1996 Cherokee 4.0 I6 timing mark. ??
#11
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Re: 1996 Cherokee 4.0 I6 timing mark. ??
But as there are helical gears on the bottom you have to off-set the rotor
when you first guide it in. To get proper placement may take a couple trys
to get it into the right combination of teeth so the rotor is pointing
exactly at the number one terminal..
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> Mike wrote:
>> "Leroy" <DodgemanFromHell@aol.com> wrote in message
>> news:rcd1v2l2d6p3s5bbmm8pontr717dekg4uk@4ax.com...
>>> Hi. I'm new to the group. My neighbor has a 96 Cherokee 4.0 I6 MPFI.
>>> The distributor holddown bolt came out and it spit the distributor
>>> out. He has purchased a new distributor (it bent the shaft on his old
>>> one) and has asked me to help him install the new one.
>>>
>>> He says the engine has no ignition timing mark. That being the case,
>>> how do I position the engine to get the rotor button aligned with the
>>> #1 tower at DTC on #1 cylinder??
>>>
>>> I am a fairly experienced mechanic on Dodges (and Studebakers :)
>>> but am short on practical knowledge on jeeps.
>>>
>>> Just trying to help out a neighbor in distress.
>>>
>>> Thx in advance.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Leroy"
>>
>>
>> 1.. Remove the No. 1 cylinder spark plug. Turn the engine using a
>> socket wrench on the large bolt on the front of the crankshaft pulley.
>> Place a finger near the No. 1 spark plug hole and turn the crankshaft
>> until the piston reaches Top Dead Center (TDC). As the engine approaches
>> TDC, you will feel air being expelled by the No. 1 cylinder. If the
>> position is not being met, turn the engine another full turn (360
>> degree). Once the engine's position is correct, install the spark plug.
>> 2.. Using a flat-bladed screwdriver, in the distributor hole, rotate
>> the oil pump gear so that the slot in the oil pump shaft is in the
>> correct position.
>> 3.. With the distributor cap removed, install the distributor so that
>> the rotor is positioned correctly. Insure that the distributor is fully
>> seated against the cylinder block. If not, remove the distributor and
>> perform the entire procedure again.
>> 4.. Tighten the hold-down bolt to 17 ft. lbs. (23 Nm).
>> 5.. Install distributor cap and ignition wires. Insure that the wires
>> are routed correctly before attempting to start engine.
>>
>>
>
> The rotor should be pointing directly away from the engine block for #1
> also.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
when you first guide it in. To get proper placement may take a couple trys
to get it into the right combination of teeth so the rotor is pointing
exactly at the number one terminal..
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> Mike wrote:
>> "Leroy" <DodgemanFromHell@aol.com> wrote in message
>> news:rcd1v2l2d6p3s5bbmm8pontr717dekg4uk@4ax.com...
>>> Hi. I'm new to the group. My neighbor has a 96 Cherokee 4.0 I6 MPFI.
>>> The distributor holddown bolt came out and it spit the distributor
>>> out. He has purchased a new distributor (it bent the shaft on his old
>>> one) and has asked me to help him install the new one.
>>>
>>> He says the engine has no ignition timing mark. That being the case,
>>> how do I position the engine to get the rotor button aligned with the
>>> #1 tower at DTC on #1 cylinder??
>>>
>>> I am a fairly experienced mechanic on Dodges (and Studebakers :)
>>> but am short on practical knowledge on jeeps.
>>>
>>> Just trying to help out a neighbor in distress.
>>>
>>> Thx in advance.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Leroy"
>>
>>
>> 1.. Remove the No. 1 cylinder spark plug. Turn the engine using a
>> socket wrench on the large bolt on the front of the crankshaft pulley.
>> Place a finger near the No. 1 spark plug hole and turn the crankshaft
>> until the piston reaches Top Dead Center (TDC). As the engine approaches
>> TDC, you will feel air being expelled by the No. 1 cylinder. If the
>> position is not being met, turn the engine another full turn (360
>> degree). Once the engine's position is correct, install the spark plug.
>> 2.. Using a flat-bladed screwdriver, in the distributor hole, rotate
>> the oil pump gear so that the slot in the oil pump shaft is in the
>> correct position.
>> 3.. With the distributor cap removed, install the distributor so that
>> the rotor is positioned correctly. Insure that the distributor is fully
>> seated against the cylinder block. If not, remove the distributor and
>> perform the entire procedure again.
>> 4.. Tighten the hold-down bolt to 17 ft. lbs. (23 Nm).
>> 5.. Install distributor cap and ignition wires. Insure that the wires
>> are routed correctly before attempting to start engine.
>>
>>
>
> The rotor should be pointing directly away from the engine block for #1
> also.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
#12
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Re: 1996 Cherokee 4.0 I6 timing mark. ??
But as there are helical gears on the bottom you have to off-set the rotor
when you first guide it in. To get proper placement may take a couple trys
to get it into the right combination of teeth so the rotor is pointing
exactly at the number one terminal..
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:45f171b7$0$5856$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
> Mike wrote:
>> "Leroy" <DodgemanFromHell@aol.com> wrote in message
>> news:rcd1v2l2d6p3s5bbmm8pontr717dekg4uk@4ax.com...
>>> Hi. I'm new to the group. My neighbor has a 96 Cherokee 4.0 I6 MPFI.
