2" Lift ?'s
06-22-2004, 04:11 PM
#51
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Posts: n/a
Re: 2" Lift ?'s
Ahhh, you finally caught on!
I was trying to make that point seeing as others have already told him
it is the 9.5 or 11.5 that makes the difference, not the height of 31,
32 or 33".
I really like the 'stock' look on Jeeps with the tall skinny matching up
to the factory flares.
A TJ properly set up will match the flare to the tire too.
I especially like the good traction from that setup. (the military
still use tall skinny on their 'Jeeps' or Iltis jeep wannabes for good
reason)
I went from being totally unsafe on the road in any snow over 40 mph
with 10.5's to being able to follow the transport trucks at 60 mph in 4"
of snow with the 3" on the tread narrower 9.5's.
Mike
twaldron wrote:
>
> Mike, as I recall, you run 9.5" wide tires, so it's really apples and
> oranges. He wants to run 11.50" inch tires. Also, the TJ axles are wider
> than your CJ's.
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
> > I will bet my 33's would mate up perfect to a TJ's stock flares and
> > stock rims with enough lift to clear them just like on mine too.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > twaldron wrote:
> >
> >>I believe the OP has a TJ.
> >>
> >>Mike Romain wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>My 33's fit my stock fender flares exactly.
> >>>
> >>>Mike
> >>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>>
> >>>Intergate wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>How far do you think the 32's will stick out with the stock fender flares?
> >>>>
> >>>>--
> >>>>Tim
> >>>>
> >>>>[____]
> >>>>(OIIIIIIO)
> >>>>
> >>>>"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> >>>>news:UfKBc.7618$6r4.3754@newssvr22.news.prodig y.com...
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>The 11.50s will stick out 1/2" more than the 10.50s. With a 2" lift, I'd
> >>>>>go with the 32s.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Intergate wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>What would be better 32x11.50 or 31x10.5 15's as far as sticking out of
> >>>>>>fenders. I also want to consider how they will fill the wheel wells with
> >>>>
> >>>>a
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>2" lift
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Trying to understand how the 10.5-11.5-12.5 relates to tire width.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Thanks
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>--
> >>>>>_____________________________________________ ______________
> >>>>>tw
> >>>>>
> >>>>>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> >>>>>01 XJ Sport
> >>>>>
> >>>>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> >>>>>-- Dave Barry
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Pronunciation: 'jEp
> >>>>>Function: noun
> >>>>>Date: 1940
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> >>>>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> >>>>>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> >>>>>World War II.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> >>>>>_____________________________________________ ______________
> >>>>>
> >>
> >>--
> >>________________________________________________ ___________
> >>tw
> >>
> >>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> >>01 XJ Sport
> >>
> >>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> >>-- Dave Barry
> >>
> >>Pronunciation: 'jEp
> >>Function: noun
> >>Date: 1940
> >>
> >>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> >>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> >>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> >>World War II.
> >>
> >>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> >>________________________________________________ ___________
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
I was trying to make that point seeing as others have already told him
it is the 9.5 or 11.5 that makes the difference, not the height of 31,
32 or 33".
I really like the 'stock' look on Jeeps with the tall skinny matching up
to the factory flares.
A TJ properly set up will match the flare to the tire too.
I especially like the good traction from that setup. (the military
still use tall skinny on their 'Jeeps' or Iltis jeep wannabes for good
reason)
I went from being totally unsafe on the road in any snow over 40 mph
with 10.5's to being able to follow the transport trucks at 60 mph in 4"
of snow with the 3" on the tread narrower 9.5's.
Mike
twaldron wrote:
>
> Mike, as I recall, you run 9.5" wide tires, so it's really apples and
> oranges. He wants to run 11.50" inch tires. Also, the TJ axles are wider
> than your CJ's.
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
> > I will bet my 33's would mate up perfect to a TJ's stock flares and
> > stock rims with enough lift to clear them just like on mine too.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > twaldron wrote:
> >
> >>I believe the OP has a TJ.
> >>
> >>Mike Romain wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>My 33's fit my stock fender flares exactly.
> >>>
> >>>Mike
> >>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>>
> >>>Intergate wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>How far do you think the 32's will stick out with the stock fender flares?
> >>>>
> >>>>--
> >>>>Tim
> >>>>
> >>>>[____]
> >>>>(OIIIIIIO)
> >>>>
> >>>>"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> >>>>news:UfKBc.7618$6r4.3754@newssvr22.news.prodig y.com...
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>The 11.50s will stick out 1/2" more than the 10.50s. With a 2" lift, I'd
> >>>>>go with the 32s.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Intergate wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>What would be better 32x11.50 or 31x10.5 15's as far as sticking out of
> >>>>>>fenders. I also want to consider how they will fill the wheel wells with
> >>>>
> >>>>a
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>2" lift
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Trying to understand how the 10.5-11.5-12.5 relates to tire width.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Thanks
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>--
> >>>>>_____________________________________________ ______________
> >>>>>tw
> >>>>>
> >>>>>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> >>>>>01 XJ Sport
> >>>>>
> >>>>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> >>>>>-- Dave Barry
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Pronunciation: 'jEp
> >>>>>Function: noun
> >>>>>Date: 1940
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> >>>>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> >>>>>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> >>>>>World War II.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> >>>>>_____________________________________________ ______________
> >>>>>
> >>
> >>--
> >>________________________________________________ ___________
> >>tw
> >>
> >>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> >>01 XJ Sport
> >>
> >>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> >>-- Dave Barry
> >>
> >>Pronunciation: 'jEp
> >>Function: noun
> >>Date: 1940
> >>
> >>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> >>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> >>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> >>World War II.
> >>
> >>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> >>________________________________________________ ___________
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
06-22-2004, 04:11 PM
#52
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 2" Lift ?'s
Ahhh, you finally caught on!
I was trying to make that point seeing as others have already told him
it is the 9.5 or 11.5 that makes the difference, not the height of 31,
32 or 33".
I really like the 'stock' look on Jeeps with the tall skinny matching up
to the factory flares.
A TJ properly set up will match the flare to the tire too.
I especially like the good traction from that setup. (the military
still use tall skinny on their 'Jeeps' or Iltis jeep wannabes for good
reason)
I went from being totally unsafe on the road in any snow over 40 mph
with 10.5's to being able to follow the transport trucks at 60 mph in 4"
of snow with the 3" on the tread narrower 9.5's.
Mike
twaldron wrote:
>
> Mike, as I recall, you run 9.5" wide tires, so it's really apples and
> oranges. He wants to run 11.50" inch tires. Also, the TJ axles are wider
> than your CJ's.
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
> > I will bet my 33's would mate up perfect to a TJ's stock flares and
> > stock rims with enough lift to clear them just like on mine too.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > twaldron wrote:
> >
> >>I believe the OP has a TJ.
> >>
> >>Mike Romain wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>My 33's fit my stock fender flares exactly.
> >>>
> >>>Mike
> >>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>>
> >>>Intergate wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>How far do you think the 32's will stick out with the stock fender flares?
