12v relays
10-25-2003, 06:18 PM
#51
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Re: 12v relays
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 23:34:53 GMT, the following appeared in
rec.autos.makers.jeep+******, posted by "Nathan Collier"
<JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com>:
Check Newark Electronics (http://www.newark.com/). When I
needed a new starter relay for the bike I got one rated for
60A for less than five bucks (as compared to the $40 or so
Yamaha wanted). Standard spade terminals.
>im looking for heavy duty 12v relays. the ones at my local autoparts store
>are dinky and they only have solder connections. id like to find one with
>either screw terminals or spades for slide-on crimp fittings.
>thanks,
--
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rec.autos.makers.jeep+******, posted by "Nathan Collier"
<JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com>:
Check Newark Electronics (http://www.newark.com/). When I
needed a new starter relay for the bike I got one rated for
60A for less than five bucks (as compared to the $40 or so
Yamaha wanted). Standard spade terminals.
>im looking for heavy duty 12v relays. the ones at my local autoparts store
>are dinky and they only have solder connections. id like to find one with
>either screw terminals or spades for slide-on crimp fittings.
>thanks,
--
Bob C.
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(without the spaces, of course)
"The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"
- Isaac Asimov
10-25-2003, 06:18 PM
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Re: 12v relays
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 23:34:53 GMT, the following appeared in
rec.autos.makers.jeep+******, posted by "Nathan Collier"
<JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com>:
Check Newark Electronics (http://www.newark.com/). When I
needed a new starter relay for the bike I got one rated for
60A for less than five bucks (as compared to the $40 or so
Yamaha wanted). Standard spade terminals.
>im looking for heavy duty 12v relays. the ones at my local autoparts store
>are dinky and they only have solder connections. id like to find one with
>either screw terminals or spades for slide-on crimp fittings.
>thanks,
--
Bob C.
Reply to Bob-Casanova @ worldnet.att.net
(without the spaces, of course)
"The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"
- Isaac Asimov
rec.autos.makers.jeep+******, posted by "Nathan Collier"
<JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com>:
Check Newark Electronics (http://www.newark.com/). When I
needed a new starter relay for the bike I got one rated for
60A for less than five bucks (as compared to the $40 or so
Yamaha wanted). Standard spade terminals.
>im looking for heavy duty 12v relays. the ones at my local autoparts store
>are dinky and they only have solder connections. id like to find one with
>either screw terminals or spades for slide-on crimp fittings.
>thanks,
--
Bob C.
Reply to Bob-Casanova @ worldnet.att.net
(without the spaces, of course)
"The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"
- Isaac Asimov
10-25-2003, 06:25 PM
#53
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Re: 12v relays purpose ???
Mike Romain wrote:
> Kevin wrote:
>
>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>>>Kevin wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> What is the purpose of using relays for fog lights. A relay came with
>>>>my KC's but I did not use it. I went straight from the battery to the
>>>>lights, breaking the hot side with a toggle switch.
>>>
>>>
>>>The toggle switch will wear out from the full power arc every time it
>>>turns on and off. The cheaper the switch, the faster it will wear out.
>>>
>>>Using a relay means only really low amps pass through the switch greatly
>>>extending its life.
>>>
>>>You also can just run one or two small wires to the switch with a
>>>relay. I prefer to just run one wire to my switch and use the switch as
>>>a ground signal for the relay trigger.
>>>
>>>Here is a good site on how to wire them:
>>>
>>>http://www.classictruckshop.com/club...osch/relay.htm
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>
>> Thanks for the link. In my 99 wrangler i have a MRE front roll bar
>>which is connected to the rear roll bar which has two overhead bars
>>comming from the front roll bar to the rear bar between the front seats.
>>I have a steel panel attached to these bars which has 15 toggle switches
>>and one push switch with a seperate pilot light for each switch. This
>>panel controls all electrical functions,accessories: ignition, starter,
>>headlights,tail lights, inst panel lights, driving lights, wipers, 2
>>meter ham radio, wig-wam lights, and switched 12 volt power circuts.
>>
>>I use GB toggles rated @ 20 amps. I have had two toggle failures over a
>>period of about 2 years. I wish I had seen that link before I wired
>>this panel. On the next jeep I will use this method on some of the hook ups.
>>Thanks
>
>
> You are welcome.
>
> If you have some high draw switches, you can add a relay right behind
> the switch and just use the switch to turn on the relay pretty easily.
> This will save the switches. It only takes a couple wires and if you
> used spade connectors, they fit right on the relay for the main power
> pins.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Good Idea.
