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Iowa883 02-27-2004 12:23 AM

1958 Willys Jeep for sale
 
I am looking at a 1958 willys , it is in good shape but it has a ticking in
the lower side of the engine. The owner said this happened a coupl of years
ago and he tought it was a lower rod bearing. Well , he dropped the pan and
replaced the bearing and it quit for a little while. He used it to push snow
and he said it lasted one winter and now it is doing it again. He thinks it
will probably ned an oversized rod. Is this a major job or a good weekend
project ?
Another note, he said it has a rare trans with 8 fwd gears and 3 reverse.
What is the deal here ? Is it rare ?
He is setting at $1500 the way it sits.
What do you all think ?
It has a good title and registration to drive on the road.
Thanks,
Iowa883



Steve G 02-27-2004 09:03 AM

Re: 1958 Willys Jeep for sale
 
In respect to the engine noise, assume the correct fix to be regrind the
crank and resize the connecting rod. Resizing the rod involves shaving
material from the flat area where the 2 halves meet, thereby making the
diameter of the circle smaller. The circle is then honed back to it's
original, correct diameter. This could be done without removing the
engine/crank, but in all likelihood if there was damage to the rod big end
there is damage/wear out of limit on the crank as well. Not familiar with
the trans and it certainly doesn't sound familiar. A 4 speed trans with a 2
speed transfer case would give you 8 forward speeds, but only 2 in reverse.
Can't imagine a transmission being built with 3 internal reverse gears on a
small vehicle like that.
Steve
"Iowa883" <dswebber@netins.net> wrote in message
news:c1md8l$19k$1@news.netins.net...
> I am looking at a 1958 willys , it is in good shape but it has a ticking

in
> the lower side of the engine. The owner said this happened a coupl of

years
> ago and he tought it was a lower rod bearing. Well , he dropped the pan

and
> replaced the bearing and it quit for a little while. He used it to push

snow
> and he said it lasted one winter and now it is doing it again. He thinks

it
> will probably ned an oversized rod. Is this a major job or a good weekend
> project ?
> Another note, he said it has a rare trans with 8 fwd gears and 3 reverse.
> What is the deal here ? Is it rare ?
> He is setting at $1500 the way it sits.
> What do you all think ?
> It has a good title and registration to drive on the road.
> Thanks,
> Iowa883
>
>




Steve G 02-27-2004 09:03 AM

Re: 1958 Willys Jeep for sale
 
In respect to the engine noise, assume the correct fix to be regrind the
crank and resize the connecting rod. Resizing the rod involves shaving
material from the flat area where the 2 halves meet, thereby making the
diameter of the circle smaller. The circle is then honed back to it's
original, correct diameter. This could be done without removing the
engine/crank, but in all likelihood if there was damage to the rod big end
there is damage/wear out of limit on the crank as well. Not familiar with
the trans and it certainly doesn't sound familiar. A 4 speed trans with a 2
speed transfer case would give you 8 forward speeds, but only 2 in reverse.
Can't imagine a transmission being built with 3 internal reverse gears on a
small vehicle like that.
Steve
"Iowa883" <dswebber@netins.net> wrote in message
news:c1md8l$19k$1@news.netins.net...
> I am looking at a 1958 willys , it is in good shape but it has a ticking

in
> the lower side of the engine. The owner said this happened a coupl of

years
> ago and he tought it was a lower rod bearing. Well , he dropped the pan

and
> replaced the bearing and it quit for a little while. He used it to push

snow
> and he said it lasted one winter and now it is doing it again. He thinks

it
> will probably ned an oversized rod. Is this a major job or a good weekend
> project ?
> Another note, he said it has a rare trans with 8 fwd gears and 3 reverse.
> What is the deal here ? Is it rare ?
> He is setting at $1500 the way it sits.
> What do you all think ?
> It has a good title and registration to drive on the road.
> Thanks,
> Iowa883
>
>