> >>>>
> >>>>--
> >>>>Tim
> >>>>
> >>>>[____]
> >>>>(OIIIIIIO)
> >>>>
> >>>>"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> >>>>news:UfKBc.7618$6r4.3754@newssvr22.news.prodig y.com...
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>The 11.50s will stick out 1/2" more than the 10.50s. With a 2" lift, I'd
> >>>>>go with the 32s.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Intergate wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>What would be better 32x11.50 or 31x10.5 15's as far as sticking out of
> >>>>>>fenders. I also want to consider how they will fill the wheel wells with
> >>>>
> >>>>a
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>2" lift
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Trying to understand how the 10.5-11.5-12.5 relates to tire width.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Thanks
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>--
> >>>>>_____________________________________________ ______________
> >>>>>tw
> >>>>>
> >>>>>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> >>>>>01 XJ Sport
> >>>>>
> >>>>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> >>>>>-- Dave Barry
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Pronunciation: 'jEp
> >>>>>Function: noun
> >>>>>Date: 1940
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> >>>>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> >>>>>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> >>>>>World War II.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> >>>>>_____________________________________________ ______________
> >>>>>
> >>
> >>--
> >>________________________________________________ ___________
> >>tw
> >>
> >>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> >>01 XJ Sport
> >>
> >>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> >>-- Dave Barry
> >>
> >>Pronunciation: 'jEp
> >>Function: noun
> >>Date: 1940
> >>
> >>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> >>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> >>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> >>World War II.
> >>
> >>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> >>________________________________________________ ___________
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
I was trying to make that point seeing as others have already told him
it is the 9.5 or 11.5 that makes the difference, not the height of 31,
32 or 33".
I really like the 'stock' look on Jeeps with the tall skinny matching up
to the factory flares.
A TJ properly set up will match the flare to the tire too.
I especially like the good traction from that setup. (the military
still use tall skinny on their 'Jeeps' or Iltis jeep wannabes for good
reason)
I went from being totally unsafe on the road in any snow over 40 mph
with 10.5's to being able to follow the transport trucks at 60 mph in 4"
of snow with the 3" on the tread narrower 9.5's.
Mike
twaldron wrote:
>
> Mike, as I recall, you run 9.5" wide tires, so it's really apples and
> oranges. He wants to run 11.50" inch tires. Also, the TJ axles are wider
> than your CJ's.
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
> > I will bet my 33's would mate up perfect to a TJ's stock flares and
> > stock rims with enough lift to clear them just like on mine too.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > twaldron wrote:
> >
> >>I believe the OP has a TJ.
> >>
> >>Mike Romain wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>My 33's fit my stock fender flares exactly.
> >>>
> >>>Mike
> >>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>>
> >>>Intergate wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>How far do you think the 32's will stick out with the stock fender flares?
> >>>>
> >>>>--
> >>>>Tim
> >>>>
> >>>>[____]
> >>>>(OIIIIIIO)
> >>>>
> >>>>"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> >>>>news:UfKBc.7618$6r4.3754@newssvr22.news.prodig y.com...
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>The 11.50s will stick out 1/2" more than the 10.50s. With a 2" lift, I'd
> >>>>>go with the 32s.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Intergate wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>What would be better 32x11.50 or 31x10.5 15's as far as sticking out of
> >>>>>>fenders. I also want to consider how they will fill the wheel wells with
> >>>>
> >>>>a
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>2" lift
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Trying to understand how the 10.5-11.5-12.5 relates to tire width.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Thanks
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>--
> >>>>>_____________________________________________ ______________
> >>>>>tw
> >>>>>
> >>>>>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> >>>>>01 XJ Sport
> >>>>>
> >>>>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> >>>>>-- Dave Barry
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Pronunciation: 'jEp
> >>>>>Function: noun
> >>>>>Date: 1940
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> >>>>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> >>>>>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> >>>>>World War II.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> >>>>>_____________________________________________ ______________
> >>>>>
> >>
> >>--
> >>________________________________________________ ___________
> >>tw
> >>
> >>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> >>01 XJ Sport
> >>
> >>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> >>-- Dave Barry
> >>
> >>Pronunciation: 'jEp
> >>Function: noun
> >>Date: 1940
> >>
> >>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> >>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> >>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> >>World War II.
> >>
> >>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> >>________________________________________________ ___________
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
06-22-2004, 04:11 PM
#53
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 2" Lift ?'s
Ahhh, you finally caught on!
I was trying to make that point seeing as others have already told him
it is the 9.5 or 11.5 that makes the difference, not the height of 31,
32 or 33".
I really like the 'stock' look on Jeeps with the tall skinny matching up
to the factory flares.
A TJ properly set up will match the flare to the tire too.
I especially like the good traction from that setup. (the military
still use tall skinny on their 'Jeeps' or Iltis jeep wannabes for good
reason)
I went from being totally unsafe on the road in any snow over 40 mph
with 10.5's to being able to follow the transport trucks at 60 mph in 4"
of snow with the 3" on the tread narrower 9.5's.
Mike
twaldron wrote:
>
> Mike, as I recall, you run 9.5" wide tires, so it's really apples and
> oranges. He wants to run 11.50" inch tires. Also, the TJ axles are wider
> than your CJ's.
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
> > I will bet my 33's would mate up perfect to a TJ's stock flares and
> > stock rims with enough lift to clear them just like on mine too.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > twaldron wrote:
> >
> >>I believe the OP has a TJ.
> >>
> >>Mike Romain wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>My 33's fit my stock fender flares exactly.
> >>>
> >>>Mike
> >>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>>
> >>>Intergate wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>How far do you think the 32's will stick out with the stock fender flares?
> >>>>
> >>>>--
> >>>>Tim
> >>>>
> >>>>[____]
> >>>>(OIIIIIIO)
> >>>>
> >>>>"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> >>>>news:UfKBc.7618$6r4.3754@newssvr22.news.prodig y.com...
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>The 11.50s will stick out 1/2" more than the 10.50s. With a 2" lift, I'd
> >>>>>go with the 32s.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Intergate wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>What would be better 32x11.50 or 31x10.5 15's as far as sticking out of
> >>>>>>fenders. I also want to consider how they will fill the wheel wells with
> >>>>
> >>>>a
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>2" lift
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Trying to understand how the 10.5-11.5-12.5 relates to tire width.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Thanks
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>--
> >>>>>_____________________________________________ ______________
> >>>>>tw
> >>>>>
> >>>>>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> >>>>>01 XJ Sport
> >>>>>
> >>>>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> >>>>>-- Dave Barry
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Pronunciation: 'jEp
> >>>>>Function: noun
> >>>>>Date: 1940
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> >>>>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> >>>>>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> >>>>>World War II.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> >>>>>_____________________________________________ ______________
> >>>>>
> >>
> >>--
> >>________________________________________________ ___________
> >>tw
> >>
> >>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> >>01 XJ Sport
> >>
> >>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> >>-- Dave Barry
> >>
> >>Pronunciation: 'jEp
> >>Function: noun
> >>Date: 1940
> >>
> >>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> >>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> >>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> >>World War II.
> >>
> >>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> >>________________________________________________ ___________
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
I was trying to make that point seeing as others have already told him
it is the 9.5 or 11.5 that makes the difference, not the height of 31,
32 or 33".
