Re: 134a Refrigerant
 

No thanks, I've heard the rumor of what happens when you haven't
vacuumed the twelve out and go ahead and fill it with 134.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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Chuck wrote:
>
> Shoot a little propane in the system and enjoy -

Re: 134a Refrigerant
 

No thanks, I've heard the rumor of what happens when you haven't
vacuumed the twelve out and go ahead and fill it with 134.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Chuck wrote:
>
> Shoot a little propane in the system and enjoy -

Re: 134a Refrigerant
 

No thanks, I've heard the rumor of what happens when you haven't
vacuumed the twelve out and go ahead and fill it with 134.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Chuck wrote:
>
> Shoot a little propane in the system and enjoy -

Re: 134a Refrigerant
 

Chuck wrote:
> Shoot a little propane in the system and enjoy -
>

It's not perfect but it'll work. IIRC, the oil in a R12 system is
correct for propane too.. It's been a while since I looked into it.. Oh,
I remember, I think- the vapor pressure is too high, adding 30%
isobutane brings it right into line. I've heard that isobutane can be
found as high-altitude campstove gas.

If you were to do it, which I believe is a federal crime, I think it
would be better to use the small bottles for torches/lanterns as I don't
think they have the stinky chemical in them.. that will contaminate the
oil and shorten the life of the system.

Propane is a direct replacement for R22- virtually identical pressure
curves and, again, the oil is compatible.

Anhydrous ammonia is another candidate. I am unaware of legal
complications with anhydrous, as with all things bragging without proper
learning is contraindicated.

Re: 134a Refrigerant
 

Chuck wrote:
> Shoot a little propane in the system and enjoy -
>

It's not perfect but it'll work. IIRC, the oil in a R12 system is
correct for propane too.. It's been a while since I looked into it.. Oh,
I remember, I think- the vapor pressure is too high, adding 30%
isobutane brings it right into line. I've heard that isobutane can be
found as high-altitude campstove gas.

If you were to do it, which I believe is a federal crime, I think it
would be better to use the small bottles for torches/lanterns as I don't
think they have the stinky chemical in them.. that will contaminate the
oil and shorten the life of the system.

Propane is a direct replacement for R22- virtually identical pressure
curves and, again, the oil is compatible.

Anhydrous ammonia is another candidate. I am unaware of legal
complications with anhydrous, as with all things bragging without proper
learning is contraindicated.

Re: 134a Refrigerant
 

Chuck wrote:
> Shoot a little propane in the system and enjoy -
>

It's not perfect but it'll work. IIRC, the oil in a R12 system is
correct for propane too.. It's been a while since I looked into it.. Oh,
I remember, I think- the vapor pressure is too high, adding 30%
isobutane brings it right into line. I've heard that isobutane can be
found as high-altitude campstove gas.

If you were to do it, which I believe is a federal crime, I think it
would be better to use the small bottles for torches/lanterns as I don't
think they have the stinky chemical in them.. that will contaminate the
oil and shorten the life of the system.

Propane is a direct replacement for R22- virtually identical pressure
curves and, again, the oil is compatible.

Anhydrous ammonia is another candidate. I am unaware of legal
complications with anhydrous, as with all things bragging without proper
learning is contraindicated.

Re: 134a Refrigerant
 

Chuck wrote:
> Shoot a little propane in the system and enjoy -
>

It's not perfect but it'll work. IIRC, the oil in a R12 system is
correct for propane too.. It's been a while since I looked into it.. Oh,
I remember, I think- the vapor pressure is too high, adding 30%
isobutane brings it right into line. I've heard that isobutane can be
found as high-altitude campstove gas.

If you were to do it, which I believe is a federal crime, I think it
would be better to use the small bottles for torches/lanterns as I don't
think they have the stinky chemical in them.. that will contaminate the
oil and shorten the life of the system.

Propane is a direct replacement for R22- virtually identical pressure
curves and, again, the oil is compatible.

Anhydrous ammonia is another candidate. I am unaware of legal
complications with anhydrous, as with all things bragging without proper
learning is contraindicated.

Re: 134a Refrigerant
 

Jeff Strickland wrote:
> I hadn't heard that there was any problem with making R134, and I am
> surprised that anybody is reporting trouble finding it.
>
> And, I agree, going back to R12 isn't gonna happen. It's very expensive,
> and there are seriouis compatibility issues that add to the cost. I
> think one is going to spend the summer with the windows rolled down
> before one goes back to R12.

R12 is cheaper to produce than 134. It's pretty non-toxic too, which
can't be said for 134. Political creatures have made 12 expensive.

John

Re: 134a Refrigerant
 

Jeff Strickland wrote:
> I hadn't heard that there was any problem with making R134, and I am
> surprised that anybody is reporting trouble finding it.
>
> And, I agree, going back to R12 isn't gonna happen. It's very expensive,
> and there are seriouis compatibility issues that add to the cost. I
> think one is going to spend the summer with the windows rolled down
> before one goes back to R12.

R12 is cheaper to produce than 134. It's pretty non-toxic too, which
can't be said for 134. Political creatures have made 12 expensive.

John

Re: 134a Refrigerant
 

Jeff Strickland wrote:
> I hadn't heard that there was any problem with making R134, and I am
> surprised that anybody is reporting trouble finding it.
>
> And, I agree, going back to R12 isn't gonna happen. It's very expensive,
> and there are seriouis compatibility issues that add to the cost. I
> think one is going to spend the summer with the windows rolled down
> before one goes back to R12.

R12 is cheaper to produce than 134. It's pretty non-toxic too, which
can't be said for 134. Political creatures have made 12 expensive.

John