1980 CJ5 Running gear troubles.
11-01-2005, 03:21 AM
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Re: 1980 CJ5 Running gear troubles.
The sound is not necessarily coming from the rear axle. Sounds like this
can travel through the frame or drive train components, or even echo, and
seem to come from a completely different place than the actual source. I
remember a noise in a van, that everyone thought had a bad rear end, that
turned out to be a bad front wheel bearing. I think that you have a clutch
problem. Rear ends, transfer cases, and manual transmissions do not usually
"slip some and then grab". Since you already have the transfer case out,
you are part way to finding the problem. Bill is right. If you take that
hub and axle apart, it may not work right when you put it back together.
My opinions and I deserve a lot more respect now, as I just found out, that
I am going to be a grandpa for the first time. I don't know if they will
listen to me, but if it is a girl I want them to call her Arizona.
Earle
"Frenchy" <mfrench@mt.gov> wrote in message
news:1130796785.487982.215730@o13g2000cwo.googlegr oups.com...
> I have a 1980 CJ5, 4 speed, Dana 30 in the front, AMC 20 in the rear. I
> think the Jeep had a 6 cylinder in it to begin with but now has a 304.
> This is the problem... When you pour the coal to the Jeep it makes a
> treibble sound coming from the back end of the Jeep. Sounds like a
> chain drive slipping over the teeth on a sprocket. It will slip some
> and then grabs and away you go. It does it in any gear and when you
> slip it from Reverse to forward without coming to a complete stop. So,
> I took the inspection cover off the rearend (because that is where the
> sound was coming from. I thought?) One of the shafts on the spider
> gears was worn but things looked good otherwise. I took the transfer
> case out and it looks really good also. So I tried to take the rearend
> completely apart. I assume this Jeep has the two piece tappered axles
> and I can't get the wheel hub off the axle shaft to get at the keepers.
> Any ideas on what I'm doing wrong as to getting the axles out or ideas
> about the terrible sound when you get on it?? Thanks,
>
>
can travel through the frame or drive train components, or even echo, and
seem to come from a completely different place than the actual source. I
remember a noise in a van, that everyone thought had a bad rear end, that
turned out to be a bad front wheel bearing. I think that you have a clutch
problem. Rear ends, transfer cases, and manual transmissions do not usually
"slip some and then grab". Since you already have the transfer case out,
you are part way to finding the problem. Bill is right. If you take that
hub and axle apart, it may not work right when you put it back together.
My opinions and I deserve a lot more respect now, as I just found out, that
I am going to be a grandpa for the first time. I don't know if they will
listen to me, but if it is a girl I want them to call her Arizona.
Earle
"Frenchy" <mfrench@mt.gov> wrote in message
news:1130796785.487982.215730@o13g2000cwo.googlegr oups.com...
> I have a 1980 CJ5, 4 speed, Dana 30 in the front, AMC 20 in the rear. I
> think the Jeep had a 6 cylinder in it to begin with but now has a 304.
> This is the problem... When you pour the coal to the Jeep it makes a
> treibble sound coming from the back end of the Jeep. Sounds like a
> chain drive slipping over the teeth on a sprocket. It will slip some
> and then grabs and away you go. It does it in any gear and when you
> slip it from Reverse to forward without coming to a complete stop. So,
> I took the inspection cover off the rearend (because that is where the
> sound was coming from. I thought?) One of the shafts on the spider
> gears was worn but things looked good otherwise. I took the transfer
> case out and it looks really good also. So I tried to take the rearend
> completely apart. I assume this Jeep has the two piece tappered axles
> and I can't get the wheel hub off the axle shaft to get at the keepers.
> Any ideas on what I'm doing wrong as to getting the axles out or ideas
> about the terrible sound when you get on it?? Thanks,
>
>
11-01-2005, 03:21 AM
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Re: 1980 CJ5 Running gear troubles.
The sound is not necessarily coming from the rear axle. Sounds like this
can travel through the frame or drive train components, or even echo, and
seem to come from a completely different place than the actual source. I
remember a noise in a van, that everyone thought had a bad rear end, that
turned out to be a bad front wheel bearing. I think that you have a clutch
problem. Rear ends, transfer cases, and manual transmissions do not usually
"slip some and then grab". Since you already have the transfer case out,
you are part way to finding the problem. Bill is right. If you take that
hub and axle apart, it may not work right when you put it back together.
My opinions and I deserve a lot more respect now, as I just found out, that
I am going to be a grandpa for the first time. I don't know if they will
listen to me, but if it is a girl I want them to call her Arizona.