I really like the 'stock' look on Jeeps with the tall skinny matching up
to the factory flares.
A TJ properly set up will match the flare to the tire too.
I especially like the good traction from that setup. (the military
still use tall skinny on their 'Jeeps' or Iltis jeep wannabes for good
reason)
I went from being totally unsafe on the road in any snow over 40 mph
with 10.5's to being able to follow the transport trucks at 60 mph in 4"
of snow with the 3" on the tread narrower 9.5's.
Mike
twaldron wrote:
>
> Mike, as I recall, you run 9.5" wide tires, so it's really apples and
> oranges. He wants to run 11.50" inch tires. Also, the TJ axles are wider
> than your CJ's.
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
> > I will bet my 33's would mate up perfect to a TJ's stock flares and
> > stock rims with enough lift to clear them just like on mine too.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > twaldron wrote:
> >
> >>I believe the OP has a TJ.
> >>
> >>Mike Romain wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>My 33's fit my stock fender flares exactly.
> >>>
> >>>Mike
> >>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>>
> >>>Intergate wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>How far do you think the 32's will stick out with the stock fender flares?
> >>>>
> >>>>--
> >>>>Tim
> >>>>
> >>>>[____]
> >>>>(OIIIIIIO)
> >>>>
> >>>>"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> >>>>news:UfKBc.7618$6r4.3754@newssvr22.news.prodig y.com...
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>The 11.50s will stick out 1/2" more than the 10.50s. With a 2" lift, I'd
> >>>>>go with the 32s.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Intergate wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>What would be better 32x11.50 or 31x10.5 15's as far as sticking out of
> >>>>>>fenders. I also want to consider how they will fill the wheel wells with
> >>>>
> >>>>a
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>2" lift
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Trying to understand how the 10.5-11.5-12.5 relates to tire width.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Thanks
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>--
> >>>>>_____________________________________________ ______________
> >>>>>tw
> >>>>>
> >>>>>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> >>>>>01 XJ Sport
> >>>>>
> >>>>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> >>>>>-- Dave Barry
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Pronunciation: 'jEp
> >>>>>Function: noun
> >>>>>Date: 1940
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> >>>>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> >>>>>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> >>>>>World War II.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> >>>>>_____________________________________________ ______________
> >>>>>
> >>
> >>--
> >>________________________________________________ ___________
> >>tw
> >>
> >>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> >>01 XJ Sport
> >>
> >>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> >>-- Dave Barry
> >>
> >>Pronunciation: 'jEp
> >>Function: noun
> >>Date: 1940
> >>
> >>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> >>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> >>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> >>World War II.
> >>
> >>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> >>________________________________________________ ___________
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
06-22-2004, 04:11 PM
#54
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 2" Lift ?'s
Ahhh, you finally caught on!
I was trying to make that point seeing as others have already told him
it is the 9.5 or 11.5 that makes the difference, not the height of 31,
32 or 33".
I really like the 'stock' look on Jeeps with the tall skinny matching up
to the factory flares.
A TJ properly set up will match the flare to the tire too.
I especially like the good traction from that setup. (the military
still use tall skinny on their 'Jeeps' or Iltis jeep wannabes for good
reason)
I went from being totally unsafe on the road in any snow over 40 mph
with 10.5's to being able to follow the transport trucks at 60 mph in 4"
of snow with the 3" on the tread narrower 9.5's.
Mike
twaldron wrote:
>
> Mike, as I recall, you run 9.5" wide tires, so it's really apples and
> oranges. He wants to run 11.50" inch tires. Also, the TJ axles are wider
> than your CJ's.
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
> > I will bet my 33's would mate up perfect to a TJ's stock flares and
> > stock rims with enough lift to clear them just like on mine too.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > twaldron wrote:
> >
> >>I believe the OP has a TJ.
> >>
> >>Mike Romain wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>My 33's fit my stock fender flares exactly.
> >>>
> >>>Mike
> >>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>>
> >>>Intergate wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>How far do you think the 32's will stick out with the stock fender flares?
> >>>>
> >>>>--
> >>>>Tim
> >>>>
> >>>>[____]
> >>>>(OIIIIIIO)
> >>>>
> >>>>"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> >>>>news:UfKBc.7618$6r4.3754@newssvr22.news.prodig y.com...
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>The 11.50s will stick out 1/2" more than the 10.50s. With a 2" lift, I'd
> >>>>>go with the 32s.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Intergate wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>What would be better 32x11.50 or 31x10.5 15's as far as sticking out of
> >>>>>>fenders. I also want to consider how they will fill the wheel wells with
> >>>>
> >>>>a
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>2" lift
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Trying to understand how the 10.5-11.5-12.5 relates to tire width.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Thanks
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>--
> >>>>>_____________________________________________ ______________
> >>>>>tw
> >>>>>
> >>>>>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> >>>>>01 XJ Sport
> >>>>>
> >>>>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> >>>>>-- Dave Barry
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Pronunciation: 'jEp
> >>>>>Function: noun
> >>>>>Date: 1940
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> >>>>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> >>>>>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> >>>>>World War II.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> >>>>>_____________________________________________ ______________
> >>>>>
> >>
> >>--
> >>________________________________________________ ___________
> >>tw
> >>
> >>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> >>01 XJ Sport
> >>
> >>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> >>-- Dave Barry
> >>
> >>Pronunciation: 'jEp
> >>Function: noun
> >>Date: 1940
> >>
> >>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> >>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> >>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> >>World War II.
> >>
> >>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> >>________________________________________________ ___________
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
I was trying to make that point seeing as others have already told him
it is the 9.5 or 11.5 that makes the difference, not the height of 31,
32 or 33".
I really like the 'stock' look on Jeeps with the tall skinny matching up
to the factory flares.
A TJ properly set up will match the flare to the tire too.
I especially like the good traction from that setup. (the military
still use tall skinny on their 'Jeeps' or Iltis jeep wannabes for good
reason)
I went from being totally unsafe on the road in any snow over 40 mph
with 10.5's to being able to follow the transport trucks at 60 mph in 4"
of snow with the 3" on the tread narrower 9.5's.
Mike
twaldron wrote:
>
> Mike, as I recall, you run 9.5" wide tires, so it's really apples and
> oranges. He wants to run 11.50" inch tires. Also, the TJ axles are wider
> than your CJ's.
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
> > I will bet my 33's would mate up perfect to a TJ's stock flares and
> > stock rims with enough lift to clear them just like on mine too.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > twaldron wrote:
> >
> >>I believe the OP has a TJ.
> >>
> >>Mike Romain wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>My 33's fit my stock fender flares exactly.
> >>>
> >>>Mike
> >>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>>
> >>>Intergate wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>How far do you think the 32's will stick out with the stock fender flares?
> >>>>
> >>>>--
> >>>>Tim
> >>>>
> >>>>[____]
> >>>>(OIIIIIIO)
> >>>>
> >>>>"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> >>>>news:UfKBc.7618$6r4.3754@newssvr22.news.prodig y.com...
