Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
 

mabar did pass the time by typing:

> It is NOT, repeat NOT illegal to have your fog lights on along with your
> high beams. In fact in Ohio, you can have a total of 5 lights on the front
> of a vehicle lighted while on a roadway. They can be headlights, along with
> any combination of auxiliary lights, fogs included.


Some of us aren't in Ohio. It's illegal to have fogs and high-beams on in
Oklahoma. Except if your off-road. Technically, defeating the interlock
is also illegal. But as anyone might suspect it's not enforced unless you
do something to irritate the police and they are looking for writeups.

It's also illegal to run the fogs without headlights. I almost got a ticket
for that but fortunately the cop bought my story of a blown fuse. In reality
I moved the relays power fuse from constant 12v to the lowbeam line.
(I had it set up so it could be run legally and bypassed by moving the fuse)

In Oklahoma it's three lights max (four if you have dual headlamps). All
others and all lights above 3' off the ground must be covered while on the
roadways. (also not heavily enforced)

> When driving off-road, especially on dark forest trails or roads, I use my
> high beams and fogs to get as much light as possible. The fogs are
> especially good for lighting the sides of the road to help avoid deer, etc.

Agreed.

--
DougW

Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
 

mabar did pass the time by typing:

> It is NOT, repeat NOT illegal to have your fog lights on along with your
> high beams. In fact in Ohio, you can have a total of 5 lights on the front
> of a vehicle lighted while on a roadway. They can be headlights, along with
> any combination of auxiliary lights, fogs included.


Some of us aren't in Ohio. It's illegal to have fogs and high-beams on in
Oklahoma. Except if your off-road. Technically, defeating the interlock
is also illegal. But as anyone might suspect it's not enforced unless you
do something to irritate the police and they are looking for writeups.

It's also illegal to run the fogs without headlights. I almost got a ticket
for that but fortunately the cop bought my story of a blown fuse. In reality
I moved the relays power fuse from constant 12v to the lowbeam line.
(I had it set up so it could be run legally and bypassed by moving the fuse)

In Oklahoma it's three lights max (four if you have dual headlamps). All
others and all lights above 3' off the ground must be covered while on the
roadways. (also not heavily enforced)

> When driving off-road, especially on dark forest trails or roads, I use my
> high beams and fogs to get as much light as possible. The fogs are
> especially good for lighting the sides of the road to help avoid deer, etc.

Agreed.

--
DougW

Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
 

mabar did pass the time by typing:

> It is NOT, repeat NOT illegal to have your fog lights on along with your
> high beams. In fact in Ohio, you can have a total of 5 lights on the front
> of a vehicle lighted while on a roadway. They can be headlights, along with
> any combination of auxiliary lights, fogs included.


Some of us aren't in Ohio. It's illegal to have fogs and high-beams on in
Oklahoma. Except if your off-road. Technically, defeating the interlock
is also illegal. But as anyone might suspect it's not enforced unless you
do something to irritate the police and they are looking for writeups.

It's also illegal to run the fogs without headlights. I almost got a ticket
for that but fortunately the cop bought my story of a blown fuse. In reality
I moved the relays power fuse from constant 12v to the lowbeam line.
(I had it set up so it could be run legally and bypassed by moving the fuse)

In Oklahoma it's three lights max (four if you have dual headlamps). All
others and all lights above 3' off the ground must be covered while on the
roadways. (also not heavily enforced)

> When driving off-road, especially on dark forest trails or roads, I use my
> high beams and fogs to get as much light as possible. The fogs are
> especially good for lighting the sides of the road to help avoid deer, etc.

Agreed.

--
DougW

Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
 

Approximately 11/18/03 13:29, L.W.(ßill) ------ III uttered for posterity:

> I'm another that rewire their stock fog lights to also light with
> the high beams. High beams are the only way to go on a lonely twisting
> mountain road, but without the side lighting the fog lights give, I
> can't tell where in the road I am or if the high lights that are not
> reflecting off of any thing means I'm about to drive off a cliff.

Isn't it easier to just put a good set of relays at the lights
and wire them so the low beam comes on even when the high beam
does? The low beam usually has a much brighter and wider pattern
than a fog... not that it is hard to also set up so the fogs
come on as well.

--
My governor can kick your governor's ass

Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
 

Approximately 11/18/03 13:29, L.W.(ßill) ------ III uttered for posterity:

> I'm another that rewire their stock fog lights to also light with
> the high beams. High beams are the only way to go on a lonely twisting
> mountain road, but without the side lighting the fog lights give, I
> can't tell where in the road I am or if the high lights that are not
> reflecting off of any thing means I'm about to drive off a cliff.

Isn't it easier to just put a good set of relays at the lights
and wire them so the low beam comes on even when the high beam
does? The low beam usually has a much brighter and wider pattern
than a fog... not that it is hard to also set up so the fogs
come on as well.

--
My governor can kick your governor's ass

Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
 

Approximately 11/18/03 13:29, L.W.(ßill) ------ III uttered for posterity:

> I'm another that rewire their stock fog lights to also light with
> the high beams. High beams are the only way to go on a lonely twisting
> mountain road, but without the side lighting the fog lights give, I
> can't tell where in the road I am or if the high lights that are not
> reflecting off of any thing means I'm about to drive off a cliff.

Isn't it easier to just put a good set of relays at the lights
and wire them so the low beam comes on even when the high beam
does? The low beam usually has a much brighter and wider pattern
than a fog... not that it is hard to also set up so the fogs
come on as well.

--
My governor can kick your governor's ass

Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
 

> Some of us aren't in Ohio. It's illegal to have fogs and high-beams on in
> Oklahoma.

Same in California. I figured with a name like that, the questioner was in
San Francisco.

--
Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California

Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
 

> Some of us aren't in Ohio. It's illegal to have fogs and high-beams on in
> Oklahoma.

Same in California. I figured with a name like that, the questioner was in
San Francisco.

