Masnor

RE: 2000 Wrangler TJ Passenger Seat Slide and Tip Cable Repair

The steel cable that runs from the release lever on the back of the seat to
an out of sight lever beneath the seat has broken. Symptom - I can pull out
the metal cable from the black cable housing from where it hooks into the
seat bottom lever. And the cable end is frayed.

The result is that the seat won't slide forward and tip toward the dash
without a) reaching under the seat and finding the correct metal lever the
cable was attached to, and b) manually depressing it, while c) pushing the
seat toward the dash. Not handy at all.

I have the seat out and have generally loosened the seat covers (back and
seat) and traced the route of the cable housing. Generally. It's a
circuitous route at best that seems to take nearly a full lap around the
seat bottom before heading into the seat back (somewhere) and then
connecting to the seat back release lever. It appears that I will have to
unbolt the back of the seat from the seat bottom to even get to all of the
cable route.

Unbolting the seat back looks simple enough on the left side with only one
bolt. The right side is a little more complicated and I'm worried that
parts of the gears and release lever will fall out if I start unbolting the
right side. Also, I'm just a little worried that I'll never get it all back
together. (Although it does give extra room for storage with the passenger
seat out...)

Anyone with experience here? Please reply ALL to get to my Masnor@***.net
address too.

Marc Masnor

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q...llys&lr=&hl=en
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Masnor wrote:
>
> RE: 2000 Wrangler TJ Passenger Seat Slide and Tip Cable Repair
>
> The steel cable that runs from the release lever on the back of the seat to
> an out of sight lever beneath the seat has broken. Symptom - I can pull out
> the metal cable from the black cable housing from where it hooks into the
> seat bottom lever. And the cable end is frayed.
>
> The result is that the seat won't slide forward and tip toward the dash
> without a) reaching under the seat and finding the correct metal lever the
> cable was attached to, and b) manually depressing it, while c) pushing the
> seat toward the dash. Not handy at all.
>
> I have the seat out and have generally loosened the seat covers (back and
> seat) and traced the route of the cable housing. Generally. It's a
> circuitous route at best that seems to take nearly a full lap around the
> seat bottom before heading into the seat back (somewhere) and then
> connecting to the seat back release lever. It appears that I will have to
> unbolt the back of the seat from the seat bottom to even get to all of the
> cable route.
>
> Unbolting the seat back looks simple enough on the left side with only one
> bolt. The right side is a little more complicated and I'm worried that
> parts of the gears and release lever will fall out if I start unbolting the
> right side. Also, I'm just a little worried that I'll never get it all back
> together. (Although it does give extra room for storage with the passenger
> seat out...)
>
> Anyone with experience here? Please reply ALL to get to my Masnor@***.net
> address too.
>
> Marc Masnor

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q...llys&lr=&hl=en
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Masnor wrote:
>
> RE: 2000 Wrangler TJ Passenger Seat Slide and Tip Cable Repair
>
> The steel cable that runs from the release lever on the back of the seat to
> an out of sight lever beneath the seat has broken. Symptom - I can pull out
> the metal cable from the black cable housing from where it hooks into the
> seat bottom lever. And the cable end is frayed.
>
> The result is that the seat won't slide forward and tip toward the dash
> without a) reaching under the seat and finding the correct metal lever the
> cable was attached to, and b) manually depressing it, while c) pushing the
> seat toward the dash. Not handy at all.
>
> I have the seat out and have generally loosened the seat covers (back and
> seat) and traced the route of the cable housing. Generally. It's a
> circuitous route at best that seems to take nearly a full lap around the
> seat bottom before heading into the seat back (somewhere) and then
> connecting to the seat back release lever. It appears that I will have to
> unbolt the back of the seat from the seat bottom to even get to all of the
> cable route.
>
> Unbolting the seat back looks simple enough on the left side with only one
> bolt. The right side is a little more complicated and I'm worried that
> parts of the gears and release lever will fall out if I start unbolting the
> right side. Also, I'm just a little worried that I'll never get it all back
> together. (Although it does give extra room for storage with the passenger
> seat out...)
>
> Anyone with experience here? Please reply ALL to get to my Masnor@***.net
> address too.
>
> Marc Masnor