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>The 11.50s will stick out 1/2" more than the 10.50s. With a 2" lift, I'd
> >>>>>go with the 32s.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Intergate wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>What would be better 32x11.50 or 31x10.5 15's as far as sticking out of
> >>>>>>fenders. I also want to consider how they will fill the wheel wells with
> >>>>
> >>>>a
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>2" lift
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Trying to understand how the 10.5-11.5-12.5 relates to tire width.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Thanks
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>--
> >>>>>_____________________________________________ ______________
> >>>>>tw
> >>>>>
> >>>>>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> >>>>>01 XJ Sport
> >>>>>
> >>>>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> >>>>>-- Dave Barry
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Pronunciation: 'jEp
> >>>>>Function: noun
> >>>>>Date: 1940
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> >>>>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> >>>>>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> >>>>>World War II.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> >>>>>_____________________________________________ ______________
> >>>>>
> >>
> >>--
> >>________________________________________________ ___________
> >>tw
> >>
> >>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> >>01 XJ Sport
> >>
> >>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> >>-- Dave Barry
> >>
> >>Pronunciation: 'jEp
> >>Function: noun
> >>Date: 1940
> >>
> >>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> >>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> >>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> >>World War II.
> >>
> >>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> >>________________________________________________ ___________
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
06-22-2004, 04:30 PM
#55
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 2" Lift ?'s
I am trying to buy some wheels online. Most barely list backspace, none list
offset. Most backspace I have found so far is 4". any suggestions on 4.5"
backspace wheels and where to get them.
Also with that much backspace will they slip right on without any other mods
and not have me worry about hitting on something inside, turning especially.
--
Tim
[____]
(OIIIIIIO)
"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:330Cc.7802$9v1.5787@newssvr22.news.prodigy.co m...
> Mike, as I recall, you run 9.5" wide tires, so it's really apples and
> oranges. He wants to run 11.50" inch tires. Also, the TJ axles are wider
> than your CJ's.
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
> > I will bet my 33's would mate up perfect to a TJ's stock flares and
> > stock rims with enough lift to clear them just like on mine too.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > twaldron wrote:
> >
> >>I believe the OP has a TJ.
> >>
> >>Mike Romain wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>My 33's fit my stock fender flares exactly.
> >>>
> >>>Mike
> >>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>>
> >>>Intergate wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>How far do you think the 32's will stick out with the stock fender
flares?
> >>>>
> >>>>--
> >>>>Tim
> >>>>
> >>>>[____]
> >>>>(OIIIIIIO)
> >>>>
> >>>>"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> >>>>news:UfKBc.7618$6r4.3754@newssvr22.news.prodig y.com...
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>The 11.50s will stick out 1/2" more than the 10.50s. With a 2" lift,
I'd
> >>>>>go with the 32s.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Intergate wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>What would be better 32x11.50 or 31x10.5 15's as far as sticking out
of
> >>>>>>fenders. I also want to consider how they will fill the wheel wells
with
> >>>>
> >>>>a
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>2" lift
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Trying to understand how the 10.5-11.5-12.5 relates to tire width.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Thanks
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>--
> >>>>>_____________________________________________ ______________
> >>>>>tw
> >>>>>
> >>>>>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> >>>>>01 XJ Sport
> >>>>>
> >>>>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> >>>>>-- Dave Barry
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Pronunciation: 'jEp
> >>>>>Function: noun
> >>>>>Date: 1940
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> >>>>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> >>>>>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> >>>>>World War II.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> >>>>>_____________________________________________ ______________
> >>>>>
> >>
> >>--
> >>________________________________________________ ___________
> >>tw
> >>
> >>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> >>01 XJ Sport
> >>
> >>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> >>-- Dave Barry
> >>
> >>Pronunciation: 'jEp
> >>Function: noun
> >>Date: 1940
> >>
> >>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> >>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> >>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> >>World War II.
> >>
> >>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> >>________________________________________________ ___________
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>
offset. Most backspace I have found so far is 4". any suggestions on 4.5"
backspace wheels and where to get them.
Also with that much backspace will they slip right on without any other mods
and not have me worry about hitting on something inside, turning especially.
--
Tim
[____]
(OIIIIIIO)
"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:330Cc.7802$9v1.5787@newssvr22.news.prodigy.co m...
> Mike, as I recall, you run 9.5" wide tires, so it's really apples and
> oranges. He wants to run 11.50" inch tires. Also, the TJ axles are wider
> than your CJ's.
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
> > I will bet my 33's would mate up perfect to a TJ's stock flares and
> > stock rims with enough lift to clear them just like on mine too.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > twaldron wrote:
> >
> >>I believe the OP has a TJ.
> >>
> >>Mike Romain wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>My 33's fit my stock fender flares exactly.
> >>>
> >>>Mike
> >>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>>
> >>>Intergate wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>How far do you think the 32's will stick out with the stock fender
flares?
> >>>>
> >>>>--
> >>>>Tim
> >>>>
> >>>>[____]
> >>>>(OIIIIIIO)
> >>>>
> >>>>"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> >>>>news:UfKBc.7618$6r4.3754@newssvr22.news.prodig y.com...
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>The 11.50s will stick out 1/2" more than the 10.50s. With a 2" lift,
I'd
> >>>>>go with the 32s.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Intergate wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>What would be better 32x11.50 or 31x10.5 15's as far as sticking out
of
> >>>>>>fenders. I also want to consider how they will fill the wheel wells
with
> >>>>
> >>>>a
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>2" lift
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Trying to understand how the 10.5-11.5-12.5 relates to tire width.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Thanks
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>--
> >>>>>_____________________________________________ ______________
> >>>>>tw
> >>>>>
> >>>>>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> >>>>>01 XJ Sport
> >>>>>
> >>>>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> >>>>>-- Dave Barry
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Pronunciation: 'jEp
> >>>>>Function: noun
> >>>>>Date: 1940
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> >>>>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> >>>>>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> >>>>>World War II.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> >>>>>_____________________________________________ ______________
> >>>>>
> >>
> >>--
> >>________________________________________________ ___________
> >>tw
> >>
> >>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> >>01 XJ Sport
> >>
> >>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> >>-- Dave Barry
> >>
> >>Pronunciation: 'jEp
> >>Function: noun
> >>Date: 1940
> >>
> >>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> >>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> >>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> >>World War II.
> >>
> >>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> >>________________________________________________ ___________
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>
06-22-2004, 04:30 PM
#56
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 2" Lift ?'s
I am trying to buy some wheels online. Most barely list backspace, none list
offset. Most backspace I have found so far is 4". any suggestions on 4.5"
backspace wheels and where to get them.
Also with that much backspace will they slip right on without any other mods
and not have me worry about hitting on something inside, turning especially.
--
Tim
[____]
(OIIIIIIO)
"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:330Cc.7802$9v1.5787@newssvr22.news.prodigy.co m...
> Mike, as I recall, you run 9.5" wide tires, so it's really apples and
> oranges. He wants to run 11.50" inch tires. Also, the TJ axles are wider
> than your CJ's.
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
> > I will bet my 33's would mate up perfect to a TJ's stock flares and
> > stock rims with enough lift to clear them just like on mine too.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > twaldron wrote:
> >
> >>I believe the OP has a TJ.