Steve G 02-27-2004 09:03 AM

Re: 1958 Willys Jeep for sale
 
In respect to the engine noise, assume the correct fix to be regrind the
crank and resize the connecting rod. Resizing the rod involves shaving
material from the flat area where the 2 halves meet, thereby making the
diameter of the circle smaller. The circle is then honed back to it's
original, correct diameter. This could be done without removing the
engine/crank, but in all likelihood if there was damage to the rod big end
there is damage/wear out of limit on the crank as well. Not familiar with
the trans and it certainly doesn't sound familiar. A 4 speed trans with a 2
speed transfer case would give you 8 forward speeds, but only 2 in reverse.
Can't imagine a transmission being built with 3 internal reverse gears on a
small vehicle like that.
Steve
"Iowa883" <dswebber@netins.net> wrote in message
news:c1md8l$19k$1@news.netins.net...
> I am looking at a 1958 willys , it is in good shape but it has a ticking

in
> the lower side of the engine. The owner said this happened a coupl of

years
> ago and he tought it was a lower rod bearing. Well , he dropped the pan

and
> replaced the bearing and it quit for a little while. He used it to push

snow
> and he said it lasted one winter and now it is doing it again. He thinks

it
> will probably ned an oversized rod. Is this a major job or a good weekend
> project ?
> Another note, he said it has a rare trans with 8 fwd gears and 3 reverse.
> What is the deal here ? Is it rare ?
> He is setting at $1500 the way it sits.
> What do you all think ?
> It has a good title and registration to drive on the road.
> Thanks,
> Iowa883
>
>




cactuscowboy 02-27-2004 09:17 AM

Re: 1958 Willys Jeep for sale
 
Sounds like the engine needs an overhaul. A quick fix may be just another
short-lived fix.

The "rare trans" sounds odd. Perhaps the Jeep is equipped with an
overdrive?

Best regards,
Dave Rose
Cactus Cowboy
Big Wonderful Wyoming
'49 Willys Pickup (parts truck)
'62 Willys Pickup 4WD 226
'98 XJ Sport
O|||||||O

"Iowa883" <dswebber@netins.net> wrote in message
news:c1md8l$19k$1@news.netins.net...
> I am looking at a 1958 willys , it is in good shape but it has a ticking

in
> the lower side of the engine. The owner said this happened a coupl of

years
> ago and he tought it was a lower rod bearing. Well , he dropped the pan

and
> replaced the bearing and it quit for a little while. He used it to push

snow
> and he said it lasted one winter and now it is doing it again. He thinks

it
> will probably ned an oversized rod. Is this a major job or a good weekend
> project ?
> Another note, he said it has a rare trans with 8 fwd gears and 3 reverse.
> What is the deal here ? Is it rare ?
> He is setting at $1500 the way it sits.
> What do you all think ?
> It has a good title and registration to drive on the road.
> Thanks,
> Iowa883
>
>




cactuscowboy 02-27-2004 09:17 AM

Re: 1958 Willys Jeep for sale
 
Sounds like the engine needs an overhaul. A quick fix may be just another
short-lived fix.

The "rare trans" sounds odd. Perhaps the Jeep is equipped with an
overdrive?

Best regards,
Dave Rose
Cactus Cowboy
Big Wonderful Wyoming
'49 Willys Pickup (parts truck)
'62 Willys Pickup 4WD 226
'98 XJ Sport
O|||||||O

"Iowa883" <dswebber@netins.net> wrote in message
news:c1md8l$19k$1@news.netins.net...
> I am looking at a 1958 willys , it is in good shape but it has a ticking

in
> the lower side of the engine. The owner said this happened a coupl of

years
> ago and he tought it was a lower rod bearing. Well , he dropped the pan

and
> replaced the bearing and it quit for a little while. He used it to push

snow
> and he said it lasted one winter and now it is doing it again. He thinks

it
> will probably ned an oversized rod. Is this a major job or a good weekend
> project ?
> Another note, he said it has a rare trans with 8 fwd gears and 3 reverse.
> What is the deal here ? Is it rare ?
> He is setting at $1500 the way it sits.
> What do you all think ?
> It has a good title and registration to drive on the road.
> Thanks,
> Iowa883
>
>




cactuscowboy 02-27-2004 09:17 AM

Re: 1958 Willys Jeep for sale
 
Sounds like the engine needs an overhaul. A quick fix may be just another
short-lived fix.

The "rare trans" sounds odd. Perhaps the Jeep is equipped with an
overdrive?

