The M-W.com definition you clipped gives two definitions for
condensation The first is for processes like making condensed soup. The
second is for what we classicly think of as condensation, that is the
phase change of matter from one state to another, e.g. steam to water.
Again, refering back to the original question, this yet another
description of what has happened. You keep addressing the what, and not
the why. Care to try your hand and Google up why it happens?

BTW, if you want to quibble a fine point, the mass that results from
mixing water and alcohol is less than the sum of the masses since the
reaction is exothermic and everyone knows that E-MC^2 ;-)

--
jeff


L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Jeff????????????
> Again the smaller volume was formed by density as this site calls
> it, as when condensation forms a drop of water from hydrogen and oxygen:
> http://www.nima.co.uk/basics/basics1.htm "density ~1000 times that of
> the gas phase."
> Can you find the word "denser" in the deification of "condensation"
> used commonly to describe a mixing change, usually via temperature
> change.
> Pronunciation: "kän-"den-'sA-sh&n, -d&n-
> Function: noun
> 1 : the act or process of condensing : as a : a chemical
> reaction involving union between molecules often with
> elimination of a simple molecule (as water) to form a new
> more complex compound of often greater molecular weight b :
> the conversion of a substance (as water) from the vapor state
> to a denser liquid or solid state usually initiated by a reduction
> in temperature of the vapor c : compression of a written or
> spoken work into more concise form
> Maybe, this is some Freudian thing you have with the word dense?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O

 

"Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message news:11d9832q14jrlc8@corp.supernews.com...
> "Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:1M%Ae.808$Bo3.438@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com. ..
> > Heavier than the components summed individually?
>
> no, but as hard as you try to spin i just wont let you. the individual
> weights dont matter until the compound is broken down. refrigerant is
> heavier than cholorine which is heavier than air making it even harder for
> refrigerant to reach the ozone than chlorine (although it would be dissolved
> by the sunlight much in the same way you have to keep adding chlorine to a
> pool).

The hard truth is, CFCs have been found in the
stratosphere. The math has been done. The
graphs are there... going up, then slowing after
CFC use was discontinued. You can fish
red herrings all day, as long as you want...
but the evidence is there.

http://www.ozonelayer.noaa.gov/science/o3depletion.htm

Now, certainly with Repubs in power, this kind of
misinformation couldn't exist, were you right!

> > 2 is not heavier than 1+1... that's the point.
>
> TRANSLATION --> "im wrong so ill spin a herring"

Lame.


> > the combined components are not heavier
> > than the original components.
>
> the combined components are heavier than the individual components
> individually thus making it even harder for refrigerant to reach the ozone
> layer. a layer of refrigerant would settle below layers of the individual
> elements that make it up.

Why doesn't this happen to the atmosphere in general?
Why are we not drowning in Argon? Because there's
only 1% Argon? That's enough to kill us all! How
many percent Freon is there in the atmosphere?
Why does Argon mix and Freon not?
__
Steve
..

 

"Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message news:11d9832q14jrlc8@corp.supernews.com...
> "Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:1M%Ae.808$Bo3.438@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com. ..
> > Heavier than the components summed individually?
>
> no, but as hard as you try to spin i just wont let you. the individual
> weights dont matter until the compound is broken down. refrigerant is
> heavier than cholorine which is heavier than air making it even harder for
> refrigerant to reach the ozone than chlorine (although it would be dissolved
> by the sunlight much in the same way you have to keep adding chlorine to a
> pool).

The hard truth is, CFCs have been found in the
stratosphere. The math has been done. The
graphs are there... going up, then slowing after
CFC use was discontinued. You can fish
red herrings all day, as long as you want...
but the evidence is there.

http://www.ozonelayer.noaa.gov/science/o3depletion.htm

Now, certainly with Repubs in power, this kind of
misinformation couldn't exist, were you right!

> > 2 is not heavier than 1+1... that's the point.
>
> TRANSLATION --> "im wrong so ill spin a herring"

Lame.


> > the combined components are not heavier
> > than the original components.
>
> the combined components are heavier than the individual components
> individually thus making it even harder for refrigerant to reach the ozone
> layer. a layer of refrigerant would settle below layers of the individual
> elements that make it up.

Why doesn't this happen to the atmosphere in general?
Why are we not drowning in Argon? Because there's
only 1% Argon? That's enough to kill us all! How
many percent Freon is there in the atmosphere?
Why does Argon mix and Freon not?
__
Steve
..

 

"Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message news:11d9832q14jrlc8@corp.supernews.com...
> "Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:1M%Ae.808$Bo3.438@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com. ..
> > Heavier than the components summed individually?
>
> no, but as hard as you try to spin i just wont let you. the individual
> weights dont matter until the compound is broken down. refrigerant is
> heavier than cholorine which is heavier than air making it even harder for
> refrigerant to reach the ozone than chlorine (although it would be dissolved
> by the sunlight much in the same way you have to keep adding chlorine to a
> pool).

