1997 grand cherokee (zj) brake, e-brake questions
08-30-2006, 11:50 AM
#11
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Re: 1997 grand cherokee (zj) brake, e-brake questions
kaig wrote:
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
> > To start off, there is a right and a left 'star wheel' They must be in
> > the proper side or they will just fall out possible jamming the rear
> > wheel up.
>
> Thanks, I didn't mess up left side vs right side (unless they were
> already wrong to start with). However, I guess my brake is less
> complicated than what you're thinking of. It's just the parking brake,
> running inside the "drum" of the rotor. It doesn't have any
> auto-adjustment, I'm quite sure of that.
>
> This site I googled may help to visualize things:
> http://www.nagca.com/grandtech/e-bra...eplacement.htm
Ok, they are only 'manual' brakes then by the sounds of it so they would
need adjusting when you notice the lever moves too far.
That is very strange, but hey...
If I were to guess because there is no self adjuster to line up to, I
would still put the star wheel to the back side just because that's the
way the 'full' brake set works....
I'm sure there must be someone else here who knows for sure.
And just FYI, I have given up on the 'glued on' pads and disks because I
'always' have over 50% wear left on the suckers when they let loose.
One pair was just sitting with about 1000 miles or less on them and all
4 fell apart. This was also a chrysler product. Cheap crap.
I now go looking for pads that use rivets to hold them on.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
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>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
> > To start off, there is a right and a left 'star wheel' They must be in
> > the proper side or they will just fall out possible jamming the rear
> > wheel up.
>
> Thanks, I didn't mess up left side vs right side (unless they were
> already wrong to start with). However, I guess my brake is less
> complicated than what you're thinking of. It's just the parking brake,
> running inside the "drum" of the rotor. It doesn't have any
> auto-adjustment, I'm quite sure of that.
>
> This site I googled may help to visualize things:
> http://www.nagca.com/grandtech/e-bra...eplacement.htm
Ok, they are only 'manual' brakes then by the sounds of it so they would
need adjusting when you notice the lever moves too far.
That is very strange, but hey...
If I were to guess because there is no self adjuster to line up to, I
would still put the star wheel to the back side just because that's the
way the 'full' brake set works....
I'm sure there must be someone else here who knows for sure.
And just FYI, I have given up on the 'glued on' pads and disks because I
'always' have over 50% wear left on the suckers when they let loose.
One pair was just sitting with about 1000 miles or less on them and all
4 fell apart. This was also a chrysler product. Cheap crap.
I now go looking for pads that use rivets to hold them on.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
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08-30-2006, 11:50 AM
#12
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Re: 1997 grand cherokee (zj) brake, e-brake questions
kaig wrote:
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
> > To start off, there is a right and a left 'star wheel' They must be in
> > the proper side or they will just fall out possible jamming the rear
> > wheel up.
>
> Thanks, I didn't mess up left side vs right side (unless they were
> already wrong to start with). However, I guess my brake is less
> complicated than what you're thinking of. It's just the parking brake,
> running inside the "drum" of the rotor. It doesn't have any
> auto-adjustment, I'm quite sure of that.
>
> This site I googled may help to visualize things:
> http://www.nagca.com/grandtech/e-bra...eplacement.htm
Ok, they are only 'manual' brakes then by the sounds of it so they would
need adjusting when you notice the lever moves too far.
That is very strange, but hey...
If I were to guess because there is no self adjuster to line up to, I
would still put the star wheel to the back side just because that's the
way the 'full' brake set works....
I'm sure there must be someone else here who knows for sure.
And just FYI, I have given up on the 'glued on' pads and disks because I
'always' have over 50% wear left on the suckers when they let loose.
One pair was just sitting with about 1000 miles or less on them and all
4 fell apart. This was also a chrysler product. Cheap crap.
I now go looking for pads that use rivets to hold them on.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
> > To start off, there is a right and a left 'star wheel' They must be in
> > the proper side or they will just fall out possible jamming the rear
> > wheel up.