> >>
> >>Mike Romain wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>My 33's fit my stock fender flares exactly.
> >>>
> >>>Mike
> >>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>>
> >>>Intergate wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>How far do you think the 32's will stick out with the stock fender
flares?
> >>>>
> >>>>--
> >>>>Tim
> >>>>
> >>>>[____]
> >>>>(OIIIIIIO)
> >>>>
> >>>>"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> >>>>news:UfKBc.7618$6r4.3754@newssvr22.news.prodig y.com...
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>The 11.50s will stick out 1/2" more than the 10.50s. With a 2" lift,
I'd
> >>>>>go with the 32s.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Intergate wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>What would be better 32x11.50 or 31x10.5 15's as far as sticking out
of
> >>>>>>fenders. I also want to consider how they will fill the wheel wells
with
> >>>>
> >>>>a
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>2" lift
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Trying to understand how the 10.5-11.5-12.5 relates to tire width.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Thanks
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>--
> >>>>>_____________________________________________ ______________
> >>>>>tw
> >>>>>
> >>>>>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> >>>>>01 XJ Sport
> >>>>>
> >>>>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> >>>>>-- Dave Barry
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Pronunciation: 'jEp
> >>>>>Function: noun
> >>>>>Date: 1940
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> >>>>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> >>>>>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> >>>>>World War II.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> >>>>>_____________________________________________ ______________
> >>>>>
> >>
> >>--
> >>________________________________________________ ___________
> >>tw
> >>
> >>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> >>01 XJ Sport
> >>
> >>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> >>-- Dave Barry
> >>
> >>Pronunciation: 'jEp
> >>Function: noun
> >>Date: 1940
> >>
> >>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> >>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> >>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> >>World War II.
> >>
> >>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> >>________________________________________________ ___________
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>
offset. Most backspace I have found so far is 4". any suggestions on 4.5"
backspace wheels and where to get them.
Also with that much backspace will they slip right on without any other mods
and not have me worry about hitting on something inside, turning especially.
--
Tim
[____]
(OIIIIIIO)
"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:330Cc.7802$9v1.5787@newssvr22.news.prodigy.co m...
> Mike, as I recall, you run 9.5" wide tires, so it's really apples and
> oranges. He wants to run 11.50" inch tires. Also, the TJ axles are wider
> than your CJ's.
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
> > I will bet my 33's would mate up perfect to a TJ's stock flares and
> > stock rims with enough lift to clear them just like on mine too.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > twaldron wrote:
> >
> >>I believe the OP has a TJ.
> >>
> >>Mike Romain wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>My 33's fit my stock fender flares exactly.
> >>>
> >>>Mike
> >>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>>
> >>>Intergate wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>How far do you think the 32's will stick out with the stock fender
flares?
> >>>>
> >>>>--
> >>>>Tim
> >>>>
> >>>>[____]
> >>>>(OIIIIIIO)
> >>>>
> >>>>"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> >>>>news:UfKBc.7618$6r4.3754@newssvr22.news.prodig y.com...
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>The 11.50s will stick out 1/2" more than the 10.50s. With a 2" lift,
I'd
> >>>>>go with the 32s.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Intergate wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>What would be better 32x11.50 or 31x10.5 15's as far as sticking out
of
> >>>>>>fenders. I also want to consider how they will fill the wheel wells
with
> >>>>
> >>>>a
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>2" lift
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Trying to understand how the 10.5-11.5-12.5 relates to tire width.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Thanks
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>--
> >>>>>_____________________________________________ ______________
> >>>>>tw
> >>>>>
> >>>>>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> >>>>>01 XJ Sport
> >>>>>
> >>>>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> >>>>>-- Dave Barry
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Pronunciation: 'jEp
> >>>>>Function: noun
> >>>>>Date: 1940
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> >>>>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> >>>>>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> >>>>>World War II.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> >>>>>_____________________________________________ ______________
> >>>>>
> >>
> >>--
> >>________________________________________________ ___________
> >>tw
> >>
> >>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> >>01 XJ Sport
> >>
> >>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> >>-- Dave Barry
> >>
> >>Pronunciation: 'jEp
> >>Function: noun
> >>Date: 1940
> >>
> >>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> >>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> >>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> >>World War II.
> >>
> >>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> >>________________________________________________ ___________
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>
06-22-2004, 04:30 PM
#57
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 2" Lift ?'s
I am trying to buy some wheels online. Most barely list backspace, none list
offset. Most backspace I have found so far is 4". any suggestions on 4.5"
backspace wheels and where to get them.
Also with that much backspace will they slip right on without any other mods
and not have me worry about hitting on something inside, turning especially.
--
Tim
[____]
(OIIIIIIO)
"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:330Cc.7802$9v1.5787@newssvr22.news.prodigy.co m...
> Mike, as I recall, you run 9.5" wide tires, so it's really apples and
> oranges. He wants to run 11.50" inch tires. Also, the TJ axles are wider
> than your CJ's.
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
> > I will bet my 33's would mate up perfect to a TJ's stock flares and
> > stock rims with enough lift to clear them just like on mine too.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > twaldron wrote:
> >
> >>I believe the OP has a TJ.
> >>
> >>Mike Romain wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>My 33's fit my stock fender flares exactly.
> >>>
> >>>Mike
> >>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>>
> >>>Intergate wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>How far do you think the 32's will stick out with the stock fender
flares?
> >>>>
> >>>>--
> >>>>Tim
> >>>>
> >>>>[____]
> >>>>(OIIIIIIO)
> >>>>
> >>>>"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> >>>>news:UfKBc.7618$6r4.3754@newssvr22.news.prodig y.com...
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>The 11.50s will stick out 1/2" more than the 10.50s. With a 2" lift,
I'd
> >>>>>go with the 32s.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Intergate wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>What would be better 32x11.50 or 31x10.5 15's as far as sticking out
of
> >>>>>>fenders. I also want to consider how they will fill the wheel wells
with
> >>>>
> >>>>a
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>2" lift
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Trying to understand how the 10.5-11.5-12.5 relates to tire width.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Thanks
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>--
> >>>>>_____________________________________________ ______________
> >>>>>tw
> >>>>>
> >>>>>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> >>>>>01 XJ Sport
> >>>>>
> >>>>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> >>>>>-- Dave Barry
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Pronunciation: 'jEp
> >>>>>Function: noun
> >>>>>Date: 1940
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> >>>>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> >>>>>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> >>>>>World War II.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> >>>>>_____________________________________________ ______________
> >>>>>
> >>
> >>--
> >>________________________________________________ ___________
> >>tw
> >>
> >>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> >>01 XJ Sport
> >>
> >>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> >>-- Dave Barry
> >>
> >>Pronunciation: 'jEp
> >>Function: noun
> >>Date: 1940
> >>
> >>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> >>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> >>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> >>World War II.
> >>
> >>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> >>________________________________________________ ___________
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>
offset. Most backspace I have found so far is 4". any suggestions on 4.5"
backspace wheels and where to get them.
Also with that much backspace will they slip right on without any other mods
and not have me worry about hitting on something inside, turning especially.