--
Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California

Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
 

> Some of us aren't in Ohio. It's illegal to have fogs and high-beams on in
> Oklahoma.

Same in California. I figured with a name like that, the questioner was in
San Francisco.

--
Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California

Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
 

I do not have a problem with people that add lights and the necessary wiring
to a vehicle.. there are light bars out there made for the job.. four KC's
on top will scare bears and deer, and can be angled to cover huge amounts of
ground.. a far more satisfactory solution than bending contacts on relays..

I will apologize for the 'idiot' label, but the 'I like to drive at high
speed... and now I have found a way to ensure that all front lights show
regardless of high/low beam' was like a red rag to a bull.. combine this
with a poster who asked if it was ok to fit 185/65-15's on Cherokee
Pepperpot rims, and you have a picture of how other road users see 4x4/SUV
divers and offroaders.. full of arrogance and with little or no respect for
safety of themselves or others, nature conservancy or the law..

I will go sit in my corner now and consider taking a happy pill.. lol



--
History is only the past if we choose to do nothing about it..

"Paul Calman" <spam@trap.com> wrote in message
news:bpejr1$1nl4bf$1@ID-87669.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > Some of us aren't in Ohio. It's illegal to have fogs and high-beams on
in
> > Oklahoma.
>
> Same in California. I figured with a name like that, the questioner was in
> San Francisco.
>
> --
> Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
>
>

Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
 

I do not have a problem with people that add lights and the necessary wiring
to a vehicle.. there are light bars out there made for the job.. four KC's
on top will scare bears and deer, and can be angled to cover huge amounts of
ground.. a far more satisfactory solution than bending contacts on relays..

I will apologize for the 'idiot' label, but the 'I like to drive at high
speed... and now I have found a way to ensure that all front lights show
regardless of high/low beam' was like a red rag to a bull.. combine this
with a poster who asked if it was ok to fit 185/65-15's on Cherokee
Pepperpot rims, and you have a picture of how other road users see 4x4/SUV
divers and offroaders.. full of arrogance and with little or no respect for
safety of themselves or others, nature conservancy or the law..

I will go sit in my corner now and consider taking a happy pill.. lol



--
History is only the past if we choose to do nothing about it..

"Paul Calman" <spam@trap.com> wrote in message
news:bpejr1$1nl4bf$1@ID-87669.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > Some of us aren't in Ohio. It's illegal to have fogs and high-beams on
in
> > Oklahoma.
>
> Same in California. I figured with a name like that, the questioner was in
> San Francisco.
>
> --
> Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
>
>

Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
 

I do not have a problem with people that add lights and the necessary wiring
to a vehicle.. there are light bars out there made for the job.. four KC's
on top will scare bears and deer, and can be angled to cover huge amounts of
ground.. a far more satisfactory solution than bending contacts on relays..

I will apologize for the 'idiot' label, but the 'I like to drive at high
speed... and now I have found a way to ensure that all front lights show
regardless of high/low beam' was like a red rag to a bull.. combine this
with a poster who asked if it was ok to fit 185/65-15's on Cherokee
Pepperpot rims, and you have a picture of how other road users see 4x4/SUV
divers and offroaders.. full of arrogance and with little or no respect for
safety of themselves or others, nature conservancy or the law..

I will go sit in my corner now and consider taking a happy pill.. lol



--
History is only the past if we choose to do nothing about it..

"Paul Calman" <spam@trap.com> wrote in message
news:bpejr1$1nl4bf$1@ID-87669.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > Some of us aren't in Ohio. It's illegal to have fogs and high-beams on
in
> > Oklahoma.
>
> Same in California. I figured with a name like that, the questioner was in
> San Francisco.
>
> --
> Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
>
>

Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
 

Hi Doug:

Can you point me to the Oklahoma law that says it's illegal to have fogs on
along with high beams, and the law that says you cannot run fogs without
headlights.

When driving in really dense fog, it's almost impossible to see if the
headlights are on. They reflect almost all the light back into the driver's
eyes in dense fog. The purpose of fogs is to throw a wide, low beam under
the fog so the light is not reflected back into the driver's eyes. Running
with both fogs and headlights on defeats the purpose of fog lights.

Tom

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:pvzub.2108$3z5.1311@okepread01...
snip>
> Some of us aren't in Ohio. It's illegal to have fogs and high-beams on in
> Oklahoma. Except if your off-road. Technically, defeating the interlock
> is also illegal. But as anyone might suspect it's not enforced unless you
> do something to irritate the police and they are looking for writeups.
>
> It's also illegal to run the fogs without headlights. I almost got a
ticket
> for that but fortunately the cop bought my story of a blown fuse. In
reality
> I moved the relays power fuse from constant 12v to the lowbeam line.
> (I had it set up so it could be run legally and bypassed by moving the
fuse)
>
> In Oklahoma it's three lights max (four if you have dual headlamps). All
> others and all lights above 3' off the ground must be covered while on the
> roadways. (also not heavily enforced)
snip
> DougW
>
>

Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
 

Hi Doug:

Can you point me to the Oklahoma law that says it's illegal to have fogs on
along with high beams, and the law that says you cannot run fogs without
headlights.

When driving in really dense fog, it's almost impossible to see if the
headlights are on. They reflect almost all the light back into the driver's
eyes in dense fog. The purpose of fogs is to throw a wide, low beam under
the fog so the light is not reflected back into the driver's eyes. Running
with both fogs and headlights on defeats the purpose of fog lights.

Tom

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:pvzub.2108$3z5.1311@okepread01...
snip>
> Some of us aren't in Ohio. It's illegal to have fogs and high-beams on in
> Oklahoma. Except if your off-road. Technically, defeating the interlock
> is also illegal. But as anyone might suspect it's not enforced unless you
> do something to irritate the police and they are looking for writeups.
>
> It's also illegal to run the fogs without headlights. I almost got a
ticket
> for that but fortunately the cop bought my story of a blown fuse. In
reality
> I moved the relays power fuse from constant 12v to the lowbeam line.
> (I had it set up so it could be run legally and bypassed by moving the
fuse)
>
> In Oklahoma it's three lights max (four if you have dual headlamps). All
> others and all lights above 3' off the ground must be covered while on the
> roadways. (also not heavily enforced)
snip
> DougW
>
>

Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
 

Hi Doug:

Can you point me to the Oklahoma law that says it's illegal to have fogs on
along with high beams, and the law that says you cannot run fogs without
headlights.