Earle
"Frenchy" <mfrench@mt.gov> wrote in message
news:1130796785.487982.215730@o13g2000cwo.googlegr oups.com...
> I have a 1980 CJ5, 4 speed, Dana 30 in the front, AMC 20 in the rear. I
> think the Jeep had a 6 cylinder in it to begin with but now has a 304.
> This is the problem... When you pour the coal to the Jeep it makes a
> treibble sound coming from the back end of the Jeep. Sounds like a
> chain drive slipping over the teeth on a sprocket. It will slip some
> and then grabs and away you go. It does it in any gear and when you
> slip it from Reverse to forward without coming to a complete stop. So,
> I took the inspection cover off the rearend (because that is where the
> sound was coming from. I thought?) One of the shafts on the spider
> gears was worn but things looked good otherwise. I took the transfer
> case out and it looks really good also. So I tried to take the rearend
> completely apart. I assume this Jeep has the two piece tappered axles
> and I can't get the wheel hub off the axle shaft to get at the keepers.
> Any ideas on what I'm doing wrong as to getting the axles out or ideas
> about the terrible sound when you get on it?? Thanks,
>
>
can travel through the frame or drive train components, or even echo, and
seem to come from a completely different place than the actual source. I
remember a noise in a van, that everyone thought had a bad rear end, that
turned out to be a bad front wheel bearing. I think that you have a clutch
problem. Rear ends, transfer cases, and manual transmissions do not usually
"slip some and then grab". Since you already have the transfer case out,
you are part way to finding the problem. Bill is right. If you take that
hub and axle apart, it may not work right when you put it back together.
My opinions and I deserve a lot more respect now, as I just found out, that
I am going to be a grandpa for the first time. I don't know if they will
listen to me, but if it is a girl I want them to call her Arizona.
Earle
"Frenchy" <mfrench@mt.gov> wrote in message
news:1130796785.487982.215730@o13g2000cwo.googlegr oups.com...
> I have a 1980 CJ5, 4 speed, Dana 30 in the front, AMC 20 in the rear. I
> think the Jeep had a 6 cylinder in it to begin with but now has a 304.
> This is the problem... When you pour the coal to the Jeep it makes a
> treibble sound coming from the back end of the Jeep. Sounds like a
> chain drive slipping over the teeth on a sprocket. It will slip some
> and then grabs and away you go. It does it in any gear and when you
> slip it from Reverse to forward without coming to a complete stop. So,
> I took the inspection cover off the rearend (because that is where the
> sound was coming from. I thought?) One of the shafts on the spider
> gears was worn but things looked good otherwise. I took the transfer
> case out and it looks really good also. So I tried to take the rearend
> completely apart. I assume this Jeep has the two piece tappered axles
> and I can't get the wheel hub off the axle shaft to get at the keepers.
> Any ideas on what I'm doing wrong as to getting the axles out or ideas
> about the terrible sound when you get on it?? Thanks,
>
>
11-01-2005, 03:21 AM
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Re: 1980 CJ5 Running gear troubles.
The sound is not necessarily coming from the rear axle. Sounds like this
can travel through the frame or drive train components, or even echo, and
seem to come from a completely different place than the actual source. I
remember a noise in a van, that everyone thought had a bad rear end, that
turned out to be a bad front wheel bearing. I think that you have a clutch
problem. Rear ends, transfer cases, and manual transmissions do not usually
"slip some and then grab". Since you already have the transfer case out,
you are part way to finding the problem. Bill is right. If you take that
hub and axle apart, it may not work right when you put it back together.
My opinions and I deserve a lot more respect now, as I just found out, that
I am going to be a grandpa for the first time. I don't know if they will
listen to me, but if it is a girl I want them to call her Arizona.
Earle
"Frenchy" <mfrench@mt.gov> wrote in message
news:1130796785.487982.215730@o13g2000cwo.googlegr oups.com...
> I have a 1980 CJ5, 4 speed, Dana 30 in the front, AMC 20 in the rear. I
> think the Jeep had a 6 cylinder in it to begin with but now has a 304.
> This is the problem... When you pour the coal to the Jeep it makes a
> treibble sound coming from the back end of the Jeep. Sounds like a
> chain drive slipping over the teeth on a sprocket. It will slip some
> and then grabs and away you go. It does it in any gear and when you
> slip it from Reverse to forward without coming to a complete stop. So,
> I took the inspection cover off the rearend (because that is where the
> sound was coming from. I thought?) One of the shafts on the spider
> gears was worn but things looked good otherwise. I took the transfer
> case out and it looks really good also. So I tried to take the rearend
> completely apart. I assume this Jeep has the two piece tappered axles
> and I can't get the wheel hub off the axle shaft to get at the keepers.
