1997 WRANGLER SE WON'T START
10-17-2005, 06:01 PM
#31
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Re: 1997 WRANGLER SE WON'T START
Buy a new battery.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
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frankiejr@aol.com wrote:
>
> Thanks for all the great suggestions. I should have mentioned that the
> battery is about a year old and it died one other time (well I assume
> that it died, because I recharged it and it worked fine all summer).
> But, now you got me thinking because last time I charged it, I also
> cleaned the terminal connectors. I'm going to recharge, clean the
> terminals and terminal connectors, the starter and solenoid connections
> and see if that fixes it. Probably a good idea to do that once a year
> away, huh?
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
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frankiejr@aol.com wrote:
>
> Thanks for all the great suggestions. I should have mentioned that the
> battery is about a year old and it died one other time (well I assume
> that it died, because I recharged it and it worked fine all summer).
> But, now you got me thinking because last time I charged it, I also
> cleaned the terminal connectors. I'm going to recharge, clean the
> terminals and terminal connectors, the starter and solenoid connections
> and see if that fixes it. Probably a good idea to do that once a year
> away, huh?
10-17-2005, 09:22 PM
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Re: 1997 WRANGLER SE WON'T START
Ok gents, here's the cure. Sometimes you overlook the simple stuff, so
I said, let me try to jump start this with my suburban, I connected up
the boosters and bingo started immediately, but the instrutment panel
lights were very bright and the battery voltage guage was pinned and
the red check guage light came on. Crap, I thought I may have fried
something or my bigass suburban scared the **** out of my little
wrangler. I drove down the driveway and could smell hot electrical
something, so I shut her down and disconnected the battery, but the bat
v guage was still pinned, I knocked on the dash like any good backyard
mechanic would do and it stayed pinned. I reconnected the battery and
still nothing, now no lights. As a last resort before a bon voyage in
the pond out back, I drove over to my friendly Sears just about closing
time, so they sold me the cheapest diehard for the jeep with no core
fee and plenty of cold crank amps to turn her over in the winter. I
cleaned up the cables and slipped it in her and she loved it! Started
right up, guage back to normal (~13v) and lights just right. Lesson
learned...never trust a battery regardless of how old (mine was just
about 12 months) and never skip over the simple stuff, and always clean
up before slipping it to her! Thanks for all your suggestions!
Cheers!!!
I said, let me try to jump start this with my suburban, I connected up
the boosters and bingo started immediately, but the instrutment panel
lights were very bright and the battery voltage guage was pinned and
the red check guage light came on. Crap, I thought I may have fried
something or my bigass suburban scared the **** out of my little
wrangler. I drove down the driveway and could smell hot electrical
something, so I shut her down and disconnected the battery, but the bat
v guage was still pinned, I knocked on the dash like any good backyard
mechanic would do and it stayed pinned. I reconnected the battery and
still nothing, now no lights. As a last resort before a bon voyage in
the pond out back, I drove over to my friendly Sears just about closing
time, so they sold me the cheapest diehard for the jeep with no core
fee and plenty of cold crank amps to turn her over in the winter. I
cleaned up the cables and slipped it in her and she loved it! Started
right up, guage back to normal (~13v) and lights just right. Lesson
learned...never trust a battery regardless of how old (mine was just
about 12 months) and never skip over the simple stuff, and always clean
up before slipping it to her! Thanks for all your suggestions!
Cheers!!!
10-17-2005, 09:22 PM
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Re: 1997 WRANGLER SE WON'T START
Ok gents, here's the cure. Sometimes you overlook the simple stuff, so
I said, let me try to jump start this with my suburban, I connected up
the boosters and bingo started immediately, but the instrutment panel
lights were very bright and the battery voltage guage was pinned and
the red check guage light came on. Crap, I thought I may have fried
something or my bigass suburban scared the **** out of my little
wrangler. I drove down the driveway and could smell hot electrical
something, so I shut her down and disconnected the battery, but the bat
v guage was still pinned, I knocked on the dash like any good backyard
mechanic would do and it stayed pinned. I reconnected the battery and
still nothing, now no lights. As a last resort before a bon voyage in
the pond out back, I drove over to my friendly Sears just about closing
time, so they sold me the cheapest diehard for the jeep with no core
fee and plenty of cold crank amps to turn her over in the winter. I
cleaned up the cables and slipped it in her and she loved it! Started
right up, guage back to normal (~13v) and lights just right. Lesson
learned...never trust a battery regardless of how old (mine was just
about 12 months) and never skip over the simple stuff, and always clean
up before slipping it to her! Thanks for all your suggestions!
