"Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
news:11a96draii3te4@corp.supernews.com...
> "Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:GOYoe.314$%j7.179@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com. ..
> > Can't argue with a Luddite... do you believe we
> > went to the Moon? Trust NASA? BTW, you've
> > used the 'L' word... now can I equate you with
> > Tim McVey? What branch of militia do *you*
> > belong to?
>
> lol let me get this straight. because i require _proof_ you equate me
with
> tim mcveigh? how assinine. you cant make your argument so you try to
cloud
> the discussion with ridiculous statements....another typical seminar
liberal
> tactic that failed miserably.

No, because you started the name-calling, I can
call you whatever I want. I chose to tar you with
the extreme right... completely apropos for what
you chose to tar me with. "Go negative early...
never give up"... I think I'll adopt Newt's credo
AFA you're concerned...

Notice you didn't deny belonging to a militia... what
about our trips to the Moon? Dodging the question,
F-.

You admitted you can't give me a link to back up
your assertion that chlorine can't make it to the
stratosphere... here's a link, by an HVAC industry
periodical:

http://www.hpac.com/member/archive/0108data.htm

Realize that there are literally tens of thousands
more of these links... show me *one* for your
side.

> > Science always leaves room for doubt... that's
> > the nature of science.
>
> WRONG. you have fact and then you have agenda driven blind speculation.
> "room for doubt" just goes to show that youre presenting opinion as fact,
> another typical seminar liberal tactic.

Still on with the 'L' word? I'll give you two back... Jeff
Gannon, your buddy. (that was four, you got a bonus!)

Science, by definition, is self-modifying. You want
surety, go to church. Science is all about probabilities.

Do you assert that Science doesn't leave room
for doubt? That's the problem here... you don't
have the first clue how Science is done. You
can say something is a scientific 'fact'... but
it can be proven wrong the next day. Science
is done on a preponderance of evidence...
but at *no* time can a completely sure conclusion
be drawn. Mathematics is the only science that
can approach this level of certainty... and Gödel
showed that it cannot remain both complete and
consistant. Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle
removed certainty from Physics. All other
sciences are based on these two.

Any time Science doesn't leave 'room for doubt',
it ceases to be Science, and becomes Faith.
You can have your Faith... just don't call it
Science.
__
Steve
..

 

"Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:iC6pe.481$%j7.320@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com. ..
> No, because you started the name-calling

horseshit. are you suggesting that you arent a liberal? c'mon tell the
truth.....you voted for kerry, and gore before him. :-)

> I chose to tar you with
> the extreme right.

once again i call horseshit. you compared me with tim mcveigh who was a
domestic ---------, and not a right wing conservative. on second thought, i
know you liberals look at _all_ right wing conservatives in the same manner
as we would look at tim mcveigh. your comparison is truly amongst the most
assinine statements ive ever read in any newsgroup. a new low that screams
of your own ignorance and agenda.


> Notice you didn't deny belonging to a militia

simply not worthy of response as i have no intention of lowering myself to
your red hearrings and desperate attempt at getting off the subject that all
ive asked for is conclusive evidence. all you can provide is "could be's".



> You admitted you can't give me a link to back up
> your assertion that chlorine can't make it to the
> stratosphere.

horseshit. i conceeded that i have no proof of duponts patent running out.
my assertion of chlorine is a simple matter of atomic weight that anyone can
look up.
from http://www.chem.qmw.ac.uk/iupac/AtWt/ the atomic weight of oxygen is
15.9994. the atomic weight of carbon is 12.0107. the atomic weight of
chlorine is 35.453 or OVER TWICE that of oxygen. heavier gasses do not
float above lighter gases.


> Science, by definition, is self-modifying.

make all the excuses you care to, you can NOT show me one single bit of
CONCLUSIVE evidence to back up your liberal whinings because it simply does
not exist.