> Any ideas on what I'm doing wrong as to getting the axles out or ideas
> about the terrible sound when you get on it?? Thanks,
>
>
can travel through the frame or drive train components, or even echo, and
seem to come from a completely different place than the actual source. I
remember a noise in a van, that everyone thought had a bad rear end, that
turned out to be a bad front wheel bearing. I think that you have a clutch
problem. Rear ends, transfer cases, and manual transmissions do not usually
"slip some and then grab". Since you already have the transfer case out,
you are part way to finding the problem. Bill is right. If you take that
hub and axle apart, it may not work right when you put it back together.
My opinions and I deserve a lot more respect now, as I just found out, that
I am going to be a grandpa for the first time. I don't know if they will
listen to me, but if it is a girl I want them to call her Arizona.
Earle
"Frenchy" <mfrench@mt.gov> wrote in message
news:1130796785.487982.215730@o13g2000cwo.googlegr oups.com...
> I have a 1980 CJ5, 4 speed, Dana 30 in the front, AMC 20 in the rear. I
> think the Jeep had a 6 cylinder in it to begin with but now has a 304.
> This is the problem... When you pour the coal to the Jeep it makes a
> treibble sound coming from the back end of the Jeep. Sounds like a
> chain drive slipping over the teeth on a sprocket. It will slip some
> and then grabs and away you go. It does it in any gear and when you
> slip it from Reverse to forward without coming to a complete stop. So,
> I took the inspection cover off the rearend (because that is where the
> sound was coming from. I thought?) One of the shafts on the spider
> gears was worn but things looked good otherwise. I took the transfer
> case out and it looks really good also. So I tried to take the rearend
> completely apart. I assume this Jeep has the two piece tappered axles
> and I can't get the wheel hub off the axle shaft to get at the keepers.
> Any ideas on what I'm doing wrong as to getting the axles out or ideas
> about the terrible sound when you get on it?? Thanks,
>
>
11-01-2005, 05:17 AM
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"Earle Horton" <nurse-nospam-busters@msn.com> wrote in message
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> The sound is not necessarily coming from the rear axle. Sounds like this
> can travel through the frame or drive train components, or even echo, and
> seem to come from a completely different place than the actual source. I
> remember a noise in a van, that everyone thought had a bad rear end, that
> turned out to be a bad front wheel bearing. I think that you have a
> clutch
> problem. Rear ends, transfer cases, and manual transmissions do not
> usually
> "slip some and then grab". Since you already have the transfer case out,
> you are part way to finding the problem. Bill is right. If you take that
> hub and axle apart, it may not work right when you put it back together.
>
> My opinions and I deserve a lot more respect now, as I just found out,
> that
> I am going to be a grandpa for the first time. I don't know if they will
> listen to me, but if it is a girl I want them to call her Arizona.
>
> Earle
>
> "Frenchy" <mfrench@mt.gov> wrote in message
> news:1130796785.487982.215730@o13g2000cwo.googlegr oups.com...
>> I have a 1980 CJ5, 4 speed, Dana 30 in the front, AMC 20 in the rear. I
>> think the Jeep had a 6 cylinder in it to begin with but now has a 304.
>> This is the problem... When you pour the coal to the Jeep it makes a
>> treibble sound coming from the back end of the Jeep. Sounds like a
>> chain drive slipping over the teeth on a sprocket. It will slip some
>> and then grabs and away you go. It does it in any gear and when you
>> slip it from Reverse to forward without coming to a complete stop. So,
>> I took the inspection cover off the rearend (because that is where the
>> sound was coming from. I thought?) One of the shafts on the spider
>> gears was worn but things looked good otherwise. I took the transfer
>> case out and it looks really good also. So I tried to take the rearend
>> completely apart. I assume this Jeep has the two piece tappered axles
>> and I can't get the wheel hub off the axle shaft to get at the keepers.
>> Any ideas on what I'm doing wrong as to getting the axles out or ideas
>> about the terrible sound when you get on it?? Thanks,
>>
>>
>
>
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"Earle Horton" <nurse-nospam-busters@msn.com> wrote in message
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> The sound is not necessarily coming from the rear axle. Sounds like this
> can travel through the frame or drive train components, or even echo, and
> seem to come from a completely different place than the actual source. I
> remember a noise in a van, that everyone thought had a bad rear end, that
> turned out to be a bad front wheel bearing. I think that you have a
> clutch
> problem. Rear ends, transfer cases, and manual transmissions do not
> usually
> "slip some and then grab". Since you already have the transfer case out,
> you are part way to finding the problem. Bill is right. If you take that
> hub and axle apart, it may not work right when you put it back together.