>
> Thanks, I didn't mess up left side vs right side (unless they were
> already wrong to start with). However, I guess my brake is less
> complicated than what you're thinking of. It's just the parking brake,
> running inside the "drum" of the rotor. It doesn't have any
> auto-adjustment, I'm quite sure of that.
>
> This site I googled may help to visualize things:
> http://www.nagca.com/grandtech/e-bra...eplacement.htm
Ok, they are only 'manual' brakes then by the sounds of it so they would
need adjusting when you notice the lever moves too far.
That is very strange, but hey...
If I were to guess because there is no self adjuster to line up to, I
would still put the star wheel to the back side just because that's the
way the 'full' brake set works....
I'm sure there must be someone else here who knows for sure.
And just FYI, I have given up on the 'glued on' pads and disks because I
'always' have over 50% wear left on the suckers when they let loose.
One pair was just sitting with about 1000 miles or less on them and all
4 fell apart. This was also a chrysler product. Cheap crap.
I now go looking for pads that use rivets to hold them on.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
08-30-2006, 11:50 AM
#13
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Re: 1997 grand cherokee (zj) brake, e-brake questions
kaig wrote:
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
> > To start off, there is a right and a left 'star wheel' They must be in
> > the proper side or they will just fall out possible jamming the rear
> > wheel up.
>
> Thanks, I didn't mess up left side vs right side (unless they were
> already wrong to start with). However, I guess my brake is less
> complicated than what you're thinking of. It's just the parking brake,
> running inside the "drum" of the rotor. It doesn't have any
> auto-adjustment, I'm quite sure of that.
>
> This site I googled may help to visualize things:
> http://www.nagca.com/grandtech/e-bra...eplacement.htm
Ok, they are only 'manual' brakes then by the sounds of it so they would
need adjusting when you notice the lever moves too far.
That is very strange, but hey...
If I were to guess because there is no self adjuster to line up to, I
would still put the star wheel to the back side just because that's the
way the 'full' brake set works....
I'm sure there must be someone else here who knows for sure.
And just FYI, I have given up on the 'glued on' pads and disks because I
'always' have over 50% wear left on the suckers when they let loose.
One pair was just sitting with about 1000 miles or less on them and all
4 fell apart. This was also a chrysler product. Cheap crap.
I now go looking for pads that use rivets to hold them on.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
> > To start off, there is a right and a left 'star wheel' They must be in
> > the proper side or they will just fall out possible jamming the rear
> > wheel up.
>
> Thanks, I didn't mess up left side vs right side (unless they were
> already wrong to start with). However, I guess my brake is less
> complicated than what you're thinking of. It's just the parking brake,
> running inside the "drum" of the rotor. It doesn't have any
> auto-adjustment, I'm quite sure of that.
>
> This site I googled may help to visualize things:
> http://www.nagca.com/grandtech/e-bra...eplacement.htm
Ok, they are only 'manual' brakes then by the sounds of it so they would
need adjusting when you notice the lever moves too far.
That is very strange, but hey...
If I were to guess because there is no self adjuster to line up to, I
would still put the star wheel to the back side just because that's the
way the 'full' brake set works....
I'm sure there must be someone else here who knows for sure.
And just FYI, I have given up on the 'glued on' pads and disks because I
'always' have over 50% wear left on the suckers when they let loose.
One pair was just sitting with about 1000 miles or less on them and all
4 fell apart. This was also a chrysler product. Cheap crap.
I now go looking for pads that use rivets to hold them on.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
08-31-2006, 09:17 AM
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Re: 1997 grand cherokee (zj) brake, e-brake questions
Just to finish this up, I adjusted the brakes yesterday through that
hole in the backing plate (what a pain), and the parking brake is
working fine now. Initially it would grab strongly on the second click
already, but I backed off the adjustment a little more, just to be sure
it's not dragging when the parking brake is released.
hole in the backing plate (what a pain), and the parking brake is
working fine now. Initially it would grab strongly on the second click
already, but I backed off the adjustment a little more, just to be sure
it's not dragging when the parking brake is released.