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com

 

"Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:iC6pe.481$%j7.320@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com. ..
> No, because you started the name-calling

horseshit. are you suggesting that you arent a liberal? c'mon tell the
truth.....you voted for kerry, and gore before him. :-)

> I chose to tar you with
> the extreme right.

once again i call horseshit. you compared me with tim mcveigh who was a
domestic ---------, and not a right wing conservative. on second thought, i
know you liberals look at _all_ right wing conservatives in the same manner
as we would look at tim mcveigh. your comparison is truly amongst the most
assinine statements ive ever read in any newsgroup. a new low that screams
of your own ignorance and agenda.


> Notice you didn't deny belonging to a militia

simply not worthy of response as i have no intention of lowering myself to
your red hearrings and desperate attempt at getting off the subject that all
ive asked for is conclusive evidence. all you can provide is "could be's".



> You admitted you can't give me a link to back up
> your assertion that chlorine can't make it to the
> stratosphere.

horseshit. i conceeded that i have no proof of duponts patent running out.
my assertion of chlorine is a simple matter of atomic weight that anyone can
look up.
from http://www.chem.qmw.ac.uk/iupac/AtWt/ the atomic weight of oxygen is
15.9994. the atomic weight of carbon is 12.0107. the atomic weight of
chlorine is 35.453 or OVER TWICE that of oxygen. heavier gasses do not
float above lighter gases.


> Science, by definition, is self-modifying.

make all the excuses you care to, you can NOT show me one single bit of
CONCLUSIVE evidence to back up your liberal whinings because it simply does
not exist.

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com

 

"Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:iC6pe.481$%j7.320@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com. ..
> No, because you started the name-calling

horseshit. are you suggesting that you arent a liberal? c'mon tell the
truth.....you voted for kerry, and gore before him. :-)

> I chose to tar you with
> the extreme right.

once again i call horseshit. you compared me with tim mcveigh who was a
domestic ---------, and not a right wing conservative. on second thought, i
know you liberals look at _all_ right wing conservatives in the same manner
as we would look at tim mcveigh. your comparison is truly amongst the most
assinine statements ive ever read in any newsgroup. a new low that screams
of your own ignorance and agenda.


> Notice you didn't deny belonging to a militia

simply not worthy of response as i have no intention of lowering myself to
your red hearrings and desperate attempt at getting off the subject that all
ive asked for is conclusive evidence. all you can provide is "could be's".



> You admitted you can't give me a link to back up
> your assertion that chlorine can't make it to the
> stratosphere.

horseshit. i conceeded that i have no proof of duponts patent running out.
my assertion of chlorine is a simple matter of atomic weight that anyone can
look up.
from http://www.chem.qmw.ac.uk/iupac/AtWt/ the atomic weight of oxygen is
15.9994. the atomic weight of carbon is 12.0107. the atomic weight of
chlorine is 35.453 or OVER TWICE that of oxygen. heavier gasses do not
float above lighter gases.


> Science, by definition, is self-modifying.

make all the excuses you care to, you can NOT show me one single bit of
CONCLUSIVE evidence to back up your liberal whinings because it simply does
not exist.

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com

 

"Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:iC6pe.481$%j7.320@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com. ..
> No, because you started the name-calling

horseshit. are you suggesting that you arent a liberal? c'mon tell the
truth.....you voted for kerry, and gore before him. :-)

> I chose to tar you with
> the extreme right.

once again i call horseshit. you compared me with tim mcveigh who was a
domestic ---------, and not a right wing conservative. on second thought, i
know you liberals look at _all_ right wing conservatives in the same manner
as we would look at tim mcveigh. your comparison is truly amongst the most
assinine statements ive ever read in any newsgroup. a new low that screams
of your own ignorance and agenda.


> Notice you didn't deny belonging to a militia

simply not worthy of response as i have no intention of lowering myself to
your red hearrings and desperate attempt at getting off the subject that all
ive asked for is conclusive evidence. all you can provide is "could be's".



