134a Refrigerant
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
"Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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>> those were YOUR words, liar.
>
> But you had to lie again, and say:
sorry liar. all i did was quote your lies. if they hurt, to bad. :-)
> Not irrelevant when it shows you *LYING*.
you pathetic little liar. you choked stevie. from your "two valves and a
pipe" to your "expansion valve regulates condensor pressure" (BUWAHAHA!)
youve choked. :-) its been a sincere pleasure to expose your ignorance,
boy. :-)
> Yeah, and that's plenty, let me assure
> you.
lol......an assurance coming from a liar. no thanks. :-)
> And I speak the truth, and know
> of which I speak... in contrast to you.
LOL! on which count? your two valves and a pipe? on the expansion valve
controlling condensor pressure? BUWHAHAHA! :-)
> Another lie! You said the two valves were
> for regulating the flow and the bypass!
LIAR! those were YOUR valves liar. youre the STUPID ---- that was going to
stand on the roof 24/7 regulating the pressures. :-)
> Nope... you can't connect two valves
> and a pipe, and end up with a Y
> arrangement
it was YOUR stupid arrangement liar. all i did was tell you how foolish it
was. "two valves and a pipe" BUWAHAHA!
> Doesn't matter... you have no credibility.
lol....ok, so the expansion valve doesnt regulate the evap pressure just
because i said so? lol.....what a stupid liar.
--
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http://BighornRefrigeration.com
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>> those were YOUR words, liar.
>
> But you had to lie again, and say:
sorry liar. all i did was quote your lies. if they hurt, to bad. :-)
> Not irrelevant when it shows you *LYING*.
you pathetic little liar. you choked stevie. from your "two valves and a
pipe" to your "expansion valve regulates condensor pressure" (BUWAHAHA!)
youve choked. :-) its been a sincere pleasure to expose your ignorance,
boy. :-)
> Yeah, and that's plenty, let me assure
> you.
lol......an assurance coming from a liar. no thanks. :-)
> And I speak the truth, and know
> of which I speak... in contrast to you.
LOL! on which count? your two valves and a pipe? on the expansion valve
controlling condensor pressure? BUWHAHAHA! :-)
> Another lie! You said the two valves were
> for regulating the flow and the bypass!
LIAR! those were YOUR valves liar. youre the STUPID ---- that was going to
stand on the roof 24/7 regulating the pressures. :-)
> Nope... you can't connect two valves
> and a pipe, and end up with a Y
> arrangement
it was YOUR stupid arrangement liar. all i did was tell you how foolish it
was. "two valves and a pipe" BUWAHAHA!
> Doesn't matter... you have no credibility.
lol....ok, so the expansion valve doesnt regulate the evap pressure just
because i said so? lol.....what a stupid liar.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://InlineDiesel.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> Stephen Cowell wrote:
> >
> > But do you *understand* it, Bill? BTW,
> > thanks for Iraq.
> You are like that Mother blaming her
> son's death on President Bush,
> you don't have a clue! What a loser!
I could *never* have the courage and
forthrightness of a Cindy Sheehan...
I can only aspire to that level.
You, on the other hand, spin and
weasel like any other Neo-Con
faced with past mistakes.
__
Steve
"i recognize my limitations and
immediately own it (sic). " -- Nate
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> Stephen Cowell wrote:
> >
> > But do you *understand* it, Bill? BTW,
> > thanks for Iraq.
> You are like that Mother blaming her
> son's death on President Bush,
> you don't have a clue! What a loser!
I could *never* have the courage and
forthrightness of a Cindy Sheehan...
I can only aspire to that level.
You, on the other hand, spin and
weasel like any other Neo-Con
faced with past mistakes.
__
Steve
"i recognize my limitations and
immediately own it (sic). " -- Nate
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> Stephen Cowell wrote:
> >
> > But do you *understand* it, Bill? BTW,
> > thanks for Iraq.
> You are like that Mother blaming her
> son's death on President Bush,
> you don't have a clue! What a loser!
I could *never* have the courage and
forthrightness of a Cindy Sheehan...
I can only aspire to that level.
You, on the other hand, spin and
weasel like any other Neo-Con
faced with past mistakes.
__
Steve
"i recognize my limitations and
immediately own it (sic). " -- Nate
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> Stephen Cowell wrote:
> >
> > But do you *understand* it, Bill? BTW,
> > thanks for Iraq.