When driving in really dense fog, it's almost impossible to see if the
headlights are on. They reflect almost all the light back into the driver's
eyes in dense fog. The purpose of fogs is to throw a wide, low beam under
the fog so the light is not reflected back into the driver's eyes. Running
with both fogs and headlights on defeats the purpose of fog lights.

Tom

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:pvzub.2108$3z5.1311@okepread01...
snip>
> Some of us aren't in Ohio. It's illegal to have fogs and high-beams on in
> Oklahoma. Except if your off-road. Technically, defeating the interlock
> is also illegal. But as anyone might suspect it's not enforced unless you
> do something to irritate the police and they are looking for writeups.
>
> It's also illegal to run the fogs without headlights. I almost got a
ticket
> for that but fortunately the cop bought my story of a blown fuse. In
reality
> I moved the relays power fuse from constant 12v to the lowbeam line.
> (I had it set up so it could be run legally and bypassed by moving the
fuse)
>
> In Oklahoma it's three lights max (four if you have dual headlamps). All
> others and all lights above 3' off the ground must be covered while on the
> roadways. (also not heavily enforced)
snip
> DougW
>
>

Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
 

Very good San Fran comment! I am from Pennsylvania and I do not know what
the state law is concerning fog lights, high beams and so on but I will do
my homework.



I guess I will just have to come up with a new 'handle' and toss out the
name Smegma Breath. Maybe something Jeep related (all suggestions will be
appreciated).



Thanks for all the great feedback concerning fog lights and high beams.
This newsgroup has to be the best information source for everything Jeep!





"Paul Calman" <spam@trap.com> wrote in message
news:bpejr1$1nl4bf$1@ID-87669.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > Some of us aren't in Ohio. It's illegal to have fogs and high-beams on
in
> > Oklahoma.
>
> Same in California. I figured with a name like that, the questioner was in
> San Francisco.
>
> --
> Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
>
>

Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
 

Very good San Fran comment! I am from Pennsylvania and I do not know what
the state law is concerning fog lights, high beams and so on but I will do
my homework.



I guess I will just have to come up with a new 'handle' and toss out the
name Smegma Breath. Maybe something Jeep related (all suggestions will be
appreciated).



Thanks for all the great feedback concerning fog lights and high beams.
This newsgroup has to be the best information source for everything Jeep!





"Paul Calman" <spam@trap.com> wrote in message
news:bpejr1$1nl4bf$1@ID-87669.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > Some of us aren't in Ohio. It's illegal to have fogs and high-beams on
in
> > Oklahoma.
>
> Same in California. I figured with a name like that, the questioner was in
> San Francisco.
>
> --
> Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
>
>

Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
 

Very good San Fran comment! I am from Pennsylvania and I do not know what
the state law is concerning fog lights, high beams and so on but I will do
my homework.



I guess I will just have to come up with a new 'handle' and toss out the
name Smegma Breath. Maybe something Jeep related (all suggestions will be
appreciated).



Thanks for all the great feedback concerning fog lights and high beams.
This newsgroup has to be the best information source for everything Jeep!





"Paul Calman" <spam@trap.com> wrote in message
news:bpejr1$1nl4bf$1@ID-87669.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > Some of us aren't in Ohio. It's illegal to have fogs and high-beams on
in
> > Oklahoma.
>
> Same in California. I figured with a name like that, the questioner was in
> San Francisco.
>
> --
> Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
>
>

Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
 

I can see how that would be a tough decision to lose such a moniker. How
about "Festering Pus Hole" or "Oozing Shanker"? Ok, ok, not good
either. I do notice that your mostly legitimate posts get lost in
comments about your handle, so I think you're making the right move. Let
us know what it is when you do it.

Smegma Breath wrote:
> I guess I will just have to come up with a new 'handle' and toss out the
> name Smegma Breath. Maybe something Jeep related (all suggestions will be
> appreciated).

--
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-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
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Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
 

I can see how that would be a tough decision to lose such a moniker. How
about "Festering Pus Hole" or "Oozing Shanker"? Ok, ok, not good
either. I do notice that your mostly legitimate posts get lost in
comments about your handle, so I think you're making the right move. Let
us know what it is when you do it.

Smegma Breath wrote:
> I guess I will just have to come up with a new 'handle' and toss out the
> name Smegma Breath. Maybe something Jeep related (all suggestions will be
> appreciated).

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
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Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
 

I can see how that would be a tough decision to lose such a moniker. How
about "Festering Pus Hole" or "Oozing Shanker"? Ok, ok, not good
either. I do notice that your mostly legitimate posts get lost in
comments about your handle, so I think you're making the right move. Let
us know what it is when you do it.

Smegma Breath wrote:
> I guess I will just have to come up with a new 'handle' and toss out the
> name Smegma Breath. Maybe something Jeep related (all suggestions will be
> appreciated).

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
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Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
 

On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 14:43:41 GMT, "Smegma Breath" <tchilson@penn.com>
shared the following:

>Very good San Fran comment! I am from Pennsylvania and I do not know what
>the state law is concerning fog lights, high beams and so on but I will do
>my homework.
>
>I guess I will just have to come up with a new 'handle' and toss out the
>name Smegma Breath. Maybe something Jeep related (all suggestions will be
>appreciated).

Smegma Jeep? :-) How about Jeep-Penn or JeepPenn or JeePenn? Like
"Jeepin'" except it's Jeep and Penn, like Pennsylvania?
*pats self on back for semi-creative suggestion*



--
Travis
http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
:wq!

Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
 

On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 14:43:41 GMT, "Smegma Breath" <tchilson@penn.com>
shared the following:

>Very good San Fran comment! I am from Pennsylvania and I do not know what
>the state law is concerning fog lights, high beams and so on but I will do
>my homework.
>
>I guess I will just have to come up with a new 'handle' and toss out the
>name Smegma Breath. Maybe something Jeep related (all suggestions will be
>appreciated).

Smegma Jeep? :-) How about Jeep-Penn or JeepPenn or JeePenn? Like
"Jeepin'" except it's Jeep and Penn, like Pennsylvania?
*pats self on back for semi-creative suggestion*



--
Travis
http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
:wq!

Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
 

On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 14:43:41 GMT, "Smegma Breath" <tchilson@penn.com>
shared the following:

>Very good San Fran comment! I am from Pennsylvania and I do not know what
>the state law is concerning fog lights, high beams and so on but I will do
>my homework.
>
>I guess I will just have to come up with a new 'handle' and toss out the
>name Smegma Breath. Maybe something Jeep related (all suggestions will be
>appreciated).

Smegma Jeep? :-) How about Jeep-Penn or JeepPenn or JeePenn? Like
"Jeepin'" except it's Jeep and Penn, like Pennsylvania?
*pats self on back for semi-creative suggestion*



--
Travis
http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
:wq!

Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
 

Not bad, travis. A lot better than mine. :) I like JeePenn.

travis wrote:

> On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 14:43:41 GMT, "Smegma Breath" <tchilson@penn.com>
> shared the following:
>
>
>>Very good San Fran comment! I am from Pennsylvania and I do not know what
>>the state law is concerning fog lights, high beams and so on but I will do
>>my homework.
>>
>>I guess I will just have to come up with a new 'handle' and toss out the
>>name Smegma Breath. Maybe something Jeep related (all suggestions will be
>>appreciated).
>
>
> Smegma Jeep? :-) How about Jeep-Penn or JeepPenn or JeePenn? Like
> "Jeepin'" except it's Jeep and Penn, like Pennsylvania?
> *pats self on back for semi-creative suggestion*
>
>
>
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> :wq!

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

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(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
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Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
 

Not bad, travis. A lot better than mine. :) I like JeePenn.

travis wrote:

> On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 14:43:41 GMT, "Smegma Breath" <tchilson@penn.com>
> shared the following:
>
>
>>Very good San Fran comment! I am from Pennsylvania and I do not know what
>>the state law is concerning fog lights, high beams and so on but I will do
>>my homework.
>>
>>I guess I will just have to come up with a new 'handle' and toss out the
>>name Smegma Breath. Maybe something Jeep related (all suggestions will be
>>appreciated).
>
>
> Smegma Jeep? :-) How about Jeep-Penn or JeepPenn or JeePenn? Like
> "Jeepin'" except it's Jeep and Penn, like Pennsylvania?
> *pats self on back for semi-creative suggestion*
>
>
>
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> :wq!

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________

Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
 

Not bad, travis. A lot better than mine. :) I like JeePenn.

travis wrote:

> On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 14:43:41 GMT, "Smegma Breath" <tchilson@penn.com>
> shared the following:
>
>
>>Very good San Fran comment! I am from Pennsylvania and I do not know what
>>the state law is concerning fog lights, high beams and so on but I will do
>>my homework.
>>
>>I guess I will just have to come up with a new 'handle' and toss out the
>>name Smegma Breath. Maybe something Jeep related (all suggestions will be
>>appreciated).
>
>
> Smegma Jeep? :-) How about Jeep-Penn or JeepPenn or JeePenn? Like
> "Jeepin'" except it's Jeep and Penn, like Pennsylvania?
> *pats self on back for semi-creative suggestion*
>
>
>
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> :wq!

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________

Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
 

So it is bye bye Smegma Breath, hello JeePenn! A side benefit from losing
the Smegma Breath handle is that I will probably get more dates :).


"twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
news:_iMub.10$8C1.4237469@newssvr11.news.prodigy.c om...
> Not bad, travis. A lot better than mine. :) I like JeePenn.
>
> travis wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 14:43:41 GMT, "Smegma Breath" <tchilson@penn.com>
> > shared the following:
> >
> >
> >>Very good San Fran comment! I am from Pennsylvania and I do not know
what
> >>the state law is concerning fog lights, high beams and so on but I will
do
> >>my homework.
> >>
> >>I guess I will just have to come up with a new 'handle' and toss out the
> >>name Smegma Breath. Maybe something Jeep related (all suggestions will
be
> >>appreciated).
> >
> >
> > Smegma Jeep? :-) How about Jeep-Penn or JeepPenn or JeePenn? Like
> > "Jeepin'" except it's Jeep and Penn, like Pennsylvania?
> > *pats self on back for semi-creative suggestion*
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Travis
> > http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> > The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> > :wq!
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
> 03 TJ Rubicon
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>

Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
 

So it is bye bye Smegma Breath, hello JeePenn! A side benefit from losing
the Smegma Breath handle is that I will probably get more dates :).


"twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
news:_iMub.10$8C1.4237469@newssvr11.news.prodigy.c om...
> Not bad, travis. A lot better than mine. :) I like JeePenn.
>
> travis wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 14:43:41 GMT, "Smegma Breath" <tchilson@penn.com>
> > shared the following:
> >
> >
> >>Very good San Fran comment! I am from Pennsylvania and I do not know
what
> >>the state law is concerning fog lights, high beams and so on but I will
do
> >>my homework.
> >>
> >>I guess I will just have to come up with a new 'handle' and toss out the
> >>name Smegma Breath. Maybe something Jeep related (all suggestions will
be
> >>appreciated).
> >
> >
> > Smegma Jeep? :-) How about Jeep-Penn or JeepPenn or JeePenn? Like
> > "Jeepin'" except it's Jeep and Penn, like Pennsylvania?
> > *pats self on back for semi-creative suggestion*
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Travis
> > http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> > The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> > :wq!
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
> 03 TJ Rubicon
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>

Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
 

So it is bye bye Smegma Breath, hello JeePenn! A side benefit from losing
the Smegma Breath handle is that I will probably get more dates :).


"twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
news:_iMub.10$8C1.4237469@newssvr11.news.prodigy.c om...
> Not bad, travis. A lot better than mine. :) I like JeePenn.
>
> travis wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 14:43:41 GMT, "Smegma Breath" <tchilson@penn.com>
> > shared the following:
> >
> >
> >>Very good San Fran comment! I am from Pennsylvania and I do not know
what
> >>the state law is concerning fog lights, high beams and so on but I will
do
> >>my homework.
> >>
> >>I guess I will just have to come up with a new 'handle' and toss out the
> >>name Smegma Breath. Maybe something Jeep related (all suggestions will
be
> >>appreciated).
> >
> >
> > Smegma Jeep? :-) How about Jeep-Penn or JeepPenn or JeePenn? Like
> > "Jeepin'" except it's Jeep and Penn, like Pennsylvania?
> > *pats self on back for semi-creative suggestion*
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Travis
> > http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> > The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> > :wq!
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
> 03 TJ Rubicon
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>

Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
 

In article <6RMub.8063$Rk5.4176@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink. net>,
"JeePenn" <tchilson@penn.com> wrote:

> So it is bye bye Smegma Breath, hello JeePenn! A side benefit from losing
> the Smegma Breath handle is that I will probably get more dates :).

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"JeePenn" <tchilson@penn.com> wrote:

> So it is bye bye Smegma Breath, hello JeePenn! A side benefit from losing
> the Smegma Breath handle is that I will probably get more dates :).

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"JeePenn" <tchilson@penn.com> wrote:

> So it is bye bye Smegma Breath, hello JeePenn! A side benefit from losing
> the Smegma Breath handle is that I will probably get more dates :).

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Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
 

I checked out the link you provided along with the part number 6314 and
found the following description:

Quad Beam headlight conversion kit - keeps low beams on when high beams are
activated. Works with most pre-2000 GM's (old body style) and 2003 full
size GM's.

The description sounds as if it is for GM products only. 1) Is this what I
need for my 2000 Wrangler and 2) from the picture, it appears that the kit
is for one light, meaning that I will need to buy 2 kits (one per light)?



"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:3FBABE25.863E8237@cox.net...
> I thought I was the only one whom wired low and high beams
> together. I worried a little about whether my alternator would keep up
> idling over the dunes, but they never dimmed:
> http://----------.com/comphill.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> mabar wrote:
> >
> > I have read this entire thread and can't understand why you got some of
> > those nasty responses. You asked a legitimate question. It's true that
fog
> > lights are designed to be able to see better in fog. Adjusted properly,
they
> > throw a wide, low beam and are much more effective in fog than regular
> > headlights. In heavy fog, you should slow down, and use your fogs along
with
> > your parking lights, NOT headlights. Headlights can be blinding in heavy
fog
> > because so much light is reflected back into the driver's eyes.
> >
> > Your question was not about fog, it was about using the fogs with the
high
> > beams.
> >
> > It is NOT, repeat NOT illegal to have your fog lights on along with your
> > high beams. In fact in Ohio, you can have a total of 5 lights on the
front
> > of a vehicle lighted while on a roadway. They can be headlights, along
with
> > any combination of auxiliary lights, fogs included.
> >
> > When driving off-road, especially on dark forest trails or roads, I use
my
> > high beams and fogs to get as much light as possible. The fogs are
> > especially good for lighting the sides of the road to help avoid deer,
etc.
> >
> > Here are the directions for getting your fogs to work with your high
beams:
> >
> > On the '01 or '02 TJ, to get the fog lights to stay on with the high
beams,
> > follow these instructions:
> >
> > Find the #35 fog lamp relay inside the main fuse box, which is on the
> > passenger side of the engine under the hood. The relay is clearly
marked on
> > a diagram on the inside cover of the main fuse box.
> >
> > Pull the relay straight up and out of the socket. Carefully and slowly
bend
> > the #1 pin (it's marked) 180 degrees around to the side of the plastic
> > relay, so it will not make contact with its female socket when the relay
is
> > re-inserted.
> >
> > Re-insert the relay and you're done. You can now turn on the fogs with
> > either low beam or high beam headlights.
> >
> > On 1997-2000 TJs the relay is located behind the glove box door. You
remove
> > the glove box door and pull relay #2 (the one on the right) and bend pin
#1
> > (it's labeled.) Put the relay back in and test. If you have no fogs you
> > pulled the wrong relay. Just switch them and it should work.
> >
> > On another subject, for those who want more light when the bright
headlights
> > are on, install a KC Hilites Quad Beam Conversion Kit. It's part #6314
at
> > www.kchilites.com. This allows the low beam filaments to stay on along
with
> > the high beam filaments. The factory setup turns off the low filament
when
> > high beams are turned on. It works for 2-headlight systems and
4-headlight
> > systems. I did this on my 1994 Chevy Van, 1999 Chevy Van and my 2002 TJ.
> > Works great.
> >
> > Tom

Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
 

I checked out the link you provided along with the part number 6314 and
found the following description:

Quad Beam headlight conversion kit - keeps low beams on when high beams are
activated. Works with most pre-2000 GM's (old body style) and 2003 full
size GM's.

The description sounds as if it is for GM products only. 1) Is this what I
need for my 2000 Wrangler and 2) from the picture, it appears that the kit
is for one light, meaning that I will need to buy 2 kits (one per light)?