Cheers!!!
I said, let me try to jump start this with my suburban, I connected up
the boosters and bingo started immediately, but the instrutment panel
lights were very bright and the battery voltage guage was pinned and
the red check guage light came on. Crap, I thought I may have fried
something or my bigass suburban scared the **** out of my little
wrangler. I drove down the driveway and could smell hot electrical
something, so I shut her down and disconnected the battery, but the bat
v guage was still pinned, I knocked on the dash like any good backyard
mechanic would do and it stayed pinned. I reconnected the battery and
still nothing, now no lights. As a last resort before a bon voyage in
the pond out back, I drove over to my friendly Sears just about closing
time, so they sold me the cheapest diehard for the jeep with no core
fee and plenty of cold crank amps to turn her over in the winter. I
cleaned up the cables and slipped it in her and she loved it! Started
right up, guage back to normal (~13v) and lights just right. Lesson
learned...never trust a battery regardless of how old (mine was just
about 12 months) and never skip over the simple stuff, and always clean
up before slipping it to her! Thanks for all your suggestions!
Cheers!!!
10-17-2005, 09:22 PM
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Re: 1997 WRANGLER SE WON'T START
Ok gents, here's the cure. Sometimes you overlook the simple stuff, so
I said, let me try to jump start this with my suburban, I connected up
the boosters and bingo started immediately, but the instrutment panel
lights were very bright and the battery voltage guage was pinned and
the red check guage light came on. Crap, I thought I may have fried
something or my bigass suburban scared the **** out of my little
wrangler. I drove down the driveway and could smell hot electrical
something, so I shut her down and disconnected the battery, but the bat
v guage was still pinned, I knocked on the dash like any good backyard
mechanic would do and it stayed pinned. I reconnected the battery and
still nothing, now no lights. As a last resort before a bon voyage in
the pond out back, I drove over to my friendly Sears just about closing
time, so they sold me the cheapest diehard for the jeep with no core
fee and plenty of cold crank amps to turn her over in the winter. I
cleaned up the cables and slipped it in her and she loved it! Started
right up, guage back to normal (~13v) and lights just right. Lesson
learned...never trust a battery regardless of how old (mine was just
about 12 months) and never skip over the simple stuff, and always clean
up before slipping it to her! Thanks for all your suggestions!
Cheers!!!
I said, let me try to jump start this with my suburban, I connected up
the boosters and bingo started immediately, but the instrutment panel
lights were very bright and the battery voltage guage was pinned and
the red check guage light came on. Crap, I thought I may have fried
something or my bigass suburban scared the **** out of my little
wrangler. I drove down the driveway and could smell hot electrical
something, so I shut her down and disconnected the battery, but the bat
v guage was still pinned, I knocked on the dash like any good backyard
mechanic would do and it stayed pinned. I reconnected the battery and
still nothing, now no lights. As a last resort before a bon voyage in
the pond out back, I drove over to my friendly Sears just about closing
time, so they sold me the cheapest diehard for the jeep with no core
fee and plenty of cold crank amps to turn her over in the winter. I
cleaned up the cables and slipped it in her and she loved it! Started
right up, guage back to normal (~13v) and lights just right. Lesson
learned...never trust a battery regardless of how old (mine was just
about 12 months) and never skip over the simple stuff, and always clean
up before slipping it to her! Thanks for all your suggestions!
Cheers!!!
10-18-2005, 08:17 AM
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Re: 1997 WRANGLER SE WON'T START
Frankie,
Just a post note to your battery charging technique, 10 amps is a VERY
high charge rate. It is, imho, a last resort and could lead to
melting/shorting the internal copper plates if the temperature is not
kept under observation. Of course while doing this charging you had
the battery disconnected from the vehicle, the caps lifted for
ventilation, and each cell filled with 'distilled' water, and was
vigillant to maintain the water level. Right? The best rate to charge
a battery is a prolonged trickle charge - say 2amps. Although your
situation may have given to more desperate measures warranting the 10A
rate, there are also the other steps I mentioned above that accompany
this urgency.