> You are like that Mother blaming her
> son's death on President Bush,
> you don't have a clue! What a loser!
I could *never* have the courage and
forthrightness of a Cindy Sheehan...
I can only aspire to that level.
You, on the other hand, spin and
weasel like any other Neo-Con
faced with past mistakes.
__
Steve
"i recognize my limitations and
immediately own it (sic). " -- Nate
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
"Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
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> "Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:_YbMe.2977$Hn3.865@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net ...
> >Everyone listen! Cryogenic refrigeration is not
> >refrigeration! English language changed! Film
> >at 11!
>
> no ----. its what ive been telling you.
Film at 11!
> > They still won't save you... you're still hiding
> > behind them. The same thing will happen again,
> > and you *know* it.
> they werent intended to save me. they
> were intended to choke you and they
> did just that.
Hiding still.
> >> im not qualified to speak with authority
> >
> > OK, now we're starting to get somewhere!
>
> ..and neither are you.
OK... c'mon, just a little farther...
> > But it does not give you qualifications in
> > atmospheric science
>
> ditto.
You agree that you speak from no
authority on atmospheric science?
My job here is almost done!
> >> it is NOT what i asked you for!
> >
> > I don't give a damn what you asked for...
>
> TRANSLATION --> "youre right, nate"
I really don't. Choke on it.
> >> no. i discussed it to show the extent of your foolishness.
> >
> > Hook, line, and swivel!
>
> exactly. it was quite successful as you jumped right on and tried to LIE
> your way through.
I only see one person stonewalling
and lying here... and I ain't lookin'
at me.
> >> lol your example is totally foolish!
> >
> > Trust... we no longer trust you.
>
> TRANSLATION --> "youre right, nate."
See what I mean?
> >> lol no. it shows your _lack_ of knowledge. i gave you the FCC, and
> > clearly
> >> stated that the CC stood for "cycle controller". cryo uses no type of
> > cycle
> >> controller, _at all_. the process is completely different.
> >
> > As you can see, I didn't bite for your trick
> > question.
>
> LIAR! you couldnt find anything on it so you just never answered me.
As you (and everyone else) can see, I didn't
bite for your trick question. More TLA's?
Poop. Quit hiding, act like a man!
> > So? Is cryo now refrigeration?
>
> no. its cryogenic refrigeration. totally different process and
principle,
> totally different science.
So both don't involve cooling via the expansion/
evaporation of a working medium? What a maroon!
> >> > You complete IDIOT! The expansion valve
> >> > controls the condensor pressure by *releasing*
> >> > pressure at the *outlet*.
> >>
> >> you ------- fool. the expansion valve regulates EVAPORATOR pressure.
> >
> > And nothing happens *behind* it? Dumbass.
>
> NO. the condensor pressure is regulated only by the pressure of the
> compressor discharge.
Which goes up and down depending on the
position of the TEV. Not that I care... the thing
will work without regulation, as I stated before.
> >> and besides, even in high ambient you have to regulate the bypass or
the
> >> refrigerant will distribute equally causing low condensor pressures.
> >
> > No bypass.
>
> you fool, thats what the HMC does. you had better learn at least a little
> bit about what you speak of.
No bypass in the simplest HPC implementation.
> >> > You didn't say Uncle.
> >>
> >> TRANSLATION --> "i have no response"
> >
> > You still didn't say Uncle!
>
> and you still have no response.
And you still didn't say Uncle!
> > I said:
> > Doesn't there have to be a valve in the system?
> >
> > You said:
> > there is already a full valve system in place to do just that.
> >
> > You imply that all refrigerant systems have
> > this valve.
>
> you need to specify which valves you reference. there are all types of
> valves and all but sealed systems have them. what valve are you asking
> about fool?
Obviously I'm talking about a sealed system,
right? When I say that the entire system must
be evacuated in order to work on it, then that
certainly implies a sealed system!
> > So is there an FCC in cryo, or not?
>
> lol.....yeah, you know cryo. <rolling eyes> BUWAHAHA! :-)
More lies and --------...
> > 1.) I didn't ask about 'in a pinch'.
>
> LIAR! you asked about it only after your lies and -------- were exposed.
> it was a red herring, a desperate and pitiful attempt at save face on your
> part and i exposed you, liar.
We can all read... how many times must I say that?
The post I quoted, showing you lying, was my
first post in regard to your challenge to Jeff.