08-31-2006, 09:17 AM
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Re: 1997 grand cherokee (zj) brake, e-brake questions
Just to finish this up, I adjusted the brakes yesterday through that
hole in the backing plate (what a pain), and the parking brake is
working fine now. Initially it would grab strongly on the second click
already, but I backed off the adjustment a little more, just to be sure
it's not dragging when the parking brake is released.
hole in the backing plate (what a pain), and the parking brake is
working fine now. Initially it would grab strongly on the second click
already, but I backed off the adjustment a little more, just to be sure
it's not dragging when the parking brake is released.
08-31-2006, 09:17 AM
#16
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Re: 1997 grand cherokee (zj) brake, e-brake questions
Just to finish this up, I adjusted the brakes yesterday through that
hole in the backing plate (what a pain), and the parking brake is
working fine now. Initially it would grab strongly on the second click
already, but I backed off the adjustment a little more, just to be sure
it's not dragging when the parking brake is released.
hole in the backing plate (what a pain), and the parking brake is
working fine now. Initially it would grab strongly on the second click
already, but I backed off the adjustment a little more, just to be sure
it's not dragging when the parking brake is released.
08-31-2006, 09:17 AM
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Re: 1997 grand cherokee (zj) brake, e-brake questions
Just to finish this up, I adjusted the brakes yesterday through that
hole in the backing plate (what a pain), and the parking brake is
working fine now. Initially it would grab strongly on the second click
already, but I backed off the adjustment a little more, just to be sure
it's not dragging when the parking brake is released.
hole in the backing plate (what a pain), and the parking brake is
working fine now. Initially it would grab strongly on the second click
already, but I backed off the adjustment a little more, just to be sure
it's not dragging when the parking brake is released.
08-31-2006, 09:55 AM
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Re: 1997 grand cherokee (zj) brake, e-brake questions
Thanks for the follow up.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
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kaig wrote:
>
> Just to finish this up, I adjusted the brakes yesterday through that
> hole in the backing plate (what a pain), and the parking brake is
> working fine now. Initially it would grab strongly on the second click
> already, but I backed off the adjustment a little more, just to be sure
> it's not dragging when the parking brake is released.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
kaig wrote:
>
> Just to finish this up, I adjusted the brakes yesterday through that
> hole in the backing plate (what a pain), and the parking brake is
> working fine now. Initially it would grab strongly on the second click
> already, but I backed off the adjustment a little more, just to be sure
> it's not dragging when the parking brake is released.
08-31-2006, 09:55 AM
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Re: 1997 grand cherokee (zj) brake, e-brake questions
Thanks for the follow up.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
kaig wrote:
>
> Just to finish this up, I adjusted the brakes yesterday through that
> hole in the backing plate (what a pain), and the parking brake is
> working fine now. Initially it would grab strongly on the second click
> already, but I backed off the adjustment a little more, just to be sure
> it's not dragging when the parking brake is released.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
kaig wrote:
>
> Just to finish this up, I adjusted the brakes yesterday through that
> hole in the backing plate (what a pain), and the parking brake is
> working fine now. Initially it would grab strongly on the second click
> already, but I backed off the adjustment a little more, just to be sure
> it's not dragging when the parking brake is released.
08-31-2006, 09:55 AM
#20
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Re: 1997 grand cherokee (zj) brake, e-brake questions
Thanks for the follow up.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
kaig wrote:
>
> Just to finish this up, I adjusted the brakes yesterday through that
> hole in the backing plate (what a pain), and the parking brake is
> working fine now. Initially it would grab strongly on the second click
> already, but I backed off the adjustment a little more, just to be sure
> it's not dragging when the parking brake is released.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
kaig wrote:
>
> Just to finish this up, I adjusted the brakes yesterday through that
> hole in the backing plate (what a pain), and the parking brake is
> working fine now. Initially it would grab strongly on the second click
> already, but I backed off the adjustment a little more, just to be sure
> it's not dragging when the parking brake is released.