A problem battery can be brought back to life and be made almost new.
I have taken old batteries and put them in my ICU. I use an eye
dropper to suck the crap off of the top, add distilled water, than
charge a bit longer, than suck more crap off the top and continue
charging. I continue this until I can see clear water and the plates
are easily viewed (with a flashlight) and continue charging until a
full charge is obtained. After all of this your lights will work fine
but it will not gaurantee the batteries cranking power. This method is
not a high percentage operation, but if you have the time and enjoy the
challenge of bringing one of those suckers back to life - it's kinda
fun.
If maintainence is not ones gig go out and buy a GOOD battery. The
cheapest will put yourself in the same position 6,9,12 months down the
road. A quality battery properly maintained when servicing the jeep
will last and keep on going, and going, and going.....
And as Bill once suggested on this board, use dialectric grease for the
internal connection of the battery and coat the outside with (I think
he said) varnish or paint. I used varnish and it beat the hell out of
my previous use of pertroleum jelly. Good Luck.
Steve
frankiejr@aol.com wrote:
> Ok gents, here's the cure. Sometimes you overlook the simple stuff, so
> I said, let me try to jump start this with my suburban, I connected up
> the boosters and bingo started immediately, but the instrutment panel
> lights were very bright and the battery voltage guage was pinned and
> the red check guage light came on. Crap, I thought I may have fried
> something or my bigass suburban scared the **** out of my little
> wrangler. I drove down the driveway and could smell hot electrical
> something, so I shut her down and disconnected the battery, but the bat
> v guage was still pinned, I knocked on the dash like any good backyard
> mechanic would do and it stayed pinned. I reconnected the battery and
> still nothing, now no lights. As a last resort before a bon voyage in
> the pond out back, I drove over to my friendly Sears just about closing
> time, so they sold me the cheapest diehard for the jeep with no core
> fee and plenty of cold crank amps to turn her over in the winter. I
> cleaned up the cables and slipped it in her and she loved it! Started
> right up, guage back to normal (~13v) and lights just right. Lesson
> learned...never trust a battery regardless of how old (mine was just
> about 12 months) and never skip over the simple stuff, and always clean
> up before slipping it to her! Thanks for all your suggestions!
> Cheers!!!
Just a post note to your battery charging technique, 10 amps is a VERY
high charge rate. It is, imho, a last resort and could lead to
melting/shorting the internal copper plates if the temperature is not
kept under observation. Of course while doing this charging you had
the battery disconnected from the vehicle, the caps lifted for
ventilation, and each cell filled with 'distilled' water, and was
vigillant to maintain the water level. Right? The best rate to charge
a battery is a prolonged trickle charge - say 2amps. Although your
situation may have given to more desperate measures warranting the 10A
rate, there are also the other steps I mentioned above that accompany
this urgency.
A problem battery can be brought back to life and be made almost new.
I have taken old batteries and put them in my ICU. I use an eye
dropper to suck the crap off of the top, add distilled water, than
charge a bit longer, than suck more crap off the top and continue
charging. I continue this until I can see clear water and the plates
are easily viewed (with a flashlight) and continue charging until a
full charge is obtained. After all of this your lights will work fine
but it will not gaurantee the batteries cranking power. This method is
not a high percentage operation, but if you have the time and enjoy the
challenge of bringing one of those suckers back to life - it's kinda
fun.
If maintainence is not ones gig go out and buy a GOOD battery. The
cheapest will put yourself in the same position 6,9,12 months down the
road. A quality battery properly maintained when servicing the jeep
will last and keep on going, and going, and going.....
And as Bill once suggested on this board, use dialectric grease for the
internal connection of the battery and coat the outside with (I think
he said) varnish or paint. I used varnish and it beat the hell out of
my previous use of pertroleum jelly. Good Luck.