Merely reading it makes that obvious... why must
you lie so? Oh, that's right... congenital defect.
> > 2.) Cryo system has FCC..
>
> WRONG. i threw it at you to watch you choke, and then pointed it out that
> it had none to expose your -------- and you sunk like a rock. :-)
Does not change that fact that you lied.
You are not to be trusted.
> > 3.) Challenge has -30 ambient spec..
>
> my challenge to you clearly stated -30, liar. :-)
Again, all read here. No challenge in that post...
the -30 in parenthesis, with a 'such as' in front.
> > 4.) He told me first about optionality of HPC.
>
> liar. i told you what it was and you choked on it. :-)
Again a big lie... after you gave me the *brand name*
that 'HMC' stood for, I responded without googling
anything. At that time, I guessed that the 'headmaster'
was used to expand the operating temperature, like
the TEV is. Turns out that I was right on target...
after I googled and found HPC literature, my second
post (before your response!) mentioned the optionality.
> > 5.) Claimed I used valves for regulation..
>
> LIAR. you did. it was only after i pointed out how foolish your "tow
> valves and a pipe" are that you changed your story.
Again a big lie... I've pointed out that I was envisioning
a two-port system without bypass... the valves were
there to allow closing off the shunt for eventual replacement
of the HPC. Go back and read it all, if you dare.
> > 6.) Claimed 2 valves and piece of pipe could
> > sub for three-port device...
>
> LIAR. that was yours. i just think its so pitiful that its funny. lol
Go back and read your crap! It's all there!
> > 7.) Claimed 3-port device simplest HPC implementation...
>
> LIAR! show me boy.
I've already quoted it for all to see.
> > 8.) Claimed all refrigerant systems have retention valving...
>
> LIAR. show me where i stated such. i said all refrigeration systems with
> HPC's (we were discussion them at the time) had the valves they need to
pump
> themselves down into their own recievers. you liar.
You never gave such a modifier... you change
from one system to another at will. Not to
be trusted.
> > 9.) Claimed certification necessary to work on
> > cryo systems...
>
> show me otherwise, liar.
Peek at my resume, if you can get a copy!
> > 10.) Claimed I never had a job servicing cryo systems...
>
> lol...you didnt. :-)
Call up NRAO.... you can legally do that,
you know. Verify my dates of employment.
> > 11.) Claimed cryo not refrigeration..
>
> its not.
See? He's still claiming it!
> > 12.) Claimed helium supply and return not
> > 'working pressures'... lie.
>
> TRANSLATION --> "i dont know enough about cryo to have a clue about what
> youre asking for, nate" :-)
'Round about #12, I quit caring... you
are not to be trusted with anything.
> > What can tomorrow only
> > bring, but more lies?
>
> only if you responde with more lies, liar.
and now he's turning French! Watch that
twitch, Nate!
__
Steve
"i recognize my limitations and
immediately own it (sic). " -- Nate
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
"Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
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> "Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:_YbMe.2977$Hn3.865@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net ...
> >Everyone listen! Cryogenic refrigeration is not
> >refrigeration! English language changed! Film
> >at 11!
>
> no ----. its what ive been telling you.
Film at 11!
> > They still won't save you... you're still hiding
> > behind them. The same thing will happen again,
> > and you *know* it.
> they werent intended to save me. they
> were intended to choke you and they
> did just that.
Hiding still.
> >> im not qualified to speak with authority
> >
> > OK, now we're starting to get somewhere!
>
> ..and neither are you.
OK... c'mon, just a little farther...
> > But it does not give you qualifications in
> > atmospheric science
>
> ditto.
You agree that you speak from no
authority on atmospheric science?
My job here is almost done!
> >> it is NOT what i asked you for!
> >
> > I don't give a damn what you asked for...
>
> TRANSLATION --> "youre right, nate"
I really don't. Choke on it.
> >> no. i discussed it to show the extent of your foolishness.
> >
> > Hook, line, and swivel!
>
> exactly. it was quite successful as you jumped right on and tried to LIE
> your way through.
I only see one person stonewalling
and lying here... and I ain't lookin'
at me.
> >> lol your example is totally foolish!
> >
> > Trust... we no longer trust you.
>
> TRANSLATION --> "youre right, nate."
See what I mean?
