2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
11-21-2003, 09:35 PM
#161
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Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
I actually have just this on my 98 Toyota Sienna minivan. There is a
setting on the stalk that turns on the lights and then turns them off when
the key is turned off and the door opened. I love it and wish I had this on
my TJ. It uses the LOW beams, thank goodness, and has the rear lights on as
well for additional safety. If there is one thing I cannot stand is high
beam DRLs that assault my eyes regularly. Whoever thought of that should be
made to drive into high beam DRL traffic constantly.
The one problem with the Sienna set-up is that if I turn on the lights and
do not open the door I need to remember to open the door to turn the lights
off (or do it manually). I have run out the battery because of
this.....such a case would be starting the engine from the passenger seat
and then turning it off from that seat and leaving, never opening the
driver's door. Who would do such a stupid thing? Me. More than once, lol.
Tomes
"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:vrsgp3dd3r2v6a@corp.supernews.com...
> I never understood DTRs. If we need lights in the day time, and I accept
the
> notion that we do, then why not just have a circuit that turns the lights
on
> after the motor starts? If the lights turned on with the engine, then the
> driver would only have to concern him/herself with deciding if high beams
or
> low beams were needed.
>
>
>
>
> "Mike Hall" <mike.hall.mail@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:iZcvb.15139$iT4.1823402@news20.bellglobal.com ...
> > Canada has running lights that are constantly 'on'.. unfortunately, many
> > Canadians think that these are acceptable in bad conditions.. what about
> the
> > @#&$ing rear? Many Ontarian drivers are obviously not choir members..
> >
> > --
> > History is only the past if we choose to do nothing about it..
> >
> > "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> > news:unbvb.333$Gj2.140@okepread01...
> > > CRWLR did pass the time by typing:
> > > > You are preaching to the chior, Mike.
> > > >
> > > > I frequently turn my headlamps on just because I can.
> > >
> > > What amazes me is that some people don't know
> > > to turn the headlights on when they are driving
> > > down two-lane highway in the daytime. Without
> > > those lights oncoming drivers can not see you.
> > >
> > > --
> > > DougW
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
setting on the stalk that turns on the lights and then turns them off when
the key is turned off and the door opened. I love it and wish I had this on
my TJ. It uses the LOW beams, thank goodness, and has the rear lights on as
well for additional safety. If there is one thing I cannot stand is high
beam DRLs that assault my eyes regularly. Whoever thought of that should be
made to drive into high beam DRL traffic constantly.
The one problem with the Sienna set-up is that if I turn on the lights and
do not open the door I need to remember to open the door to turn the lights
off (or do it manually). I have run out the battery because of
this.....such a case would be starting the engine from the passenger seat
and then turning it off from that seat and leaving, never opening the
driver's door. Who would do such a stupid thing? Me. More than once, lol.
Tomes
"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:vrsgp3dd3r2v6a@corp.supernews.com...
> I never understood DTRs. If we need lights in the day time, and I accept
the
> notion that we do, then why not just have a circuit that turns the lights
on
> after the motor starts? If the lights turned on with the engine, then the
> driver would only have to concern him/herself with deciding if high beams
or
> low beams were needed.
>
>
>
>
> "Mike Hall" <mike.hall.mail@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:iZcvb.15139$iT4.1823402@news20.bellglobal.com ...
> > Canada has running lights that are constantly 'on'.. unfortunately, many
> > Canadians think that these are acceptable in bad conditions.. what about
> the
> > @#&$ing rear? Many Ontarian drivers are obviously not choir members..
> >
> > --
> > History is only the past if we choose to do nothing about it..
> >
> > "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> > news:unbvb.333$Gj2.140@okepread01...
> > > CRWLR did pass the time by typing:
> > > > You are preaching to the chior, Mike.
> > > >
> > > > I frequently turn my headlamps on just because I can.
> > >
> > > What amazes me is that some people don't know
> > > to turn the headlights on when they are driving
> > > down two-lane highway in the daytime. Without
> > > those lights oncoming drivers can not see you.
> > >
> > > --
> > > DougW
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
11-21-2003, 09:35 PM
#162
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Posts: n/a
Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
I actually have just this on my 98 Toyota Sienna minivan. There is a
setting on the stalk that turns on the lights and then turns them off when
the key is turned off and the door opened. I love it and wish I had this on
my TJ. It uses the LOW beams, thank goodness, and has the rear lights on as
well for additional safety. If there is one thing I cannot stand is high
beam DRLs that assault my eyes regularly. Whoever thought of that should be
made to drive into high beam DRL traffic constantly.
The one problem with the Sienna set-up is that if I turn on the lights and
do not open the door I need to remember to open the door to turn the lights
off (or do it manually). I have run out the battery because of
this.....such a case would be starting the engine from the passenger seat
and then turning it off from that seat and leaving, never opening the
driver's door. Who would do such a stupid thing? Me. More than once, lol.