--
Tim
[____]
(OIIIIIIO)
"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:330Cc.7802$9v1.5787@newssvr22.news.prodigy.co m...
> Mike, as I recall, you run 9.5" wide tires, so it's really apples and
> oranges. He wants to run 11.50" inch tires. Also, the TJ axles are wider
> than your CJ's.
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
> > I will bet my 33's would mate up perfect to a TJ's stock flares and
> > stock rims with enough lift to clear them just like on mine too.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > twaldron wrote:
> >
> >>I believe the OP has a TJ.
> >>
> >>Mike Romain wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>My 33's fit my stock fender flares exactly.
> >>>
> >>>Mike
> >>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>>
> >>>Intergate wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>How far do you think the 32's will stick out with the stock fender
flares?
> >>>>
> >>>>--
> >>>>Tim
> >>>>
> >>>>[____]
> >>>>(OIIIIIIO)
> >>>>
> >>>>"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> >>>>news:UfKBc.7618$6r4.3754@newssvr22.news.prodig y.com...
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>The 11.50s will stick out 1/2" more than the 10.50s. With a 2" lift,
I'd
> >>>>>go with the 32s.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Intergate wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>What would be better 32x11.50 or 31x10.5 15's as far as sticking out
of
> >>>>>>fenders. I also want to consider how they will fill the wheel wells
with
> >>>>
> >>>>a
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>2" lift
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Trying to understand how the 10.5-11.5-12.5 relates to tire width.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Thanks
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>--
> >>>>>_____________________________________________ ______________
> >>>>>tw
> >>>>>
> >>>>>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> >>>>>01 XJ Sport
> >>>>>
> >>>>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> >>>>>-- Dave Barry
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Pronunciation: 'jEp
> >>>>>Function: noun
> >>>>>Date: 1940
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> >>>>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> >>>>>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> >>>>>World War II.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> >>>>>_____________________________________________ ______________
> >>>>>
> >>
> >>--
> >>________________________________________________ ___________
> >>tw
> >>
> >>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> >>01 XJ Sport
> >>
> >>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> >>-- Dave Barry
> >>
> >>Pronunciation: 'jEp
> >>Function: noun
> >>Date: 1940
> >>
> >>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> >>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> >>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> >>World War II.
> >>
> >>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> >>________________________________________________ ___________
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>
06-22-2004, 04:30 PM
#58
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 2" Lift ?'s
I am trying to buy some wheels online. Most barely list backspace, none list
offset. Most backspace I have found so far is 4". any suggestions on 4.5"
backspace wheels and where to get them.
Also with that much backspace will they slip right on without any other mods
and not have me worry about hitting on something inside, turning especially.
--
Tim
[____]
(OIIIIIIO)
"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:330Cc.7802$9v1.5787@newssvr22.news.prodigy.co m...
> Mike, as I recall, you run 9.5" wide tires, so it's really apples and
> oranges. He wants to run 11.50" inch tires. Also, the TJ axles are wider
> than your CJ's.
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
> > I will bet my 33's would mate up perfect to a TJ's stock flares and
> > stock rims with enough lift to clear them just like on mine too.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > twaldron wrote:
> >
> >>I believe the OP has a TJ.
> >>
> >>Mike Romain wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>My 33's fit my stock fender flares exactly.
> >>>
> >>>Mike
> >>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>>
> >>>Intergate wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>How far do you think the 32's will stick out with the stock fender
flares?
> >>>>
> >>>>--
> >>>>Tim
> >>>>
> >>>>[____]
> >>>>(OIIIIIIO)
> >>>>
> >>>>"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> >>>>news:UfKBc.7618$6r4.3754@newssvr22.news.prodig y.com...
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>The 11.50s will stick out 1/2" more than the 10.50s. With a 2" lift,
I'd
> >>>>>go with the 32s.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Intergate wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>What would be better 32x11.50 or 31x10.5 15's as far as sticking out
of
> >>>>>>fenders. I also want to consider how they will fill the wheel wells
with
> >>>>
> >>>>a
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>2" lift
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Trying to understand how the 10.5-11.5-12.5 relates to tire width.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Thanks
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>--
> >>>>>_____________________________________________ ______________
> >>>>>tw
> >>>>>
> >>>>>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> >>>>>01 XJ Sport
> >>>>>
> >>>>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> >>>>>-- Dave Barry
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Pronunciation: 'jEp
> >>>>>Function: noun
> >>>>>Date: 1940
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> >>>>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> >>>>>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> >>>>>World War II.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> >>>>>_____________________________________________ ______________
> >>>>>
> >>
> >>--
> >>________________________________________________ ___________
> >>tw
> >>
> >>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> >>01 XJ Sport
> >>
> >>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> >>-- Dave Barry
> >>
> >>Pronunciation: 'jEp
> >>Function: noun
> >>Date: 1940
> >>
> >>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> >>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> >>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> >>World War II.
> >>
> >>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> >>________________________________________________ ___________
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>
offset. Most backspace I have found so far is 4". any suggestions on 4.5"
backspace wheels and where to get them.
Also with that much backspace will they slip right on without any other mods
and not have me worry about hitting on something inside, turning especially.
--
Tim
[____]
(OIIIIIIO)
"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:330Cc.7802$9v1.5787@newssvr22.news.prodigy.co m...
> Mike, as I recall, you run 9.5" wide tires, so it's really apples and
> oranges. He wants to run 11.50" inch tires. Also, the TJ axles are wider
> than your CJ's.
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
> > I will bet my 33's would mate up perfect to a TJ's stock flares and
> > stock rims with enough lift to clear them just like on mine too.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > twaldron wrote:
> >
> >>I believe the OP has a TJ.
> >>
> >>Mike Romain wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>My 33's fit my stock fender flares exactly.
> >>>
> >>>Mike
> >>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>>
> >>>Intergate wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>How far do you think the 32's will stick out with the stock fender
flares?
> >>>>
> >>>>--
> >>>>Tim
> >>>>
> >>>>[____]
> >>>>(OIIIIIIO)
> >>>>
> >>>>"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> >>>>news:UfKBc.7618$6r4.3754@newssvr22.news.prodig y.com...
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>The 11.50s will stick out 1/2" more than the 10.50s. With a 2" lift,
I'd
> >>>>>go with the 32s.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Intergate wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>What would be better 32x11.50 or 31x10.5 15's as far as sticking out
of
> >>>>>>fenders. I also want to consider how they will fill the wheel wells
with
> >>>>
> >>>>a
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>2" lift
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Trying to understand how the 10.5-11.5-12.5 relates to tire width.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Thanks
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>--
> >>>>>_____________________________________________ ______________
> >>>>>tw
> >>>>>
> >>>>>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> >>>>>01 XJ Sport
> >>>>>
> >>>>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> >>>>>-- Dave Barry
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Pronunciation: 'jEp
> >>>>>Function: noun
> >>>>>Date: 1940
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> >>>>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> >>>>>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> >>>>>World War II.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> >>>>>_____________________________________________ ______________
> >>>>>
> >>
> >>--
> >>________________________________________________ ___________
> >>tw
> >>
> >>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> >>01 XJ Sport
> >>
> >>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> >>-- Dave Barry
> >>
> >>Pronunciation: 'jEp
> >>Function: noun
> >>Date: 1940
> >>
> >>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> >>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> >>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> >>World War II.