Steve
frankiejr@aol.com wrote:
> Ok gents, here's the cure. Sometimes you overlook the simple stuff, so
> I said, let me try to jump start this with my suburban, I connected up
> the boosters and bingo started immediately, but the instrutment panel
> lights were very bright and the battery voltage guage was pinned and
> the red check guage light came on. Crap, I thought I may have fried
> something or my bigass suburban scared the **** out of my little
> wrangler. I drove down the driveway and could smell hot electrical
> something, so I shut her down and disconnected the battery, but the bat
> v guage was still pinned, I knocked on the dash like any good backyard
> mechanic would do and it stayed pinned. I reconnected the battery and
> still nothing, now no lights. As a last resort before a bon voyage in
> the pond out back, I drove over to my friendly Sears just about closing
> time, so they sold me the cheapest diehard for the jeep with no core
> fee and plenty of cold crank amps to turn her over in the winter. I
> cleaned up the cables and slipped it in her and she loved it! Started
> right up, guage back to normal (~13v) and lights just right. Lesson
> learned...never trust a battery regardless of how old (mine was just
> about 12 months) and never skip over the simple stuff, and always clean
> up before slipping it to her! Thanks for all your suggestions!
> Cheers!!!
10-18-2005, 08:17 AM
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Re: 1997 WRANGLER SE WON'T START
Frankie,
Just a post note to your battery charging technique, 10 amps is a VERY
high charge rate. It is, imho, a last resort and could lead to
melting/shorting the internal copper plates if the temperature is not
kept under observation. Of course while doing this charging you had
the battery disconnected from the vehicle, the caps lifted for
ventilation, and each cell filled with 'distilled' water, and was
vigillant to maintain the water level. Right? The best rate to charge
a battery is a prolonged trickle charge - say 2amps. Although your
situation may have given to more desperate measures warranting the 10A
rate, there are also the other steps I mentioned above that accompany
this urgency.
A problem battery can be brought back to life and be made almost new.
I have taken old batteries and put them in my ICU. I use an eye
dropper to suck the crap off of the top, add distilled water, than
charge a bit longer, than suck more crap off the top and continue
charging. I continue this until I can see clear water and the plates
are easily viewed (with a flashlight) and continue charging until a
full charge is obtained. After all of this your lights will work fine
but it will not gaurantee the batteries cranking power. This method is
not a high percentage operation, but if you have the time and enjoy the
challenge of bringing one of those suckers back to life - it's kinda
fun.
If maintainence is not ones gig go out and buy a GOOD battery. The
cheapest will put yourself in the same position 6,9,12 months down the
road. A quality battery properly maintained when servicing the jeep
will last and keep on going, and going, and going.....
And as Bill once suggested on this board, use dialectric grease for the
internal connection of the battery and coat the outside with (I think
he said) varnish or paint. I used varnish and it beat the hell out of
my previous use of pertroleum jelly. Good Luck.
Steve
frankiejr@aol.com wrote:
> Ok gents, here's the cure. Sometimes you overlook the simple stuff, so
> I said, let me try to jump start this with my suburban, I connected up
> the boosters and bingo started immediately, but the instrutment panel
> lights were very bright and the battery voltage guage was pinned and
> the red check guage light came on. Crap, I thought I may have fried
> something or my bigass suburban scared the **** out of my little
> wrangler. I drove down the driveway and could smell hot electrical
> something, so I shut her down and disconnected the battery, but the bat
> v guage was still pinned, I knocked on the dash like any good backyard
> mechanic would do and it stayed pinned. I reconnected the battery and
> still nothing, now no lights. As a last resort before a bon voyage in
> the pond out back, I drove over to my friendly Sears just about closing
> time, so they sold me the cheapest diehard for the jeep with no core
> fee and plenty of cold crank amps to turn her over in the winter. I
> cleaned up the cables and slipped it in her and she loved it! Started
> right up, guage back to normal (~13v) and lights just right. Lesson
> learned...never trust a battery regardless of how old (mine was just
> about 12 months) and never skip over the simple stuff, and always clean
> up before slipping it to her! Thanks for all your suggestions!
> Cheers!!!