> >> lol no. it shows your _lack_ of knowledge. i gave you the FCC, and
> > clearly
> >> stated that the CC stood for "cycle controller". cryo uses no type of
> > cycle
> >> controller, _at all_. the process is completely different.
> >
> > As you can see, I didn't bite for your trick
> > question.
>
> LIAR! you couldnt find anything on it so you just never answered me.
As you (and everyone else) can see, I didn't
bite for your trick question. More TLA's?
Poop. Quit hiding, act like a man!
> > So? Is cryo now refrigeration?
>
> no. its cryogenic refrigeration. totally different process and
principle,
> totally different science.
So both don't involve cooling via the expansion/
evaporation of a working medium? What a maroon!
> >> > You complete IDIOT! The expansion valve
> >> > controls the condensor pressure by *releasing*
> >> > pressure at the *outlet*.
> >>
> >> you ------- fool. the expansion valve regulates EVAPORATOR pressure.
> >
> > And nothing happens *behind* it? Dumbass.
>
> NO. the condensor pressure is regulated only by the pressure of the
> compressor discharge.
Which goes up and down depending on the
position of the TEV. Not that I care... the thing
will work without regulation, as I stated before.
> >> and besides, even in high ambient you have to regulate the bypass or
the
> >> refrigerant will distribute equally causing low condensor pressures.
> >
> > No bypass.
>
> you fool, thats what the HMC does. you had better learn at least a little
> bit about what you speak of.
No bypass in the simplest HPC implementation.
> >> > You didn't say Uncle.
> >>
> >> TRANSLATION --> "i have no response"
> >
> > You still didn't say Uncle!
>
> and you still have no response.
And you still didn't say Uncle!
> > I said:
> > Doesn't there have to be a valve in the system?
> >
> > You said:
> > there is already a full valve system in place to do just that.
> >
> > You imply that all refrigerant systems have
> > this valve.
>
> you need to specify which valves you reference. there are all types of
> valves and all but sealed systems have them. what valve are you asking
> about fool?
Obviously I'm talking about a sealed system,
right? When I say that the entire system must
be evacuated in order to work on it, then that
certainly implies a sealed system!
> > So is there an FCC in cryo, or not?
>
> lol.....yeah, you know cryo. <rolling eyes> BUWAHAHA! :-)
More lies and --------...
> > 1.) I didn't ask about 'in a pinch'.
>
> LIAR! you asked about it only after your lies and -------- were exposed.
> it was a red herring, a desperate and pitiful attempt at save face on your
> part and i exposed you, liar.
We can all read... how many times must I say that?
The post I quoted, showing you lying, was my
first post in regard to your challenge to Jeff.
Merely reading it makes that obvious... why must
you lie so? Oh, that's right... congenital defect.
> > 2.) Cryo system has FCC..
>
> WRONG. i threw it at you to watch you choke, and then pointed it out that
> it had none to expose your -------- and you sunk like a rock. :-)
Does not change that fact that you lied.
You are not to be trusted.
> > 3.) Challenge has -30 ambient spec..
>
> my challenge to you clearly stated -30, liar. :-)
Again, all read here. No challenge in that post...
the -30 in parenthesis, with a 'such as' in front.
> > 4.) He told me first about optionality of HPC.
>
> liar. i told you what it was and you choked on it. :-)
Again a big lie... after you gave me the *brand name*
that 'HMC' stood for, I responded without googling
anything. At that time, I guessed that the 'headmaster'
was used to expand the operating temperature, like
the TEV is. Turns out that I was right on target...
after I googled and found HPC literature, my second
post (before your response!) mentioned the optionality.
> > 5.) Claimed I used valves for regulation..
>
> LIAR. you did. it was only after i pointed out how foolish your "tow
> valves and a pipe" are that you changed your story.
Again a big lie... I've pointed out that I was envisioning
a two-port system without bypass... the valves were
there to allow closing off the shunt for eventual replacement
of the HPC. Go back and read it all, if you dare.
> > 6.) Claimed 2 valves and piece of pipe could
> > sub for three-port device...
>
> LIAR. that was yours. i just think its so pitiful that its funny. lol
Go back and read your crap! It's all there!
> > 7.) Claimed 3-port device simplest HPC implementation...
>
> LIAR! show me boy.
I've already quoted it for all to see.
> > 8.) Claimed all refrigerant systems have retention valving...
>
> LIAR. show me where i stated such. i said all refrigeration systems with
> HPC's (we were discussion them at the time) had the valves they need to
pump
> themselves down into their own recievers. you liar.