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q...llys&lr=&hl=en
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Masnor wrote:
>
> RE: 2000 Wrangler TJ Passenger Seat Slide and Tip Cable Repair
>
> The steel cable that runs from the release lever on the back of the seat to
> an out of sight lever beneath the seat has broken. Symptom - I can pull out
> the metal cable from the black cable housing from where it hooks into the
> seat bottom lever. And the cable end is frayed.
>
> The result is that the seat won't slide forward and tip toward the dash
> without a) reaching under the seat and finding the correct metal lever the
> cable was attached to, and b) manually depressing it, while c) pushing the
> seat toward the dash. Not handy at all.
>
> I have the seat out and have generally loosened the seat covers (back and
> seat) and traced the route of the cable housing. Generally. It's a
> circuitous route at best that seems to take nearly a full lap around the
> seat bottom before heading into the seat back (somewhere) and then
> connecting to the seat back release lever. It appears that I will have to
> unbolt the back of the seat from the seat bottom to even get to all of the
> cable route.
>
> Unbolting the seat back looks simple enough on the left side with only one
> bolt. The right side is a little more complicated and I'm worried that
> parts of the gears and release lever will fall out if I start unbolting the
> right side. Also, I'm just a little worried that I'll never get it all back
> together. (Although it does give extra room for storage with the passenger
> seat out...)
>
> Anyone with experience here? Please reply ALL to get to my Masnor@***.net
> address too.
>
> Marc Masnor

Masnor

I decided to let an upholstery shop do the replacement. The part was in the
$25 to $30 range, labor will be about $45. That is with the seat out.
(Even I can unbolt four bolts.)

I am more than a little put out by the Jeep Dealer. I called Chris Nickles
in Tulsa for an estimate. It took over six hours for a return call, then
after describing the problem, I get something like this...

Service Rep, "Oh, that cables pretty expensive. I'd say that's about
$280.00 to do the replacement. "

I say, "But I have the seat out and it's just a two to three foot steel
cable in a plastic sheath. "

He says, "We'd prefer to have it in the vehicle."

I couldn't help but ask, "Why? "

He says, "Because we don't have any place to put a seat. We have a
parking lot for cars, but no place to put a seat."


Two days later, I regret not saying outloud where I though he should put the
seat.

Fortunately I thought of an upholstrey shop, and a friend suggested one on
my way to work. They are happy to see me, are eager to get the work, and
are too busy to give me any crap.

I should have probably done the work myself. But, I now have a place to fix
my soft top that a mouse got to and for seat covers in an old chevy.

I get the seat tomorrow.

Masnor

BTW, seeing how easy it is to remove the seats, I'll probably do that for
the annual (ish) steam cleaning. They will dry much beter out (of the
hardtop) and in the sun.


"Masnor" <Masnor@***.net> wrote in message
news:ZhTWc.1838$gl.39@okepread07...
> RE: 2000 Wrangler TJ Passenger Seat Slide and Tip Cable Repair
>
> The steel cable that runs from the release lever on the back of the seat
to
> an out of sight lever beneath the seat has broken. Symptom - I can pull
out
> the metal cable from the black cable housing from where it hooks into the
> seat bottom lever. And the cable end is frayed.
>
> The result is that the seat won't slide forward and tip toward the dash
> without a) reaching under the seat and finding the correct metal lever the
> cable was attached to, and b) manually depressing it, while c) pushing the
> seat toward the dash. Not handy at all.
>
> I have the seat out and have generally loosened the seat covers (back and
> seat) and traced the route of the cable housing. Generally. It's a
> circuitous route at best that seems to take nearly a full lap around the
> seat bottom before heading into the seat back (somewhere) and then
> connecting to the seat back release lever. It appears that I will have to
> unbolt the back of the seat from the seat bottom to even get to all of the
> cable route.
>
> Unbolting the seat back looks simple enough on the left side with only one
> bolt. The right side is a little more complicated and I'm worried that
> parts of the gears and release lever will fall out if I start unbolting
the
> right side. Also, I'm just a little worried that I'll never get it all
back
> together. (Although it does give extra room for storage with the
passenger
> seat out...)
>
> Anyone with experience here? Please reply ALL to get to my Masnor@***.net
> address too.
>
> Marc Masnor
>
>