Just a post note to your battery charging technique, 10 amps is a VERY
high charge rate. It is, imho, a last resort and could lead to
melting/shorting the internal copper plates if the temperature is not
kept under observation. Of course while doing this charging you had
the battery disconnected from the vehicle, the caps lifted for
ventilation, and each cell filled with 'distilled' water, and was
vigillant to maintain the water level. Right? The best rate to charge
a battery is a prolonged trickle charge - say 2amps. Although your
situation may have given to more desperate measures warranting the 10A
rate, there are also the other steps I mentioned above that accompany
this urgency.
A problem battery can be brought back to life and be made almost new.
I have taken old batteries and put them in my ICU. I use an eye
dropper to suck the crap off of the top, add distilled water, than
charge a bit longer, than suck more crap off the top and continue
charging. I continue this until I can see clear water and the plates
are easily viewed (with a flashlight) and continue charging until a
full charge is obtained. After all of this your lights will work fine
but it will not gaurantee the batteries cranking power. This method is
not a high percentage operation, but if you have the time and enjoy the
challenge of bringing one of those suckers back to life - it's kinda
fun.
If maintainence is not ones gig go out and buy a GOOD battery. The
cheapest will put yourself in the same position 6,9,12 months down the
road. A quality battery properly maintained when servicing the jeep
will last and keep on going, and going, and going.....
And as Bill once suggested on this board, use dialectric grease for the
internal connection of the battery and coat the outside with (I think
he said) varnish or paint. I used varnish and it beat the hell out of
my previous use of pertroleum jelly. Good Luck.
Steve
frankiejr@aol.com wrote:
> Ok gents, here's the cure. Sometimes you overlook the simple stuff, so
> I said, let me try to jump start this with my suburban, I connected up
> the boosters and bingo started immediately, but the instrutment panel
> lights were very bright and the battery voltage guage was pinned and
> the red check guage light came on. Crap, I thought I may have fried
> something or my bigass suburban scared the **** out of my little
> wrangler. I drove down the driveway and could smell hot electrical
> something, so I shut her down and disconnected the battery, but the bat
> v guage was still pinned, I knocked on the dash like any good backyard
> mechanic would do and it stayed pinned. I reconnected the battery and
> still nothing, now no lights. As a last resort before a bon voyage in
> the pond out back, I drove over to my friendly Sears just about closing
> time, so they sold me the cheapest diehard for the jeep with no core
> fee and plenty of cold crank amps to turn her over in the winter. I
> cleaned up the cables and slipped it in her and she loved it! Started
> right up, guage back to normal (~13v) and lights just right. Lesson
> learned...never trust a battery regardless of how old (mine was just
> about 12 months) and never skip over the simple stuff, and always clean
> up before slipping it to her! Thanks for all your suggestions!
> Cheers!!!
10-18-2005, 08:17 AM
#37
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Re: 1997 WRANGLER SE WON'T START
Frankie,
Just a post note to your battery charging technique, 10 amps is a VERY
high charge rate. It is, imho, a last resort and could lead to
melting/shorting the internal copper plates if the temperature is not
kept under observation. Of course while doing this charging you had
the battery disconnected from the vehicle, the caps lifted for
ventilation, and each cell filled with 'distilled' water, and was
vigillant to maintain the water level. Right? The best rate to charge
a battery is a prolonged trickle charge - say 2amps. Although your
situation may have given to more desperate measures warranting the 10A
rate, there are also the other steps I mentioned above that accompany
this urgency.
A problem battery can be brought back to life and be made almost new.
I have taken old batteries and put them in my ICU. I use an eye
dropper to suck the crap off of the top, add distilled water, than
charge a bit longer, than suck more crap off the top and continue
charging. I continue this until I can see clear water and the plates
are easily viewed (with a flashlight) and continue charging until a
full charge is obtained. After all of this your lights will work fine
but it will not gaurantee the batteries cranking power. This method is
not a high percentage operation, but if you have the time and enjoy the
challenge of bringing one of those suckers back to life - it's kinda
fun.
If maintainence is not ones gig go out and buy a GOOD battery. The
cheapest will put yourself in the same position 6,9,12 months down the
road. A quality battery properly maintained when servicing the jeep
will last and keep on going, and going, and going.....