You never gave such a modifier... you change
from one system to another at will. Not to
be trusted.
> > 9.) Claimed certification necessary to work on
> > cryo systems...
>
> show me otherwise, liar.
Peek at my resume, if you can get a copy!
> > 10.) Claimed I never had a job servicing cryo systems...
>
> lol...you didnt. :-)
Call up NRAO.... you can legally do that,
you know. Verify my dates of employment.
> > 11.) Claimed cryo not refrigeration..
>
> its not.
See? He's still claiming it!
> > 12.) Claimed helium supply and return not
> > 'working pressures'... lie.
>
> TRANSLATION --> "i dont know enough about cryo to have a clue about what
> youre asking for, nate" :-)
'Round about #12, I quit caring... you
are not to be trusted with anything.
> > What can tomorrow only
> > bring, but more lies?
>
> only if you responde with more lies, liar.
and now he's turning French! Watch that
twitch, Nate!
__
Steve
"i recognize my limitations and
immediately own it (sic). " -- Nate
#4408
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
"Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
news:11g32sic4bp10e2@corp.supernews.com...
> "Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:_YbMe.2977$Hn3.865@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net ...
> >Everyone listen! Cryogenic refrigeration is not
> >refrigeration! English language changed! Film
> >at 11!
>
> no ----. its what ive been telling you.
Film at 11!
> > They still won't save you... you're still hiding
> > behind them. The same thing will happen again,
> > and you *know* it.
> they werent intended to save me. they
> were intended to choke you and they
> did just that.
Hiding still.
> >> im not qualified to speak with authority
> >
> > OK, now we're starting to get somewhere!
>
> ..and neither are you.
OK... c'mon, just a little farther...
> > But it does not give you qualifications in
> > atmospheric science
>
> ditto.
You agree that you speak from no
authority on atmospheric science?
My job here is almost done!
> >> it is NOT what i asked you for!
> >
> > I don't give a damn what you asked for...
>
> TRANSLATION --> "youre right, nate"
I really don't. Choke on it.
> >> no. i discussed it to show the extent of your foolishness.
> >
> > Hook, line, and swivel!
>
> exactly. it was quite successful as you jumped right on and tried to LIE
> your way through.
I only see one person stonewalling
and lying here... and I ain't lookin'
at me.
> >> lol your example is totally foolish!
> >
> > Trust... we no longer trust you.
>
> TRANSLATION --> "youre right, nate."
See what I mean?
> >> lol no. it shows your _lack_ of knowledge. i gave you the FCC, and
> > clearly
> >> stated that the CC stood for "cycle controller". cryo uses no type of
> > cycle
> >> controller, _at all_. the process is completely different.
> >
> > As you can see, I didn't bite for your trick
> > question.
>
> LIAR! you couldnt find anything on it so you just never answered me.
As you (and everyone else) can see, I didn't
bite for your trick question. More TLA's?
Poop. Quit hiding, act like a man!
> > So? Is cryo now refrigeration?
>
> no. its cryogenic refrigeration. totally different process and
principle,
> totally different science.
So both don't involve cooling via the expansion/
evaporation of a working medium? What a maroon!
> >> > You complete IDIOT! The expansion valve
> >> > controls the condensor pressure by *releasing*
> >> > pressure at the *outlet*.
> >>
> >> you ------- fool. the expansion valve regulates EVAPORATOR pressure.
> >
> > And nothing happens *behind* it? Dumbass.
>
> NO. the condensor pressure is regulated only by the pressure of the
> compressor discharge.
Which goes up and down depending on the
position of the TEV. Not that I care... the thing
will work without regulation, as I stated before.
> >> and besides, even in high ambient you have to regulate the bypass or
the
> >> refrigerant will distribute equally causing low condensor pressures.
> >
> > No bypass.
>
> you fool, thats what the HMC does. you had better learn at least a little
> bit about what you speak of.
No bypass in the simplest HPC implementation.
> >> > You didn't say Uncle.
> >>
> >> TRANSLATION --> "i have no response"
> >
> > You still didn't say Uncle!
>
> and you still have no response.
And you still didn't say Uncle!
> > I said:
> > Doesn't there have to be a valve in the system?
> >
> > You said:
> > there is already a full valve system in place to do just that.
> >
> > You imply that all refrigerant systems have
> > this valve.
