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Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
Better be careful when picking a new handle. Bill complained a few weeks ago
about a person changing his handle. He prefers that we all use our real name. :) Tom "Smegma Breath" <tchilson@penn.com> wrote in message news:xkLub.7977$Rk5.7950@newsread1.news.atl.earthl ink.net... snip > I guess I will just have to come up with a new 'handle' and toss out the > name Smegma Breath. Maybe something Jeep related (all suggestions will be > appreciated). snip |
Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
Better be careful when picking a new handle. Bill complained a few weeks ago
about a person changing his handle. He prefers that we all use our real name. :) Tom "Smegma Breath" <tchilson@penn.com> wrote in message news:xkLub.7977$Rk5.7950@newsread1.news.atl.earthl ink.net... snip > I guess I will just have to come up with a new 'handle' and toss out the > name Smegma Breath. Maybe something Jeep related (all suggestions will be > appreciated). snip |
Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
One of the computers on my network is called "smeg" -- Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California |
Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
One of the computers on my network is called "smeg" -- Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California |
Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
One of the computers on my network is called "smeg" -- Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California |
Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
Does it look a little cheesier than the other computers? The one with
the sticky hard drive? Paul Calman wrote: > One of the computers on my network is called "smeg" -- __________________________________________________ _________ tw 03 TJ Rubicon 01 XJ Sport There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." -- Dave Barry Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940 Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose) A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase, 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II. http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email) __________________________________________________ _________ |
Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
Does it look a little cheesier than the other computers? The one with
the sticky hard drive? Paul Calman wrote: > One of the computers on my network is called "smeg" -- __________________________________________________ _________ tw 03 TJ Rubicon 01 XJ Sport There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." -- Dave Barry Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940 Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose) A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase, 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II. http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email) __________________________________________________ _________ |
Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
Does it look a little cheesier than the other computers? The one with
the sticky hard drive? Paul Calman wrote: > One of the computers on my network is called "smeg" -- __________________________________________________ _________ tw 03 TJ Rubicon 01 XJ Sport There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." -- Dave Barry Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940 Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose) A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase, 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II. http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email) __________________________________________________ _________ |
Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
mabar did pass the time by typing:
> Hi Doug: > > Can you point me to the Oklahoma law that says it's illegal to have fogs on > along with high beams, and the law that says you cannot run fogs without > headlights. > > When driving in really dense fog, it's almost impossible to see if the > headlights are on. They reflect almost all the light back into the driver's > eyes in dense fog. The purpose of fogs is to throw a wide, low beam under > the fog so the light is not reflected back into the driver's eyes. Running > with both fogs and headlights on defeats the purpose of fog lights. http://www.lsb.state.ok.us/okstatute...tuestitle.html §47-12-217. Auxiliary, fog, and off-road lamps. It's an .rtf file (MsWord will open it) Long and dull. -- DougW |
Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
mabar did pass the time by typing:
> Hi Doug: > > Can you point me to the Oklahoma law that says it's illegal to have fogs on > along with high beams, and the law that says you cannot run fogs without > headlights. > > When driving in really dense fog, it's almost impossible to see if the > headlights are on. They reflect almost all the light back into the driver's > eyes in dense fog. The purpose of fogs is to throw a wide, low beam under > the fog so the light is not reflected back into the driver's eyes. Running > with both fogs and headlights on defeats the purpose of fog lights. http://www.lsb.state.ok.us/okstatute...tuestitle.html §47-12-217. Auxiliary, fog, and off-road lamps. It's an .rtf file (MsWord will open it) Long and dull. -- DougW |
Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
mabar did pass the time by typing:
> Hi Doug: > > Can you point me to the Oklahoma law that says it's illegal to have fogs on > along with high beams, and the law that says you cannot run fogs without > headlights. > > When driving in really dense fog, it's almost impossible to see if the > headlights are on. They reflect almost all the light back into the driver's > eyes in dense fog. The purpose of fogs is to throw a wide, low beam under > the fog so the light is not reflected back into the driver's eyes. Running > with both fogs and headlights on defeats the purpose of fog lights. http://www.lsb.state.ok.us/okstatute...tuestitle.html §47-12-217. Auxiliary, fog, and off-road lamps. It's an .rtf file (MsWord will open it) Long and dull. -- DougW |
Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 14:54:57 -0600, "DougW"
<post.replies@invalid.address> shared the following: >mabar did pass the time by typing: >> Hi Doug: >> >> Can you point me to the Oklahoma law that says it's illegal to have fogs on >> along with high beams, and the law that says you cannot run fogs without >> headlights. >> >> When driving in really dense fog, it's almost impossible to see if the >> headlights are on. They reflect almost all the light back into the driver's >> eyes in dense fog. The purpose of fogs is to throw a wide, low beam under >> the fog so the light is not reflected back into the driver's eyes. Running >> with both fogs and headlights on defeats the purpose of fog lights. > >http://www.lsb.state.ok.us/okstatute...tuestitle.html >§47-12-217. Auxiliary, fog, and off-road lamps. > >It's an .rtf file (MsWord will open it) Long and dull. 2. Front fog lamps shall be mounted on the same level on opposite sides of the front of the vehicle at or below the level of the headlamps. Front fog lamps may be used with lower beam headlamps or switch controlled in conjunction with the headlamps and may be used, at the discretion of the driver, with either low or high beam headlamps. Front fog lamps shall not be used in substitution of headlamps, when headlamps are required. So according to that document it is NOT illegal to have fogs on with high beams. He said to show him where it says it IS illegal to have the fogs on with high beams. It also says "Front fog lamps shall not be used in substitution of headlamps, WHEN HEADLAMPS ARE REQUIRED." That's pretty open to interpretation. So in other words he can use fogs without headlights if conditions are right, like in the morning when the sun is out but it's really foggy. Headlamps aren't required in fog, and they can even make things work. I don't see where quoting this document has done anything except prove both of mabar's points. -- Travis http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it. :wq! |
Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 14:54:57 -0600, "DougW"
<post.replies@invalid.address> shared the following: >mabar did pass the time by typing: >> Hi Doug: >> >> Can you point me to the Oklahoma law that says it's illegal to have fogs on >> along with high beams, and the law that says you cannot run fogs without >> headlights. >> >> When driving in really dense fog, it's almost impossible to see if the >> headlights are on. They reflect almost all the light back into the driver's >> eyes in dense fog. The purpose of fogs is to throw a wide, low beam under >> the fog so the light is not reflected back into the driver's eyes. Running >> with both fogs and headlights on defeats the purpose of fog lights. > >http://www.lsb.state.ok.us/okstatute...tuestitle.html >§47-12-217. Auxiliary, fog, and off-road lamps. > >It's an .rtf file (MsWord will open it) Long and dull. 2. Front fog lamps shall be mounted on the same level on opposite sides of the front of the vehicle at or below the level of the headlamps. Front fog lamps may be used with lower beam headlamps or switch controlled in conjunction with the headlamps and may be used, at the discretion of the driver, with either low or high beam headlamps. Front fog lamps shall not be used in substitution of headlamps, when headlamps are required. So according to that document it is NOT illegal to have fogs on with high beams. He said to show him where it says it IS illegal to have the fogs on with high beams. It also says "Front fog lamps shall not be used in substitution of headlamps, WHEN HEADLAMPS ARE REQUIRED." That's pretty open to interpretation. So in other words he can use fogs without headlights if conditions are right, like in the morning when the sun is out but it's really foggy. Headlamps aren't required in fog, and they can even make things work. I don't see where quoting this document has done anything except prove both of mabar's points. -- Travis http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it. :wq! |
Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 14:54:57 -0600, "DougW"