Tomes
"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:vrsgp3dd3r2v6a@corp.supernews.com...
> I never understood DTRs. If we need lights in the day time, and I accept
the
> notion that we do, then why not just have a circuit that turns the lights
on
> after the motor starts? If the lights turned on with the engine, then the
> driver would only have to concern him/herself with deciding if high beams
or
> low beams were needed.
>
>
>
>
> "Mike Hall" <mike.hall.mail@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:iZcvb.15139$iT4.1823402@news20.bellglobal.com ...
> > Canada has running lights that are constantly 'on'.. unfortunately, many
> > Canadians think that these are acceptable in bad conditions.. what about
> the
> > @#&$ing rear? Many Ontarian drivers are obviously not choir members..
> >
> > --
> > History is only the past if we choose to do nothing about it..
> >
> > "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> > news:unbvb.333$Gj2.140@okepread01...
> > > CRWLR did pass the time by typing:
> > > > You are preaching to the chior, Mike.
> > > >
> > > > I frequently turn my headlamps on just because I can.
> > >
> > > What amazes me is that some people don't know
> > > to turn the headlights on when they are driving
> > > down two-lane highway in the daytime. Without
> > > those lights oncoming drivers can not see you.
> > >
> > > --
> > > DougW
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
setting on the stalk that turns on the lights and then turns them off when
the key is turned off and the door opened. I love it and wish I had this on
my TJ. It uses the LOW beams, thank goodness, and has the rear lights on as
well for additional safety. If there is one thing I cannot stand is high
beam DRLs that assault my eyes regularly. Whoever thought of that should be
made to drive into high beam DRL traffic constantly.
The one problem with the Sienna set-up is that if I turn on the lights and
do not open the door I need to remember to open the door to turn the lights
off (or do it manually). I have run out the battery because of
this.....such a case would be starting the engine from the passenger seat
and then turning it off from that seat and leaving, never opening the
driver's door. Who would do such a stupid thing? Me. More than once, lol.
Tomes
"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:vrsgp3dd3r2v6a@corp.supernews.com...
> I never understood DTRs. If we need lights in the day time, and I accept
the
> notion that we do, then why not just have a circuit that turns the lights
on
> after the motor starts? If the lights turned on with the engine, then the
> driver would only have to concern him/herself with deciding if high beams
or
> low beams were needed.
>
>
>
>
> "Mike Hall" <mike.hall.mail@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:iZcvb.15139$iT4.1823402@news20.bellglobal.com ...
> > Canada has running lights that are constantly 'on'.. unfortunately, many
> > Canadians think that these are acceptable in bad conditions.. what about
> the
> > @#&$ing rear? Many Ontarian drivers are obviously not choir members..
> >
> > --
> > History is only the past if we choose to do nothing about it..
> >
> > "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> > news:unbvb.333$Gj2.140@okepread01...
> > > CRWLR did pass the time by typing:
> > > > You are preaching to the chior, Mike.
> > > >
> > > > I frequently turn my headlamps on just because I can.
> > >
> > > What amazes me is that some people don't know
> > > to turn the headlights on when they are driving
> > > down two-lane highway in the daytime. Without
> > > those lights oncoming drivers can not see you.
> > >
> > > --
> > > DougW
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
11-21-2003, 09:35 PM
#163
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
I actually have just this on my 98 Toyota Sienna minivan. There is a
setting on the stalk that turns on the lights and then turns them off when
the key is turned off and the door opened. I love it and wish I had this on
my TJ. It uses the LOW beams, thank goodness, and has the rear lights on as
well for additional safety. If there is one thing I cannot stand is high
beam DRLs that assault my eyes regularly. Whoever thought of that should be
made to drive into high beam DRL traffic constantly.
The one problem with the Sienna set-up is that if I turn on the lights and
do not open the door I need to remember to open the door to turn the lights
off (or do it manually). I have run out the battery because of
this.....such a case would be starting the engine from the passenger seat
and then turning it off from that seat and leaving, never opening the
driver's door. Who would do such a stupid thing? Me. More than once, lol.
Tomes
"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:vrsgp3dd3r2v6a@corp.supernews.com...
> I never understood DTRs. If we need lights in the day time, and I accept
the
> notion that we do, then why not just have a circuit that turns the lights
on
> after the motor starts? If the lights turned on with the engine, then the
> driver would only have to concern him/herself with deciding if high beams
or
> low beams were needed.
>
>
>
>
> "Mike Hall" <mike.hall.mail@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:iZcvb.15139$iT4.1823402@news20.bellglobal.com ...
> > Canada has running lights that are constantly 'on'.. unfortunately, many
> > Canadians think that these are acceptable in bad conditions.. what about
> the
> > @#&$ing rear? Many Ontarian drivers are obviously not choir members..
> >
> > --
> > History is only the past if we choose to do nothing about it..
> >
> > "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> > news:unbvb.333$Gj2.140@okepread01...
> > > CRWLR did pass the time by typing:
> > > > You are preaching to the chior, Mike.