>
> you need to specify which valves you reference. there are all types of
> valves and all but sealed systems have them. what valve are you asking
> about fool?
Obviously I'm talking about a sealed system,
right? When I say that the entire system must
be evacuated in order to work on it, then that
certainly implies a sealed system!
> > So is there an FCC in cryo, or not?
>
> lol.....yeah, you know cryo. <rolling eyes> BUWAHAHA! :-)
More lies and --------...
> > 1.) I didn't ask about 'in a pinch'.
>
> LIAR! you asked about it only after your lies and -------- were exposed.
> it was a red herring, a desperate and pitiful attempt at save face on your
> part and i exposed you, liar.
We can all read... how many times must I say that?
The post I quoted, showing you lying, was my
first post in regard to your challenge to Jeff.
Merely reading it makes that obvious... why must
you lie so? Oh, that's right... congenital defect.
> > 2.) Cryo system has FCC..
>
> WRONG. i threw it at you to watch you choke, and then pointed it out that
> it had none to expose your -------- and you sunk like a rock. :-)
Does not change that fact that you lied.
You are not to be trusted.
> > 3.) Challenge has -30 ambient spec..
>
> my challenge to you clearly stated -30, liar. :-)
Again, all read here. No challenge in that post...
the -30 in parenthesis, with a 'such as' in front.
> > 4.) He told me first about optionality of HPC.
>
> liar. i told you what it was and you choked on it. :-)
Again a big lie... after you gave me the *brand name*
that 'HMC' stood for, I responded without googling
anything. At that time, I guessed that the 'headmaster'
was used to expand the operating temperature, like
the TEV is. Turns out that I was right on target...
after I googled and found HPC literature, my second
post (before your response!) mentioned the optionality.
> > 5.) Claimed I used valves for regulation..
>
> LIAR. you did. it was only after i pointed out how foolish your "tow
> valves and a pipe" are that you changed your story.
Again a big lie... I've pointed out that I was envisioning
a two-port system without bypass... the valves were
there to allow closing off the shunt for eventual replacement
of the HPC. Go back and read it all, if you dare.
> > 6.) Claimed 2 valves and piece of pipe could
> > sub for three-port device...
>
> LIAR. that was yours. i just think its so pitiful that its funny. lol
Go back and read your crap! It's all there!
> > 7.) Claimed 3-port device simplest HPC implementation...
>
> LIAR! show me boy.
I've already quoted it for all to see.
> > 8.) Claimed all refrigerant systems have retention valving...
>
> LIAR. show me where i stated such. i said all refrigeration systems with
> HPC's (we were discussion them at the time) had the valves they need to
pump
> themselves down into their own recievers. you liar.
You never gave such a modifier... you change
from one system to another at will. Not to
be trusted.
> > 9.) Claimed certification necessary to work on
> > cryo systems...
>
> show me otherwise, liar.
Peek at my resume, if you can get a copy!
> > 10.) Claimed I never had a job servicing cryo systems...
>
> lol...you didnt. :-)
Call up NRAO.... you can legally do that,
you know. Verify my dates of employment.
> > 11.) Claimed cryo not refrigeration..
>
> its not.
See? He's still claiming it!
> > 12.) Claimed helium supply and return not
> > 'working pressures'... lie.
>
> TRANSLATION --> "i dont know enough about cryo to have a clue about what
> youre asking for, nate" :-)
'Round about #12, I quit caring... you
are not to be trusted with anything.
> > What can tomorrow only
> > bring, but more lies?
>
> only if you responde with more lies, liar.
and now he's turning French! Watch that
twitch, Nate!
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"i recognize my limitations and
immediately own it (sic). " -- Nate
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
"Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
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> "Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:_YbMe.2977$Hn3.865@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net ...
> >Everyone listen! Cryogenic refrigeration is not
> >refrigeration! English language changed! Film
> >at 11!
>
> no ----. its what ive been telling you.
Film at 11!
> > They still won't save you... you're still hiding
> > behind them. The same thing will happen again,
> > and you *know* it.
> they werent intended to save me. they
> were intended to choke you and they
> did just that.
Hiding still.
> >> im not qualified to speak with authority
> >
> > OK, now we're starting to get somewhere!
>
> ..and neither are you.
OK... c'mon, just a little farther...
> > But it does not give you qualifications in
> > atmospheric science
>
> ditto.
You agree that you speak from no
authority on atmospheric science?