> >>
> >>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> >>________________________________________________ ___________
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>
06-22-2004, 05:27 PM
#59
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 2" Lift ?'s
Hey! I may be a little slow, but I'm consistent! I still think you have
the advantage with a "stock look" on a CJ. My Rubicon came with 5.0" BS
and 10.50" tires from the factory and they reach the edge of the 4"
factory flares (which are wider than the std. TJ flares). Any increase
in tire width or BS puts the tire outside the flare.
I agree with you on the "stock look".
Mike Romain wrote:
> Ahhh, you finally caught on!
>
> I was trying to make that point seeing as others have already told him
> it is the 9.5 or 11.5 that makes the difference, not the height of 31,
> 32 or 33".
>
> I really like the 'stock' look on Jeeps with the tall skinny matching up
> to the factory flares.
>
> A TJ properly set up will match the flare to the tire too.
>
> I especially like the good traction from that setup. (the military
> still use tall skinny on their 'Jeeps' or Iltis jeep wannabes for good
> reason)
>
> I went from being totally unsafe on the road in any snow over 40 mph
> with 10.5's to being able to follow the transport trucks at 60 mph in 4"
> of snow with the 3" on the tread narrower 9.5's.
>
> Mike
>
> twaldron wrote:
>
>>Mike, as I recall, you run 9.5" wide tires, so it's really apples and
>>oranges. He wants to run 11.50" inch tires. Also, the TJ axles are wider
>>than your CJ's.
>>
>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I will bet my 33's would mate up perfect to a TJ's stock flares and
>>>stock rims with enough lift to clear them just like on mine too.
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>
>>>twaldron wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I believe the OP has a TJ.
>>>>
>>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>My 33's fit my stock fender flares exactly.
>>>>>
>>>>>Mike
>>>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>>>
>>>>>Intergate wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>How far do you think the 32's will stick out with the stock fender flares?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>--
>>>>>>Tim
>>>>>>
>>>>>>[____]
>>>>>>(OIIIIIIO)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:UfKBc.7618$6r4.3754@newssvr22.news.prod igy.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The 11.50s will stick out 1/2" more than the 10.50s. With a 2" lift, I'd
>>>>>>>go with the 32s.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Intergate wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>What would be better 32x11.50 or 31x10.5 15's as far as sticking out of
>>>>>>>>fenders. I also want to consider how they will fill the wheel wells with
>>>>>>
>>>>>>a
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>2" lift
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Trying to understand how the 10.5-11.5-12.5 relates to tire width.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Thanks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>--
>>>>>>>___________________________________________ ________________
>>>>>>>tw
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
>>>>>>>01 XJ Sport
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
>>>>>>>-- Dave Barry
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Pronunciation: 'jEp
>>>>>>>Function: noun
>>>>>>>Date: 1940
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>>>>>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
>>>>>>>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
>>>>>>>World War II.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
>>>>>>>___________________________________________ ________________
>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>______________________________________________ _____________
>>>>tw
>>>>
>>>>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
>>>>01 XJ Sport
>>>>
>>>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
>>>>-- Dave Barry
>>>>
>>>>Pronunciation: 'jEp
>>>>Function: noun
>>>>Date: 1940
>>>>
>>>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
>>>>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
>>>>World War II.
>>>>
>>>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
>>>>______________________________________________ _____________
>>
>>--
>>________________________________________________ ___________
>>tw
>>
>>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
>>01 XJ Sport
>>
>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
>>-- Dave Barry
>>
>>Pronunciation: 'jEp
>>Function: noun
>>Date: 1940
>>
>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
>>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
>>World War II.
>>
>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
>>________________________________________________ ___________
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
the advantage with a "stock look" on a CJ. My Rubicon came with 5.0" BS
and 10.50" tires from the factory and they reach the edge of the 4"
factory flares (which are wider than the std. TJ flares). Any increase
in tire width or BS puts the tire outside the flare.
I agree with you on the "stock look".
Mike Romain wrote:
> Ahhh, you finally caught on!
>
> I was trying to make that point seeing as others have already told him
> it is the 9.5 or 11.5 that makes the difference, not the height of 31,
> 32 or 33".
>
> I really like the 'stock' look on Jeeps with the tall skinny matching up
> to the factory flares.
>
> A TJ properly set up will match the flare to the tire too.
>
> I especially like the good traction from that setup. (the military
> still use tall skinny on their 'Jeeps' or Iltis jeep wannabes for good
> reason)
>
> I went from being totally unsafe on the road in any snow over 40 mph
> with 10.5's to being able to follow the transport trucks at 60 mph in 4"
> of snow with the 3" on the tread narrower 9.5's.
>
> Mike
>
> twaldron wrote:
>
>>Mike, as I recall, you run 9.5" wide tires, so it's really apples and
>>oranges. He wants to run 11.50" inch tires. Also, the TJ axles are wider
>>than your CJ's.
>>
>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I will bet my 33's would mate up perfect to a TJ's stock flares and
>>>stock rims with enough lift to clear them just like on mine too.
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>
>>>twaldron wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I believe the OP has a TJ.
>>>>
>>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>My 33's fit my stock fender flares exactly.
>>>>>
>>>>>Mike
>>>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>>>
>>>>>Intergate wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>How far do you think the 32's will stick out with the stock fender flares?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>--
>>>>>>Tim
>>>>>>
>>>>>>[____]
>>>>>>(OIIIIIIO)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:UfKBc.7618$6r4.3754@newssvr22.news.prod igy.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The 11.50s will stick out 1/2" more than the 10.50s. With a 2" lift, I'd
>>>>>>>go with the 32s.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Intergate wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>What would be better 32x11.50 or 31x10.5 15's as far as sticking out of
>>>>>>>>fenders. I also want to consider how they will fill the wheel wells with
>>>>>>
>>>>>>a
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>2" lift
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Trying to understand how the 10.5-11.5-12.5 relates to tire width.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Thanks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>--
>>>>>>>___________________________________________ ________________
>>>>>>>tw
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
>>>>>>>01 XJ Sport
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
>>>>>>>-- Dave Barry
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Pronunciation: 'jEp
>>>>>>>Function: noun
>>>>>>>Date: 1940
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>>>>>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
>>>>>>>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
>>>>>>>World War II.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
>>>>>>>___________________________________________ ________________
>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>______________________________________________ _____________
>>>>tw
>>>>
>>>>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
>>>>01 XJ Sport
>>>>
>>>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
>>>>-- Dave Barry
>>>>
>>>>Pronunciation: 'jEp
>>>>Function: noun
>>>>Date: 1940
>>>>
>>>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
>>>>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
>>>>World War II.
>>>>
>>>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
>>>>______________________________________________ _____________
>>
>>--
>>________________________________________________ ___________
>>tw
>>
>>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
>>01 XJ Sport
>>
>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
>>-- Dave Barry
>>
>>Pronunciation: 'jEp
>>Function: noun
>>Date: 1940
>>
>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
>>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
>>World War II.