Masnor

I decided to let an upholstery shop do the replacement. The part was in the
$25 to $30 range, labor will be about $45. That is with the seat out.
(Even I can unbolt four bolts.)

I am more than a little put out by the Jeep Dealer. I called Chris Nickles
in Tulsa for an estimate. It took over six hours for a return call, then
after describing the problem, I get something like this...

Service Rep, "Oh, that cables pretty expensive. I'd say that's about
$280.00 to do the replacement. "

I say, "But I have the seat out and it's just a two to three foot steel
cable in a plastic sheath. "

He says, "We'd prefer to have it in the vehicle."

I couldn't help but ask, "Why? "

He says, "Because we don't have any place to put a seat. We have a
parking lot for cars, but no place to put a seat."


Two days later, I regret not saying outloud where I though he should put the
seat.

Fortunately I thought of an upholstrey shop, and a friend suggested one on
my way to work. They are happy to see me, are eager to get the work, and
are too busy to give me any crap.

I should have probably done the work myself. But, I now have a place to fix
my soft top that a mouse got to and for seat covers in an old chevy.

I get the seat tomorrow.

Masnor

BTW, seeing how easy it is to remove the seats, I'll probably do that for
the annual (ish) steam cleaning. They will dry much beter out (of the
hardtop) and in the sun.


"Masnor" <Masnor@***.net> wrote in message
news:ZhTWc.1838$gl.39@okepread07...
> RE: 2000 Wrangler TJ Passenger Seat Slide and Tip Cable Repair
>
> The steel cable that runs from the release lever on the back of the seat
to
> an out of sight lever beneath the seat has broken. Symptom - I can pull
out
> the metal cable from the black cable housing from where it hooks into the
> seat bottom lever. And the cable end is frayed.
>
> The result is that the seat won't slide forward and tip toward the dash
> without a) reaching under the seat and finding the correct metal lever the
> cable was attached to, and b) manually depressing it, while c) pushing the
> seat toward the dash. Not handy at all.
>
> I have the seat out and have generally loosened the seat covers (back and
> seat) and traced the route of the cable housing. Generally. It's a
> circuitous route at best that seems to take nearly a full lap around the
> seat bottom before heading into the seat back (somewhere) and then
> connecting to the seat back release lever. It appears that I will have to
> unbolt the back of the seat from the seat bottom to even get to all of the
> cable route.
>
> Unbolting the seat back looks simple enough on the left side with only one
> bolt. The right side is a little more complicated and I'm worried that
> parts of the gears and release lever will fall out if I start unbolting
the
> right side. Also, I'm just a little worried that I'll never get it all
back
> together. (Although it does give extra room for storage with the
passenger
> seat out...)
>
> Anyone with experience here? Please reply ALL to get to my Masnor@***.net
> address too.
>
> Marc Masnor
>
>

Masnor

I decided to let an upholstery shop do the replacement. The part was in the
$25 to $30 range, labor will be about $45. That is with the seat out.
(Even I can unbolt four bolts.)

I am more than a little put out by the Jeep Dealer. I called Chris Nickles
in Tulsa for an estimate. It took over six hours for a return call, then
after describing the problem, I get something like this...

Service Rep, "Oh, that cables pretty expensive. I'd say that's about
$280.00 to do the replacement. "

I say, "But I have the seat out and it's just a two to three foot steel
cable in a plastic sheath. "

He says, "We'd prefer to have it in the vehicle."