>
> My opinions and I deserve a lot more respect now, as I just found out,
> that
> I am going to be a grandpa for the first time. I don't know if they will
> listen to me, but if it is a girl I want them to call her Arizona.
>
> Earle
>
> "Frenchy" <mfrench@mt.gov> wrote in message
> news:1130796785.487982.215730@o13g2000cwo.googlegr oups.com...
>> I have a 1980 CJ5, 4 speed, Dana 30 in the front, AMC 20 in the rear. I
>> think the Jeep had a 6 cylinder in it to begin with but now has a 304.
>> This is the problem... When you pour the coal to the Jeep it makes a
>> treibble sound coming from the back end of the Jeep. Sounds like a
>> chain drive slipping over the teeth on a sprocket. It will slip some
>> and then grabs and away you go. It does it in any gear and when you
>> slip it from Reverse to forward without coming to a complete stop. So,
>> I took the inspection cover off the rearend (because that is where the
>> sound was coming from. I thought?) One of the shafts on the spider
>> gears was worn but things looked good otherwise. I took the transfer
>> case out and it looks really good also. So I tried to take the rearend
>> completely apart. I assume this Jeep has the two piece tappered axles
>> and I can't get the wheel hub off the axle shaft to get at the keepers.
>> Any ideas on what I'm doing wrong as to getting the axles out or ideas
>> about the terrible sound when you get on it?? Thanks,
>>
>>
>
>
11-01-2005, 05:17 AM
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"Earle Horton" <nurse-nospam-busters@msn.com> wrote in message
news:436725c6$1_5@alt.athenanews.com...
> The sound is not necessarily coming from the rear axle. Sounds like this
> can travel through the frame or drive train components, or even echo, and
> seem to come from a completely different place than the actual source. I
> remember a noise in a van, that everyone thought had a bad rear end, that
> turned out to be a bad front wheel bearing. I think that you have a
> clutch
> problem. Rear ends, transfer cases, and manual transmissions do not
> usually
> "slip some and then grab". Since you already have the transfer case out,
> you are part way to finding the problem. Bill is right. If you take that
> hub and axle apart, it may not work right when you put it back together.
>
> My opinions and I deserve a lot more respect now, as I just found out,
> that
> I am going to be a grandpa for the first time. I don't know if they will
> listen to me, but if it is a girl I want them to call her Arizona.
>
> Earle
>
> "Frenchy" <mfrench@mt.gov> wrote in message
> news:1130796785.487982.215730@o13g2000cwo.googlegr oups.com...
>> I have a 1980 CJ5, 4 speed, Dana 30 in the front, AMC 20 in the rear. I
>> think the Jeep had a 6 cylinder in it to begin with but now has a 304.
>> This is the problem... When you pour the coal to the Jeep it makes a
>> treibble sound coming from the back end of the Jeep. Sounds like a
>> chain drive slipping over the teeth on a sprocket. It will slip some
>> and then grabs and away you go. It does it in any gear and when you
>> slip it from Reverse to forward without coming to a complete stop. So,
>> I took the inspection cover off the rearend (because that is where the
>> sound was coming from. I thought?) One of the shafts on the spider
>> gears was worn but things looked good otherwise. I took the transfer
>> case out and it looks really good also. So I tried to take the rearend
>> completely apart. I assume this Jeep has the two piece tappered axles
>> and I can't get the wheel hub off the axle shaft to get at the keepers.
>> Any ideas on what I'm doing wrong as to getting the axles out or ideas
>> about the terrible sound when you get on it?? Thanks,
>>
>>
>
>
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"Earle Horton" <nurse-nospam-busters@msn.com> wrote in message
news:436725c6$1_5@alt.athenanews.com...
> The sound is not necessarily coming from the rear axle. Sounds like this
> can travel through the frame or drive train components, or even echo, and
> seem to come from a completely different place than the actual source. I
> remember a noise in a van, that everyone thought had a bad rear end, that
> turned out to be a bad front wheel bearing. I think that you have a
> clutch
> problem. Rear ends, transfer cases, and manual transmissions do not
> usually
> "slip some and then grab". Since you already have the transfer case out,
> you are part way to finding the problem. Bill is right. If you take that
> hub and axle apart, it may not work right when you put it back together.
>
> My opinions and I deserve a lot more respect now, as I just found out,
> that
> I am going to be a grandpa for the first time. I don't know if they will
> listen to me, but if it is a girl I want them to call her Arizona.