"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:3FBABE25.863E8237@cox.net...
> I thought I was the only one whom wired low and high beams
> together. I worried a little about whether my alternator would keep up
> idling over the dunes, but they never dimmed:
> http://----------.com/comphill.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> mabar wrote:
> >
> > I have read this entire thread and can't understand why you got some of
> > those nasty responses. You asked a legitimate question. It's true that
fog
> > lights are designed to be able to see better in fog. Adjusted properly,
they
> > throw a wide, low beam and are much more effective in fog than regular
> > headlights. In heavy fog, you should slow down, and use your fogs along
with
> > your parking lights, NOT headlights. Headlights can be blinding in heavy
fog
> > because so much light is reflected back into the driver's eyes.
> >
> > Your question was not about fog, it was about using the fogs with the
high
> > beams.
> >
> > It is NOT, repeat NOT illegal to have your fog lights on along with your
> > high beams. In fact in Ohio, you can have a total of 5 lights on the
front
> > of a vehicle lighted while on a roadway. They can be headlights, along
with
> > any combination of auxiliary lights, fogs included.
> >
> > When driving off-road, especially on dark forest trails or roads, I use
my
> > high beams and fogs to get as much light as possible. The fogs are
> > especially good for lighting the sides of the road to help avoid deer,
etc.
> >
> > Here are the directions for getting your fogs to work with your high
beams:
> >
> > On the '01 or '02 TJ, to get the fog lights to stay on with the high
beams,
> > follow these instructions:
> >
> > Find the #35 fog lamp relay inside the main fuse box, which is on the
> > passenger side of the engine under the hood. The relay is clearly
marked on
> > a diagram on the inside cover of the main fuse box.
> >
> > Pull the relay straight up and out of the socket. Carefully and slowly
bend
> > the #1 pin (it's marked) 180 degrees around to the side of the plastic
> > relay, so it will not make contact with its female socket when the relay
is
> > re-inserted.
> >
> > Re-insert the relay and you're done. You can now turn on the fogs with
> > either low beam or high beam headlights.
> >
> > On 1997-2000 TJs the relay is located behind the glove box door. You
remove
> > the glove box door and pull relay #2 (the one on the right) and bend pin
#1
> > (it's labeled.) Put the relay back in and test. If you have no fogs you
> > pulled the wrong relay. Just switch them and it should work.
> >
> > On another subject, for those who want more light when the bright
headlights
> > are on, install a KC Hilites Quad Beam Conversion Kit. It's part #6314
at
> > www.kchilites.com. This allows the low beam filaments to stay on along
with
> > the high beam filaments. The factory setup turns off the low filament
when
> > high beams are turned on. It works for 2-headlight systems and
4-headlight
> > systems. I did this on my 1994 Chevy Van, 1999 Chevy Van and my 2002 TJ.
> > Works great.
> >
> > Tom

Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
 

I checked out the link you provided along with the part number 6314 and
found the following description:

Quad Beam headlight conversion kit - keeps low beams on when high beams are
activated. Works with most pre-2000 GM's (old body style) and 2003 full
size GM's.

The description sounds as if it is for GM products only. 1) Is this what I
need for my 2000 Wrangler and 2) from the picture, it appears that the kit
is for one light, meaning that I will need to buy 2 kits (one per light)?



"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:3FBABE25.863E8237@cox.net...
> I thought I was the only one whom wired low and high beams
> together. I worried a little about whether my alternator would keep up
> idling over the dunes, but they never dimmed:
> http://----------.com/comphill.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> mabar wrote:
> >
> > I have read this entire thread and can't understand why you got some of
> > those nasty responses. You asked a legitimate question. It's true that
fog
> > lights are designed to be able to see better in fog. Adjusted properly,
they
> > throw a wide, low beam and are much more effective in fog than regular
> > headlights. In heavy fog, you should slow down, and use your fogs along
with
> > your parking lights, NOT headlights. Headlights can be blinding in heavy
fog
> > because so much light is reflected back into the driver's eyes.
> >
> > Your question was not about fog, it was about using the fogs with the
high
> > beams.
> >
> > It is NOT, repeat NOT illegal to have your fog lights on along with your
> > high beams. In fact in Ohio, you can have a total of 5 lights on the
front
> > of a vehicle lighted while on a roadway. They can be headlights, along
with
> > any combination of auxiliary lights, fogs included.
> >
> > When driving off-road, especially on dark forest trails or roads, I use
my
> > high beams and fogs to get as much light as possible. The fogs are
> > especially good for lighting the sides of the road to help avoid deer,
etc.
> >
> > Here are the directions for getting your fogs to work with your high
beams:
> >
> > On the '01 or '02 TJ, to get the fog lights to stay on with the high
beams,
> > follow these instructions:
> >
> > Find the #35 fog lamp relay inside the main fuse box, which is on the
> > passenger side of the engine under the hood. The relay is clearly
marked on
> > a diagram on the inside cover of the main fuse box.
> >
> > Pull the relay straight up and out of the socket. Carefully and slowly
bend
> > the #1 pin (it's marked) 180 degrees around to the side of the plastic
> > relay, so it will not make contact with its female socket when the relay
is
> > re-inserted.
> >
> > Re-insert the relay and you're done. You can now turn on the fogs with
> > either low beam or high beam headlights.
> >
> > On 1997-2000 TJs the relay is located behind the glove box door. You
remove
> > the glove box door and pull relay #2 (the one on the right) and bend pin
#1
> > (it's labeled.) Put the relay back in and test. If you have no fogs you
> > pulled the wrong relay. Just switch them and it should work.
> >
> > On another subject, for those who want more light when the bright
headlights
> > are on, install a KC Hilites Quad Beam Conversion Kit. It's part #6314
at
> > www.kchilites.com. This allows the low beam filaments to stay on along
with
> > the high beam filaments. The factory setup turns off the low filament
when
> > high beams are turned on. It works for 2-headlight systems and
4-headlight
> > systems. I did this on my 1994 Chevy Van, 1999 Chevy Van and my 2002 TJ.
> > Works great.
> >
> > Tom

Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
 

I'm not sure why part #6314 is described that way. I used that part number
(only need one kit) on my '02 TJ and it works fine.

You could call KC Hilites at 928-635-2607, or contact them by email at:
http://www.kchilites.com/contact.html
and double check with them before ordering.