And as Bill once suggested on this board, use dialectric grease for the
internal connection of the battery and coat the outside with (I think
he said) varnish or paint. I used varnish and it beat the hell out of
my previous use of pertroleum jelly. Good Luck.
Steve
frankiejr@aol.com wrote:
> Ok gents, here's the cure. Sometimes you overlook the simple stuff, so
> I said, let me try to jump start this with my suburban, I connected up
> the boosters and bingo started immediately, but the instrutment panel
> lights were very bright and the battery voltage guage was pinned and
> the red check guage light came on. Crap, I thought I may have fried
> something or my bigass suburban scared the **** out of my little
> wrangler. I drove down the driveway and could smell hot electrical
> something, so I shut her down and disconnected the battery, but the bat
> v guage was still pinned, I knocked on the dash like any good backyard
> mechanic would do and it stayed pinned. I reconnected the battery and
> still nothing, now no lights. As a last resort before a bon voyage in
> the pond out back, I drove over to my friendly Sears just about closing
> time, so they sold me the cheapest diehard for the jeep with no core
> fee and plenty of cold crank amps to turn her over in the winter. I
> cleaned up the cables and slipped it in her and she loved it! Started
> right up, guage back to normal (~13v) and lights just right. Lesson
> learned...never trust a battery regardless of how old (mine was just
> about 12 months) and never skip over the simple stuff, and always clean
> up before slipping it to her! Thanks for all your suggestions!
> Cheers!!!
Just a post note to your battery charging technique, 10 amps is a VERY
high charge rate. It is, imho, a last resort and could lead to
melting/shorting the internal copper plates if the temperature is not
kept under observation. Of course while doing this charging you had
the battery disconnected from the vehicle, the caps lifted for
ventilation, and each cell filled with 'distilled' water, and was
vigillant to maintain the water level. Right? The best rate to charge
a battery is a prolonged trickle charge - say 2amps. Although your
situation may have given to more desperate measures warranting the 10A
rate, there are also the other steps I mentioned above that accompany
this urgency.
A problem battery can be brought back to life and be made almost new.
I have taken old batteries and put them in my ICU. I use an eye
dropper to suck the crap off of the top, add distilled water, than
charge a bit longer, than suck more crap off the top and continue
charging. I continue this until I can see clear water and the plates
are easily viewed (with a flashlight) and continue charging until a
full charge is obtained. After all of this your lights will work fine
but it will not gaurantee the batteries cranking power. This method is
not a high percentage operation, but if you have the time and enjoy the
challenge of bringing one of those suckers back to life - it's kinda
fun.
If maintainence is not ones gig go out and buy a GOOD battery. The
cheapest will put yourself in the same position 6,9,12 months down the
road. A quality battery properly maintained when servicing the jeep
will last and keep on going, and going, and going.....
And as Bill once suggested on this board, use dialectric grease for the
internal connection of the battery and coat the outside with (I think
he said) varnish or paint. I used varnish and it beat the hell out of
my previous use of pertroleum jelly. Good Luck.
Steve
frankiejr@aol.com wrote:
> Ok gents, here's the cure. Sometimes you overlook the simple stuff, so
> I said, let me try to jump start this with my suburban, I connected up
> the boosters and bingo started immediately, but the instrutment panel
> lights were very bright and the battery voltage guage was pinned and
> the red check guage light came on. Crap, I thought I may have fried
> something or my bigass suburban scared the **** out of my little
> wrangler. I drove down the driveway and could smell hot electrical
> something, so I shut her down and disconnected the battery, but the bat
> v guage was still pinned, I knocked on the dash like any good backyard
> mechanic would do and it stayed pinned. I reconnected the battery and
> still nothing, now no lights. As a last resort before a bon voyage in
> the pond out back, I drove over to my friendly Sears just about closing
> time, so they sold me the cheapest diehard for the jeep with no core
> fee and plenty of cold crank amps to turn her over in the winter. I
> cleaned up the cables and slipped it in her and she loved it! Started
> right up, guage back to normal (~13v) and lights just right. Lesson
> learned...never trust a battery regardless of how old (mine was just
> about 12 months) and never skip over the simple stuff, and always clean
> up before slipping it to her! Thanks for all your suggestions!
> Cheers!!!
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