>>
>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
>>________________________________________________ ___________
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
06-22-2004, 05:27 PM
#60
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 2" Lift ?'s
Hey! I may be a little slow, but I'm consistent! I still think you have
the advantage with a "stock look" on a CJ. My Rubicon came with 5.0" BS
and 10.50" tires from the factory and they reach the edge of the 4"
factory flares (which are wider than the std. TJ flares). Any increase
in tire width or BS puts the tire outside the flare.
I agree with you on the "stock look".
Mike Romain wrote:
> Ahhh, you finally caught on!
>
> I was trying to make that point seeing as others have already told him
> it is the 9.5 or 11.5 that makes the difference, not the height of 31,
> 32 or 33".
>
> I really like the 'stock' look on Jeeps with the tall skinny matching up
> to the factory flares.
>
> A TJ properly set up will match the flare to the tire too.
>
> I especially like the good traction from that setup. (the military
> still use tall skinny on their 'Jeeps' or Iltis jeep wannabes for good
> reason)
>
> I went from being totally unsafe on the road in any snow over 40 mph
> with 10.5's to being able to follow the transport trucks at 60 mph in 4"
> of snow with the 3" on the tread narrower 9.5's.
>
> Mike
>
> twaldron wrote:
>
>>Mike, as I recall, you run 9.5" wide tires, so it's really apples and
>>oranges. He wants to run 11.50" inch tires. Also, the TJ axles are wider
>>than your CJ's.
>>
>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I will bet my 33's would mate up perfect to a TJ's stock flares and
>>>stock rims with enough lift to clear them just like on mine too.
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>
>>>twaldron wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I believe the OP has a TJ.
>>>>
>>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>My 33's fit my stock fender flares exactly.
>>>>>
>>>>>Mike
>>>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>>>
>>>>>Intergate wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>How far do you think the 32's will stick out with the stock fender flares?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>--
>>>>>>Tim
>>>>>>
>>>>>>[____]
>>>>>>(OIIIIIIO)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:UfKBc.7618$6r4.3754@newssvr22.news.prod igy.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The 11.50s will stick out 1/2" more than the 10.50s. With a 2" lift, I'd
>>>>>>>go with the 32s.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Intergate wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>What would be better 32x11.50 or 31x10.5 15's as far as sticking out of
>>>>>>>>fenders. I also want to consider how they will fill the wheel wells with
>>>>>>
>>>>>>a
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>2" lift
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Trying to understand how the 10.5-11.5-12.5 relates to tire width.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Thanks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>--
>>>>>>>___________________________________________ ________________
>>>>>>>tw
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
>>>>>>>01 XJ Sport
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
>>>>>>>-- Dave Barry
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Pronunciation: 'jEp
>>>>>>>Function: noun
>>>>>>>Date: 1940
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>>>>>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
>>>>>>>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
>>>>>>>World War II.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
>>>>>>>___________________________________________ ________________
>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>______________________________________________ _____________
>>>>tw
>>>>
>>>>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
>>>>01 XJ Sport
>>>>
>>>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
>>>>-- Dave Barry
>>>>
>>>>Pronunciation: 'jEp
>>>>Function: noun
>>>>Date: 1940
>>>>
>>>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
>>>>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
>>>>World War II.
>>>>
>>>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
>>>>______________________________________________ _____________
>>
>>--
>>________________________________________________ ___________
>>tw
>>
>>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
>>01 XJ Sport
>>
>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
>>-- Dave Barry
>>
>>Pronunciation: 'jEp
>>Function: noun
>>Date: 1940
>>
>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
>>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
>>World War II.
>>
>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
>>________________________________________________ ___________
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
the advantage with a "stock look" on a CJ. My Rubicon came with 5.0" BS
and 10.50" tires from the factory and they reach the edge of the 4"
factory flares (which are wider than the std. TJ flares). Any increase
in tire width or BS puts the tire outside the flare.
I agree with you on the "stock look".
Mike Romain wrote:
> Ahhh, you finally caught on!
>
> I was trying to make that point seeing as others have already told him
> it is the 9.5 or 11.5 that makes the difference, not the height of 31,
> 32 or 33".
>
> I really like the 'stock' look on Jeeps with the tall skinny matching up
> to the factory flares.
>
> A TJ properly set up will match the flare to the tire too.
>
> I especially like the good traction from that setup. (the military
> still use tall skinny on their 'Jeeps' or Iltis jeep wannabes for good
> reason)
>
> I went from being totally unsafe on the road in any snow over 40 mph
> with 10.5's to being able to follow the transport trucks at 60 mph in 4"
> of snow with the 3" on the tread narrower 9.5's.
>
> Mike
>
> twaldron wrote:
>
>>Mike, as I recall, you run 9.5" wide tires, so it's really apples and
>>oranges. He wants to run 11.50" inch tires. Also, the TJ axles are wider
>>than your CJ's.
>>
>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I will bet my 33's would mate up perfect to a TJ's stock flares and
>>>stock rims with enough lift to clear them just like on mine too.
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>
>>>twaldron wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I believe the OP has a TJ.
>>>>
>>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>My 33's fit my stock fender flares exactly.
>>>>>
>>>>>Mike
>>>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>>>
>>>>>Intergate wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>How far do you think the 32's will stick out with the stock fender flares?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>--
>>>>>>Tim
>>>>>>
>>>>>>[____]
>>>>>>(OIIIIIIO)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:UfKBc.7618$6r4.3754@newssvr22.news.prod igy.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The 11.50s will stick out 1/2" more than the 10.50s. With a 2" lift, I'd
>>>>>>>go with the 32s.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Intergate wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>What would be better 32x11.50 or 31x10.5 15's as far as sticking out of
>>>>>>>>fenders. I also want to consider how they will fill the wheel wells with
>>>>>>
>>>>>>a
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>2" lift
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Trying to understand how the 10.5-11.5-12.5 relates to tire width.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Thanks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>--
>>>>>>>___________________________________________ ________________
>>>>>>>tw
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
>>>>>>>01 XJ Sport
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
>>>>>>>-- Dave Barry
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Pronunciation: 'jEp
>>>>>>>Function: noun
>>>>>>>Date: 1940
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>>>>>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
>>>>>>>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
>>>>>>>World War II.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
>>>>>>>___________________________________________ ________________
>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>______________________________________________ _____________
>>>>tw
>>>>
>>>>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
>>>>01 XJ Sport
>>>>
>>>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
>>>>-- Dave Barry
>>>>
>>>>Pronunciation: 'jEp
>>>>Function: noun
>>>>Date: 1940
>>>>
>>>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
>>>>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
>>>>World War II.
>>>>
>>>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
>>>>______________________________________________ _____________
>>
>>--
>>________________________________________________ ___________
>>tw
>>
>>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
>>01 XJ Sport
>>
>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
>>-- Dave Barry
>>
>>Pronunciation: 'jEp
>>Function: noun
>>Date: 1940
>>
>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
>>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
>>World War II.
>>
>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
>>________________________________________________ ___________
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________