Thanks
> Kevin wrote:
>
>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>>>Kevin wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> What is the purpose of using relays for fog lights. A relay came with
>>>>my KC's but I did not use it. I went straight from the battery to the
>>>>lights, breaking the hot side with a toggle switch.
>>>
>>>
>>>The toggle switch will wear out from the full power arc every time it
>>>turns on and off. The cheaper the switch, the faster it will wear out.
>>>
>>>Using a relay means only really low amps pass through the switch greatly
>>>extending its life.
>>>
>>>You also can just run one or two small wires to the switch with a
>>>relay. I prefer to just run one wire to my switch and use the switch as
>>>a ground signal for the relay trigger.
>>>
>>>Here is a good site on how to wire them:
>>>
>>>http://www.classictruckshop.com/club...osch/relay.htm
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>
>> Thanks for the link. In my 99 wrangler i have a MRE front roll bar
>>which is connected to the rear roll bar which has two overhead bars
>>comming from the front roll bar to the rear bar between the front seats.
>>I have a steel panel attached to these bars which has 15 toggle switches
>>and one push switch with a seperate pilot light for each switch. This
>>panel controls all electrical functions,accessories: ignition, starter,
>>headlights,tail lights, inst panel lights, driving lights, wipers, 2
>>meter ham radio, wig-wam lights, and switched 12 volt power circuts.
>>
>>I use GB toggles rated @ 20 amps. I have had two toggle failures over a
>>period of about 2 years. I wish I had seen that link before I wired
>>this panel. On the next jeep I will use this method on some of the hook ups.
>>Thanks
>
>
> You are welcome.
>
> If you have some high draw switches, you can add a relay right behind
> the switch and just use the switch to turn on the relay pretty easily.
> This will save the switches. It only takes a couple wires and if you
> used spade connectors, they fit right on the relay for the main power
> pins.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Good Idea.
Thanks
10-25-2003, 06:25 PM
#54
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Re: 12v relays purpose ???
Mike Romain wrote:
> Kevin wrote:
>
>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>>>Kevin wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> What is the purpose of using relays for fog lights. A relay came with
>>>>my KC's but I did not use it. I went straight from the battery to the
>>>>lights, breaking the hot side with a toggle switch.
>>>
>>>
>>>The toggle switch will wear out from the full power arc every time it
>>>turns on and off. The cheaper the switch, the faster it will wear out.
>>>
>>>Using a relay means only really low amps pass through the switch greatly
>>>extending its life.
>>>
>>>You also can just run one or two small wires to the switch with a
>>>relay. I prefer to just run one wire to my switch and use the switch as
>>>a ground signal for the relay trigger.
>>>
>>>Here is a good site on how to wire them:
>>>
>>>http://www.classictruckshop.com/club...osch/relay.htm
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>
>> Thanks for the link. In my 99 wrangler i have a MRE front roll bar
>>which is connected to the rear roll bar which has two overhead bars
>>comming from the front roll bar to the rear bar between the front seats.
>>I have a steel panel attached to these bars which has 15 toggle switches
>>and one push switch with a seperate pilot light for each switch. This
>>panel controls all electrical functions,accessories: ignition, starter,
>>headlights,tail lights, inst panel lights, driving lights, wipers, 2
>>meter ham radio, wig-wam lights, and switched 12 volt power circuts.
>>
>>I use GB toggles rated @ 20 amps. I have had two toggle failures over a
>>period of about 2 years. I wish I had seen that link before I wired
>>this panel. On the next jeep I will use this method on some of the hook ups.
>>Thanks
>
>
> You are welcome.
>
> If you have some high draw switches, you can add a relay right behind
> the switch and just use the switch to turn on the relay pretty easily.
> This will save the switches. It only takes a couple wires and if you
> used spade connectors, they fit right on the relay for the main power
> pins.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Good Idea.
Thanks
> Kevin wrote:
>
>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>>>Kevin wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> What is the purpose of using relays for fog lights. A relay came with
>>>>my KC's but I did not use it. I went straight from the battery to the
>>>>lights, breaking the hot side with a toggle switch.
>>>
>>>
>>>The toggle switch will wear out from the full power arc every time it
>>>turns on and off. The cheaper the switch, the faster it will wear out.
>>>
>>>Using a relay means only really low amps pass through the switch greatly
>>>extending its life.
>>>
>>>You also can just run one or two small wires to the switch with a
>>>relay. I prefer to just run one wire to my switch and use the switch as
>>>a ground signal for the relay trigger.