The hard truth is, CFCs have been found in the
stratosphere. The math has been done. The
graphs are there... going up, then slowing after
CFC use was discontinued. You can fish
red herrings all day, as long as you want...
but the evidence is there.

http://www.ozonelayer.noaa.gov/science/o3depletion.htm

Now, certainly with Repubs in power, this kind of
misinformation couldn't exist, were you right!

> > 2 is not heavier than 1+1... that's the point.
>
> TRANSLATION --> "im wrong so ill spin a herring"

Lame.


> > the combined components are not heavier
> > than the original components.
>
> the combined components are heavier than the individual components
> individually thus making it even harder for refrigerant to reach the ozone
> layer. a layer of refrigerant would settle below layers of the individual
> elements that make it up.

Why doesn't this happen to the atmosphere in general?
Why are we not drowning in Argon? Because there's
only 1% Argon? That's enough to kill us all! How
many percent Freon is there in the atmosphere?
Why does Argon mix and Freon not?
__
Steve
..

 

"Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message news:11d9832q14jrlc8@corp.supernews.com...
> "Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:1M%Ae.808$Bo3.438@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com. ..
> > Heavier than the components summed individually?
>
> no, but as hard as you try to spin i just wont let you. the individual
> weights dont matter until the compound is broken down. refrigerant is
> heavier than cholorine which is heavier than air making it even harder for
> refrigerant to reach the ozone than chlorine (although it would be dissolved
> by the sunlight much in the same way you have to keep adding chlorine to a
> pool).

The hard truth is, CFCs have been found in the
stratosphere. The math has been done. The
graphs are there... going up, then slowing after
CFC use was discontinued. You can fish
red herrings all day, as long as you want...
but the evidence is there.

http://www.ozonelayer.noaa.gov/science/o3depletion.htm

Now, certainly with Repubs in power, this kind of
misinformation couldn't exist, were you right!

> > 2 is not heavier than 1+1... that's the point.
>
> TRANSLATION --> "im wrong so ill spin a herring"

Lame.


> > the combined components are not heavier
> > than the original components.
>
> the combined components are heavier than the individual components
> individually thus making it even harder for refrigerant to reach the ozone
> layer. a layer of refrigerant would settle below layers of the individual
> elements that make it up.

Why doesn't this happen to the atmosphere in general?
Why are we not drowning in Argon? Because there's
only 1% Argon? That's enough to kill us all! How
many percent Freon is there in the atmosphere?
Why does Argon mix and Freon not?
__
Steve
..

 

"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message news:PbudnTyfgr-Qn0jfRVn-hA@comcast.com...
>
> "Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:1M%Ae.808$Bo3.438@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com. ..
>
>
> 2 is not heavier than 1+1... that's the point.
>
> Never claimed it to be, I asked my question using a "per unit volume" frame
> of reference. The correct answer to my question is "not always."

Here's what you wrote:
> Nathan, quick question...if you mix two compounds, the sum of the two
> compounds by definition would be heavier

The mix of the two components would *not* be
heavier than the individual components weights
summed.
__
Steve
..

 

"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message news:PbudnTyfgr-Qn0jfRVn-hA@comcast.com...
>
> "Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:1M%Ae.808$Bo3.438@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com. ..
>
>
> 2 is not heavier than 1+1... that's the point.
>
> Never claimed it to be, I asked my question using a "per unit volume" frame
> of reference. The correct answer to my question is "not always."

Here's what you wrote:
> Nathan, quick question...if you mix two compounds, the sum of the two
> compounds by definition would be heavier

The mix of the two components would *not* be
heavier than the individual components weights
summed.
__
Steve
..

 

"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message news:PbudnTyfgr-Qn0jfRVn-hA@comcast.com...
>
> "Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:1M%Ae.808$Bo3.438@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com. ..
>
>
> 2 is not heavier than 1+1... that's the point.
>
> Never claimed it to be, I asked my question using a "per unit volume" frame
> of reference. The correct answer to my question is "not always."

Here's what you wrote:
> Nathan, quick question...if you mix two compounds, the sum of the two
> compounds by definition would be heavier

The mix of the two components would *not* be
heavier than the individual components weights
summed.
__
Steve
..

 

"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message news:PbudnTyfgr-Qn0jfRVn-hA@comcast.com...
>
> "Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:1M%Ae.808$Bo3.438@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com. ..
>
>
> 2 is not heavier than 1+1... that's the point.
>
> Never claimed it to be, I asked my question using a "per unit volume" frame
> of reference. The correct answer to my question is "not always."

Here's what you wrote:
> Nathan, quick question...if you mix two compounds, the sum of the two
> compounds by definition would be heavier

The mix of the two components would *not* be
heavier than the individual components weights
summed.
__
Steve
..

 

"Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message news:11d9870majfk20d@corp.supernews.com...
> "Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:NN%Ae.809$Bo3.184@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com. ..
> >> TRANSLATION --> "youre right"
>
> >No really... too funny!
>
> TRANSLATION --> "youre still right"

Of course I'm right... Freon is not
a mixture.
__
Steve
..