>>> The distributor holddown bolt came out and it spit the distributor
>>> out. He has purchased a new distributor (it bent the shaft on his old
>>> one) and has asked me to help him install the new one.
>>>
>>> He says the engine has no ignition timing mark. That being the case,
>>> how do I position the engine to get the rotor button aligned with the
>>> #1 tower at DTC on #1 cylinder??
>>>
>>> I am a fairly experienced mechanic on Dodges (and Studebakers :)
>>> but am short on practical knowledge on jeeps.
>>>
>>> Just trying to help out a neighbor in distress.
>>>
>>> Thx in advance.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Leroy"
>>
>>
>> 1.. Remove the No. 1 cylinder spark plug. Turn the engine using a
>> socket wrench on the large bolt on the front of the crankshaft pulley.
>> Place a finger near the No. 1 spark plug hole and turn the crankshaft
>> until the piston reaches Top Dead Center (TDC). As the engine approaches
>> TDC, you will feel air being expelled by the No. 1 cylinder. If the
>> position is not being met, turn the engine another full turn (360
>> degree). Once the engine's position is correct, install the spark plug.
>> 2.. Using a flat-bladed screwdriver, in the distributor hole, rotate
>> the oil pump gear so that the slot in the oil pump shaft is in the
>> correct position.
>> 3.. With the distributor cap removed, install the distributor so that
>> the rotor is positioned correctly. Insure that the distributor is fully
>> seated against the cylinder block. If not, remove the distributor and
>> perform the entire procedure again.
>> 4.. Tighten the hold-down bolt to 17 ft. lbs. (23 Nm).
>> 5.. Install distributor cap and ignition wires. Insure that the wires
>> are routed correctly before attempting to start engine.
>>
>>
>
> The rotor should be pointing directly away from the engine block for #1
> also.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
when you first guide it in. To get proper placement may take a couple trys
to get it into the right combination of teeth so the rotor is pointing
exactly at the number one terminal..
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:45f171b7$0$5856$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
> Mike wrote:
>> "Leroy" <DodgemanFromHell@aol.com> wrote in message
>> news:rcd1v2l2d6p3s5bbmm8pontr717dekg4uk@4ax.com...
>>> Hi. I'm new to the group. My neighbor has a 96 Cherokee 4.0 I6 MPFI.
>>> The distributor holddown bolt came out and it spit the distributor
>>> out. He has purchased a new distributor (it bent the shaft on his old
>>> one) and has asked me to help him install the new one.
>>>
>>> He says the engine has no ignition timing mark. That being the case,
>>> how do I position the engine to get the rotor button aligned with the
>>> #1 tower at DTC on #1 cylinder??
>>>
>>> I am a fairly experienced mechanic on Dodges (and Studebakers :)
>>> but am short on practical knowledge on jeeps.
>>>
>>> Just trying to help out a neighbor in distress.
>>>
>>> Thx in advance.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Leroy"
>>
>>
>> 1.. Remove the No. 1 cylinder spark plug. Turn the engine using a
>> socket wrench on the large bolt on the front of the crankshaft pulley.
>> Place a finger near the No. 1 spark plug hole and turn the crankshaft
>> until the piston reaches Top Dead Center (TDC). As the engine approaches
>> TDC, you will feel air being expelled by the No. 1 cylinder. If the
>> position is not being met, turn the engine another full turn (360
>> degree). Once the engine's position is correct, install the spark plug.
>> 2.. Using a flat-bladed screwdriver, in the distributor hole, rotate
>> the oil pump gear so that the slot in the oil pump shaft is in the
>> correct position.
>> 3.. With the distributor cap removed, install the distributor so that
>> the rotor is positioned correctly. Insure that the distributor is fully
>> seated against the cylinder block. If not, remove the distributor and
>> perform the entire procedure again.
>> 4.. Tighten the hold-down bolt to 17 ft. lbs. (23 Nm).
>> 5.. Install distributor cap and ignition wires. Insure that the wires
>> are routed correctly before attempting to start engine.
>>
>>
>
> The rotor should be pointing directly away from the engine block for #1
> also.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
#13
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Re: 1996 Cherokee 4.0 I6 timing mark. ??
But as there are helical gears on the bottom you have to off-set the rotor
when you first guide it in. To get proper placement may take a couple trys
to get it into the right combination of teeth so the rotor is pointing
exactly at the number one terminal..
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:45f171b7$0$5856$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
> Mike wrote:
>> "Leroy" <DodgemanFromHell@aol.com> wrote in message
>> news:rcd1v2l2d6p3s5bbmm8pontr717dekg4uk@4ax.com...
>>> Hi. I'm new to the group. My neighbor has a 96 Cherokee 4.0 I6 MPFI.
>>> The distributor holddown bolt came out and it spit the distributor
>>> out. He has purchased a new distributor (it bent the shaft on his old
>>> one) and has asked me to help him install the new one.
>>>
>>> He says the engine has no ignition timing mark. That being the case,
>>> how do I position the engine to get the rotor button aligned with the
>>> #1 tower at DTC on #1 cylinder??
>>>
>>> I am a fairly experienced mechanic on Dodges (and Studebakers :)
>>> but am short on practical knowledge on jeeps.
>>>
>>> Just trying to help out a neighbor in distress.
>>>
>>> Thx in advance.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Leroy"
>>
>>
>> 1.. Remove the No. 1 cylinder spark plug. Turn the engine using a
>> socket wrench on the large bolt on the front of the crankshaft pulley.
