> brakes, which are easily replaced, instead of the drivetrain... not so
>> easily replaced.
>>
>> 'Course, I'm a little obsessive about leaving cars parked on hills...
>> It probably dates back to when I was 15 and my parking brake failed...
>> I watched my Jeep roll backwards into my mother's living room. Since
>> then, I've parked my jeep as many as 20 blocks away from my actual
>> destination just to keep it on a level surface. 5 years later and I
>> just finished fixing all the body damage three weeks ago.
>>
>
>
> I'm not sure I would jump through the hoops you do when setting the
> parking brake, but I support the idea of placing the weight on the
> brakes instead of the drive train. Having said that, I seldom use the
> parking brake, but I seldom park on a hill where I am concerned about
> the drivetrain strain.
Folklore back in the 60s was that the parking pawl in an automatic
transmission was extremely fragile and easily broken by the slightest
upset and therefore one should always use the parking brake rather than
putting the transmission in park.
10-21-2006, 10:23 PM
#45
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Re: 2001 jeep - emergency brake
Jeff Strickland proclaimed:
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> "Micah" <mgoodenbour@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1161420413.387798.234760@k70g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>
>> If I'm driving something with an automatic and leaving it on a hill (or
>> a standard, for that matter) i put the shifter in neutral first, then
>> apply the parking/emergency brake, let my foot off the brake pedal, put
>> my foot back on the brake pedal, and shift it into park (or 1st. or
>> reverse.). the way i see it, it's putting the weight of the car on the
>> brakes, which are easily replaced, instead of the drivetrain... not so
>> easily replaced.
>>
>> 'Course, I'm a little obsessive about leaving cars parked on hills...
>> It probably dates back to when I was 15 and my parking brake failed...
>> I watched my Jeep roll backwards into my mother's living room. Since
>> then, I've parked my jeep as many as 20 blocks away from my actual
>> destination just to keep it on a level surface. 5 years later and I
>> just finished fixing all the body damage three weeks ago.
>>
>
>
> I'm not sure I would jump through the hoops you do when setting the
> parking brake, but I support the idea of placing the weight on the
> brakes instead of the drive train. Having said that, I seldom use the
> parking brake, but I seldom park on a hill where I am concerned about
> the drivetrain strain.
Folklore back in the 60s was that the parking pawl in an automatic
transmission was extremely fragile and easily broken by the slightest
upset and therefore one should always use the parking brake rather than
putting the transmission in park.
>
> "Micah" <mgoodenbour@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1161420413.387798.234760@k70g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>
>> If I'm driving something with an automatic and leaving it on a hill (or
>> a standard, for that matter) i put the shifter in neutral first, then
>> apply the parking/emergency brake, let my foot off the brake pedal, put
>> my foot back on the brake pedal, and shift it into park (or 1st. or
>> reverse.). the way i see it, it's putting the weight of the car on the
>> brakes, which are easily replaced, instead of the drivetrain... not so
>> easily replaced.
>>
>> 'Course, I'm a little obsessive about leaving cars parked on hills...
>> It probably dates back to when I was 15 and my parking brake failed...
>> I watched my Jeep roll backwards into my mother's living room. Since
>> then, I've parked my jeep as many as 20 blocks away from my actual
>> destination just to keep it on a level surface. 5 years later and I
>> just finished fixing all the body damage three weeks ago.
>>
>
>
> I'm not sure I would jump through the hoops you do when setting the
> parking brake, but I support the idea of placing the weight on the
> brakes instead of the drive train. Having said that, I seldom use the
> parking brake, but I seldom park on a hill where I am concerned about
> the drivetrain strain.
Folklore back in the 60s was that the parking pawl in an automatic
transmission was extremely fragile and easily broken by the slightest
upset and therefore one should always use the parking brake rather than
putting the transmission in park.