> You admitted you can't give me a link to back up
> your assertion that chlorine can't make it to the
> stratosphere.

horseshit. i conceeded that i have no proof of duponts patent running out.
my assertion of chlorine is a simple matter of atomic weight that anyone can
look up.
from http://www.chem.qmw.ac.uk/iupac/AtWt/ the atomic weight of oxygen is
15.9994. the atomic weight of carbon is 12.0107. the atomic weight of
chlorine is 35.453 or OVER TWICE that of oxygen. heavier gasses do not
float above lighter gases.


> Science, by definition, is self-modifying.

make all the excuses you care to, you can NOT show me one single bit of
CONCLUSIVE evidence to back up your liberal whinings because it simply does
not exist.

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com

 

I do not think he CAN switch
>back, 1.) because the laws will not allow a conversion in that direction

FYI, it isn't illegal to switch back to a R 12 system. Theres nothing in
the laws that says R 12 is illegal to use, only manufacture and release to
the atmosphere. If I wanted to build a new R 12 system right now I could,
but no one does because it's cost prohibitive.
FYI for the group as well......
R 22 is currently on schedule to be phased out, and I believe R 134a is
being phased out as well. There are new refrigerants they want us to start
using, and I can't remember the number off the top of my head, but the new
ones will be running at 400+ PSI. I don't even want to try to hook up my
gauges to that system while it is running....

--
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http://www.carkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/jeep-cars/200506/1

 

I do not think he CAN switch
>back, 1.) because the laws will not allow a conversion in that direction

FYI, it isn't illegal to switch back to a R 12 system. Theres nothing in
the laws that says R 12 is illegal to use, only manufacture and release to
the atmosphere. If I wanted to build a new R 12 system right now I could,
but no one does because it's cost prohibitive.
FYI for the group as well......
R 22 is currently on schedule to be phased out, and I believe R 134a is
being phased out as well. There are new refrigerants they want us to start
using, and I can't remember the number off the top of my head, but the new
ones will be running at 400+ PSI. I don't even want to try to hook up my
gauges to that system while it is running....

--
Message posted via CarKB.com
http://www.carkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/jeep-cars/200506/1

 

I do not think he CAN switch
>back, 1.) because the laws will not allow a conversion in that direction

FYI, it isn't illegal to switch back to a R 12 system. Theres nothing in
the laws that says R 12 is illegal to use, only manufacture and release to
the atmosphere. If I wanted to build a new R 12 system right now I could,
but no one does because it's cost prohibitive.
FYI for the group as well......
R 22 is currently on schedule to be phased out, and I believe R 134a is
being phased out as well. There are new refrigerants they want us to start
using, and I can't remember the number off the top of my head, but the new
ones will be running at 400+ PSI. I don't even want to try to hook up my
gauges to that system while it is running....

--
Message posted via CarKB.com
http://www.carkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/jeep-cars/200506/1

 

I do not think he CAN switch
>back, 1.) because the laws will not allow a conversion in that direction

FYI, it isn't illegal to switch back to a R 12 system. Theres nothing in
the laws that says R 12 is illegal to use, only manufacture and release to
the atmosphere. If I wanted to build a new R 12 system right now I could,
but no one does because it's cost prohibitive.
FYI for the group as well......
R 22 is currently on schedule to be phased out, and I believe R 134a is
being phased out as well. There are new refrigerants they want us to start
using, and I can't remember the number off the top of my head, but the new
ones will be running at 400+ PSI. I don't even want to try to hook up my
gauges to that system while it is running....

--
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http://www.carkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/jeep-cars/200506/1

 

And what does Iridium being deposited sixty five millennium ago:
http://www.ias.ac.in/epsci/jun2001/1352.pdf have to do with present day
atmosphere conditions? And if it did, do you know how many thousands
times our polar axis has flipped in that time? What are you nuts?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Stephen Cowell wrote:
>
> Another howler! How do you explain the global
> iridium deposits from the KT boundary? Nothing
> crosses from one foot on one side, to one foot on
> the other?
> __
> Steve
> bemused
> .