>> Place a finger near the No. 1 spark plug hole and turn the crankshaft
>> until the piston reaches Top Dead Center (TDC). As the engine approaches
>> TDC, you will feel air being expelled by the No. 1 cylinder. If the
>> position is not being met, turn the engine another full turn (360
>> degree). Once the engine's position is correct, install the spark plug.
>> 2.. Using a flat-bladed screwdriver, in the distributor hole, rotate
>> the oil pump gear so that the slot in the oil pump shaft is in the
>> correct position.
>> 3.. With the distributor cap removed, install the distributor so that
>> the rotor is positioned correctly. Insure that the distributor is fully
>> seated against the cylinder block. If not, remove the distributor and
>> perform the entire procedure again.
>> 4.. Tighten the hold-down bolt to 17 ft. lbs. (23 Nm).
>> 5.. Install distributor cap and ignition wires. Insure that the wires
>> are routed correctly before attempting to start engine.
>>
>>
>
> The rotor should be pointing directly away from the engine block for #1
> also.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
when you first guide it in. To get proper placement may take a couple trys
to get it into the right combination of teeth so the rotor is pointing
exactly at the number one terminal..
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:45f171b7$0$5856$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
> Mike wrote:
>> "Leroy" <DodgemanFromHell@aol.com> wrote in message
>> news:rcd1v2l2d6p3s5bbmm8pontr717dekg4uk@4ax.com...
>>> Hi. I'm new to the group. My neighbor has a 96 Cherokee 4.0 I6 MPFI.
>>> The distributor holddown bolt came out and it spit the distributor
>>> out. He has purchased a new distributor (it bent the shaft on his old
>>> one) and has asked me to help him install the new one.
>>>
>>> He says the engine has no ignition timing mark. That being the case,
>>> how do I position the engine to get the rotor button aligned with the
>>> #1 tower at DTC on #1 cylinder??
>>>
>>> I am a fairly experienced mechanic on Dodges (and Studebakers :)
>>> but am short on practical knowledge on jeeps.
>>>
>>> Just trying to help out a neighbor in distress.
>>>
>>> Thx in advance.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Leroy"
>>
>>
>> 1.. Remove the No. 1 cylinder spark plug. Turn the engine using a
>> socket wrench on the large bolt on the front of the crankshaft pulley.
>> Place a finger near the No. 1 spark plug hole and turn the crankshaft
>> until the piston reaches Top Dead Center (TDC). As the engine approaches
>> TDC, you will feel air being expelled by the No. 1 cylinder. If the
>> position is not being met, turn the engine another full turn (360
>> degree). Once the engine's position is correct, install the spark plug.
>> 2.. Using a flat-bladed screwdriver, in the distributor hole, rotate
>> the oil pump gear so that the slot in the oil pump shaft is in the
>> correct position.
>> 3.. With the distributor cap removed, install the distributor so that
>> the rotor is positioned correctly. Insure that the distributor is fully
>> seated against the cylinder block. If not, remove the distributor and
>> perform the entire procedure again.
>> 4.. Tighten the hold-down bolt to 17 ft. lbs. (23 Nm).
>> 5.. Install distributor cap and ignition wires. Insure that the wires
>> are routed correctly before attempting to start engine.
>>
>>
>
> The rotor should be pointing directly away from the engine block for #1
> also.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
#14
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Re: 1996 Cherokee 4.0 I6 timing mark. ??
The trailing edge of the rotor should be just PAST the #1 terminal at
TDC.
On Fri, 9 Mar 2007 09:55:41 -0500, "billy ray"
<billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote:
>But as there are helical gears on the bottom you have to off-set the rotor
>when you first guide it in. To get proper placement may take a couple trys
>to get it into the right combination of teeth so the rotor is pointing
>exactly at the number one terminal..
>
>
>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>news:45f171b7$0$5856$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
>> Mike wrote:
>>> "Leroy" <DodgemanFromHell@aol.com> wrote in message
>>> news:rcd1v2l2d6p3s5bbmm8pontr717dekg4uk@4ax.com...
>>>> Hi. I'm new to the group. My neighbor has a 96 Cherokee 4.0 I6 MPFI.
>>>> The distributor holddown bolt came out and it spit the distributor
>>>> out. He has purchased a new distributor (it bent the shaft on his old
>>>> one) and has asked me to help him install the new one.
>>>>
>>>> He says the engine has no ignition timing mark. That being the case,
>>>> how do I position the engine to get the rotor button aligned with the
>>>> #1 tower at DTC on #1 cylinder??
>>>>
>>>> I am a fairly experienced mechanic on Dodges (and Studebakers :)
>>>> but am short on practical knowledge on jeeps.
>>>>
>>>> Just trying to help out a neighbor in distress.
>>>>
>>>> Thx in advance.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Leroy"
>>>
>>>
>>> 1.. Remove the No. 1 cylinder spark plug. Turn the engine using a
>>> socket wrench on the large bolt on the front of the crankshaft pulley.
>>> Place a finger near the No. 1 spark plug hole and turn the crankshaft
>>> until the piston reaches Top Dead Center (TDC). As the engine approaches
>>> TDC, you will feel air being expelled by the No. 1 cylinder. If the
>>> position is not being met, turn the engine another full turn (360
>>> degree). Once the engine's position is correct, install the spark plug.