I couldn't help but ask, "Why? "

He says, "Because we don't have any place to put a seat. We have a
parking lot for cars, but no place to put a seat."


Two days later, I regret not saying outloud where I though he should put the
seat.

Fortunately I thought of an upholstrey shop, and a friend suggested one on
my way to work. They are happy to see me, are eager to get the work, and
are too busy to give me any crap.

I should have probably done the work myself. But, I now have a place to fix
my soft top that a mouse got to and for seat covers in an old chevy.

I get the seat tomorrow.

Masnor

BTW, seeing how easy it is to remove the seats, I'll probably do that for
the annual (ish) steam cleaning. They will dry much beter out (of the
hardtop) and in the sun.


"Masnor" <Masnor@***.net> wrote in message
news:ZhTWc.1838$gl.39@okepread07...
> RE: 2000 Wrangler TJ Passenger Seat Slide and Tip Cable Repair
>
> The steel cable that runs from the release lever on the back of the seat
to
> an out of sight lever beneath the seat has broken. Symptom - I can pull
out
> the metal cable from the black cable housing from where it hooks into the
> seat bottom lever. And the cable end is frayed.
>
> The result is that the seat won't slide forward and tip toward the dash
> without a) reaching under the seat and finding the correct metal lever the
> cable was attached to, and b) manually depressing it, while c) pushing the
> seat toward the dash. Not handy at all.
>
> I have the seat out and have generally loosened the seat covers (back and
> seat) and traced the route of the cable housing. Generally. It's a
> circuitous route at best that seems to take nearly a full lap around the
> seat bottom before heading into the seat back (somewhere) and then
> connecting to the seat back release lever. It appears that I will have to
> unbolt the back of the seat from the seat bottom to even get to all of the
> cable route.
>
> Unbolting the seat back looks simple enough on the left side with only one
> bolt. The right side is a little more complicated and I'm worried that
> parts of the gears and release lever will fall out if I start unbolting
the
> right side. Also, I'm just a little worried that I'll never get it all
back
> together. (Although it does give extra room for storage with the
passenger
> seat out...)
>
> Anyone with experience here? Please reply ALL to get to my Masnor@***.net
> address too.
>
> Marc Masnor
>
>

Dave Milne

280. Unbelievable.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"Masnor" <Masnor@***.net> wrote in message
news:18xXc.6631$gl.802@okepread07...
> I decided to let an upholstery shop do the replacement. The part was in
the
> $25 to $30 range, labor will be about $45. That is with the seat out.
> (Even I can unbolt four bolts.)
>
> I am more than a little put out by the Jeep Dealer. I called Chris
Nickles
> in Tulsa for an estimate. It took over six hours for a return call, then
> after describing the problem, I get something like this...
>
> Service Rep, "Oh, that cables pretty expensive. I'd say that's about
> $280.00 to do the replacement. "
>
> I say, "But I have the seat out and it's just a two to three foot
steel
> cable in a plastic sheath. "
>
> He says, "We'd prefer to have it in the vehicle."
>
> I couldn't help but ask, "Why? "
>
> He says, "Because we don't have any place to put a seat. We have a
> parking lot for cars, but no place to put a seat."
>
>
> Two days later, I regret not saying outloud where I though he should put
the
> seat.
>
> Fortunately I thought of an upholstrey shop, and a friend suggested one on
> my way to work. They are happy to see me, are eager to get the work, and
> are too busy to give me any crap.
>
> I should have probably done the work myself. But, I now have a place to
fix
> my soft top that a mouse got to and for seat covers in an old chevy.
>
> I get the seat tomorrow.
>
> Masnor
>
> BTW, seeing how easy it is to remove the seats, I'll probably do that for
> the annual (ish) steam cleaning. They will dry much beter out (of the
> hardtop) and in the sun.
>
>
> "Masnor" <Masnor@***.net> wrote in message
> news:ZhTWc.1838$gl.39@okepread07...
> > RE: 2000 Wrangler TJ Passenger Seat Slide and Tip Cable Repair
> >
> > The steel cable that runs from the release lever on the back of the seat
> to
> > an out of sight lever beneath the seat has broken. Symptom - I can pull
> out
> > the metal cable from the black cable housing from where it hooks into
the
> > seat bottom lever. And the cable end is frayed.
> >
> > The result is that the seat won't slide forward and tip toward the dash
> > without a) reaching under the seat and finding the correct metal lever
the
> > cable was attached to, and b) manually depressing it, while c) pushing
the
> > seat toward the dash. Not handy at all.
> >
> > I have the seat out and have generally loosened the seat covers (back
and
> > seat) and traced the route of the cable housing. Generally. It's a
> > circuitous route at best that seems to take nearly a full lap around the
> > seat bottom before heading into the seat back (somewhere) and then
> > connecting to the seat back release lever. It appears that I will have
to
> > unbolt the back of the seat from the seat bottom to even get to all of
the
> > cable route.
> >
> > Unbolting the seat back looks simple enough on the left side with only
one
> > bolt. The right side is a little more complicated and I'm worried that
> > parts of the gears and release lever will fall out if I start unbolting
> the
> > right side. Also, I'm just a little worried that I'll never get it all
> back
> > together. (Although it does give extra room for storage with the
> passenger
> > seat out...)
> >
> > Anyone with experience here? Please reply ALL to get to my
Masnor@***.net
> > address too.
> >
> > Marc Masnor
> >
> >
>
>