>
> Earle
>
> "Frenchy" <mfrench@mt.gov> wrote in message
> news:1130796785.487982.215730@o13g2000cwo.googlegr oups.com...
>> I have a 1980 CJ5, 4 speed, Dana 30 in the front, AMC 20 in the rear. I
>> think the Jeep had a 6 cylinder in it to begin with but now has a 304.
>> This is the problem... When you pour the coal to the Jeep it makes a
>> treibble sound coming from the back end of the Jeep. Sounds like a
>> chain drive slipping over the teeth on a sprocket. It will slip some
>> and then grabs and away you go. It does it in any gear and when you
>> slip it from Reverse to forward without coming to a complete stop. So,
>> I took the inspection cover off the rearend (because that is where the
>> sound was coming from. I thought?) One of the shafts on the spider
>> gears was worn but things looked good otherwise. I took the transfer
>> case out and it looks really good also. So I tried to take the rearend
>> completely apart. I assume this Jeep has the two piece tappered axles
>> and I can't get the wheel hub off the axle shaft to get at the keepers.
>> Any ideas on what I'm doing wrong as to getting the axles out or ideas
>> about the terrible sound when you get on it?? Thanks,
>>
>>
>
>
11-01-2005, 05:17 AM
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"Earle Horton" <nurse-nospam-busters@msn.com> wrote in message
news:436725c6$1_5@alt.athenanews.com...
> The sound is not necessarily coming from the rear axle. Sounds like this
> can travel through the frame or drive train components, or even echo, and
> seem to come from a completely different place than the actual source. I
> remember a noise in a van, that everyone thought had a bad rear end, that
> turned out to be a bad front wheel bearing. I think that you have a
> clutch
> problem. Rear ends, transfer cases, and manual transmissions do not
> usually
> "slip some and then grab". Since you already have the transfer case out,
> you are part way to finding the problem. Bill is right. If you take that
> hub and axle apart, it may not work right when you put it back together.
>
> My opinions and I deserve a lot more respect now, as I just found out,
> that
> I am going to be a grandpa for the first time. I don't know if they will
> listen to me, but if it is a girl I want them to call her Arizona.
>
> Earle
>
> "Frenchy" <mfrench@mt.gov> wrote in message
> news:1130796785.487982.215730@o13g2000cwo.googlegr oups.com...
>> I have a 1980 CJ5, 4 speed, Dana 30 in the front, AMC 20 in the rear. I
>> think the Jeep had a 6 cylinder in it to begin with but now has a 304.
>> This is the problem... When you pour the coal to the Jeep it makes a
>> treibble sound coming from the back end of the Jeep. Sounds like a
>> chain drive slipping over the teeth on a sprocket. It will slip some
>> and then grabs and away you go. It does it in any gear and when you
>> slip it from Reverse to forward without coming to a complete stop. So,
>> I took the inspection cover off the rearend (because that is where the
>> sound was coming from. I thought?) One of the shafts on the spider
>> gears was worn but things looked good otherwise. I took the transfer
>> case out and it looks really good also. So I tried to take the rearend
>> completely apart. I assume this Jeep has the two piece tappered axles
>> and I can't get the wheel hub off the axle shaft to get at the keepers.
>> Any ideas on what I'm doing wrong as to getting the axles out or ideas
>> about the terrible sound when you get on it?? Thanks,
>>
>>
>
>
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"Earle Horton" <nurse-nospam-busters@msn.com> wrote in message
news:436725c6$1_5@alt.athenanews.com...
> The sound is not necessarily coming from the rear axle. Sounds like this
> can travel through the frame or drive train components, or even echo, and
> seem to come from a completely different place than the actual source. I
> remember a noise in a van, that everyone thought had a bad rear end, that
> turned out to be a bad front wheel bearing. I think that you have a
> clutch
> problem. Rear ends, transfer cases, and manual transmissions do not
> usually
> "slip some and then grab". Since you already have the transfer case out,
> you are part way to finding the problem. Bill is right. If you take that
> hub and axle apart, it may not work right when you put it back together.
>
> My opinions and I deserve a lot more respect now, as I just found out,
> that
> I am going to be a grandpa for the first time. I don't know if they will
> listen to me, but if it is a girl I want them to call her Arizona.
>
> Earle
>
> "Frenchy" <mfrench@mt.gov> wrote in message
> news:1130796785.487982.215730@o13g2000cwo.googlegr oups.com...
>> I have a 1980 CJ5, 4 speed, Dana 30 in the front, AMC 20 in the rear. I
>> think the Jeep had a 6 cylinder in it to begin with but now has a 304.