>>>
>>>Here is a good site on how to wire them:
>>>
>>>http://www.classictruckshop.com/club...osch/relay.htm
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>
>> Thanks for the link. In my 99 wrangler i have a MRE front roll bar
>>which is connected to the rear roll bar which has two overhead bars
>>comming from the front roll bar to the rear bar between the front seats.
>>I have a steel panel attached to these bars which has 15 toggle switches
>>and one push switch with a seperate pilot light for each switch. This
>>panel controls all electrical functions,accessories: ignition, starter,
>>headlights,tail lights, inst panel lights, driving lights, wipers, 2
>>meter ham radio, wig-wam lights, and switched 12 volt power circuts.
>>
>>I use GB toggles rated @ 20 amps. I have had two toggle failures over a
>>period of about 2 years. I wish I had seen that link before I wired
>>this panel. On the next jeep I will use this method on some of the hook ups.
>>Thanks
>
>
> You are welcome.
>
> If you have some high draw switches, you can add a relay right behind
> the switch and just use the switch to turn on the relay pretty easily.
> This will save the switches. It only takes a couple wires and if you
> used spade connectors, they fit right on the relay for the main power
> pins.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Good Idea.
Thanks
10-25-2003, 06:25 PM
#55
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Re: 12v relays purpose ???
Mike Romain wrote:
> Kevin wrote:
>
>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>>>Kevin wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> What is the purpose of using relays for fog lights. A relay came with
>>>>my KC's but I did not use it. I went straight from the battery to the
>>>>lights, breaking the hot side with a toggle switch.
>>>
>>>
>>>The toggle switch will wear out from the full power arc every time it
>>>turns on and off. The cheaper the switch, the faster it will wear out.
>>>
>>>Using a relay means only really low amps pass through the switch greatly
>>>extending its life.
>>>
>>>You also can just run one or two small wires to the switch with a
>>>relay. I prefer to just run one wire to my switch and use the switch as
>>>a ground signal for the relay trigger.
>>>
>>>Here is a good site on how to wire them:
>>>
>>>http://www.classictruckshop.com/club...osch/relay.htm
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>
>> Thanks for the link. In my 99 wrangler i have a MRE front roll bar
>>which is connected to the rear roll bar which has two overhead bars
>>comming from the front roll bar to the rear bar between the front seats.
>>I have a steel panel attached to these bars which has 15 toggle switches
>>and one push switch with a seperate pilot light for each switch. This
>>panel controls all electrical functions,accessories: ignition, starter,
>>headlights,tail lights, inst panel lights, driving lights, wipers, 2
>>meter ham radio, wig-wam lights, and switched 12 volt power circuts.
>>
>>I use GB toggles rated @ 20 amps. I have had two toggle failures over a
>>period of about 2 years. I wish I had seen that link before I wired
>>this panel. On the next jeep I will use this method on some of the hook ups.
>>Thanks
>
>
> You are welcome.
>
> If you have some high draw switches, you can add a relay right behind
> the switch and just use the switch to turn on the relay pretty easily.
> This will save the switches. It only takes a couple wires and if you
> used spade connectors, they fit right on the relay for the main power
> pins.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Good Idea.
Thanks
> Kevin wrote:
>
>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>>>Kevin wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> What is the purpose of using relays for fog lights. A relay came with
>>>>my KC's but I did not use it. I went straight from the battery to the
>>>>lights, breaking the hot side with a toggle switch.
>>>
>>>
>>>The toggle switch will wear out from the full power arc every time it
>>>turns on and off. The cheaper the switch, the faster it will wear out.
>>>
>>>Using a relay means only really low amps pass through the switch greatly
>>>extending its life.
>>>
>>>You also can just run one or two small wires to the switch with a
>>>relay. I prefer to just run one wire to my switch and use the switch as
>>>a ground signal for the relay trigger.
>>>
>>>Here is a good site on how to wire them:
>>>
>>>http://www.classictruckshop.com/club...osch/relay.htm
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>
>> Thanks for the link. In my 99 wrangler i have a MRE front roll bar
>>which is connected to the rear roll bar which has two overhead bars
>>comming from the front roll bar to the rear bar between the front seats.
>>I have a steel panel attached to these bars which has 15 toggle switches
>>and one push switch with a seperate pilot light for each switch. This
>>panel controls all electrical functions,accessories: ignition, starter,
>>headlights,tail lights, inst panel lights, driving lights, wipers, 2
>>meter ham radio, wig-wam lights, and switched 12 volt power circuts.
>>
>>I use GB toggles rated @ 20 amps. I have had two toggle failures over a
>>period of about 2 years. I wish I had seen that link before I wired
>>this panel. On the next jeep I will use this method on some of the hook ups.