>>> 2.. Using a flat-bladed screwdriver, in the distributor hole, rotate
>>> the oil pump gear so that the slot in the oil pump shaft is in the
>>> correct position.
>>> 3.. With the distributor cap removed, install the distributor so that
>>> the rotor is positioned correctly. Insure that the distributor is fully
>>> seated against the cylinder block. If not, remove the distributor and
>>> perform the entire procedure again.
>>> 4.. Tighten the hold-down bolt to 17 ft. lbs. (23 Nm).
>>> 5.. Install distributor cap and ignition wires. Insure that the wires
>>> are routed correctly before attempting to start engine.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> The rotor should be pointing directly away from the engine block for #1
>> also.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
TDC.
On Fri, 9 Mar 2007 09:55:41 -0500, "billy ray"
<billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote:
>But as there are helical gears on the bottom you have to off-set the rotor
>when you first guide it in. To get proper placement may take a couple trys
>to get it into the right combination of teeth so the rotor is pointing
>exactly at the number one terminal..
>
>
>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>news:45f171b7$0$5856$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
>> Mike wrote:
>>> "Leroy" <DodgemanFromHell@aol.com> wrote in message
>>> news:rcd1v2l2d6p3s5bbmm8pontr717dekg4uk@4ax.com...
>>>> Hi. I'm new to the group. My neighbor has a 96 Cherokee 4.0 I6 MPFI.
>>>> The distributor holddown bolt came out and it spit the distributor
>>>> out. He has purchased a new distributor (it bent the shaft on his old
>>>> one) and has asked me to help him install the new one.
>>>>
>>>> He says the engine has no ignition timing mark. That being the case,
>>>> how do I position the engine to get the rotor button aligned with the
>>>> #1 tower at DTC on #1 cylinder??
>>>>
>>>> I am a fairly experienced mechanic on Dodges (and Studebakers :)
>>>> but am short on practical knowledge on jeeps.
>>>>
>>>> Just trying to help out a neighbor in distress.
>>>>
>>>> Thx in advance.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Leroy"
>>>
>>>
>>> 1.. Remove the No. 1 cylinder spark plug. Turn the engine using a
>>> socket wrench on the large bolt on the front of the crankshaft pulley.
>>> Place a finger near the No. 1 spark plug hole and turn the crankshaft
>>> until the piston reaches Top Dead Center (TDC). As the engine approaches
>>> TDC, you will feel air being expelled by the No. 1 cylinder. If the
>>> position is not being met, turn the engine another full turn (360
>>> degree). Once the engine's position is correct, install the spark plug.
>>> 2.. Using a flat-bladed screwdriver, in the distributor hole, rotate
>>> the oil pump gear so that the slot in the oil pump shaft is in the
>>> correct position.
>>> 3.. With the distributor cap removed, install the distributor so that
>>> the rotor is positioned correctly. Insure that the distributor is fully
>>> seated against the cylinder block. If not, remove the distributor and
>>> perform the entire procedure again.
>>> 4.. Tighten the hold-down bolt to 17 ft. lbs. (23 Nm).
>>> 5.. Install distributor cap and ignition wires. Insure that the wires
>>> are routed correctly before attempting to start engine.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> The rotor should be pointing directly away from the engine block for #1
>> also.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
#15
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Re: 1996 Cherokee 4.0 I6 timing mark. ??
The trailing edge of the rotor should be just PAST the #1 terminal at
TDC.
On Fri, 9 Mar 2007 09:55:41 -0500, "billy ray"
<billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote:
>But as there are helical gears on the bottom you have to off-set the rotor
>when you first guide it in. To get proper placement may take a couple trys
>to get it into the right combination of teeth so the rotor is pointing
>exactly at the number one terminal..
>
>
>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>news:45f171b7$0$5856$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
>> Mike wrote:
>>> "Leroy" <DodgemanFromHell@aol.com> wrote in message
>>> news:rcd1v2l2d6p3s5bbmm8pontr717dekg4uk@4ax.com...
>>>> Hi. I'm new to the group. My neighbor has a 96 Cherokee 4.0 I6 MPFI.
>>>> The distributor holddown bolt came out and it spit the distributor
>>>> out. He has purchased a new distributor (it bent the shaft on his old
>>>> one) and has asked me to help him install the new one.
>>>>
>>>> He says the engine has no ignition timing mark. That being the case,
>>>> how do I position the engine to get the rotor button aligned with the
>>>> #1 tower at DTC on #1 cylinder??
>>>>
>>>> I am a fairly experienced mechanic on Dodges (and Studebakers :)
>>>> but am short on practical knowledge on jeeps.
>>>>
>>>> Just trying to help out a neighbor in distress.
>>>>
>>>> Thx in advance.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Leroy"
>>>
>>>
>>> 1.. Remove the No. 1 cylinder spark plug. Turn the engine using a
>>> socket wrench on the large bolt on the front of the crankshaft pulley.
>>> Place a finger near the No. 1 spark plug hole and turn the crankshaft
>>> until the piston reaches Top Dead Center (TDC). As the engine approaches
>>> TDC, you will feel air being expelled by the No. 1 cylinder. If the
>>> position is not being met, turn the engine another full turn (360
>>> degree). Once the engine's position is correct, install the spark plug.
>>> 2.. Using a flat-bladed screwdriver, in the distributor hole, rotate
>>> the oil pump gear so that the slot in the oil pump shaft is in the
>>> correct position.