<post.replies@invalid.address> shared the following: >mabar did pass the time by typing: >> Hi Doug: >> >> Can you point me to the Oklahoma law that says it's illegal to have fogs on >> along with high beams, and the law that says you cannot run fogs without >> headlights. >> >> When driving in really dense fog, it's almost impossible to see if the >> headlights are on. They reflect almost all the light back into the driver's >> eyes in dense fog. The purpose of fogs is to throw a wide, low beam under >> the fog so the light is not reflected back into the driver's eyes. Running >> with both fogs and headlights on defeats the purpose of fog lights. > >http://www.lsb.state.ok.us/okstatute...tuestitle.html >§47-12-217. Auxiliary, fog, and off-road lamps. > >It's an .rtf file (MsWord will open it) Long and dull. 2. Front fog lamps shall be mounted on the same level on opposite sides of the front of the vehicle at or below the level of the headlamps. Front fog lamps may be used with lower beam headlamps or switch controlled in conjunction with the headlamps and may be used, at the discretion of the driver, with either low or high beam headlamps. Front fog lamps shall not be used in substitution of headlamps, when headlamps are required. So according to that document it is NOT illegal to have fogs on with high beams. He said to show him where it says it IS illegal to have the fogs on with high beams. It also says "Front fog lamps shall not be used in substitution of headlamps, WHEN HEADLAMPS ARE REQUIRED." That's pretty open to interpretation. So in other words he can use fogs without headlights if conditions are right, like in the morning when the sun is out but it's really foggy. Headlamps aren't required in fog, and they can even make things work. I don't see where quoting this document has done anything except prove both of mabar's points. -- Travis http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it. :wq! |
Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 16:16:44 -0500, travis
<travist34removethis@hotmail.com> shared the following: >On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 14:54:57 -0600, "DougW" ><post.replies@invalid.address> shared the following: > >>mabar did pass the time by typing: >>> Hi Doug: >>> >>> Can you point me to the Oklahoma law that says it's illegal to have fogs on >>> along with high beams, and the law that says you cannot run fogs without >>> headlights. >>> >>> When driving in really dense fog, it's almost impossible to see if the >>> headlights are on. They reflect almost all the light back into the driver's >>> eyes in dense fog. The purpose of fogs is to throw a wide, low beam under >>> the fog so the light is not reflected back into the driver's eyes. Running >>> with both fogs and headlights on defeats the purpose of fog lights. >> >>http://www.lsb.state.ok.us/okstatute...tuestitle.html >>§47-12-217. Auxiliary, fog, and off-road lamps. >> >>It's an .rtf file (MsWord will open it) Long and dull. > >2. Front fog lamps shall be mounted on the same level on opposite >sides of the front of the vehicle at or below the level of the >headlamps. Front fog lamps may be used with lower beam headlamps or >switch controlled in conjunction with the headlamps and may be used, >at the discretion of the driver, with either low or high beam >headlamps. Front fog lamps shall not be used in substitution of >headlamps, when headlamps are required. > >So according to that document it is NOT illegal to have fogs on with >high beams. He said to show him where it says it IS illegal to have >the fogs on with high beams. It also says "Front fog lamps shall not >be used in substitution of headlamps, WHEN HEADLAMPS ARE REQUIRED." >That's pretty open to interpretation. So in other words he can use >fogs without headlights if conditions are right, like in the morning >when the sun is out but it's really foggy. Headlamps aren't required >in fog, and they can even make things work. "work" = "worse > I don't see where quoting >this document has done anything except prove both of mabar's points. -- Travis http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it. :wq! |
Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 16:16:44 -0500, travis
<travist34removethis@hotmail.com> shared the following: >On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 14:54:57 -0600, "DougW" ><post.replies@invalid.address> shared the following: > >>mabar did pass the time by typing: >>> Hi Doug: >>> >>> Can you point me to the Oklahoma law that says it's illegal to have fogs on >>> along with high beams, and the law that says you cannot run fogs without >>> headlights. >>> >>> When driving in really dense fog, it's almost impossible to see if the >>> headlights are on. They reflect almost all the light back into the driver's >>> eyes in dense fog. The purpose of fogs is to throw a wide, low beam under >>> the fog so the light is not reflected back into the driver's eyes. Running >>> with both fogs and headlights on defeats the purpose of fog lights. >> >>http://www.lsb.state.ok.us/okstatute...tuestitle.html >>§47-12-217. Auxiliary, fog, and off-road lamps. >> >>It's an .rtf file (MsWord will open it) Long and dull. > >2. Front fog lamps shall be mounted on the same level on opposite >sides of the front of the vehicle at or below the level of the >headlamps. Front fog lamps may be used with lower beam headlamps or >switch controlled in conjunction with the headlamps and may be used, >at the discretion of the driver, with either low or high beam >headlamps. Front fog lamps shall not be used in substitution of >headlamps, when headlamps are required. > >So according to that document it is NOT illegal to have fogs on with >high beams. He said to show him where it says it IS illegal to have >the fogs on with high beams. It also says "Front fog lamps shall not >be used in substitution of headlamps, WHEN HEADLAMPS ARE REQUIRED." >That's pretty open to interpretation. So in other words he can use >fogs without headlights if conditions are right, like in the morning >when the sun is out but it's really foggy. Headlamps aren't required >in fog, and they can even make things work. "work" = "worse > I don't see where quoting >this document has done anything except prove both of mabar's points. -- Travis http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it. :wq! |
Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 16:16:44 -0500, travis
<travist34removethis@hotmail.com> shared the following: >On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 14:54:57 -0600, "DougW" ><post.replies@invalid.address> shared the following: > >>mabar did pass the time by typing: >>> Hi Doug: >>> >>> Can you point me to the Oklahoma law that says it's illegal to have fogs on >>> along with high beams, and the law that says you cannot run fogs without >>> headlights. >>> >>> When driving in really dense fog, it's almost impossible to see if the >>> headlights are on. They reflect almost all the light back into the driver's >>> eyes in dense fog. The purpose of fogs is to throw a wide, low beam under >>> the fog so the light is not reflected back into the driver's eyes. Running >>> with both fogs and headlights on defeats the purpose of fog lights. >> >>http://www.lsb.state.ok.us/okstatute...tuestitle.html >>§47-12-217. Auxiliary, fog, and off-road lamps. >> >>It's an .rtf file (MsWord will open it) Long and dull. > >2. Front fog lamps shall be mounted on the same level on opposite >sides of the front of the vehicle at or below the level of the >headlamps. Front fog lamps may be used with lower beam headlamps or >switch controlled in conjunction with the headlamps and may be used, >at the discretion of the driver, with either low or high beam >headlamps. Front fog lamps shall not be used in substitution of >headlamps, when headlamps are required. > >So according to that document it is NOT illegal to have fogs on with >high beams. He said to show him where it says it IS illegal to have >the fogs on with high beams. It also says "Front fog lamps shall not >be used in substitution of headlamps, WHEN HEADLAMPS ARE REQUIRED." >That's pretty open to interpretation. So in other words he can use >fogs without headlights if conditions are right, like in the morning >when the sun is out but it's really foggy. Headlamps aren't required >in fog, and they can even make things work. "work" = "worse > I don't see where quoting >this document has done anything except prove both of mabar's points. -- Travis http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it. :wq! |
Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
travis did pass the time by typing:
>So according to that document it is NOT illegal to have fogs on with >high beams. He said to show him where it says it IS illegal to have >the fogs on with high beams. It also says "Front fog lamps shall not >be used in substitution of headlamps, WHEN HEADLAMPS ARE REQUIRED." >That's pretty open to interpretation. absolutely, and it's often the police that make that interpretation. >So in other words he can use >fogs without headlights if conditions are right, like in the morning >when the sun is out but it's really foggy. Headlamps aren't required >in fog, and they can even make things work. They may have changed the code since the last time I read it. All I did was google for the site based on what I remembered before. My point was legality depends on each states regulations. But likewise you also can't go by just one paragraph. For example, the definition of nighttime includes situations were visiblity is 1000ft or less. Therefore in fog, headlamps are required. IIRC there is also a requirement that headlamps be on when wipers are on. Heard that on the news a few days back. -- DougW |
Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
travis did pass the time by typing:
>So according to that document it is NOT illegal to have fogs on with >high beams. He said to show him where it says it IS illegal to have >the fogs on with high beams. It also says "Front fog lamps shall not >be used in substitution of headlamps, WHEN HEADLAMPS ARE REQUIRED." >That's pretty open to interpretation. absolutely, and it's often the police that make that interpretation. >So in other words he can use >fogs without headlights if conditions are right, like in the morning >when the sun is out but it's really foggy. Headlamps aren't required >in fog, and they can even make things work. They may have changed the code since the last time I read it. All I did was google for the site based on what I remembered before. My point was legality depends on each states regulations. But likewise you also can't go by just one paragraph. For example, the definition of nighttime includes situations were visiblity is 1000ft or less. Therefore in fog, headlamps are required. IIRC there is also a requirement that headlamps be on when wipers are on. Heard that on the news a few days back. -- DougW |
Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
travis did pass the time by typing:
>So according to that document it is NOT illegal to have fogs on with >high beams. He said to show him where it says it IS illegal to have >the fogs on with high beams. It also says "Front fog lamps shall not >be used in substitution of headlamps, WHEN HEADLAMPS ARE REQUIRED." >That's pretty open to interpretation. absolutely, and it's often the police that make that interpretation. >So in other words he can use >fogs without headlights if conditions are right, like in the morning >when the sun is out but it's really foggy. Headlamps aren't required >in fog, and they can even make things work. They may have changed the code since the last time I read it. All I did was google for the site based on what I remembered before. My point was legality depends on each states regulations. But likewise you also can't go by just one paragraph. For example, the definition of nighttime includes situations were visiblity is 1000ft or less. Therefore in fog, headlamps are required. IIRC there is also a requirement that headlamps be on when wipers are on. Heard that on the news a few days back. -- DougW |
Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
"mabar" <mabar@NOSPAMgbronline.com> wrote in message news:Bb-dnZlHnK7v4yaiRVn-jg@gbronline.com... > Hi Doug: > > Can you point me to the Oklahoma law that says it's illegal to have fogs on > along with high beams, and the law that says you cannot run fogs without > headlights. > > When driving in really dense fog, it's almost impossible to see if the > headlights are on. They reflect almost all the light back into the driver's > eyes in dense fog. The purpose of fogs is to throw a wide, low beam under > the fog so the light is not reflected back into the driver's eyes. Running > with both fogs and headlights on defeats the purpose of fog lights. > That's not true at all, you need both fog lamps and head lights at the same time to have enough light to see where you are going. Running with fog lamps alone does not provide enough light to see where you are going. What fog lights do is light up the the fog from a different angle than the head lights, which cuts the reflected light from the head lights. You need headlamps and fog lights at the same time. |
Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
"mabar" <mabar@NOSPAMgbronline.com> wrote in message news:Bb-dnZlHnK7v4yaiRVn-jg@gbronline.com... > Hi Doug: > > Can you point me to the Oklahoma law that says it's illegal to have fogs on > along with high beams, and the law that says you cannot run fogs without > headlights. > > When driving in really dense fog, it's almost impossible to see if the > headlights are on. They reflect almost all the light back into the driver's > eyes in dense fog. The purpose of fogs is to throw a wide, low beam under > the fog so the light is not reflected back into the driver's eyes. Running > with both fogs and headlights on defeats the purpose of fog lights. > That's not true at all, you need both fog lamps and head lights at the same time to have enough light to see where you are going. Running with fog lamps alone does not provide enough light to see where you are going. What fog lights do is light up the the fog from a different angle than the head lights, which cuts the reflected light from the head lights. You need headlamps and fog lights at the same time. |
Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
"mabar" <mabar@NOSPAMgbronline.com> wrote in message news:Bb-dnZlHnK7v4yaiRVn-jg@gbronline.com... > Hi Doug: > > Can you point me to the Oklahoma law that says it's illegal to have fogs on > along with high beams, and the law that says you cannot run fogs without > headlights. > > When driving in really dense fog, it's almost impossible to see if the > headlights are on. They reflect almost all the light back into the driver's > eyes in dense fog. The purpose of fogs is to throw a wide, low beam under > the fog so the light is not reflected back into the driver's eyes. Running > with both fogs and headlights on defeats the purpose of fog lights. > That's not true at all, you need both fog lamps and head lights at the same time to have enough light to see where you are going. Running with fog lamps alone does not provide enough light to see where you are going. What fog lights do is light up the the fog from a different angle than the head lights, which cuts the reflected light from the head lights. You need headlamps and fog lights at the same time. |
Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
Only if they offer undocumented BS as fact. Other wise I let their
girlie stuff pass. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ mabar wrote: > > Better be careful when picking a new handle. Bill complained a few weeks ago > about a person changing his handle. He prefers that we all use our real > name. > > :) > > Tom |
Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
Only if they offer undocumented BS as fact. Other wise I let their
girlie stuff pass. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ mabar wrote: > > Better be careful when picking a new handle. Bill complained a few weeks ago > about a person changing his handle. He prefers that we all use our real > name. > > :) > > Tom |
Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
Only if they offer undocumented BS as fact. Other wise I let their
girlie stuff pass. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ mabar wrote: > > Better be careful when picking a new handle. Bill complained a few weeks ago > about a person changing his handle. He prefers that we all use our real > name. > > :) > > Tom |
Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 13:49:24 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@cox.net> shared the following: > Only if they offer undocumented BS as fact. Other wise I let their >girlie stuff pass. > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O >mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ How nice of you to "let" it pass. *chuckle* > >mabar wrote: >> >> Better be careful when picking a new handle. Bill complained a few weeks ago >> about a person changing his handle. He prefers that we all use our real >> name. >> >> :) >> >> Tom -- Travis http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it. :wq! |
Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 13:49:24 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@cox.net> shared the following: > Only if they offer undocumented BS as fact. Other wise I let their >girlie stuff pass. > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O >mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ How nice of you to "let" it pass. *chuckle* > >mabar wrote: >> >> Better be careful when picking a new handle. Bill complained a few weeks ago >> about a person changing his handle. He prefers that we all use our real >> name. >> >> :) >> >> Tom -- Travis http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it. :wq! |
Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 13:49:24 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@cox.net> shared the following: > Only if they offer undocumented BS as fact. Other wise I let their >girlie stuff pass. > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O >mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ How nice of you to "let" it pass. *chuckle* > >mabar wrote: >> >> Better be careful when picking a new handle. Bill complained a few weeks ago >> about a person changing his handle. He prefers that we all use our real >> name. >> >> :) >> >> Tom -- Travis http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it. :wq! |
Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
Hi Jeff,
Plus it's against the law here in Kalyfornia to drive with just the fog lights: http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d12/vc24403.htm God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ CRWLR wrote: > > That's not true at all, you need both fog lamps and head lights at the same > time to have enough light to see where you are going. > > Running with fog lamps alone does not provide enough light to see where you > are going. What fog lights do is light up the the fog from a different angle > than the head lights, which cuts the reflected light from the head lights. > You need headlamps and fog lights at the same time. |
Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
Hi Jeff,
Plus it's against the law here in Kalyfornia to drive with just the fog lights: http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d12/vc24403.htm God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ CRWLR wrote: > > That's not true at all, you need both fog lamps and head lights at the same > time to have enough light to see where you are going. > > Running with fog lamps alone does not provide enough light to see where you > are going. What fog lights do is light up the the fog from a different angle > than the head lights, which cuts the reflected light from the head lights. > You need headlamps and fog lights at the same time. |
Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
Hi Jeff,
Plus it's against the law here in Kalyfornia to drive with just the fog lights: http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d12/vc24403.htm God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ CRWLR wrote: > > That's not true at all, you need both fog lamps and head lights at the same > time to have enough light to see where you are going. > > Running with fog lamps alone does not provide enough light to see where you > are going. What fog lights do is light up the the fog from a different angle > than the head lights, which cuts the reflected light from the head lights. > You need headlamps and fog lights at the same time. |
Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
That is most certainly true during hours of darmness, but it might not be
quite so true during the day. I can cehck, if anybody cares. "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:3FBBF72F.6A623A0B@cox.net... > Hi Jeff, > Plus it's against the law here in Kalyfornia to drive with just the > fog lights: http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d12/vc24403.htm > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > CRWLR wrote: > > > > That's not true at all, you need both fog lamps and head lights at the same > > time to have enough light to see where you are going. > > > > Running with fog lamps alone does not provide enough light to see where you > > are going. What fog lights do is light up the the fog from a different angle > > than the head lights, which cuts the reflected light from the head lights. > > You need headlamps and fog lights at the same time. |
Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
That is most certainly true during hours of darmness, but it might not be
quite so true during the day. I can cehck, if anybody cares. "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:3FBBF72F.6A623A0B@cox.net... > Hi Jeff, > Plus it's against the law here in Kalyfornia to drive with just the > fog lights: http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d12/vc24403.htm > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > CRWLR wrote: > > > > That's not true at all, you need both fog lamps and head lights at the same > > time to have enough light to see where you are going. > > > > Running with fog lamps alone does not provide enough light to see where you > > are going. What fog lights do is light up the the fog from a different angle > > than the head lights, which cuts the reflected light from the head lights. > > You need headlamps and fog lights at the same time. |
Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
That is most certainly true during hours of darmness, but it might not be
quite so true during the day. I can cehck, if anybody cares. "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:3FBBF72F.6A623A0B@cox.net... > Hi Jeff, > Plus it's against the law here in Kalyfornia to drive with just the > fog lights: http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d12/vc24403.htm > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > CRWLR wrote: > > > > That's not true at all, you need both fog lamps and head lights at the same > > time to have enough light to see where you are going. > > > > Running with fog lamps alone does not provide enough light to see where you > > are going. What fog lights do is light up the the fog from a different angle > > than the head lights, which cuts the reflected light from the head lights. > > You need headlamps and fog lights at the same time. |
Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
Hi Jeff,
It would probably be under the as law as parking lights, that may not be used on the road without headlights on, I would presume that would be day or night, as it's not specified. I don't care enough research it, just so others won't get the ticket. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ CRWLR wrote: > > That is most certainly true during hours of darmness, but it might not be > quite so true during the day. I can cehck, if anybody cares. |
Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
Hi Jeff,
It would probably be under the as law as parking lights, that may not be used on the road without headlights on, I would presume that would be day or night, as it's not specified. I don't care enough research it, just so others won't get the ticket. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ CRWLR wrote: > > That is most certainly true during hours of darmness, but it might not be > quite so true during the day. I can cehck, if anybody cares. |
Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
Hi Jeff,
It would probably be under the as law as parking lights, that may not be used on the road without headlights on, I would presume that would be day or night, as it's not specified. I don't care enough research it, just so others won't get the ticket. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ CRWLR wrote: > > That is most certainly true during hours of darmness, but it might not be > quite so true during the day. I can cehck, if anybody cares. |
Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
I have driven in fog so thick, that you could not see 10 feet in front of
the vehicle with the headlights on. I still maintain that in dense fog, the headlights reflect way too much light back into the driver's eyes. Tom "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:vrnpfsilerjhd3@corp.supernews.com... > snip > > That's not true at all, you need both fog lamps and head lights at the same > time to have enough light to see where you are going. > > Running with fog lamps alone does not provide enough light to see where you > are going. What fog lights do is light up the the fog from a different angle > than the head lights, which cuts the reflected light from the head lights. > You need headlamps and fog lights at the same time. > |
Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
I have driven in fog so thick, that you could not see 10 feet in front of
the vehicle with the headlights on. I still maintain that in dense fog, the headlights reflect way too much light back into the driver's eyes. Tom "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:vrnpfsilerjhd3@corp.supernews.com... > snip > > That's not true at all, you need both fog lamps and head lights at the same > time to have enough light to see where you are going. > > Running with fog lamps alone does not provide enough light to see where you > are going. What fog lights do is light up the the fog from a different angle > than the head lights, which cuts the reflected light from the head lights. > You need headlamps and fog lights at the same time. > |
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