>> This is the problem... When you pour the coal to the Jeep it makes a
>> treibble sound coming from the back end of the Jeep. Sounds like a
>> chain drive slipping over the teeth on a sprocket. It will slip some
>> and then grabs and away you go. It does it in any gear and when you
>> slip it from Reverse to forward without coming to a complete stop. So,
>> I took the inspection cover off the rearend (because that is where the
>> sound was coming from. I thought?) One of the shafts on the spider
>> gears was worn but things looked good otherwise. I took the transfer
>> case out and it looks really good also. So I tried to take the rearend
>> completely apart. I assume this Jeep has the two piece tappered axles
>> and I can't get the wheel hub off the axle shaft to get at the keepers.
>> Any ideas on what I'm doing wrong as to getting the axles out or ideas
>> about the terrible sound when you get on it?? Thanks,
>>
>>
>
>
11-01-2005, 09:28 AM
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Re: 1980 CJ5 Running gear troubles.
Congrats but just when did your kids start listening to you?
Earle Horton wrote:
> The sound is not necessarily coming from the rear axle. Sounds like this
> can travel through the frame or drive train components, or even echo, and
> seem to come from a completely different place than the actual source. I
> remember a noise in a van, that everyone thought had a bad rear end, that
> turned out to be a bad front wheel bearing. I think that you have a clutch
> problem. Rear ends, transfer cases, and manual transmissions do not usually
> "slip some and then grab". Since you already have the transfer case out,
> you are part way to finding the problem. Bill is right. If you take that
> hub and axle apart, it may not work right when you put it back together.
>
> My opinions and I deserve a lot more respect now, as I just found out, that
> I am going to be a grandpa for the first time. I don't know if they will
> listen to me, but if it is a girl I want them to call her Arizona.
>
> Earle
>
> "Frenchy" <mfrench@mt.gov> wrote in message
> news:1130796785.487982.215730@o13g2000cwo.googlegr oups.com...
>
>>I have a 1980 CJ5, 4 speed, Dana 30 in the front, AMC 20 in the rear. I
>>think the Jeep had a 6 cylinder in it to begin with but now has a 304.
>>This is the problem... When you pour the coal to the Jeep it makes a
>>treibble sound coming from the back end of the Jeep. Sounds like a
>>chain drive slipping over the teeth on a sprocket. It will slip some
>>and then grabs and away you go. It does it in any gear and when you
>>slip it from Reverse to forward without coming to a complete stop. So,
>>I took the inspection cover off the rearend (because that is where the
>>sound was coming from. I thought?) One of the shafts on the spider
>>gears was worn but things looked good otherwise. I took the transfer
>>case out and it looks really good also. So I tried to take the rearend
>>completely apart. I assume this Jeep has the two piece tappered axles
>>and I can't get the wheel hub off the axle shaft to get at the keepers.
>> Any ideas on what I'm doing wrong as to getting the axles out or ideas
>>about the terrible sound when you get on it?? Thanks,
>>
>>
>
>
>
Earle Horton wrote:
> The sound is not necessarily coming from the rear axle. Sounds like this
> can travel through the frame or drive train components, or even echo, and
> seem to come from a completely different place than the actual source. I
> remember a noise in a van, that everyone thought had a bad rear end, that
> turned out to be a bad front wheel bearing. I think that you have a clutch
> problem. Rear ends, transfer cases, and manual transmissions do not usually
> "slip some and then grab". Since you already have the transfer case out,
> you are part way to finding the problem. Bill is right. If you take that
> hub and axle apart, it may not work right when you put it back together.
>
> My opinions and I deserve a lot more respect now, as I just found out, that
> I am going to be a grandpa for the first time. I don't know if they will
> listen to me, but if it is a girl I want them to call her Arizona.
>
> Earle
>
> "Frenchy" <mfrench@mt.gov> wrote in message
> news:1130796785.487982.215730@o13g2000cwo.googlegr oups.com...
>
>>I have a 1980 CJ5, 4 speed, Dana 30 in the front, AMC 20 in the rear. I
>>think the Jeep had a 6 cylinder in it to begin with but now has a 304.
>>This is the problem... When you pour the coal to the Jeep it makes a
>>treibble sound coming from the back end of the Jeep. Sounds like a
>>chain drive slipping over the teeth on a sprocket. It will slip some
>>and then grabs and away you go. It does it in any gear and when you
>>slip it from Reverse to forward without coming to a complete stop. So,
>>I took the inspection cover off the rearend (because that is where the
>>sound was coming from. I thought?) One of the shafts on the spider
>>gears was worn but things looked good otherwise. I took the transfer
>>case out and it looks really good also. So I tried to take the rearend
>>completely apart. I assume this Jeep has the two piece tappered axles
>>and I can't get the wheel hub off the axle shaft to get at the keepers.