Dave Milne

280. Unbelievable.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"Masnor" <Masnor@***.net> wrote in message
news:18xXc.6631$gl.802@okepread07...
> I decided to let an upholstery shop do the replacement. The part was in
the
> $25 to $30 range, labor will be about $45. That is with the seat out.
> (Even I can unbolt four bolts.)
>
> I am more than a little put out by the Jeep Dealer. I called Chris
Nickles
> in Tulsa for an estimate. It took over six hours for a return call, then
> after describing the problem, I get something like this...
>
> Service Rep, "Oh, that cables pretty expensive. I'd say that's about
> $280.00 to do the replacement. "
>
> I say, "But I have the seat out and it's just a two to three foot
steel
> cable in a plastic sheath. "
>
> He says, "We'd prefer to have it in the vehicle."
>
> I couldn't help but ask, "Why? "
>
> He says, "Because we don't have any place to put a seat. We have a
> parking lot for cars, but no place to put a seat."
>
>
> Two days later, I regret not saying outloud where I though he should put
the
> seat.
>
> Fortunately I thought of an upholstrey shop, and a friend suggested one on
> my way to work. They are happy to see me, are eager to get the work, and
> are too busy to give me any crap.
>
> I should have probably done the work myself. But, I now have a place to
fix
> my soft top that a mouse got to and for seat covers in an old chevy.
>
> I get the seat tomorrow.
>
> Masnor
>
> BTW, seeing how easy it is to remove the seats, I'll probably do that for
> the annual (ish) steam cleaning. They will dry much beter out (of the
> hardtop) and in the sun.
>
>
> "Masnor" <Masnor@***.net> wrote in message
> news:ZhTWc.1838$gl.39@okepread07...
> > RE: 2000 Wrangler TJ Passenger Seat Slide and Tip Cable Repair
> >
> > The steel cable that runs from the release lever on the back of the seat
> to
> > an out of sight lever beneath the seat has broken. Symptom - I can pull
> out
> > the metal cable from the black cable housing from where it hooks into
the
> > seat bottom lever. And the cable end is frayed.
> >
> > The result is that the seat won't slide forward and tip toward the dash
> > without a) reaching under the seat and finding the correct metal lever
the
> > cable was attached to, and b) manually depressing it, while c) pushing
the
> > seat toward the dash. Not handy at all.
> >
> > I have the seat out and have generally loosened the seat covers (back
and
> > seat) and traced the route of the cable housing. Generally. It's a
> > circuitous route at best that seems to take nearly a full lap around the
> > seat bottom before heading into the seat back (somewhere) and then
> > connecting to the seat back release lever. It appears that I will have
to
> > unbolt the back of the seat from the seat bottom to even get to all of
the
> > cable route.
> >
> > Unbolting the seat back looks simple enough on the left side with only
one
> > bolt. The right side is a little more complicated and I'm worried that
> > parts of the gears and release lever will fall out if I start unbolting
> the
> > right side. Also, I'm just a little worried that I'll never get it all
> back
> > together. (Although it does give extra room for storage with the
> passenger
> > seat out...)
> >
> > Anyone with experience here? Please reply ALL to get to my
Masnor@***.net
> > address too.
> >
> > Marc Masnor
> >
> >
>
>