>>Thanks
>
>
> You are welcome.
>
> If you have some high draw switches, you can add a relay right behind
> the switch and just use the switch to turn on the relay pretty easily.
> This will save the switches. It only takes a couple wires and if you
> used spade connectors, they fit right on the relay for the main power
> pins.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Good Idea.
Thanks
10-27-2003, 01:01 AM
#56
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Re: 12v relays
I got some really good bosch ones from a local stereo shop. they use them to
make relays for windows and etc.
KH
"Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
news:xGimb.3318$IA2.281097@twister.southeast.rr.co m...
> im looking for heavy duty 12v relays. the ones at my local autoparts
store
> are dinky and they only have solder connections. id like to find one with
> either screw terminals or spades for slide-on crimp fittings.
> thanks,
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
>
>
>
>
make relays for windows and etc.
KH
"Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
news:xGimb.3318$IA2.281097@twister.southeast.rr.co m...
> im looking for heavy duty 12v relays. the ones at my local autoparts
store
> are dinky and they only have solder connections. id like to find one with
> either screw terminals or spades for slide-on crimp fittings.
> thanks,
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
>
>
>
>
10-27-2003, 01:01 AM
#57
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Re: 12v relays
I got some really good bosch ones from a local stereo shop. they use them to
make relays for windows and etc.
KH
"Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
news:xGimb.3318$IA2.281097@twister.southeast.rr.co m...
> im looking for heavy duty 12v relays. the ones at my local autoparts
store
> are dinky and they only have solder connections. id like to find one with
> either screw terminals or spades for slide-on crimp fittings.
> thanks,
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
>
>
>
>
make relays for windows and etc.
KH
"Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
news:xGimb.3318$IA2.281097@twister.southeast.rr.co m...
> im looking for heavy duty 12v relays. the ones at my local autoparts
store
> are dinky and they only have solder connections. id like to find one with
> either screw terminals or spades for slide-on crimp fittings.
> thanks,
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
>
>
>
>
10-27-2003, 01:01 AM
#58
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 12v relays
I got some really good bosch ones from a local stereo shop. they use them to
make relays for windows and etc.
KH
"Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
news:xGimb.3318$IA2.281097@twister.southeast.rr.co m...
> im looking for heavy duty 12v relays. the ones at my local autoparts
store
> are dinky and they only have solder connections. id like to find one with
> either screw terminals or spades for slide-on crimp fittings.
> thanks,
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
>
>
>
>
make relays for windows and etc.
KH
"Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
news:xGimb.3318$IA2.281097@twister.southeast.rr.co m...
> im looking for heavy duty 12v relays. the ones at my local autoparts
store
> are dinky and they only have solder connections. id like to find one with
> either screw terminals or spades for slide-on crimp fittings.
> thanks,
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
>
>
>
>
10-28-2003, 07:32 PM
#59
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Re: 12v relays
I found some at a local Electronics Supplier store in Riverside, CA. They
are pretty large, and the contacts can take several amps of load. They were
solder type though.
"Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
news:xGimb.3318$IA2.281097@twister.southeast.rr.co m...
> im looking for heavy duty 12v relays. the ones at my local autoparts
store
> are dinky and they only have solder connections. id like to find one with
> either screw terminals or spades for slide-on crimp fittings.
> thanks,
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
>
>
>
>
are pretty large, and the contacts can take several amps of load. They were
solder type though.
"Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
news:xGimb.3318$IA2.281097@twister.southeast.rr.co m...
> im looking for heavy duty 12v relays. the ones at my local autoparts
store
> are dinky and they only have solder connections. id like to find one with
> either screw terminals or spades for slide-on crimp fittings.
> thanks,
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
>
>
>
>
10-28-2003, 07:32 PM
#60
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Re: 12v relays
I found some at a local Electronics Supplier store in Riverside, CA. They
are pretty large, and the contacts can take several amps of load. They were
solder type though.
"Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
news:xGimb.3318$IA2.281097@twister.southeast.rr.co m...
> im looking for heavy duty 12v relays. the ones at my local autoparts
store
> are dinky and they only have solder connections. id like to find one with
> either screw terminals or spades for slide-on crimp fittings.
> thanks,
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
>
>
>
>
are pretty large, and the contacts can take several amps of load. They were
solder type though.
"Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
news:xGimb.3318$IA2.281097@twister.southeast.rr.co m...
> im looking for heavy duty 12v relays. the ones at my local autoparts
store
> are dinky and they only have solder connections. id like to find one with
> either screw terminals or spades for slide-on crimp fittings.
> thanks,
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
>
>
>
>