>>> 3.. With the distributor cap removed, install the distributor so that
>>> the rotor is positioned correctly. Insure that the distributor is fully
>>> seated against the cylinder block. If not, remove the distributor and
>>> perform the entire procedure again.
>>> 4.. Tighten the hold-down bolt to 17 ft. lbs. (23 Nm).
>>> 5.. Install distributor cap and ignition wires. Insure that the wires
>>> are routed correctly before attempting to start engine.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> The rotor should be pointing directly away from the engine block for #1
>> also.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
TDC.
On Fri, 9 Mar 2007 09:55:41 -0500, "billy ray"
<billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote:
>But as there are helical gears on the bottom you have to off-set the rotor
>when you first guide it in. To get proper placement may take a couple trys
>to get it into the right combination of teeth so the rotor is pointing
>exactly at the number one terminal..
>
>
>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>news:45f171b7$0$5856$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
>> Mike wrote:
>>> "Leroy" <DodgemanFromHell@aol.com> wrote in message
>>> news:rcd1v2l2d6p3s5bbmm8pontr717dekg4uk@4ax.com...
>>>> Hi. I'm new to the group. My neighbor has a 96 Cherokee 4.0 I6 MPFI.
>>>> The distributor holddown bolt came out and it spit the distributor
>>>> out. He has purchased a new distributor (it bent the shaft on his old
>>>> one) and has asked me to help him install the new one.
>>>>
>>>> He says the engine has no ignition timing mark. That being the case,
>>>> how do I position the engine to get the rotor button aligned with the
>>>> #1 tower at DTC on #1 cylinder??
>>>>
>>>> I am a fairly experienced mechanic on Dodges (and Studebakers :)
>>>> but am short on practical knowledge on jeeps.
>>>>
>>>> Just trying to help out a neighbor in distress.
>>>>
>>>> Thx in advance.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Leroy"
>>>
>>>
>>> 1.. Remove the No. 1 cylinder spark plug. Turn the engine using a
>>> socket wrench on the large bolt on the front of the crankshaft pulley.
>>> Place a finger near the No. 1 spark plug hole and turn the crankshaft
>>> until the piston reaches Top Dead Center (TDC). As the engine approaches
>>> TDC, you will feel air being expelled by the No. 1 cylinder. If the
>>> position is not being met, turn the engine another full turn (360
>>> degree). Once the engine's position is correct, install the spark plug.
>>> 2.. Using a flat-bladed screwdriver, in the distributor hole, rotate
>>> the oil pump gear so that the slot in the oil pump shaft is in the
>>> correct position.
>>> 3.. With the distributor cap removed, install the distributor so that
>>> the rotor is positioned correctly. Insure that the distributor is fully
>>> seated against the cylinder block. If not, remove the distributor and
>>> perform the entire procedure again.
>>> 4.. Tighten the hold-down bolt to 17 ft. lbs. (23 Nm).
>>> 5.. Install distributor cap and ignition wires. Insure that the wires
>>> are routed correctly before attempting to start engine.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> The rotor should be pointing directly away from the engine block for #1
>> also.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
#16
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Re: 1996 Cherokee 4.0 I6 timing mark. ??
The trailing edge of the rotor should be just PAST the #1 terminal at
TDC.
On Fri, 9 Mar 2007 09:55:41 -0500, "billy ray"
<billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote:
>But as there are helical gears on the bottom you have to off-set the rotor
>when you first guide it in. To get proper placement may take a couple trys
>to get it into the right combination of teeth so the rotor is pointing
>exactly at the number one terminal..
>
>
>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>news:45f171b7$0$5856$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
>> Mike wrote:
>>> "Leroy" <DodgemanFromHell@aol.com> wrote in message
>>> news:rcd1v2l2d6p3s5bbmm8pontr717dekg4uk@4ax.com...
>>>> Hi. I'm new to the group. My neighbor has a 96 Cherokee 4.0 I6 MPFI.
>>>> The distributor holddown bolt came out and it spit the distributor
>>>> out. He has purchased a new distributor (it bent the shaft on his old
>>>> one) and has asked me to help him install the new one.
>>>>
>>>> He says the engine has no ignition timing mark. That being the case,
>>>> how do I position the engine to get the rotor button aligned with the
>>>> #1 tower at DTC on #1 cylinder??
>>>>
>>>> I am a fairly experienced mechanic on Dodges (and Studebakers :)
>>>> but am short on practical knowledge on jeeps.
>>>>
>>>> Just trying to help out a neighbor in distress.
>>>>
>>>> Thx in advance.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Leroy"
>>>
>>>
>>> 1.. Remove the No. 1 cylinder spark plug. Turn the engine using a
>>> socket wrench on the large bolt on the front of the crankshaft pulley.
>>> Place a finger near the No. 1 spark plug hole and turn the crankshaft
>>> until the piston reaches Top Dead Center (TDC). As the engine approaches
>>> TDC, you will feel air being expelled by the No. 1 cylinder. If the
>>> position is not being met, turn the engine another full turn (360
>>> degree). Once the engine's position is correct, install the spark plug.
>>> 2.. Using a flat-bladed screwdriver, in the distributor hole, rotate
>>> the oil pump gear so that the slot in the oil pump shaft is in the
>>> correct position.
>>> 3.. With the distributor cap removed, install the distributor so that
>>> the rotor is positioned correctly. Insure that the distributor is fully
>>> seated against the cylinder block. If not, remove the distributor and
>>> perform the entire procedure again.