Tom


"JeePenn" <tchilson@penn.com> wrote in message
news:z4Nub.8067$Rk5.4829@newsread1.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
> I checked out the link you provided along with the part number 6314 and
> found the following description:
>
> Quad Beam headlight conversion kit - keeps low beams on when high beams
are
> activated. Works with most pre-2000 GM's (old body style) and 2003 full
> size GM's.
>
> The description sounds as if it is for GM products only. 1) Is this what
I
> need for my 2000 Wrangler and 2) from the picture, it appears that the kit
> is for one light, meaning that I will need to buy 2 kits (one per light)?
>
>
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:3FBABE25.863E8237@cox.net...
> > I thought I was the only one whom wired low and high beams
> > together. I worried a little about whether my alternator would keep up
> > idling over the dunes, but they never dimmed:
> > http://----------.com/comphill.jpg
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:--------------------
> >
> > mabar wrote:
> > >
> > > I have read this entire thread and can't understand why you got some
of
> > > those nasty responses. You asked a legitimate question. It's true that
> fog
> > > lights are designed to be able to see better in fog. Adjusted
properly,
> they
> > > throw a wide, low beam and are much more effective in fog than regular
> > > headlights. In heavy fog, you should slow down, and use your fogs
along
> with
> > > your parking lights, NOT headlights. Headlights can be blinding in
heavy
> fog
> > > because so much light is reflected back into the driver's eyes.
> > >
> > > Your question was not about fog, it was about using the fogs with the

> high
> > > beams.
> > >
> > > It is NOT, repeat NOT illegal to have your fog lights on along with
your
> > > high beams. In fact in Ohio, you can have a total of 5 lights on the
> front
> > > of a vehicle lighted while on a roadway. They can be headlights, along
> with
> > > any combination of auxiliary lights, fogs included.
> > >
> > > When driving off-road, especially on dark forest trails or roads, I
use
> my
> > > high beams and fogs to get as much light as possible. The fogs are
> > > especially good for lighting the sides of the road to help avoid deer,
> etc.
> > >
> > > Here are the directions for getting your fogs to work with your high
> beams:
> > >
> > > On the '01 or '02 TJ, to get the fog lights to stay on with the high
> beams,
> > > follow these instructions:
> > >
> > > Find the #35 fog lamp relay inside the main fuse box, which is on the
> > > passenger side of the engine under the hood. The relay is clearly
> marked on
> > > a diagram on the inside cover of the main fuse box.
> > >
> > > Pull the relay straight up and out of the socket. Carefully and slowly
> bend
> > > the #1 pin (it's marked) 180 degrees around to the side of the plastic
> > > relay, so it will not make contact with its female socket when the
relay
> is
> > > re-inserted.
> > >
> > > Re-insert the relay and you're done. You can now turn on the fogs with
> > > either low beam or high beam headlights.
> > >
> > > On 1997-2000 TJs the relay is located behind the glove box door. You
> remove
> > > the glove box door and pull relay #2 (the one on the right) and bend
pin
> #1
> > > (it's labeled.) Put the relay back in and test. If you have no fogs
you
> > > pulled the wrong relay. Just switch them and it should work.
> > >
> > > On another subject, for those who want more light when the bright
> headlights
> > > are on, install a KC Hilites Quad Beam Conversion Kit. It's part #6314
> at
> > > www.kchilites.com. This allows the low beam filaments to stay on along
> with
> > > the high beam filaments. The factory setup turns off the low filament
> when
> > > high beams are turned on. It works for 2-headlight systems and
> 4-headlight
> > > systems. I did this on my 1994 Chevy Van, 1999 Chevy Van and my 2002
TJ.
> > > Works great.
> > >
> > > Tom
>
>

Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
 

I'm not sure why part #6314 is described that way. I used that part number
(only need one kit) on my '02 TJ and it works fine.

You could call KC Hilites at 928-635-2607, or contact them by email at:
http://www.kchilites.com/contact.html
and double check with them before ordering.

Tom


"JeePenn" <tchilson@penn.com> wrote in message
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> I checked out the link you provided along with the part number 6314 and
> found the following description:
>
> Quad Beam headlight conversion kit - keeps low beams on when high beams
are
> activated. Works with most pre-2000 GM's (old body style) and 2003 full
> size GM's.
>
> The description sounds as if it is for GM products only. 1) Is this what
I
> need for my 2000 Wrangler and 2) from the picture, it appears that the kit
> is for one light, meaning that I will need to buy 2 kits (one per light)?
>
>
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:3FBABE25.863E8237@cox.net...
> > I thought I was the only one whom wired low and high beams
> > together. I worried a little about whether my alternator would keep up
> > idling over the dunes, but they never dimmed:
> > http://----------.com/comphill.jpg
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:--------------------
> >
> > mabar wrote:
> > >
> > > I have read this entire thread and can't understand why you got some
of
> > > those nasty responses. You asked a legitimate question. It's true that
> fog
> > > lights are designed to be able to see better in fog. Adjusted
properly,
> they
> > > throw a wide, low beam and are much more effective in fog than regular
> > > headlights. In heavy fog, you should slow down, and use your fogs
along
> with
> > > your parking lights, NOT headlights. Headlights can be blinding in
heavy
> fog
> > > because so much light is reflected back into the driver's eyes.
> > >
> > > Your question was not about fog, it was about using the fogs with the