10-21-2006, 10:23 PM
#46
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Re: 2001 jeep - emergency brake
Jeff Strickland proclaimed:
>
> "Micah" <mgoodenbour@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1161420413.387798.234760@k70g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>
>> If I'm driving something with an automatic and leaving it on a hill (or
>> a standard, for that matter) i put the shifter in neutral first, then
>> apply the parking/emergency brake, let my foot off the brake pedal, put
>> my foot back on the brake pedal, and shift it into park (or 1st. or
>> reverse.). the way i see it, it's putting the weight of the car on the
>> brakes, which are easily replaced, instead of the drivetrain... not so
>> easily replaced.
>>
>> 'Course, I'm a little obsessive about leaving cars parked on hills...
>> It probably dates back to when I was 15 and my parking brake failed...
>> I watched my Jeep roll backwards into my mother's living room. Since
>> then, I've parked my jeep as many as 20 blocks away from my actual
>> destination just to keep it on a level surface. 5 years later and I
>> just finished fixing all the body damage three weeks ago.
>>
>
>
> I'm not sure I would jump through the hoops you do when setting the
> parking brake, but I support the idea of placing the weight on the
> brakes instead of the drive train. Having said that, I seldom use the
> parking brake, but I seldom park on a hill where I am concerned about
> the drivetrain strain.
Folklore back in the 60s was that the parking pawl in an automatic
transmission was extremely fragile and easily broken by the slightest
upset and therefore one should always use the parking brake rather than
putting the transmission in park.
>
> "Micah" <mgoodenbour@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1161420413.387798.234760@k70g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>
>> If I'm driving something with an automatic and leaving it on a hill (or
>> a standard, for that matter) i put the shifter in neutral first, then
>> apply the parking/emergency brake, let my foot off the brake pedal, put
>> my foot back on the brake pedal, and shift it into park (or 1st. or
>> reverse.). the way i see it, it's putting the weight of the car on the
>> brakes, which are easily replaced, instead of the drivetrain... not so
>> easily replaced.
>>
>> 'Course, I'm a little obsessive about leaving cars parked on hills...
>> It probably dates back to when I was 15 and my parking brake failed...
>> I watched my Jeep roll backwards into my mother's living room. Since
>> then, I've parked my jeep as many as 20 blocks away from my actual
>> destination just to keep it on a level surface. 5 years later and I
>> just finished fixing all the body damage three weeks ago.
>>
>
>
> I'm not sure I would jump through the hoops you do when setting the
> parking brake, but I support the idea of placing the weight on the
> brakes instead of the drive train. Having said that, I seldom use the
> parking brake, but I seldom park on a hill where I am concerned about
> the drivetrain strain.
Folklore back in the 60s was that the parking pawl in an automatic
transmission was extremely fragile and easily broken by the slightest
upset and therefore one should always use the parking brake rather than
putting the transmission in park.
10-22-2006, 12:06 AM
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Re: 2001 jeep - emergency brake
Lon wrote:
> Jeff Strickland proclaimed:
>
>>
>> "Micah" <mgoodenbour@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1161420413.387798.234760@k70g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>>
>>> If I'm driving something with an automatic and leaving it on a hill (or
>>> a standard, for that matter) i put the shifter in neutral first, then
>>> apply the parking/emergency brake, let my foot off the brake pedal, put
>>> my foot back on the brake pedal, and shift it into park (or 1st. or
>>> reverse.). the way i see it, it's putting the weight of the car on the
>>> brakes, which are easily replaced, instead of the drivetrain... not so
>>> easily replaced.
>>>
>>> 'Course, I'm a little obsessive about leaving cars parked on hills...
>>> It probably dates back to when I was 15 and my parking brake failed...
>>> I watched my Jeep roll backwards into my mother's living room. Since
>>> then, I've parked my jeep as many as 20 blocks away from my actual
>>> destination just to keep it on a level surface. 5 years later and I
>>> just finished fixing all the body damage three weeks ago.
>>>
>>
>>
>> I'm not sure I would jump through the hoops you do when setting the
>> parking brake, but I support the idea of placing the weight on the
>> brakes instead of the drive train. Having said that, I seldom use the
>> parking brake, but I seldom park on a hill where I am concerned about
>> the drivetrain strain.