>>> 4.. Tighten the hold-down bolt to 17 ft. lbs. (23 Nm).
>>> 5.. Install distributor cap and ignition wires. Insure that the wires
>>> are routed correctly before attempting to start engine.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> The rotor should be pointing directly away from the engine block for #1
>> also.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
TDC.
On Fri, 9 Mar 2007 09:55:41 -0500, "billy ray"
<billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote:
>But as there are helical gears on the bottom you have to off-set the rotor
>when you first guide it in. To get proper placement may take a couple trys
>to get it into the right combination of teeth so the rotor is pointing
>exactly at the number one terminal..
>
>
>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>news:45f171b7$0$5856$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
>> Mike wrote:
>>> "Leroy" <DodgemanFromHell@aol.com> wrote in message
>>> news:rcd1v2l2d6p3s5bbmm8pontr717dekg4uk@4ax.com...
>>>> Hi. I'm new to the group. My neighbor has a 96 Cherokee 4.0 I6 MPFI.
>>>> The distributor holddown bolt came out and it spit the distributor
>>>> out. He has purchased a new distributor (it bent the shaft on his old
>>>> one) and has asked me to help him install the new one.
>>>>
>>>> He says the engine has no ignition timing mark. That being the case,
>>>> how do I position the engine to get the rotor button aligned with the
>>>> #1 tower at DTC on #1 cylinder??
>>>>
>>>> I am a fairly experienced mechanic on Dodges (and Studebakers :)
>>>> but am short on practical knowledge on jeeps.
>>>>
>>>> Just trying to help out a neighbor in distress.
>>>>
>>>> Thx in advance.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Leroy"
>>>
>>>
>>> 1.. Remove the No. 1 cylinder spark plug. Turn the engine using a
>>> socket wrench on the large bolt on the front of the crankshaft pulley.
>>> Place a finger near the No. 1 spark plug hole and turn the crankshaft
>>> until the piston reaches Top Dead Center (TDC). As the engine approaches
>>> TDC, you will feel air being expelled by the No. 1 cylinder. If the
>>> position is not being met, turn the engine another full turn (360
>>> degree). Once the engine's position is correct, install the spark plug.
>>> 2.. Using a flat-bladed screwdriver, in the distributor hole, rotate
>>> the oil pump gear so that the slot in the oil pump shaft is in the
>>> correct position.
>>> 3.. With the distributor cap removed, install the distributor so that
>>> the rotor is positioned correctly. Insure that the distributor is fully
>>> seated against the cylinder block. If not, remove the distributor and
>>> perform the entire procedure again.
>>> 4.. Tighten the hold-down bolt to 17 ft. lbs. (23 Nm).
>>> 5.. Install distributor cap and ignition wires. Insure that the wires
>>> are routed correctly before attempting to start engine.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> The rotor should be pointing directly away from the engine block for #1
>> also.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
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Re: 1996 Cherokee 4.0 I6 timing mark. ??
On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 22:11:48 -0800, bllsht <nospam@dot.net> wrote:
>On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 20:26:18 -0500, Leroy <DodgemanFromHell@aol.com>
>wrote:
>
>>Hi. I'm new to the group. My neighbor has a 96 Cherokee 4.0 I6 MPFI.
>>The distributor holddown bolt came out and it spit the distributor
>>out. He has purchased a new distributor (it bent the shaft on his old
>>one) and has asked me to help him install the new one.
>>
>>He says the engine has no ignition timing mark. That being the case,
>>how do I position the engine to get the rotor button aligned with the
>>#1 tower at DTC on #1 cylinder??
>>
>>I am a fairly experienced mechanic on Dodges (and Studebakers :)
>>but am short on practical knowledge on jeeps.
>>
>>Just trying to help out a neighbor in distress.
>>
>>Thx in advance.
>>
>>
>>
>>"Leroy"
>It's on the timing cover where you'd expect it to be.
>
>
If it was there, we (3 of us) never found it.
Anyway, it was a no-brainer.
The A/C compressor was in the way on #1 so I timed it off of
#6 plug hole and #6 tower on the opposite side of the distributor. Got
#6 on the compression stroke by the "thumb in the hole" method then
ran a screwdriver down the plug hole and could feel the piston
movement when the crank was being turned with a socket (not the
starter!!!). Got #6 as close to DTC as possible by feeling the piston
stop at top . Set the rotor button to where the trail edge had just
cleared the #6 tower and locked it down.
Presto. It ran like a Jeep! :)
Took about 20 minutes and I now have an extra case of beer-- and a
happy neighbor.
A great big old Thank you to all who responded.
"Leroy"
>On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 20:26:18 -0500, Leroy <DodgemanFromHell@aol.com>
>wrote:
>
>>Hi. I'm new to the group. My neighbor has a 96 Cherokee 4.0 I6 MPFI.
>>The distributor holddown bolt came out and it spit the distributor
>>out. He has purchased a new distributor (it bent the shaft on his old
>>one) and has asked me to help him install the new one.
>>
>>He says the engine has no ignition timing mark. That being the case,
>>how do I position the engine to get the rotor button aligned with the
>>#1 tower at DTC on #1 cylinder??
>>
>>I am a fairly experienced mechanic on Dodges (and Studebakers :)
>>but am short on practical knowledge on jeeps.