> high
> > > beams.
> > >
> > > It is NOT, repeat NOT illegal to have your fog lights on along with
your
> > > high beams. In fact in Ohio, you can have a total of 5 lights on the
> front
> > > of a vehicle lighted while on a roadway. They can be headlights, along
> with
> > > any combination of auxiliary lights, fogs included.
> > >
> > > When driving off-road, especially on dark forest trails or roads, I
use
> my
> > > high beams and fogs to get as much light as possible. The fogs are
> > > especially good for lighting the sides of the road to help avoid deer,
> etc.
> > >
> > > Here are the directions for getting your fogs to work with your high
> beams:
> > >
> > > On the '01 or '02 TJ, to get the fog lights to stay on with the high
> beams,
> > > follow these instructions:
> > >
> > > Find the #35 fog lamp relay inside the main fuse box, which is on the
> > > passenger side of the engine under the hood. The relay is clearly
> marked on
> > > a diagram on the inside cover of the main fuse box.
> > >
> > > Pull the relay straight up and out of the socket. Carefully and slowly
> bend
> > > the #1 pin (it's marked) 180 degrees around to the side of the plastic
> > > relay, so it will not make contact with its female socket when the
relay
> is
> > > re-inserted.
> > >
> > > Re-insert the relay and you're done. You can now turn on the fogs with
> > > either low beam or high beam headlights.
> > >
> > > On 1997-2000 TJs the relay is located behind the glove box door. You
> remove
> > > the glove box door and pull relay #2 (the one on the right) and bend
pin
> #1
> > > (it's labeled.) Put the relay back in and test. If you have no fogs
you
> > > pulled the wrong relay. Just switch them and it should work.
> > >
> > > On another subject, for those who want more light when the bright
> headlights
> > > are on, install a KC Hilites Quad Beam Conversion Kit. It's part #6314
> at
> > > www.kchilites.com. This allows the low beam filaments to stay on along
> with
> > > the high beam filaments. The factory setup turns off the low filament
> when
> > > high beams are turned on. It works for 2-headlight systems and
> 4-headlight
> > > systems. I did this on my 1994 Chevy Van, 1999 Chevy Van and my 2002
TJ.
> > > Works great.
> > >
> > > Tom
>
>

Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
 

I'm not sure why part #6314 is described that way. I used that part number
(only need one kit) on my '02 TJ and it works fine.

You could call KC Hilites at 928-635-2607, or contact them by email at:
http://www.kchilites.com/contact.html
and double check with them before ordering.

Tom


"JeePenn" <tchilson@penn.com> wrote in message
news:z4Nub.8067$Rk5.4829@newsread1.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
> I checked out the link you provided along with the part number 6314 and
> found the following description:
>
> Quad Beam headlight conversion kit - keeps low beams on when high beams
are
> activated. Works with most pre-2000 GM's (old body style) and 2003 full
> size GM's.
>
> The description sounds as if it is for GM products only. 1) Is this what
I
> need for my 2000 Wrangler and 2) from the picture, it appears that the kit
> is for one light, meaning that I will need to buy 2 kits (one per light)?
>
>
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:3FBABE25.863E8237@cox.net...
> > I thought I was the only one whom wired low and high beams
> > together. I worried a little about whether my alternator would keep up
> > idling over the dunes, but they never dimmed:
> > http://----------.com/comphill.jpg
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:--------------------
> >
> > mabar wrote:
> > >
> > > I have read this entire thread and can't understand why you got some
of
> > > those nasty responses. You asked a legitimate question. It's true that
> fog
> > > lights are designed to be able to see better in fog. Adjusted
properly,
> they
> > > throw a wide, low beam and are much more effective in fog than regular
> > > headlights. In heavy fog, you should slow down, and use your fogs
along
> with
> > > your parking lights, NOT headlights. Headlights can be blinding in
heavy
> fog
> > > because so much light is reflected back into the driver's eyes.
> > >
> > > Your question was not about fog, it was about using the fogs with the

> high
> > > beams.
> > >
> > > It is NOT, repeat NOT illegal to have your fog lights on along with
your
> > > high beams. In fact in Ohio, you can have a total of 5 lights on the
> front
> > > of a vehicle lighted while on a roadway. They can be headlights, along
> with
> > > any combination of auxiliary lights, fogs included.
> > >
> > > When driving off-road, especially on dark forest trails or roads, I
use
> my
> > > high beams and fogs to get as much light as possible. The fogs are
> > > especially good for lighting the sides of the road to help avoid deer,
> etc.
> > >
> > > Here are the directions for getting your fogs to work with your high
> beams:
> > >
> > > On the '01 or '02 TJ, to get the fog lights to stay on with the high
> beams,
> > > follow these instructions:
> > >
> > > Find the #35 fog lamp relay inside the main fuse box, which is on the
> > > passenger side of the engine under the hood. The relay is clearly
> marked on
> > > a diagram on the inside cover of the main fuse box.
> > >
> > > Pull the relay straight up and out of the socket. Carefully and slowly
> bend
> > > the #1 pin (it's marked) 180 degrees around to the side of the plastic
> > > relay, so it will not make contact with its female socket when the
relay
> is
> > > re-inserted.
> > >
> > > Re-insert the relay and you're done. You can now turn on the fogs with
> > > either low beam or high beam headlights.
> > >
> > > On 1997-2000 TJs the relay is located behind the glove box door. You
> remove
> > > the glove box door and pull relay #2 (the one on the right) and bend
pin
> #1
> > > (it's labeled.) Put the relay back in and test. If you have no fogs
you
> > > pulled the wrong relay. Just switch them and it should work.
> > >
> > > On another subject, for those who want more light when the bright
> headlights
> > > are on, install a KC Hilites Quad Beam Conversion Kit. It's part #6314
> at
> > > www.kchilites.com. This allows the low beam filaments to stay on along
> with
> > > the high beam filaments. The factory setup turns off the low filament
> when
> > > high beams are turned on. It works for 2-headlight systems and
> 4-headlight
> > > systems. I did this on my 1994 Chevy Van, 1999 Chevy Van and my 2002
TJ.
> > > Works great.
> > >
> > > Tom
>
>

Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
 

Better be careful when picking a new handle. Bill complained a few weeks ago
about a person changing his handle. He prefers that we all use our real
name.

:)

Tom

"Smegma Breath" <tchilson@penn.com> wrote in message
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snip
> I guess I will just have to come up with a new 'handle' and toss out the
> name Smegma Breath. Maybe something Jeep related (all suggestions will be
> appreciated).
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