>
> Folklore back in the 60s was that the parking pawl in an automatic
> transmission was extremely fragile and easily broken by the slightest
> upset and therefore one should always use the parking brake rather than
> putting the transmission in park.
>
Agreed, that was the folklore. But in all my days (I'm 44) I've never
heard of that happening to anyone, and I know a LOT of people who never
use their parking brake, except on a steep hill. About 5 years ago, when
I realized that this doesn't actually happen I stopped using the
parking brake most of the time. Of course in a 91 XJ, it is easy to
break the cheapo aftermarket (well, sold at dealers, but not factory)
cup holder when applying the brake.
Regards,
DAve
> Jeff Strickland proclaimed:
>
>>
>> "Micah" <mgoodenbour@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1161420413.387798.234760@k70g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>>
>>> If I'm driving something with an automatic and leaving it on a hill (or
>>> a standard, for that matter) i put the shifter in neutral first, then
>>> apply the parking/emergency brake, let my foot off the brake pedal, put
>>> my foot back on the brake pedal, and shift it into park (or 1st. or
>>> reverse.). the way i see it, it's putting the weight of the car on the
>>> brakes, which are easily replaced, instead of the drivetrain... not so
>>> easily replaced.
>>>
>>> 'Course, I'm a little obsessive about leaving cars parked on hills...
>>> It probably dates back to when I was 15 and my parking brake failed...
>>> I watched my Jeep roll backwards into my mother's living room. Since
>>> then, I've parked my jeep as many as 20 blocks away from my actual
>>> destination just to keep it on a level surface. 5 years later and I
>>> just finished fixing all the body damage three weeks ago.
>>>
>>
>>
>> I'm not sure I would jump through the hoops you do when setting the
>> parking brake, but I support the idea of placing the weight on the
>> brakes instead of the drive train. Having said that, I seldom use the
>> parking brake, but I seldom park on a hill where I am concerned about
>> the drivetrain strain.
>
> Folklore back in the 60s was that the parking pawl in an automatic
> transmission was extremely fragile and easily broken by the slightest
> upset and therefore one should always use the parking brake rather than
> putting the transmission in park.
>
Agreed, that was the folklore. But in all my days (I'm 44) I've never
heard of that happening to anyone, and I know a LOT of people who never
use their parking brake, except on a steep hill. About 5 years ago, when
I realized that this doesn't actually happen I stopped using the
parking brake most of the time. Of course in a 91 XJ, it is easy to
break the cheapo aftermarket (well, sold at dealers, but not factory)
cup holder when applying the brake.
Regards,
DAve
10-22-2006, 12:06 AM
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Re: 2001 jeep - emergency brake
Lon wrote:
> Jeff Strickland proclaimed:
>
>>
>> "Micah" <mgoodenbour@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1161420413.387798.234760@k70g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>>
>>> If I'm driving something with an automatic and leaving it on a hill (or
>>> a standard, for that matter) i put the shifter in neutral first, then
>>> apply the parking/emergency brake, let my foot off the brake pedal, put
>>> my foot back on the brake pedal, and shift it into park (or 1st. or
>>> reverse.). the way i see it, it's putting the weight of the car on the
>>> brakes, which are easily replaced, instead of the drivetrain... not so
>>> easily replaced.
>>>
>>> 'Course, I'm a little obsessive about leaving cars parked on hills...
>>> It probably dates back to when I was 15 and my parking brake failed...
>>> I watched my Jeep roll backwards into my mother's living room. Since
>>> then, I've parked my jeep as many as 20 blocks away from my actual
>>> destination just to keep it on a level surface. 5 years later and I
>>> just finished fixing all the body damage three weeks ago.
>>>
>>
>>
>> I'm not sure I would jump through the hoops you do when setting the
>> parking brake, but I support the idea of placing the weight on the
>> brakes instead of the drive train. Having said that, I seldom use the
>> parking brake, but I seldom park on a hill where I am concerned about
>> the drivetrain strain.