>>
>>Just trying to help out a neighbor in distress.
>>
>>Thx in advance.
>>
>>
>>
>>"Leroy"
>It's on the timing cover where you'd expect it to be.
>
>
If it was there, we (3 of us) never found it.
Anyway, it was a no-brainer.
The A/C compressor was in the way on #1 so I timed it off of
#6 plug hole and #6 tower on the opposite side of the distributor. Got
#6 on the compression stroke by the "thumb in the hole" method then
ran a screwdriver down the plug hole and could feel the piston
movement when the crank was being turned with a socket (not the
starter!!!). Got #6 as close to DTC as possible by feeling the piston
stop at top . Set the rotor button to where the trail edge had just
cleared the #6 tower and locked it down.
Presto. It ran like a Jeep! :)
Took about 20 minutes and I now have an extra case of beer-- and a
happy neighbor.
A great big old Thank you to all who responded.
"Leroy"
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Re: 1996 Cherokee 4.0 I6 timing mark. ??
On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 22:11:48 -0800, bllsht <nospam@dot.net> wrote:
>On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 20:26:18 -0500, Leroy <DodgemanFromHell@aol.com>
>wrote:
>
>>Hi. I'm new to the group. My neighbor has a 96 Cherokee 4.0 I6 MPFI.
>>The distributor holddown bolt came out and it spit the distributor
>>out. He has purchased a new distributor (it bent the shaft on his old
>>one) and has asked me to help him install the new one.
>>
>>He says the engine has no ignition timing mark. That being the case,
>>how do I position the engine to get the rotor button aligned with the
>>#1 tower at DTC on #1 cylinder??
>>
>>I am a fairly experienced mechanic on Dodges (and Studebakers :)
>>but am short on practical knowledge on jeeps.
>>
>>Just trying to help out a neighbor in distress.
>>
>>Thx in advance.
>>
>>
>>
>>"Leroy"
>It's on the timing cover where you'd expect it to be.
>
>
If it was there, we (3 of us) never found it.
Anyway, it was a no-brainer.
The A/C compressor was in the way on #1 so I timed it off of
#6 plug hole and #6 tower on the opposite side of the distributor. Got
#6 on the compression stroke by the "thumb in the hole" method then
ran a screwdriver down the plug hole and could feel the piston
movement when the crank was being turned with a socket (not the
starter!!!). Got #6 as close to DTC as possible by feeling the piston
stop at top . Set the rotor button to where the trail edge had just
cleared the #6 tower and locked it down.
Presto. It ran like a Jeep! :)
Took about 20 minutes and I now have an extra case of beer-- and a
happy neighbor.
A great big old Thank you to all who responded.
"Leroy"
>On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 20:26:18 -0500, Leroy <DodgemanFromHell@aol.com>
>wrote:
>
>>Hi. I'm new to the group. My neighbor has a 96 Cherokee 4.0 I6 MPFI.
>>The distributor holddown bolt came out and it spit the distributor
>>out. He has purchased a new distributor (it bent the shaft on his old
>>one) and has asked me to help him install the new one.
>>
>>He says the engine has no ignition timing mark. That being the case,
>>how do I position the engine to get the rotor button aligned with the
>>#1 tower at DTC on #1 cylinder??
>>
>>I am a fairly experienced mechanic on Dodges (and Studebakers :)
>>but am short on practical knowledge on jeeps.
>>
>>Just trying to help out a neighbor in distress.
>>
>>Thx in advance.
>>
>>
>>
>>"Leroy"
>It's on the timing cover where you'd expect it to be.
>
>
If it was there, we (3 of us) never found it.
Anyway, it was a no-brainer.
The A/C compressor was in the way on #1 so I timed it off of
#6 plug hole and #6 tower on the opposite side of the distributor. Got
#6 on the compression stroke by the "thumb in the hole" method then
ran a screwdriver down the plug hole and could feel the piston
movement when the crank was being turned with a socket (not the
starter!!!). Got #6 as close to DTC as possible by feeling the piston
stop at top . Set the rotor button to where the trail edge had just
cleared the #6 tower and locked it down.
Presto. It ran like a Jeep! :)
Took about 20 minutes and I now have an extra case of beer-- and a
happy neighbor.
A great big old Thank you to all who responded.
"Leroy"
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Re: 1996 Cherokee 4.0 I6 timing mark. ??
On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 22:11:48 -0800, bllsht <nospam@dot.net> wrote:
>On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 20:26:18 -0500, Leroy <DodgemanFromHell@aol.com>
>wrote:
>
>>Hi. I'm new to the group. My neighbor has a 96 Cherokee 4.0 I6 MPFI.
>>The distributor holddown bolt came out and it spit the distributor
>>out. He has purchased a new distributor (it bent the shaft on his old
>>one) and has asked me to help him install the new one.
>>
>>He says the engine has no ignition timing mark. That being the case,
>>how do I position the engine to get the rotor button aligned with the
>>#1 tower at DTC on #1 cylinder??
>>
>>I am a fairly experienced mechanic on Dodges (and Studebakers :)
>>but am short on practical knowledge on jeeps.
>>
>>Just trying to help out a neighbor in distress.
>>
>>Thx in advance.
>>
>>
>>
>>"Leroy"
>It's on the timing cover where you'd expect it to be.
>
>
If it was there, we (3 of us) never found it.
Anyway, it was a no-brainer.