My job here is almost done!
> >> it is NOT what i asked you for!
> >
> > I don't give a damn what you asked for...
>
> TRANSLATION --> "youre right, nate"
I really don't. Choke on it.
> >> no. i discussed it to show the extent of your foolishness.
> >
> > Hook, line, and swivel!
>
> exactly. it was quite successful as you jumped right on and tried to LIE
> your way through.
I only see one person stonewalling
and lying here... and I ain't lookin'
at me.
> >> lol your example is totally foolish!
> >
> > Trust... we no longer trust you.
>
> TRANSLATION --> "youre right, nate."
See what I mean?
> >> lol no. it shows your _lack_ of knowledge. i gave you the FCC, and
> > clearly
> >> stated that the CC stood for "cycle controller". cryo uses no type of
> > cycle
> >> controller, _at all_. the process is completely different.
> >
> > As you can see, I didn't bite for your trick
> > question.
>
> LIAR! you couldnt find anything on it so you just never answered me.
As you (and everyone else) can see, I didn't
bite for your trick question. More TLA's?
Poop. Quit hiding, act like a man!
> > So? Is cryo now refrigeration?
>
> no. its cryogenic refrigeration. totally different process and
principle,
> totally different science.
So both don't involve cooling via the expansion/
evaporation of a working medium? What a maroon!
> >> > You complete IDIOT! The expansion valve
> >> > controls the condensor pressure by *releasing*
> >> > pressure at the *outlet*.
> >>
> >> you ------- fool. the expansion valve regulates EVAPORATOR pressure.
> >
> > And nothing happens *behind* it? Dumbass.
>
> NO. the condensor pressure is regulated only by the pressure of the
> compressor discharge.
Which goes up and down depending on the
position of the TEV. Not that I care... the thing
will work without regulation, as I stated before.
> >> and besides, even in high ambient you have to regulate the bypass or
the
> >> refrigerant will distribute equally causing low condensor pressures.
> >
> > No bypass.
>
> you fool, thats what the HMC does. you had better learn at least a little
> bit about what you speak of.
No bypass in the simplest HPC implementation.
> >> > You didn't say Uncle.
> >>
> >> TRANSLATION --> "i have no response"
> >
> > You still didn't say Uncle!
>
> and you still have no response.
And you still didn't say Uncle!
> > I said:
> > Doesn't there have to be a valve in the system?
> >
> > You said:
> > there is already a full valve system in place to do just that.
> >
> > You imply that all refrigerant systems have
> > this valve.
>
> you need to specify which valves you reference. there are all types of
> valves and all but sealed systems have them. what valve are you asking
> about fool?
Obviously I'm talking about a sealed system,
right? When I say that the entire system must
be evacuated in order to work on it, then that
certainly implies a sealed system!
> > So is there an FCC in cryo, or not?
>
> lol.....yeah, you know cryo. <rolling eyes> BUWAHAHA! :-)
More lies and --------...
> > 1.) I didn't ask about 'in a pinch'.
>
> LIAR! you asked about it only after your lies and -------- were exposed.
> it was a red herring, a desperate and pitiful attempt at save face on your
> part and i exposed you, liar.
We can all read... how many times must I say that?
The post I quoted, showing you lying, was my
first post in regard to your challenge to Jeff.
Merely reading it makes that obvious... why must
you lie so? Oh, that's right... congenital defect.
> > 2.) Cryo system has FCC..
>
> WRONG. i threw it at you to watch you choke, and then pointed it out that
> it had none to expose your -------- and you sunk like a rock. :-)
Does not change that fact that you lied.
You are not to be trusted.
> > 3.) Challenge has -30 ambient spec..
>
> my challenge to you clearly stated -30, liar. :-)
Again, all read here. No challenge in that post...
the -30 in parenthesis, with a 'such as' in front.
> > 4.) He told me first about optionality of HPC.
>
> liar. i told you what it was and you choked on it. :-)
Again a big lie... after you gave me the *brand name*
that 'HMC' stood for, I responded without googling
anything. At that time, I guessed that the 'headmaster'
was used to expand the operating temperature, like
the TEV is. Turns out that I was right on target...
after I googled and found HPC literature, my second
post (before your response!) mentioned the optionality.
> > 5.) Claimed I used valves for regulation..
>
> LIAR. you did. it was only after i pointed out how foolish your "tow
> valves and a pipe" are that you changed your story.