>
> Folklore back in the 60s was that the parking pawl in an automatic
> transmission was extremely fragile and easily broken by the slightest
> upset and therefore one should always use the parking brake rather than
> putting the transmission in park.
>
Agreed, that was the folklore. But in all my days (I'm 44) I've never
heard of that happening to anyone, and I know a LOT of people who never
use their parking brake, except on a steep hill. About 5 years ago, when
I realized that this doesn't actually happen I stopped using the
parking brake most of the time. Of course in a 91 XJ, it is easy to
break the cheapo aftermarket (well, sold at dealers, but not factory)
cup holder when applying the brake.
Regards,
DAve
> Jeff Strickland proclaimed:
>
>>
>> "Micah" <mgoodenbour@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1161420413.387798.234760@k70g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>>
>>> If I'm driving something with an automatic and leaving it on a hill (or
>>> a standard, for that matter) i put the shifter in neutral first, then
>>> apply the parking/emergency brake, let my foot off the brake pedal, put
>>> my foot back on the brake pedal, and shift it into park (or 1st. or
>>> reverse.). the way i see it, it's putting the weight of the car on the
>>> brakes, which are easily replaced, instead of the drivetrain... not so
>>> easily replaced.
>>>
>>> 'Course, I'm a little obsessive about leaving cars parked on hills...
>>> It probably dates back to when I was 15 and my parking brake failed...
>>> I watched my Jeep roll backwards into my mother's living room. Since
>>> then, I've parked my jeep as many as 20 blocks away from my actual
>>> destination just to keep it on a level surface. 5 years later and I
>>> just finished fixing all the body damage three weeks ago.
>>>
>>
>>
>> I'm not sure I would jump through the hoops you do when setting the
>> parking brake, but I support the idea of placing the weight on the
>> brakes instead of the drive train. Having said that, I seldom use the
>> parking brake, but I seldom park on a hill where I am concerned about
>> the drivetrain strain.
>
> Folklore back in the 60s was that the parking pawl in an automatic
> transmission was extremely fragile and easily broken by the slightest
> upset and therefore one should always use the parking brake rather than
> putting the transmission in park.
>
Agreed, that was the folklore. But in all my days (I'm 44) I've never
heard of that happening to anyone, and I know a LOT of people who never
use their parking brake, except on a steep hill. About 5 years ago, when
I realized that this doesn't actually happen I stopped using the
parking brake most of the time. Of course in a 91 XJ, it is easy to
break the cheapo aftermarket (well, sold at dealers, but not factory)
cup holder when applying the brake.
Regards,
DAve
10-22-2006, 12:06 AM
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Re: 2001 jeep - emergency brake
Lon wrote:
> Jeff Strickland proclaimed:
>
>>
>> "Micah" <mgoodenbour@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1161420413.387798.234760@k70g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>>
>>> If I'm driving something with an automatic and leaving it on a hill (or
>>> a standard, for that matter) i put the shifter in neutral first, then
>>> apply the parking/emergency brake, let my foot off the brake pedal, put
>>> my foot back on the brake pedal, and shift it into park (or 1st. or
>>> reverse.). the way i see it, it's putting the weight of the car on the
>>> brakes, which are easily replaced, instead of the drivetrain... not so
>>> easily replaced.
>>>
>>> 'Course, I'm a little obsessive about leaving cars parked on hills...
>>> It probably dates back to when I was 15 and my parking brake failed...
>>> I watched my Jeep roll backwards into my mother's living room. Since
>>> then, I've parked my jeep as many as 20 blocks away from my actual
>>> destination just to keep it on a level surface. 5 years later and I
>>> just finished fixing all the body damage three weeks ago.
>>>
>>
>>
>> I'm not sure I would jump through the hoops you do when setting the
>> parking brake, but I support the idea of placing the weight on the
>> brakes instead of the drive train. Having said that, I seldom use the
>> parking brake, but I seldom park on a hill where I am concerned about
>> the drivetrain strain.