Dave Milne

280. Unbelievable.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"Masnor" <Masnor@***.net> wrote in message
news:18xXc.6631$gl.802@okepread07...
> I decided to let an upholstery shop do the replacement. The part was in
the
> $25 to $30 range, labor will be about $45. That is with the seat out.
> (Even I can unbolt four bolts.)
>
> I am more than a little put out by the Jeep Dealer. I called Chris
Nickles
> in Tulsa for an estimate. It took over six hours for a return call, then
> after describing the problem, I get something like this...
>
> Service Rep, "Oh, that cables pretty expensive. I'd say that's about
> $280.00 to do the replacement. "
>
> I say, "But I have the seat out and it's just a two to three foot
steel
> cable in a plastic sheath. "
>
> He says, "We'd prefer to have it in the vehicle."
>
> I couldn't help but ask, "Why? "
>
> He says, "Because we don't have any place to put a seat. We have a
> parking lot for cars, but no place to put a seat."
>
>
> Two days later, I regret not saying outloud where I though he should put
the
> seat.
>
> Fortunately I thought of an upholstrey shop, and a friend suggested one on
> my way to work. They are happy to see me, are eager to get the work, and
> are too busy to give me any crap.
>
> I should have probably done the work myself. But, I now have a place to
fix
> my soft top that a mouse got to and for seat covers in an old chevy.
>
> I get the seat tomorrow.
>
> Masnor
>
> BTW, seeing how easy it is to remove the seats, I'll probably do that for
> the annual (ish) steam cleaning. They will dry much beter out (of the
> hardtop) and in the sun.
>
>
> "Masnor" <Masnor@***.net> wrote in message
> news:ZhTWc.1838$gl.39@okepread07...
> > RE: 2000 Wrangler TJ Passenger Seat Slide and Tip Cable Repair
> >
> > The steel cable that runs from the release lever on the back of the seat
> to
> > an out of sight lever beneath the seat has broken. Symptom - I can pull
> out
> > the metal cable from the black cable housing from where it hooks into
the
> > seat bottom lever. And the cable end is frayed.
> >
> > The result is that the seat won't slide forward and tip toward the dash
> > without a) reaching under the seat and finding the correct metal lever
the
> > cable was attached to, and b) manually depressing it, while c) pushing
the
> > seat toward the dash. Not handy at all.
> >
> > I have the seat out and have generally loosened the seat covers (back
and
> > seat) and traced the route of the cable housing. Generally. It's a
> > circuitous route at best that seems to take nearly a full lap around the
> > seat bottom before heading into the seat back (somewhere) and then
> > connecting to the seat back release lever. It appears that I will have
to
> > unbolt the back of the seat from the seat bottom to even get to all of
the
> > cable route.
> >
> > Unbolting the seat back looks simple enough on the left side with only
one
> > bolt. The right side is a little more complicated and I'm worried that
> > parts of the gears and release lever will fall out if I start unbolting
> the
> > right side. Also, I'm just a little worried that I'll never get it all
> back
> > together. (Although it does give extra room for storage with the
> passenger
> > seat out...)
> >
> > Anyone with experience here? Please reply ALL to get to my
Masnor@***.net
> > address too.
> >
> > Marc Masnor
> >
> >
>
>