>> Any ideas on what I'm doing wrong as to getting the axles out or ideas
>>about the terrible sound when you get on it?? Thanks,
>>
>>
>
>
>
11-01-2005, 09:28 AM
#18
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 1980 CJ5 Running gear troubles.
Congrats but just when did your kids start listening to you?
Earle Horton wrote:
> The sound is not necessarily coming from the rear axle. Sounds like this
> can travel through the frame or drive train components, or even echo, and
> seem to come from a completely different place than the actual source. I
> remember a noise in a van, that everyone thought had a bad rear end, that
> turned out to be a bad front wheel bearing. I think that you have a clutch
> problem. Rear ends, transfer cases, and manual transmissions do not usually
> "slip some and then grab". Since you already have the transfer case out,
> you are part way to finding the problem. Bill is right. If you take that
> hub and axle apart, it may not work right when you put it back together.
>
> My opinions and I deserve a lot more respect now, as I just found out, that
> I am going to be a grandpa for the first time. I don't know if they will
> listen to me, but if it is a girl I want them to call her Arizona.
>
> Earle
>
> "Frenchy" <mfrench@mt.gov> wrote in message
> news:1130796785.487982.215730@o13g2000cwo.googlegr oups.com...
>
>>I have a 1980 CJ5, 4 speed, Dana 30 in the front, AMC 20 in the rear. I
>>think the Jeep had a 6 cylinder in it to begin with but now has a 304.
>>This is the problem... When you pour the coal to the Jeep it makes a
>>treibble sound coming from the back end of the Jeep. Sounds like a
>>chain drive slipping over the teeth on a sprocket. It will slip some
>>and then grabs and away you go. It does it in any gear and when you
>>slip it from Reverse to forward without coming to a complete stop. So,
>>I took the inspection cover off the rearend (because that is where the
>>sound was coming from. I thought?) One of the shafts on the spider
>>gears was worn but things looked good otherwise. I took the transfer
>>case out and it looks really good also. So I tried to take the rearend
>>completely apart. I assume this Jeep has the two piece tappered axles
>>and I can't get the wheel hub off the axle shaft to get at the keepers.
>> Any ideas on what I'm doing wrong as to getting the axles out or ideas
>>about the terrible sound when you get on it?? Thanks,
>>
>>
>
>
>
Earle Horton wrote:
> The sound is not necessarily coming from the rear axle. Sounds like this
> can travel through the frame or drive train components, or even echo, and
> seem to come from a completely different place than the actual source. I
> remember a noise in a van, that everyone thought had a bad rear end, that
> turned out to be a bad front wheel bearing. I think that you have a clutch
> problem. Rear ends, transfer cases, and manual transmissions do not usually
> "slip some and then grab". Since you already have the transfer case out,
> you are part way to finding the problem. Bill is right. If you take that
> hub and axle apart, it may not work right when you put it back together.
>
> My opinions and I deserve a lot more respect now, as I just found out, that
> I am going to be a grandpa for the first time. I don't know if they will
> listen to me, but if it is a girl I want them to call her Arizona.
>
> Earle
>
> "Frenchy" <mfrench@mt.gov> wrote in message
> news:1130796785.487982.215730@o13g2000cwo.googlegr oups.com...
>
>>I have a 1980 CJ5, 4 speed, Dana 30 in the front, AMC 20 in the rear. I
>>think the Jeep had a 6 cylinder in it to begin with but now has a 304.
>>This is the problem... When you pour the coal to the Jeep it makes a
>>treibble sound coming from the back end of the Jeep. Sounds like a
>>chain drive slipping over the teeth on a sprocket. It will slip some
>>and then grabs and away you go. It does it in any gear and when you
>>slip it from Reverse to forward without coming to a complete stop. So,
>>I took the inspection cover off the rearend (because that is where the
>>sound was coming from. I thought?) One of the shafts on the spider
>>gears was worn but things looked good otherwise. I took the transfer
>>case out and it looks really good also. So I tried to take the rearend
>>completely apart. I assume this Jeep has the two piece tappered axles
>>and I can't get the wheel hub off the axle shaft to get at the keepers.
>> Any ideas on what I'm doing wrong as to getting the axles out or ideas
>>about the terrible sound when you get on it?? Thanks,
>>
>>
>
>
>
11-01-2005, 09:28 AM
#19
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 1980 CJ5 Running gear troubles.