Best regards,
Dave Rose
Cactus Cowboy
Big Wonderful Wyoming
'49 Willys Pickup (parts truck)
'62 Willys Pickup 4WD 226
'98 XJ Sport
O|||||||O

"Iowa883" <dswebber@netins.net> wrote in message
news:c1md8l$19k$1@news.netins.net...
> I am looking at a 1958 willys , it is in good shape but it has a ticking

in
> the lower side of the engine. The owner said this happened a coupl of

years
> ago and he tought it was a lower rod bearing. Well , he dropped the pan

and
> replaced the bearing and it quit for a little while. He used it to push

snow
> and he said it lasted one winter and now it is doing it again. He thinks

it
> will probably ned an oversized rod. Is this a major job or a good weekend
> project ?
> Another note, he said it has a rare trans with 8 fwd gears and 3 reverse.
> What is the deal here ? Is it rare ?
> He is setting at $1500 the way it sits.
> What do you all think ?
> It has a good title and registration to drive on the road.
> Thanks,
> Iowa883
>
>




L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 02-27-2004 04:34 PM

Re: 1958 Willys Jeep for sale
 
I've never hear of that, I've just bought oversize inserts, to fit
an a .010, .020, etc., turned main or rod journals
He describing the Warn overdrive:
http://www.----------.com/Dana18.jpg It's like a dirt hauler using two
Browning splitters.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Steve G wrote:
>
> In respect to the engine noise, assume the correct fix to be regrind the
> crank and resize the connecting rod. Resizing the rod involves shaving
> material from the flat area where the 2 halves meet, thereby making the
> diameter of the circle smaller. The circle is then honed back to it's
> original, correct diameter. This could be done without removing the
> engine/crank, but in all likelihood if there was damage to the rod big end
> there is damage/wear out of limit on the crank as well. Not familiar with
> the trans and it certainly doesn't sound familiar. A 4 speed trans with a 2
> speed transfer case would give you 8 forward speeds, but only 2 in reverse.
> Can't imagine a transmission being built with 3 internal reverse gears on a
> small vehicle like that.
> Steve


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 02-27-2004 04:34 PM

Re: 1958 Willys Jeep for sale
 
I've never hear of that, I've just bought oversize inserts, to fit
an a .010, .020, etc., turned main or rod journals
He describing the Warn overdrive:
http://www.----------.com/Dana18.jpg It's like a dirt hauler using two
Browning splitters.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Steve G wrote:
>
> In respect to the engine noise, assume the correct fix to be regrind the
> crank and resize the connecting rod. Resizing the rod involves shaving
> material from the flat area where the 2 halves meet, thereby making the
> diameter of the circle smaller. The circle is then honed back to it's
> original, correct diameter. This could be done without removing the
> engine/crank, but in all likelihood if there was damage to the rod big end
> there is damage/wear out of limit on the crank as well. Not familiar with
> the trans and it certainly doesn't sound familiar. A 4 speed trans with a 2
> speed transfer case would give you 8 forward speeds, but only 2 in reverse.
> Can't imagine a transmission being built with 3 internal reverse gears on a
> small vehicle like that.
> Steve


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 02-27-2004 04:34 PM

Re: 1958 Willys Jeep for sale
 
I've never hear of that, I've just bought oversize inserts, to fit
an a .010, .020, etc., turned main or rod journals
He describing the Warn overdrive:
http://www.----------.com/Dana18.jpg It's like a dirt hauler using two
Browning splitters.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Steve G wrote:
>
> In respect to the engine noise, assume the correct fix to be regrind the
> crank and resize the connecting rod. Resizing the rod involves shaving
> material from the flat area where the 2 halves meet, thereby making the
> diameter of the circle smaller. The circle is then honed back to it's
> original, correct diameter. This could be done without removing the
> engine/crank, but in all likelihood if there was damage to the rod big end
> there is damage/wear out of limit on the crank as well. Not familiar with
> the trans and it certainly doesn't sound familiar. A 4 speed trans with a 2
> speed transfer case would give you 8 forward speeds, but only 2 in reverse.
> Can't imagine a transmission being built with 3 internal reverse gears on a
> small vehicle like that.
> Steve



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