The A/C compressor was in the way on #1 so I timed it off of
#6 plug hole and #6 tower on the opposite side of the distributor. Got
#6 on the compression stroke by the "thumb in the hole" method then
ran a screwdriver down the plug hole and could feel the piston
movement when the crank was being turned with a socket (not the
starter!!!). Got #6 as close to DTC as possible by feeling the piston
stop at top . Set the rotor button to where the trail edge had just
cleared the #6 tower and locked it down.
Presto. It ran like a Jeep! :)
Took about 20 minutes and I now have an extra case of beer-- and a
happy neighbor.
A great big old Thank you to all who responded.
"Leroy"
>On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 20:26:18 -0500, Leroy <DodgemanFromHell@aol.com>
>wrote:
>
>>Hi. I'm new to the group. My neighbor has a 96 Cherokee 4.0 I6 MPFI.
>>The distributor holddown bolt came out and it spit the distributor
>>out. He has purchased a new distributor (it bent the shaft on his old
>>one) and has asked me to help him install the new one.
>>
>>He says the engine has no ignition timing mark. That being the case,
>>how do I position the engine to get the rotor button aligned with the
>>#1 tower at DTC on #1 cylinder??
>>
>>I am a fairly experienced mechanic on Dodges (and Studebakers :)
>>but am short on practical knowledge on jeeps.
>>
>>Just trying to help out a neighbor in distress.
>>
>>Thx in advance.
>>
>>
>>
>>"Leroy"
>It's on the timing cover where you'd expect it to be.
>
>
If it was there, we (3 of us) never found it.
Anyway, it was a no-brainer.
The A/C compressor was in the way on #1 so I timed it off of
#6 plug hole and #6 tower on the opposite side of the distributor. Got
#6 on the compression stroke by the "thumb in the hole" method then
ran a screwdriver down the plug hole and could feel the piston
movement when the crank was being turned with a socket (not the
starter!!!). Got #6 as close to DTC as possible by feeling the piston
stop at top . Set the rotor button to where the trail edge had just
cleared the #6 tower and locked it down.
Presto. It ran like a Jeep! :)
Took about 20 minutes and I now have an extra case of beer-- and a
happy neighbor.
A great big old Thank you to all who responded.
"Leroy"
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Re: 1996 Cherokee 4.0 I6 timing mark. ??
Leroy wrote:
> On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 22:11:48 -0800, bllsht <nospam@dot.net> wrote:
>
>
>> On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 20:26:18 -0500, Leroy <DodgemanFromHell@aol.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi. I'm new to the group. My neighbor has a 96 Cherokee 4.0 I6 MPFI.
>>> The distributor holddown bolt came out and it spit the distributor
>>> out. He has purchased a new distributor (it bent the shaft on his old
>>> one) and has asked me to help him install the new one.
>>>
>>> He says the engine has no ignition timing mark. That being the case,
>>> how do I position the engine to get the rotor button aligned with the
>>> #1 tower at DTC on #1 cylinder??
>>>
>>> I am a fairly experienced mechanic on Dodges (and Studebakers :)
>>> but am short on practical knowledge on jeeps.
>>>
>>> Just trying to help out a neighbor in distress.
>>>
>>> Thx in advance.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Leroy"
>
>> It's on the timing cover where you'd expect it to be.
>>
>>
>
> If it was there, we (3 of us) never found it.
>
Thanks for the follow up!
You and your 2 friends are correct about there being no timing mark on
the 4.0 engines. I own 2 4.0's.
I just saw --------'s photo over on alt.binaries.pictures.autos.4x4 and
it is -------- just like his posting name. He has shown a photo of what
appears to be a 4.2 engine with it's V-belt pulleys and timing mark.
He is a hard person to follow, sometimes his advise is right on, other
times it is complete --------.
The 4.0 does not have adjustable timing, the distributor fits a notch so
there is no need for anything above a TDC mark.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 22:11:48 -0800, bllsht <nospam@dot.net> wrote:
>
>
>> On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 20:26:18 -0500, Leroy <DodgemanFromHell@aol.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi. I'm new to the group. My neighbor has a 96 Cherokee 4.0 I6 MPFI.
>>> The distributor holddown bolt came out and it spit the distributor
>>> out. He has purchased a new distributor (it bent the shaft on his old
>>> one) and has asked me to help him install the new one.
>>>
>>> He says the engine has no ignition timing mark. That being the case,
>>> how do I position the engine to get the rotor button aligned with the
>>> #1 tower at DTC on #1 cylinder??
>>>
>>> I am a fairly experienced mechanic on Dodges (and Studebakers :)
>>> but am short on practical knowledge on jeeps.
>>>
>>> Just trying to help out a neighbor in distress.
>>>
>>> Thx in advance.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Leroy"
>
>> It's on the timing cover where you'd expect it to be.
>>
>>
>
> If it was there, we (3 of us) never found it.
>
Thanks for the follow up!
You and your 2 friends are correct about there being no timing mark on
the 4.0 engines. I own 2 4.0's.
I just saw --------'s photo over on alt.binaries.pictures.autos.4x4 and
it is -------- just like his posting name. He has shown a photo of what
appears to be a 4.2 engine with it's V-belt pulleys and timing mark.
He is a hard person to follow, sometimes his advise is right on, other
times it is complete --------.
The 4.0 does not have adjustable timing, the distributor fits a notch so
there is no need for anything above a TDC mark.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)