Again a big lie... I've pointed out that I was envisioning
a two-port system without bypass... the valves were
there to allow closing off the shunt for eventual replacement
of the HPC. Go back and read it all, if you dare.
> > 6.) Claimed 2 valves and piece of pipe could
> > sub for three-port device...
>
> LIAR. that was yours. i just think its so pitiful that its funny. lol
Go back and read your crap! It's all there!
> > 7.) Claimed 3-port device simplest HPC implementation...
>
> LIAR! show me boy.
I've already quoted it for all to see.
> > 8.) Claimed all refrigerant systems have retention valving...
>
> LIAR. show me where i stated such. i said all refrigeration systems with
> HPC's (we were discussion them at the time) had the valves they need to
pump
> themselves down into their own recievers. you liar.
You never gave such a modifier... you change
from one system to another at will. Not to
be trusted.
> > 9.) Claimed certification necessary to work on
> > cryo systems...
>
> show me otherwise, liar.
Peek at my resume, if you can get a copy!
> > 10.) Claimed I never had a job servicing cryo systems...
>
> lol...you didnt. :-)
Call up NRAO.... you can legally do that,
you know. Verify my dates of employment.
> > 11.) Claimed cryo not refrigeration..
>
> its not.
See? He's still claiming it!
> > 12.) Claimed helium supply and return not
> > 'working pressures'... lie.
>
> TRANSLATION --> "i dont know enough about cryo to have a clue about what
> youre asking for, nate" :-)
'Round about #12, I quit caring... you
are not to be trusted with anything.
> > What can tomorrow only
> > bring, but more lies?
>
> only if you responde with more lies, liar.
and now he's turning French! Watch that
twitch, Nate!
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Steve
"i recognize my limitations and
immediately own it (sic). " -- Nate
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
"Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
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> "Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:qmdMe.1612$r54.411@newssvr19.news.prodigy.com ...
> >> those were YOUR words, liar.
> >
> > But you had to lie again, and say:
> > <>
> > ALL you said was:
> >
> > "> What is that, High Mobility Coupling?"
> > </>
> >
> > Patently a lie, since I showed the original
> > post:
> > <>
> > What is that, High Mobility Coupling? Like a big double-thick
> > steel-braided hose? We had two of those on the radiotelescope
> > dish (they always come in pairs in your line of business!).
> > Do you mean the coupling is in a pinch, or that you're in
> > a pinch to replace it?
> > </>
> >
> > You lie, like a dog.
>
> sorry liar. all i did was quote your lies. if they hurt, to bad.
?? Are you congenitally deficient? Read the above
again!
> > > > And of course, I posted this way back
> >> > on July 5:
> >>
> >> irrelevant.
> >
> >Not irrelevant when it shows you *LYING*.
> >You *LIED*. You're a proven *LIAR*.
>
> you pathetic little liar.
At this point, it doesn't matter if I choked
or not... you're obviously lying, as all
can see.
> > And I speak the truth, and know
> > of which I speak... in contrast to you.
>
> LOL! on which count? your two valves and a pipe? on the expansion valve
> controlling condensor pressure? BUWHAHAHA! :-)
We don't trust you anymore... simple
as that.
> > Another lie! You said the two valves were
> > for regulating the flow and the bypass!
>
> LIAR! those were YOUR valves liar. youre the STUPID ---- that was going
to
> stand on the roof 24/7 regulating the pressures. :-)
Temper, Nate! You're the one regulating the
two valves, one in, and one out, of a straight
piece of pipe... for whatever reason.
> > Nope... you can't connect two valves
> > and a pipe, and end up with a Y
> > arrangement
>
> it was YOUR stupid arrangement liar. all i did was tell you how foolish
it
> was. "two valves and a pipe" BUWAHAHA!
And there you are, up on the roof,
twisting the valves.
> > Doesn't matter... you have no credibility.
>
> lol....ok, so the expansion valve doesnt regulate the evap pressure just
> because i said so? lol.....what a stupid liar.
Get your -------- straight... condenser or
evaporator? We can *all* see that the
TEV regulates the evap pressure... or
are you lying just for the sake of it?
Sometimes (mostly!) I wonder... and
it really doesn't matter, you don't have
to regulate the condenser pressure if
you put up with less ambient swings.
__
Steve
"i recognize my limitations and
immediately own it (sic). " -- Nate
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