Congrats but just when did your kids start listening to you?
Earle Horton wrote:
> The sound is not necessarily coming from the rear axle. Sounds like this
> can travel through the frame or drive train components, or even echo, and
> seem to come from a completely different place than the actual source. I
> remember a noise in a van, that everyone thought had a bad rear end, that
> turned out to be a bad front wheel bearing. I think that you have a clutch
> problem. Rear ends, transfer cases, and manual transmissions do not usually
> "slip some and then grab". Since you already have the transfer case out,
> you are part way to finding the problem. Bill is right. If you take that
> hub and axle apart, it may not work right when you put it back together.
>
> My opinions and I deserve a lot more respect now, as I just found out, that
> I am going to be a grandpa for the first time. I don't know if they will
> listen to me, but if it is a girl I want them to call her Arizona.
>
> Earle
>
> "Frenchy" <mfrench@mt.gov> wrote in message
> news:1130796785.487982.215730@o13g2000cwo.googlegr oups.com...
>
>>I have a 1980 CJ5, 4 speed, Dana 30 in the front, AMC 20 in the rear. I
>>think the Jeep had a 6 cylinder in it to begin with but now has a 304.
>>This is the problem... When you pour the coal to the Jeep it makes a
>>treibble sound coming from the back end of the Jeep. Sounds like a
>>chain drive slipping over the teeth on a sprocket. It will slip some
>>and then grabs and away you go. It does it in any gear and when you
>>slip it from Reverse to forward without coming to a complete stop. So,
>>I took the inspection cover off the rearend (because that is where the
>>sound was coming from. I thought?) One of the shafts on the spider
>>gears was worn but things looked good otherwise. I took the transfer
>>case out and it looks really good also. So I tried to take the rearend
>>completely apart. I assume this Jeep has the two piece tappered axles
>>and I can't get the wheel hub off the axle shaft to get at the keepers.
>> Any ideas on what I'm doing wrong as to getting the axles out or ideas
>>about the terrible sound when you get on it?? Thanks,
>>
>>
>
>
>
Earle Horton wrote:
> The sound is not necessarily coming from the rear axle. Sounds like this
> can travel through the frame or drive train components, or even echo, and
> seem to come from a completely different place than the actual source. I
> remember a noise in a van, that everyone thought had a bad rear end, that
> turned out to be a bad front wheel bearing. I think that you have a clutch
> problem. Rear ends, transfer cases, and manual transmissions do not usually
> "slip some and then grab". Since you already have the transfer case out,
> you are part way to finding the problem. Bill is right. If you take that
> hub and axle apart, it may not work right when you put it back together.
>
> My opinions and I deserve a lot more respect now, as I just found out, that
> I am going to be a grandpa for the first time. I don't know if they will
> listen to me, but if it is a girl I want them to call her Arizona.
>
> Earle
>
> "Frenchy" <mfrench@mt.gov> wrote in message
> news:1130796785.487982.215730@o13g2000cwo.googlegr oups.com...
>
>>I have a 1980 CJ5, 4 speed, Dana 30 in the front, AMC 20 in the rear. I
>>think the Jeep had a 6 cylinder in it to begin with but now has a 304.
>>This is the problem... When you pour the coal to the Jeep it makes a
>>treibble sound coming from the back end of the Jeep. Sounds like a
>>chain drive slipping over the teeth on a sprocket. It will slip some
>>and then grabs and away you go. It does it in any gear and when you
>>slip it from Reverse to forward without coming to a complete stop. So,
>>I took the inspection cover off the rearend (because that is where the
>>sound was coming from. I thought?) One of the shafts on the spider
>>gears was worn but things looked good otherwise. I took the transfer
>>case out and it looks really good also. So I tried to take the rearend
>>completely apart. I assume this Jeep has the two piece tappered axles
>>and I can't get the wheel hub off the axle shaft to get at the keepers.
>> Any ideas on what I'm doing wrong as to getting the axles out or ideas
>>about the terrible sound when you get on it?? Thanks,
>>
>>
>
>
>
11-01-2005, 12:45 PM
#20
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 1980 CJ5 Running gear troubles.
RoyJ wrote:
> Congrats but just when did your kids start listening to you?
>
Yeah, I'd like to know that too. I've got kids in their 30's and they
*still* don't listen...even when I'm right.
--
Old Crow
'82 FLTC-P "Pearl"
'95 Wrangler YJ
TOMKAT, SENSA, BS#133, MAMBM, SLOB#13, DH#2