>
> Folklore back in the 60s was that the parking pawl in an automatic
> transmission was extremely fragile and easily broken by the slightest
> upset and therefore one should always use the parking brake rather than
> putting the transmission in park.
>
Agreed, that was the folklore. But in all my days (I'm 44) I've never
heard of that happening to anyone, and I know a LOT of people who never
use their parking brake, except on a steep hill. About 5 years ago, when
I realized that this doesn't actually happen I stopped using the
parking brake most of the time. Of course in a 91 XJ, it is easy to
break the cheapo aftermarket (well, sold at dealers, but not factory)
cup holder when applying the brake.
Regards,
DAve
> Jeff Strickland proclaimed:
>
>>
>> "Micah" <mgoodenbour@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1161420413.387798.234760@k70g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>>
>>> If I'm driving something with an automatic and leaving it on a hill (or
>>> a standard, for that matter) i put the shifter in neutral first, then
>>> apply the parking/emergency brake, let my foot off the brake pedal, put
>>> my foot back on the brake pedal, and shift it into park (or 1st. or
>>> reverse.). the way i see it, it's putting the weight of the car on the
>>> brakes, which are easily replaced, instead of the drivetrain... not so
>>> easily replaced.
>>>
>>> 'Course, I'm a little obsessive about leaving cars parked on hills...
>>> It probably dates back to when I was 15 and my parking brake failed...
>>> I watched my Jeep roll backwards into my mother's living room. Since
>>> then, I've parked my jeep as many as 20 blocks away from my actual
>>> destination just to keep it on a level surface. 5 years later and I
>>> just finished fixing all the body damage three weeks ago.
>>>
>>
>>
>> I'm not sure I would jump through the hoops you do when setting the
>> parking brake, but I support the idea of placing the weight on the
>> brakes instead of the drive train. Having said that, I seldom use the
>> parking brake, but I seldom park on a hill where I am concerned about
>> the drivetrain strain.
>
> Folklore back in the 60s was that the parking pawl in an automatic
> transmission was extremely fragile and easily broken by the slightest
> upset and therefore one should always use the parking brake rather than
> putting the transmission in park.
>
Agreed, that was the folklore. But in all my days (I'm 44) I've never
heard of that happening to anyone, and I know a LOT of people who never
use their parking brake, except on a steep hill. About 5 years ago, when
I realized that this doesn't actually happen I stopped using the
parking brake most of the time. Of course in a 91 XJ, it is easy to
break the cheapo aftermarket (well, sold at dealers, but not factory)
cup holder when applying the brake.
Regards,
DAve
10-22-2006, 03:50 AM
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Re: 2001 jeep - emergency brake
One thing I've noticed about the 2002 TJ is the emergency/parking brake
doesn't work when you park with the front end pointing uphill. It will
always roll backwards. If you park front-end pointing downhill it
won't budge. I've had the thing adjusted multiple times, with no luck.
Of course, I've also discovered that if I try to back down a steep hill
(like my driveway), I will inevitably slide down, even with the brakes
activated and the wheels locked. When I go forwards down the hill,
that doesn't happen. I'm guessing it's how the weight is distributed
in the TJ.
Micah wrote:
> Agreed. If I have to leave it on a hill I do crank the wheels into the
> curb, but I just feel really uneasy about it. Once is enough for me.
> I'm willing to walk a little ways to avoid complete annihilation to my
> Jeep.
doesn't work when you park with the front end pointing uphill. It will
always roll backwards. If you park front-end pointing downhill it
won't budge. I've had the thing adjusted multiple times, with no luck.
Of course, I've also discovered that if I try to back down a steep hill
(like my driveway), I will inevitably slide down, even with the brakes
activated and the wheels locked. When I go forwards down the hill,
that doesn't happen. I'm guessing it's how the weight is distributed
in the TJ.
Micah wrote:
> Agreed. If I have to leave it on a hill I do crank the wheels into the
> curb, but I just feel really uneasy about it. Once is enough for me.
> I'm willing to walk a little ways to avoid complete annihilation to my
> Jeep.