> > > >
> > > > I frequently turn my headlamps on just because I can.
> > >
> > > What amazes me is that some people don't know
> > > to turn the headlights on when they are driving
> > > down two-lane highway in the daytime. Without
> > > those lights oncoming drivers can not see you.
> > >
> > > --
> > > DougW
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
setting on the stalk that turns on the lights and then turns them off when
the key is turned off and the door opened. I love it and wish I had this on
my TJ. It uses the LOW beams, thank goodness, and has the rear lights on as
well for additional safety. If there is one thing I cannot stand is high
beam DRLs that assault my eyes regularly. Whoever thought of that should be
made to drive into high beam DRL traffic constantly.
The one problem with the Sienna set-up is that if I turn on the lights and
do not open the door I need to remember to open the door to turn the lights
off (or do it manually). I have run out the battery because of
this.....such a case would be starting the engine from the passenger seat
and then turning it off from that seat and leaving, never opening the
driver's door. Who would do such a stupid thing? Me. More than once, lol.
Tomes
"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:vrsgp3dd3r2v6a@corp.supernews.com...
> I never understood DTRs. If we need lights in the day time, and I accept
the
> notion that we do, then why not just have a circuit that turns the lights
on
> after the motor starts? If the lights turned on with the engine, then the
> driver would only have to concern him/herself with deciding if high beams
or
> low beams were needed.
>
>
>
>
> "Mike Hall" <mike.hall.mail@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:iZcvb.15139$iT4.1823402@news20.bellglobal.com ...
> > Canada has running lights that are constantly 'on'.. unfortunately, many
> > Canadians think that these are acceptable in bad conditions.. what about
> the
> > @#&$ing rear? Many Ontarian drivers are obviously not choir members..
> >
> > --
> > History is only the past if we choose to do nothing about it..
> >
> > "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> > news:unbvb.333$Gj2.140@okepread01...
> > > CRWLR did pass the time by typing:
> > > > You are preaching to the chior, Mike.
> > > >
> > > > I frequently turn my headlamps on just because I can.
> > >
> > > What amazes me is that some people don't know
> > > to turn the headlights on when they are driving
> > > down two-lane highway in the daytime. Without
> > > those lights oncoming drivers can not see you.
> > >
> > > --
> > > DougW
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
11-22-2003, 09:23 PM
#167
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Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
In article <vrsti2n512t368@corp.supernews.com>, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com>
writes:
>Why did they give us DTRs when they could have
>given us Auto-ON headlights that do the same thing, but do it better?
Probably has to do with trying to extend the life of the headlamps if they are
going to be on whenever the vehicle is running.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
writes:
>Why did they give us DTRs when they could have
>given us Auto-ON headlights that do the same thing, but do it better?
Probably has to do with trying to extend the life of the headlamps if they are
going to be on whenever the vehicle is running.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
11-22-2003, 09:23 PM
#168
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
In article <vrsti2n512t368@corp.supernews.com>, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com>
writes:
>Why did they give us DTRs when they could have
>given us Auto-ON headlights that do the same thing, but do it better?
Probably has to do with trying to extend the life of the headlamps if they are
going to be on whenever the vehicle is running.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
writes:
>Why did they give us DTRs when they could have
>given us Auto-ON headlights that do the same thing, but do it better?
Probably has to do with trying to extend the life of the headlamps if they are
going to be on whenever the vehicle is running.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
11-22-2003, 09:23 PM
#169
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
In article <vrsti2n512t368@corp.supernews.com>, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com>
writes:
>Why did they give us DTRs when they could have
>given us Auto-ON headlights that do the same thing, but do it better?
Probably has to do with trying to extend the life of the headlamps if they are
going to be on whenever the vehicle is running.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
writes:
>Why did they give us DTRs when they could have
>given us Auto-ON headlights that do the same thing, but do it better?
Probably has to do with trying to extend the life of the headlamps if they are
going to be on whenever the vehicle is running.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
11-24-2003, 04:00 PM
#170
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Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
"Dave Shannon" <daveshanremovethecable@coxcable.net> wrote in message
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>
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:vrsti2n512t368@corp.supernews.com...
> > I once owned a Touring Class Yamaha, and the lighting system cam on
after
> > the engine started. If the engine was switched off, then the lights died
> > until the engine came back on again. Surely, Detroit et al can design a
> > lighting system that comes on with the engine and shuts itself off again
> > after the engine goes dead. Why did they give us DTRs when they could
have
> > given us Auto-ON headlights that do the same thing, but do it better?
>
> Ford now owns a company who had lights that would do that back in 1986.
If
> you left the lights on all the time they came on with the switch, went off
> when cranking and back on once the switch returned to the run position,
turn
> the car off and everything went dark till next time. I'll give you a
hint,
> it was a company known for safety (legit) and bad drivers (not always
> true:-)
> Dave S
> 01 TJ
>
The name of that company is Vulva, right?
>
